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THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT, WE ARE READY TO START.
WELCOME TO THE BOARD OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT ON MONDAY, JANUARY 29TH, BEGINNING AT 10:35 AM WE ARE NOW OPEN, AND LET'S GO AHEAD
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AND TAKE OUR ROLL CALL.COULD YOU THANK YOU HERE, UH, DIRECTOR OR CHAIR SAN WONG HERE.
PARK DISTRICT STAFF COORDINATORS IN THIS MEETING INCLUDE A GM LISA GORIAN HERE.
UH, TODAY'S MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO THE BROWN ACT STAFF IS PROVIDING LIVE AUDIO AND VIDEO STREAMING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT MAY DO SO BY SUBMITTING AN EMAIL, LEAVING A VOICEMAIL, OR JOINING LIVE VIA ZOOM WITH THE LINK PROVIDED ON THE AGENDA LOCATED ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEETING PROCEDURES, WE WILL BEGIN.
I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEETING PROCEDURES, SO WE ARE GOING TO THEN PROCEED WITH THE AGENDA, WHICH I THINK THERE ARE SOME COPIES AT THE FRONT AND IT WAS POSTED A FEW DAYS AGO.
UM, OUR FIRST ITEM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, SO WE'LL SKIP ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
SO IF IT'S AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE MAY, UM, ASK YOU TO WAIT FOR THAT ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED, BUT OTHERWISE WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, AT LEAST ONE SPEAKER, STEPHANIE WU.
UH, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND IF YOU COULD PROCEED TO THE PODIUM.
AND IF YOU WOULD TURN ON THE MIC BY TOUCHING THE BUTTON.
IS THAT ON? CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.
HI, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE WU AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY VERY DEEPLY GROWING CONCERN ABOUT HOW KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT IS PRIVATIZING ANTHONY CHABOT EQUESTRIAN CENTER.
FIRST, THEY HAVE ERASED THE HISTORIC NAME OF ANTHONY CHABOT EQUESTRIAN CENTER.
ANY ONLINE SEARCH ENGINE RETURNS, KEYSTONE STABLES.
THERE IS NO LONGER ANTHONY CHABOT EQUESTRIAN CENTER, EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT CHAIR SAN WONG.
I BELIEVE THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM THEN.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SKIP SOME OF THIS COMMENT, BUT IF YOU HAVE OTHER COMMENTS DURING YOUR ALLOTTED TIME, NOT ON FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO USE YOUR, OH, I THOUGHT THIS WAS, I THIS WAS FOR, I THOUGHT THE AGENDA WAS LOST.
I I'M GONNA DEFER TO OUR, UH, ATTORNEY HERE, UM, ON THIS ITEM.
SO IT'S, IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME.
SO I BELIEVE IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM.
SO I'LL WAIT AND THEN SPEAK AFTER.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
MAYBE ANYONE IN THE ZOOM, UH, ROOM, IF YOU'D RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE IN THE ZOOM ROOM.
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TO THEN SAY WE'LL GO ONTO TO OUR ACTION ITEMS AND OUR A GM.WE WILL GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THIS FIRST ITEM, A GOOD MORNING.
LISA GORGEN, ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER OF OPERATIONS.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM, UM, THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BY RUBY TMR, ACTING BUSINESS SERVICES MANAGER.
SO BEFORE SHE BEGINS, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, THAT THE PARKS DISTRICT HAS RECEIVED REGARDING THIS ITEM.
THE PARK DISTRICT DOES TAKE EVERY COMMENT SERIOUSLY AND REVIEWS THEM THOROUGHLY.
TO DATE NOTHING WE HAVE LEARNED LEGALLY PRECLUDES THE PARK DISTRICT FROM ENTERING OR CONTINUING OUR CONTRACTS WITH KEYSTONE, OUR CONTRACT WITH KEYSTONE OR CHANGES THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THE DISTRICT DOES NOT MANAGE THE BOARDING AGREEMENT WITH THE CUSTOMERS OR THE BORDERS.
THAT IS A RELATIONSHIP MANAGED BETWEEN THE OPERATOR AND THE BORDER.
AND WE ENCOURAGE COMPLAINANTS TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS OUTLINED IN THE BOARDING AGREEMENT.
IN THE PAST 18 MONTHS, THE PARK DISTRICT HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS VIA THIS PROCESS.
SO TODAY THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS TO WARD A CONCESSION CONTRACT TO RUN THE LOST TRUMPUS STABLES.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE CAME TO THE BO, THE BOARD OPERATING COMMITTEE LAST FALL TO ENTER INTO AN INTERIM AGREEMENT WITH KEYSTONE AFTER THE CONCESSION LEFT ON VERY SHORT NOTICE PRIOR TO THEIR CONTRACT ENDING.
WE BELIEVE WITH THAT, WITH SOME, UM, OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP AROUND THIS TRANSITION STEM
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FROM MORE STRUCTURE BEING IMPOSED BY KEYSTONE IN COMPARISON TO THE PREVIOUS CONCESSION ERROR FOLLOWING THE EXIT OF THE PRIOR CONCESSIONAIRE, THE DISTRICT ADVERTISED AN RFP AND A NEW CONTRACT IS WHAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED TODAY.I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT THE LOST TRUMP THAT LOST TRUMPUS IS A DISTRICT OWNED FACILITY, AN ASSET THAT IS MANAGED BY A CONCESSIONAIRE AGREEMENT.
THE DISTRICT HAS STATED OBJECTIVES TO FOREMOST PROVIDE AND WHERE POSSIBLE INCREASE PUBLIC ACCESS AND HAVE A CONCESSIONAIRE THAT IS FISCALLY ACCOUNTABLE AND HAS DEMONSTRATED EXPERIENCE AS A BUSINESS OPERATING WITHIN THE STRUCTURE OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RUBY.
ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
I'M RUBY TMR, ACTING BUSINESS SERVICES MANAGER.
THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, INTRODUCTION, A GM GORIAN.
I'M HERE TODAY SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY AT LOST TRUMP STABLES.
AND EXCUSE THE SOUND OF MY VOICE, I'M SORRY.
I'M GETTING OVER A COLD FOR THIS PRESENTATION TODAY, I'LL PROVIDE A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THE LOCATION OF LOST TRUMPET STABLES, AS WELL AS A GENERAL BACKGROUND ON THE SITUATION WHICH A GM GORIAN ALLUDED TO.
UM, I'LL PROVIDE AN OUTLINE FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND THE TIMELINE PROCESS, AS WELL AS OUR ULTIMATE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CONCESSIONAIRE, OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
LOST TRUMP IS STABLES IS LOCATED IN LOST TRUMP AS WILDERNESS REGIONAL PRESERVE.
THE CONCESSION HAS OVER EIGHT ACRES THAT IT OVERSEES WITH ABOUT 50 STALLS OVER TO, UH, 50 STALLS ALTOGETHER.
COVERED PADDOCKS, SEGMENTED PASTURES, AN INDOOR ARENA, A LARGE BARN, A SHAVING SHED, A MANURE SHED, AS WELL AS TWO ONSITE RESIDENCES.
THE OPERATION INCLUDES HORSE BOARDING GROUP AND INDIVIDUAL INSTRUCTION FOR ADULTS AND YOUTH, AS WELL AS OTHER PROGRAMS. THESE CAN INCLUDE HORSE CLINICS, SHOWS EDUCATIONAL AND INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMS. IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED WORD THAT THE FORMER CONCESSIONAIRE WOULD BE LEAVING AND WE RECEIVED A 30 DAY NOTICE OF HER DEPARTURE.
DURING THAT TIME, WE ENGAGED IN DIRECT NEGOTIATIONS WITH KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND THEY CAME IN AS THE INTERIM OPERATING CONCESSIONAIRE AT LOST TRUMPET STABLES.
DURING THAT TIME, WE BEGAN FORMULATING AN RFP TO GO OUT TO BID LAST FALL.
THIS IS A BRIEF OUTLINE OF THE PROPOSAL TIMELINE.
ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 18TH OF LAST YEAR, WE OPENED REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS AND WE DID A MANDATORY SITE WALK AT THE END OF OCTOBER.
PROPOSALS WERE DUE ON DECEMBER 4TH, AND WE CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS IN THE EARLY PART OF DECEMBER WITH THE INTERESTED PARTIES.
WE ARE NOW HERE TODAY SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HOPE TO BRING TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN MID-FEBRUARY.
AT THE SITE VISIT, WE RECEIVED ATTENDANCE FROM 10 DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BUT, UM, THEY WERE FROM THREE DIFFERENT, UM, COMPANIES AND WE ULTIMATELY GOT THREE SUBMISSIONS FROM EACH OF THEM.
THEY WERE A KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, TRILOGY EQUESTRIAN SERVICES, LLC, AS WELL AS SADDLE UP ACADEMY.
AFTER CONDUCTING A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF EVERYONE'S PROPOSALS AS WELL AS INTERVIEWS, WE HAVE DECIDED TO SELECT KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY FOR THE CONTINUED OPERATION AT LOST TRUMPET STABLES.
WE SELECTED THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR STRONG WORKING HISTORY WITH THE DISTRICT BEING BOTH RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE.
THEY HAVE RUN THE OPERATIONS AT ANTHONY CHABOT EQUESTRIAN CENTER SINCE 2021, AND THEY HAVE HAD A, THEY HAVE HAD A POSITIVE INFLUENCE AT LOST TRUMPUS IN THEIR SHORT STAY.
THE STABLES THERE WERE IN A STATE OF DISREPAIR WHEN THEY FIRST CAME IN, AND THEY HAVE SINCE WORKED TO CLEAN UP THE AREA AND HAVE DONE REPAIRS.
AS A GM GORIAN MENTIONED EARLIER, WE SOUGHT A CONCESSIONAIRE THAT WAS WILLING TO PROVIDE MORE EQUESTRIAN OPPORTUNITIES TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC RATHER THAN BORDERS.
THEY WILL BE OFFERING A RANGE OF SERVICES SUCH AS TRAIL RIDES, HORSE CAMPS, AND ONSITE CLINICS TO THE SAN RAMON AREA.
AND THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THEIR LESSON PROGRAM, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND EQUESTRIAN EDUCATION THROUGH VARIOUS COLLABORATIONS, INCLUDING POTENTIALLY PARTNERING WITH THE NEIGHBORING LITTLE HILLS TO OFFER EQUESTRIAN ENGAGEMENT
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FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT THEY HOLD THERE.THEY HAVE BEEN THE ANTHONY SHABOT EQUESTRIAN CONCESSIONAIRE AS I MENTIONED, SINCE 2021.
THEY HAVE PROVEN SKILLS OF WORKING WITH PARK STAFF AND THEY HAVE A PROVEN, UH, RECORD OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY HAVE BEEN THE INTERIM OPERATOR AT LOST TRUMP AS STABLES AND PER THE ANNUAL FEE SCHEDULE PROCESS.
KEYSTONE RECOMMENDED A BOARD INCREASE TO BEGIN IN 2024.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED TO THIS COMMITTEE AND APPROVED BY THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS LAST YEAR AND CAME INTO EFFECT IN 2024.
A LOT OF THESE CHANGES WERE IN RESULT TO THE HIGH COST OF FEED AND HAY, AS WELL AS COMPETITIVE LABOR IN THIS REGION.
BASED ON THOSE FEE INCREASES, WHICH HAVE, UH, GONE UP FROM SIX 50 TO 7 65 PER MONTH, WE ARE PROJECTING AN ANNUAL REVENUE OF ABOUT $411,000 A YEAR, AND WE'LL BE COLLECTING 5% FOR THEIR CONCESSION FEE AND 5% INTO THE CMF, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, THE CONCESSION MAINTENANCE MAINTENANCE FUND GOES BACK INTO THE REHABILITATION UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY.
WITH THAT SAID, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE BOARD OPERATIONS COMMITTEE APPROVE AND RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD THE SELECTION OF KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY AS A CONCESSIONAIRE OF THE LOST TRUMPET STABLES CONCESSION WITH A THREE YEAR TERM BEGINNING MARCH 1ST OF THIS YEAR, AND A POSSIBLE SEVEN YEAR TERM AT THE PARK DISTRICT.
SOLE DISCRETION, EXPECTED REVENUE IS UP TO 20,000 PER YEAR BASED ON A PERCENTAGE OF GROSS RECEIPTS.
ALL RIGHT, THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR THE WORK, PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO, UH, DO BOARD MEMBER COMMITTEE MEMBER QUESTIONS FIRST.
UH, I THINK WE, WE WILL, BUT LET'S FIRST DO QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
UM, SO, UM, CAN YOU JUST FOR, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC, 'CAUSE I KNOW, UH, UH, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVES FEES WHEN, WHEN, WHEN IT, UH, COMES TO US.
AND CAN YOU JUST OUTLINE THE, UM, THE PROCESS, HOW WE, HOW, HOW WE, UH, COMPARE, UH, RATES FROM NEIGHBORING, NEIGHBORING, UH, BUSINESSES? YES, THANK YOU.
SO, UM, IN THE FEE SCHEDULE PROCESS, WE DO AN ANALYSIS OF THE PROPOSED FEES AND DO A MARKET COMPARISON WITH SIMILAR FACILITIES WITHIN THE REGION.
AND GENERALLY WE TRY TO BE WITHIN THE MEDIAN SCOPE OF WHAT OTHERS ARE CHARGING.
AND, UM, THE PROPOSED FEES THAT WERE APPROVED THIS YEAR FALL WITHIN THAT MEDIAN.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT, UH, THE CURRENT FEES IF APPROVED, UM, WOULD, WOULD THEY BE BELOW OR ABOVE OR AT MEDIAN OR BELOW? I KNOW THAT WHEN WE LAST DID THE ANALYSIS, WHEN WE DID THE ANALYSIS LAST FALL, THERE WAS ONLY ONE OTHER STABLE OPERATOR IN THIS REGION THAT WAS CHARGING LESS.
IS THAT, IS THAT ALL OKAY, LET'S DO QUESTIONS FIRST, BUT THEN WE CERTAINLY WILL HEAR, UM, YOUR REQUESTS FROM THE QUESTIONNAIRES.
DO YOU, FROM THE CONCESSIONAIRE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I, I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT, BUT, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, ANYTHING TO SHARE WITH US THAT IS, MAKES IT DIFFERENT, MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS PERSON WHO WAS RUNNING THIS? IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY DIFFERENT? UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE, UM, PART OF OUR SELECTION FOR KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WAS BASED ON THEIR STRONG FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN AT ANTHONY CHABOT EQUESTRIAN CENTER.
THE PREVIOUS CONCESSION ERROR, UM, DID NOT DO A LOT OF PRICE ADJUSTMENTS YEAR TO YEAR WHEN IT CAME THROUGH TO THE FEE SCHEDULE PROCESS.
AND, UM, I THINK SUFFERED AS A RESULT OF THAT.
AND SO WASN'T ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE HIGHER INFLATIONARY COSTS OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND FEED AND LABOR THAT GO INTO KEEPING A STABLE.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, SOMETHING WE WERE KEENLY AWARE OF DURING THE PROPOSAL PROCESS AND, UM, LOOKED AT SPECIFICALLY.
AND YOU BELIEVE WITH THE NEW OPERATOR, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE SITUATIONS YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT? YES, THEY'VE, UM, ONE WAY IN WHICH THEY'VE DONE THAT ALREADY WAS THROUGH THE FEE SCHEDULE PROCESS.
SO THEY PROPOSED A FEE INCREASE GOING INTO 2024
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TO HELP KINDA LEVEL OUT, UM, THEIR COSTS, THEIR EXPENDITURES, AND, UM, THEIR REVENUE.AND, UM, SO THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY OF THIS, THIS YEAR, THIS MONTH.
OKAY, I I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, UM, TO ASK AND I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR, UM, OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, LYNN, WHO HELPED ME, UH, PUT SOME OF THESE TOGETHER.
UM, SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, DOES THE PROPOSED CONTRACT BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND THE CONCESSIONAIRE PROVIDE A MECHANISM FOR THE DISTRICT TO ADDRESS UNPROFESSIONAL OR CONCERNING BEHAVIOR BY THE CONCESSIONAIRE, SUCH AS DISPLAYING FAVORITISM OR BEING RUDE TO THE PUBLIC OR ITS CUSTOMERS? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
SO AS A GM, UH, GORIAN, UH, SAID EARLIER, WE TAKE EVERY GRIEVANCE SERIOUSLY AND MAKE NOTE OF IT IN THE RECORD.
AND, UM, THERE IS PROPOSED LANGUAGE IN THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT IF, IF AWARDED, UM, THAT PERMITS THE DISTRICT TO NOTIFY THE CONCESSIONAIRE THAT IT MUST REASSIGN OUT OF THE DISTRICT'S FACILITIES, ANY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ACTING OBJECTIONABLY.
AND, UM, WE USE OUR OWN REASONABLE JUDGMENT OF WHETHER OR NOT THE CONCESSIONAIRE MEETS THE CRITERIA OF BEING COMPETENT, DISORDERLY, DISCOURTEOUS, OR OBJECTIONABLE.
AND WE WOULD CONSIDER FAVORITISM TO BE OBJECTIONABLE BEHAVIOR, BUT WE CAN ALSO INSERT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO SAFEGUARD AGAINST, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL COMPLAINTS IN THE FUTURE AND HOW TO ADDRESS THESE SITUATIONS.
AND SOME OF THESE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED BY, I THINK IT'S JUST GOOD TO ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, REVIEW SOME OF THESE, UM, TYPES OF QUESTIONS.
SO THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS, WHAT DOES THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT REQUIRE AS FAR AS STANDARDS FOR SAFETY AND SANITATION? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT REQUIRES THAT THE CONCESSIONAIRE COMPLY WITH ALL COMMERCIAL, UH, REASONABLE COMMERCIAL STANDARDS FOR A SAFE AND SANITARY EQUINE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAUSES ALARM, ANY GRIEVANCE THAT COMES THROUGH RELATED TO THE HORSE'S SAFETY OR HEALTH OR, UM, HEALTH IN GENERAL OF THE HORSE, UH, THE, THE STABLES, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HIRE A CONSULTANT AND KIND OF PERFORM AN AUDIT, UH, TO ENSURE, SAFEGUARD THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF THE HORSES.
AND DOES THE CONTRACT REQUIRE THE CONCESSIONAIRE TO HAVE A WRITTEN PROCESS FOR ITS WAIT LIST AND BORDER SELECTION? YES.
UM, THEY PROPOSE THEIR, UH, WAIT LIST PROCESS TO US AND, UM, WE DOCUMENT IT ON OUR END.
AND THESE PROCESSES, WE CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH, HAVE TO BE EQUITABLE AND NON-DISCRIMINATORY.
I, I BELIEVE WE'VE COVERED THIS ALREADY, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT AGAIN 'CAUSE IT'S JUST HELPFUL TO REVIEW, YOU KNOW, WHO SETS THE FEES FOR THE BOARDING AND ARE THE FEES SET BY THE CONCESSIONAIRE OR THE DISTRICT? THE FEES ARE PROPOSED BY THE CONCESSIONAIRE, BUT THEY'RE ULTIMATELY, UM, SET BY THE DISTRICT.
THEY'RE PART OF OUR FEE SCHEDULE.
SO EVERY FALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS COME THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE AND THIS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THEM TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR RATIFICATION FOR THE, THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, LAST YEAR, WE ALSO, UM, REVIEWED, WE'RE DOING A COMPREHENSIVE FEE STUDY WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE FEES AND, UH, ANALYZING THAT ACROSS THE DISTRICT FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT CONCESSIONARIES THAT WE WORK WITH.
UM, THE FEE STUDY SCOPE, UM, AT THIS POINT IS LOOKING AT THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE, UM, SO SWIMMING ENTRY, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT CAN CERTAINLY BE AN ASPECT OF A FUTURE PHASE.
WE, WE WERE JUST KIND OF AT THE STARTING POINT IN A, A FEE ANALYSIS AS, AS AN AGENCY.
WHAT RIGHTS DOES THE DISTRICT HAVE TO ENFORCE THE CONCESSIONAIRE'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT? UM, THE DISTRICT.
SO THERE IS, UM, AN ONGOING KIND OF DAY-TO-DAY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PARK SUPERVISOR AND THE CONCESSIONAIRE.
WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS, IF NOT MONTHLY.
WE ALSO CHECK IN BUSINESS SERVICES, UM, QUARTERLY WITH THE CONCESSIONAIRE, UM, JUST TO KIND OF MAINTAIN THAT ONGOING RELATIONSHIP.
AND WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO ENTER THE PREMISES AT ANY TIME TO PERFORM ANY INSPECTIONS, UH, AS NEEDED.
AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSPECT ALL BOOKS AND RECORDS OF THE CONCESSIONAIRE AT ANY TIME.
AND SHOULD THERE BE ANY BREACH IN THE TERMS OF THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT, UM, SHOULD THEY FAIL TO CURE WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.
UM, AND THEN REAL QUICK, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A REQUEST DIRECTOR, CORBIT, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT, BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL AFTER WE,
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YEAH.AND SO THEN DO YOU WANNA, UM, MENTION YOUR REQUEST TO HEAR FROM THE CONCESSIONAIRE? PARDON? YOU HAD A REQUEST THAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE CONCESSIONAIRE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT YOU NO, I'M, I'M WAITING TO HEAR.
I'LL WAIT TO HEAR THEM SPEAKING.
AND THEN, UM, IN TERMS OF HEARING FROM THE QUE CONCESSIONAIRE, DO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE 'EM A LITTLE BIT LONGER PUBLIC COMMENT OR DO WE KEEP THEM CONSTRAINED TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT REQUIREMENTS? I BELIEVE WE'D KEEP THEM IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIMEFRAME.
I WILL NOW OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
SO IF YOU'RE ATTENDING REMOTELY, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND.
AND, UH, WE ALSO ADDITIONALLY HAVE FOUR IN-PERSON, UH, COMMENTS.
LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE CATHERINE LIU.
I'M GOING TO PROMOTE YOU TO PANELIST.
CATHERINE, IF YOU CAN ACCEPT, AND RUBY, IF YOU COULD BRING DOWN THE PRESENTATION, MAYBE CATHERINE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD, PROCEED.
MY NAME IS CATHERINE LOU, AND, UM, I AM AN OAKLAND RESIDENT AND A, AN EAST BAY EQUESTRIAN FOR THE PAST 17 YEARS.
I HAVE, UM, UM, UH, FUNCTIONED AS A STUDENT, UH, HORSE SPONSOR AND HORSE OWNER AT ANTHONY CHABOT EQUESTRIAN CENTER.
AS SUCH, THIS IS THE THIRD CONCESSIONAIRE THAT I'VE HAD DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH IN MY HORSE LIFE.
I AM HERE TO STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION, UM, OF THE SELECTION OF KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT TO BE THE CONCESSIONAIRE AT LOS TR.
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UM, FACTORS I'D LIKE TO SAY OUT LOUD.
FIRST, IT IS WITHIN OUR VALUES THAT THE EQUESTRIAN SPORT BE ONE THAT IS INCLUSIVE AND EMBRACING OF ALL THE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES THAT MAKE UP THE EAST BAY.
THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT AS A PUBLIC BARN, I WANT TO SAY UNEQUIVOCALLY, THAT WITH ALL GREAT RESPECT TO PASS CONCESSIONAIRES, THE VERY FACE OF THE BARN ITSELF HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
AND WHAT IS TYPICALLY, I WOULD SAY, RESPECTFULLY IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, A HOMOGENOUS SPORT.
I SEE FAMILIES, STUDENTS, AND BORDERS OF ALL COLORS AND BACKGROUNDS.
I SEE CHILDREN AND KIDS JUST THE OTHER DAY, UM, WE ENCOUNTERED INDIGENOUS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT CAME TO EXPERIENCE THE JOYS OF THE HORSE EXPERIENCE.
KNOWING THAT TIME IS LIMITED, I WILL ADDRESS THE OTHER COMMENTS QUICKLY.
UM, THIS IS NOW, UM, IN MY HUMBLE, UM, OPINION, A FAR MORE PROFESSIONALLY RUN BARN.
THE, THE CLEANLINESS AND SAFETY STANDARDS FOR EQUESTRIANS AND EQUINES ALIKE HAS DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED.
IT IS A FRIENDLY AND WELCOMING BARN.
IT IS ONE THAT, UM, ADDRESSES THE NEEDS OF ALL BORDERS, THE PUBLIC AT LARGE, AND THE EQUINE CHARGES FROM MY STANDPOINT, WITHOUT LIMITATION FAVORITISM OR ANYTHING LESS THAN THE HIGHEST PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS THAT WE SHOULD EXPECT FOR A PUBLIC BARN AND ONE THAT IS RESPONSIBLE, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC.
YOU HAVE 20 MINUTES REMAINING, OR 20 SECONDS.
I, UH, THIS WILL CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WE'LL PROCEED TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, HERE IN PERSON.
UH, BIANCA LEAN, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
HELLO, MY NAME IS BIANCA LANE.
I'M HERE TO ADDRESS MY CONCERNS REGARDING KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT'S CONSIDERATION FOR A PERMANENT ROLE AT LOST TRUMPUS.
I WAS HIRED AT ANTHONY CHABO EQUESTRIAN
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CENTER AS A STABLE HAND, AND IN JUST THREE MONTHS I WAS OFFERED A JOB AS THE LIVE-IN BARN MANAGER, WHICH I WAS GLAD TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY.HOWEVER, I FACED MANY ISSUES DURING MY TIME AS MANAGER AT THE BARN, WHICH INCLUDED INAPPROPRIATE SEXUAL COMMENTS, LABOR, LAW VIOLATIONS, DISCRIMINATION, AND DISRESPECT.
DURING MY TIME WORKING FOR ANTHONY, THERE WERE MANY INSTANCES WHERE I FELT EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE AROUND HIM.
I DO NOT WISH TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT MY EXPERIENCES, HOWEVER, JUST KNOW THERE WERE SEXUAL ACTIONS AND COMMENTS HE HAD MADE TOWARDS ME, SOME OF WHICH I HAVE WITNESSES TO.
I KNOW THIS IS NOT, I KNOW I WAS NOT THE ONLY EMPLOYEE THAT DID NOT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE OR THAT DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE TALKING TO ANTHONY, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THIS UNPROFESSIONALISM, BUT ALSO HIS ABUSE OF POWER AS A BOSS AND MANAGER TO THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, MY JOB DUTIES AND PAY RATE DID NOT QUALIFY AS AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE IN CALIFORNIA.
I WAS PAID AT LEAST $20,000 LESS THAN THE MINIMUM ANNUAL PAY RANGE FOR EXEMPT EMPLOYEES BY TITLING MY POSITION AS MANAGER, THEY REQUIRED ME TO WORK FOUR DAYS A WEEK, 13 HOUR DAYS, AND MANDATED THAT I STAY ON SITE FROM 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM THIS EQUATES TO $165 AND 50 CENTS PER DAY, NOT EVEN $13 AN HOUR, WHICH IS FAR BELOW THE MINIMUM WAGE STANDARD IN ALAMEDA COUNTY.
I WAS ALSO CHARGED 1,050 PER MONTH FOR RENT FOR A LIVE ON DROP SITE.
THE DISCRIMINATION I ENCOUNTERED FROM THE RICARDO'S WAS DISGUSTING, WHETHER IT BE BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN OR BECAUSE I HAVE DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAN THE RICARDO'S.
NONETHELESS, I WAS MISTREATED AND TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IN MANY WAYS.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT THE ONLY MANAGER THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THIS PAINFUL EXPERIENCE WITH KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT, YET I AM THE ONLY MANAGER THAT IS WILLING TO SPEAK UP AND AGAINST THEIR TREATMENT.
THIS INFORMATION IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHILE REVIEWING KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT.
THESE ARE SERIOUS WRONGDOINGS BY ANTHONY AND VI RICARDO.
I ALSO ASK THAT EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK REVIEWS AND NOTES THE PEOPLE IN SUPPORT OF ANTHONY RICARDO IF THERE ARE WORKING WITH HIM OR FOR HIM, BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
UH, EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK FACILITIES ARE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES AND OFFER OPPORTUNITIES TO THOSE SEEKING THEM, WHICH SEEMS TO NEGATE KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT'S AGENDA.
THE FACILITIES AND REVIEW HOLD SO MUCH BEAUTY AND HISTORY.
IT WOULD BE SHAME TO SEE IT IN THE WRONG HANDS.
I HOPE THE CONCLUSION REACHED IS IN BENEFIT OF NONE OTHER THAN HORSE OWNERS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
MICHAEL, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I ALSO AM AN OAKLAND RESIDENT, HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 1987, AND I'VE KEPT HORSES AT EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT FACILITIES FOR, WELL, LET'S SEE,
UM, I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO THINK HARD BEFORE YOU AWARD THE CONCESSION TO KEYSTONE FOR LES TRUMPUS.
UM, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL, CONSIDER, ADDITIONAL SUB, EXCUSE ME, ADDITIONAL SUBMISSIONS THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER, I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE IN THE LIGHT OF ALL OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT YOU'RE HEARING AND READING WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO JUST GO FORWARD WITH KEYSTONE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU, YOU THINK ABOUT THE THINGS YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT POOR COMMUNICATION FROM KEYSTONE TO EMPLOYEES, KEYSTONE TO BORDERS, THAT POOR COMMUNICATION IS NOT ONLY, UH, A LACK OF AWARENESS THAT THERE SHOULD BE BORDER MEETINGS OR NOTES OF BORDER MEETINGS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO EMPLOYEES OR INSTRUCTING EMPLOYEES NOT TO COMMUNICATE WITH BORDERS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT SAY SOMETHING THAT KEYSTONE DOESN'T WANT THEM TO SAY.
I THINK THAT COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE CONDITIONS AT THE FACILITY, WHETHER THINGS ARE OPEN OR CLOSED, THAT'S LACKING AS WELL.
AND I WONDER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFETY AND THE FACT THAT I'VE HEARD CONDITIONS THAT ARE UNSAFE, BE DISCUSSED AS UNSAFE BY BOTH EMPLOYEES AND ANTHONY AND VIEL THEMSELVES, I WONDER HOW THAT WOULD TRANSLATE TO THE CONDITIONS AT LAS TRUMPUS, WHICH I KNOW FROM THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT I VISITED THERE, NOT AS MANY AS I WOULD LIKE, BUT I CERTAINLY WAS THERE LAST YEAR LATE.
UM, AND I WAS THERE IN YEARS PAST.
I KNOW HOW MUCH THE FACILITY THERE HAS DETERIORATED, AND I SUGGESTED IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THOSE CONDITIONS TO BE REPAIRED WITHOUT A SIGNIFICANT INFLUX OF CAPITAL.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE BOARD IS WILLING TO HELP WITH THAT.
STILL, IT HAS TO BE SAFE IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE TO COME THERE AND PAY $765 A MONTH.
I'D LIKE YOU TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE ONLY THREE HORSES
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THERE NOW, AND THERE ARE VACANCIES AT ANTHONY CHABOT IN THE SEVEN TO 10 STA STALL AREA.SO HOW IS THE BOARD GOING TO, HOW'S THE PARK DISTRICT GOING TO MAKE THE MONEY PROPOSED IF THE STALLS CAN'T BE FILLED, AND WHY SHOULD THEY BE FILLED AT A MEDIAN LEVEL IF THE CONDITIONS AND THE FACILITIES ARE SO FAR BELOW WHAT PEOPLE PAY LESS OR ABOUT THE SAME FOR? SO I THINK THE FINANCIALS ARE SUSPECT, AND I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A REALLY STRONG LOOK AT THAT BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND, UH, I AM NOT A BOARDER AT ANTHONY SHEBOT.
UM, I WAS THERE PREVIOUS TO, UM, KEYSTONE MANAGE MANAGEMENT OFFERING OR MANAGING, UM, THE FACILITY.
HOWEVER, I DO GO THERE BECAUSE I HAVE MY, UH, DISABLED NIECES AND MY SISTER WHO BOARD THERE.
AND IT'S A TIME TO, UH, SPEND, ENJOY, AND BE WITH THE HORSES WITHOUT WORRYING.
THERE'S BEEN, I HAVE, UM, NOT GONE UP THERE QUITE A BIT, BUT WHENEVER I DO, I SEE PAST BORDERS THAT I KNEW BEFORE AND THEY WOULD COME UP TO ME AND TELL ME ALL THESE HORRIBLE STORIES, UM, WITH REGARD TO SAFETY OF THE HORSES AND SAFETY OF JUST THE PUBLIC WHO COME AND VISIT AS WELL AS THE BORDERS.
SO, UM, I'M NOT, I DON'T FEEL THAT IF THE SAFETY ISSUES ARE NOT ADDRESSED AND ME GOING UP THERE VERY INFREQUENTLY AND I HEAR THESE STORIES, I'M, I WOULD HESITATE TO RECOMMEND KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT FOR LU TRUMPUS.
AND, UM, ALSO, UM, PROBABLY HAVE THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT AT ANTHONY CHABOT, WHICH IS KEYSTONE ALSO, UM, PROBABLY LOOKED REVIEWED AGAIN BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE VERY UNSAFE AND FOR PEOPLE AROUND EVEN THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO YES, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE AND I WILL PICK UP WHERE I LEFT OFF, UM, WITH MY CONCERN ABOUT KEYSTONE PRIVATIZING BOTH ANTHONY CHABOT EQUESTRIAN CENTER AND LOS TRUMPUS.
UM, RECENTLY I WENT HORSE CAMPING LAST OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND I MET A WOMAN AND SHE TOLD ME SHE HAD AN INTERACTION WITH ANTHONY, AND I'M GOING TO READ HER STATEMENT.
ROCHELLE ZIKA, SHE WORKS FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT, WENT TO USE THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS AND WAS TOLD THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE FACILITY, AND I WASN'T ALLOWED THERE.
I TOLD HIM THAT'S FUNNY, FROM THE TIME I WORKED THERE IN THE MID EIGHTIES WITH YVONNE ANTHONY CHABO EQUESTRIAN CENTER HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PUBLIC FACILITY, AND HE MAY NOT WANT PEOPLE THERE, BUT HE CANNOT TURN AWAY THE PUBLIC WHO PAY FOR THE FACILITY, EXCUSE ME, FACILITY END QUOTE.
I SPOKE WITH ROCHELLE ON THE PHONE YESTERDAY, AND SHE HAS, SHE HAD COME DOWN WITH COVID ON FRIDAY, OTHERWISE SHE INDICATED SHE WOULD'VE BEEN HERE TO SPEAK.
SHE IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH ANY ONE OF YOU ON THE PHONE.
UM, ALSO, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT KEYSTONE USES THE PUBLIC PARK LAND FOR THEIR PERSONAL FINANCIAL GAIN THROUGH VI'S TRAINING PROGRAM OF 900 TO $1,200 A MONTH EXTRA ON TOP OF $800 OF BOARD.
UM, AND IT MATCHES FEES AT PRIVATE FACILITIES.
UM, THEY'RE REQUIRING ADVANCED RESERVATION AND FEES FOR TRAILERING IN, AGAIN, NOT WRITTEN ON ANY DISTRICT PAGE, NOR PHYSICALLY POSTED ON THE PREMISES ANYWHERE.
KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT NOT ONLY OPERATES A CEC AS THEIR PRIVATE TRAINING FACILITY, BUT THROUGH THEIR ACTIONS, THEY BEHAVE AS IF IT BELONGS TO THEM KICKING OUT BORDERS FOR NO REASON.
ANTHONY IS A BULLY, ESPECIALLY TO WOMEN.
AND BORDERS ARE IN FEAR OF BEING RETALIATED
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AGAINST IF THEY SPEAK UP.FOR OVER TWO YEARS, PARK STAFF HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE POOR PERFORMANCE AND INCREASING HOSTILITY FROM, FROM KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT.
IF BORDERS COULD BE ASSURED, THEIR NAMES WOULD BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL, THEY WOULD AT LEAST THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST A DOZEN MORE PEOPLE WILLING TO SHARE THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
SINCE IT'S LIKELY NOT POSSIBLE TO INTERVIEW BOARD INTERVIEW BORDERS INDIVIDUALLY IN CONFIDENCE, THE EMPTY STALLS SHOULD TELL THE STORY.
IN MY PAST 10 YEARS AS AN A CEC BORDER, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A WAIT LIST FOR BOARDING.
NOW THERE ARE SEVEN TO 10 EMPTY STALLS, AT LEAST FOUR TO FIVE OPEN TRAILER SPACES, AND OF THE HORSES RESIDING AT CHABOT, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT OF THEM OR MORE, BELONG TO KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT IN LIGHT OF THE ABOVE LETTERS, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE ABOVE AND THE LETTERS SUBMITTED BY OTHERS, I AM CONFIDENT THAT THE BOARD WILL TAKE THESE MATTERS SERIOUSLY AS THEY IMPACT THE REPUTATION OF THE DISTRICT AND COMMUNITY THE DISTRICT SERVES.
I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO EXAMINE KEYSTONE'S TOXIC MANAGEMENT STYLE AND WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN OBVIOUS INTENTION TO TRANSFORM A HISTORIC PUBLIC EQUESTRIAN FACILITY INTO A PRIVATE FOR GAIN TRAINING BARN.
UM, IT APPEARS WE HAVE NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS, A PUBLIC COMMENT.
LET'S, DO YOU WANNA MAKE ONE? YES, YOU, YOU CAN MAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL ENTER THE INFORMATION INTO OUR RECORD.
UM, I'M SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO MY DEEP CONCERN REGARDING THE PERFORMANCE OF KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT, OPERATED BY ANTHONY RICARDO AND VIIS LUCAS, WHO ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE PERMANENT CONCESSIONARY POSITION AT LOS TRUMPS.
MY NAME IS ALMA K WALLER, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS WHAT I WITNESSED AT ANTHONY CHABOT.
WHILE BEING EMPLOYED BY KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, MOST EMPLOYEES LEFT ON BAD TERMS WITH ANTHONY AND VIIS.
I EVEN RECALL VI AND ANTHONY LOSING THEIR TEMPER AND SHOUTING AT EMPLOYEES COMPLETELY LOSING IT.
THE EMPLOYEE TURNOVER RATE IS THE HIGHEST I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED IN A WORKPLACE.
I KNOW ANTHONY WOULD ALSO FORCE MANDATORY VOLUNTEER HOURS ON CLIENTS WANTING TO TAKE LESSONS, CLAIMING IT WAS A REQUIREMENT TO TAKE LESSONS.
WHILE I WAS EMPLOYED, I TAUGHT LESSONS WITH KEYSTONE HORSES WHO ARE IN NO WAY SUITABLE FOR USE AS ALL OF THEM WERE AGGRESSIVE, LACKED TRAINING AND WERE NEGLIGENTLY TREATED.
THE PRIMARY TWO HORSES, POPPY AND BAMBI WOULD BOLT, REAR, KICK AND BUCK, AND ON THE OTHER EXTREME, WOULD REFUSE TO STOP, UM, OR TURN WITH RIDERS ON.
I BELIEVE EVERY RIDER FELL OFF AT LEAST ONCE TO NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN.
POPPY ALSO HAD CONSTANT RAGING DIARRHEA, AND BOTH POPPY AND BAMBI'S MOUTH BLED WHEN THE VET FINALLY CAME TO HAVE THEIR TEETH DONE.
BLEEDING FROM A TEETH CLEANING IS NOT NORMAL.
I, ALONG I, ALONG WITH PAYING CLIENTS, EXPRESSED OUR CONCERN REGARDING THE HORSES AND THEIR WELLBEING, BUT WERE NOT WELCOMED WITH ANY SOLUTIONS.
VI ALSO LED EVERYONE TO BELIEVE BAMBI WAS A 4-YEAR-OLD HORSE, WHEN REALLY SHE WAS TWO.
JUSTIN AND EMPLOYEE OF KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT, UM, WAS SPECIFICALLY TOLD BY VIIS NOT TO TELL ANYONE BECAUSE THEY BOTH KNEW THAT RIDING AND USING A 2-YEAR-OLD HORSE FOR A LESSON PROGRAM IS UNSAFE AND USE OF MALPRACTICE.
ANOTHER KEYSTONE HORSE IS ANOTHER BARN LIABILITY.
HE'S SO UNSAFE TO HANDLE THAT.
VIIS HAS INSTRUCTED ME TO HAVE A WHIP WITH ME AT ALL TIMES IN ORDER TO MANAGE AND KEEP ME SAFE.
DURING CASSIAN'S AGGRESSIVE OUTBURSTS, HE BIT AND MANGLED A WOMAN'S HAND SO SEVERELY THAT SHE CAN NOW NO LONGER WEAR HER RED AND GREEN.
ANOTHER INSTANCE, HE BROKE A MAN'S SCAPULA WHO WAS WALKING BY THE HORSE'S STALL, YET NO SIGN IS UP CAUTIONING PASSERBYERS OF CASPIAN'S ATTACKS.
I ALSO EXPERIENCED CASPIAN HARMING EMPLOYEES WHILE CLEANING HIS STALL.
AN EMPLOYEE HAD A, WAS KICKED AND HIS ENTIRE LEG WAS PURPLE.
HE WAS LIMPING AND CAME TO WORK BECAUSE HE COULD NOT AFFORD TO TAKE THE TIME OFF.
HE WAS NEVER OFFERED PTOI THINK I'M PAINTING A PRETTY CLEAR PICTURE AND I COULD CONTINUE.
UH, ANTHONY CHABO IS ALSO A PUBLIC FACILITY, HOWEVER THEY'RE TRYING TO PRIVATIZE IT.
AFTER MY EMPLOYMENT ENDED, I CAME BACK TO RIDE A FRIEND'S HORSE.
I AND
UM, SHE WAS TRYING TO ARGUE WITH ME.
AND, UH, WHEN I TOLD VI SHE COULD NOT UPHOLD THIS POLICY, AS ANTHONY CHABOT IS A PUBLIC AREA, SHE CONTINUED TO ARGUE AND HARASS ME.
I HAVE EVERYTHING ON FILM AND WOULD LOVE TO SUBMIT THAT IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, SHE IS, THEY ARE BOTH USING AND LIMITING OUR FREEDOMS AND ABUSING THEIR POWER FOR PERSONAL GAIN.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT MOST OF THE KEYSTONE SUPPORTERS HAVE RELATIONS WITH ANTHONY AND VIIS OUTSIDE OF, UM, MANAGING ANTHONY CHABO AND LOST TRUMPUS, WHERE ALL COMPLAINTS ARE COMING IN HAVE BEEN FROM BORDERS, CLIENTS AND EMPLOYEES HAVING DIRECT CONTACT WITH AND UNDER DIRECT MANAGEMENT BY KEYSTONE, UM, MANAGEMENT.
I HOPE THE BOARD TAKES INTO CONSIDER, UH, INTO SERIOUS CONSIDERATION THE LACK OF SAFETY AND LACK OF WELLBEING, ANTHONY AND VI TO PLAY DISPLAY TOWARDS THE ANTHONY SHABO COMMUNITY.
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AND IT'S MAKING, DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT TO GRANT A PERMANENT CONCESSION TO ANTHONY AND VI AT LOS TRUMP IS.UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
I, I DUNNO IF THE CONCESSIONAIRES WANTED TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE TIME IF THEY DID.
UM, OTHERWISE I, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AT THIS POINT.
UH, I THINK WE MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
ELLEN, I, I SEE YOU HAVE A QUESTION HERE.
DO YOU WANNA, UM, IT'S FOR YOU.
IT'S FOR, I KNOW, BUT IT'S AN OPEN MEETING, SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN, I'M NOT ASKING ANY SECRET.
I I WAS JUST ASKING IF PERHAPS WE COULD USE SOME MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION TODAY.
I THINK I, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR, UM, QUESTION AND COMMENT.
AND ACTUALLY, I, I, I THINK I WANNA ADD TO THAT BEFORE WE GET THE ANSWER IN TERMS OF NEXT UP.
SO WHAT WE DO TODAY, I BELIEVE IS PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND THEN THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT A BOARD MEETING WOULD VOTE ON, UM, THIS, THIS FINAL AWARD.
AND SO IN TERMS OF OUR TIMELINE, IF WE WERE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TODAY, UH, WHAT WOULD THEN, WHEN WOULD THIS COME TO THE FULL BOARD FOR THE FINAL DECISION? WOULD WE EXPECT THIS TO COME TO THE FULL BOARD FOR THE FINAL DECISION? OH, THE PROJECTED DATE, YEAH.
AND, UM, DIRECTORS, I, I, I DID, UM, WE HAVE ANTHONY, RICARDO AND VI LUCAS HERE FROM KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
AND, UM, THEY INDICATED THEY'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TODAY.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK INTO US.
WE'VE WORKED WITH YOU GUYS A LOT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, UM, WORKING WITH ANTHONY SHABO AND REALLY FIELDING ISSUES AND COMPLAINTS AND DIFFICULTIES THAT WE'VE HAD.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY CATEGORICALLY THAT THE, UM, ACCUSATIONS OF UNPROFESSIONALISM ARE FALSE.
UM, HOWEVER, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A CHALLENGE TO WORK IN THE PUBLIC, AND IT IS A CHALLENGE TO MANAGE A FACILITY AND, AND MAKE CHANGES TO IT SPECIFICALLY, UM, CREATE MORE STRUCTURE TO IT.
IT IS GONNA CHAFE AND, UM, BE DIFFICULT FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT IT AFFECTS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MY GOAL IS NOT TO PRIVATIZE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE GOAL HERE.
WE DO HAVE TO RUN A BUSINESS, BUT IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF THE PARK, AND IT IS IN, IN THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC.
I'VE GROWN UP AT THE, THIS FACILITY, UM, EVERYBODY THAT'S EVER BEEN THERE HAS KNOWN ME AND KNOWS MY CHARACTER.
AND I CAN SAY I HAVE AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION, AND I STAND BY THAT AND, UM, AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE OF US.
AND WE'RE VERY CLEAR AND OPEN ON ALL OF OUR POLICIES AND, UH, COMMUNICATE REALLY WELL WITH PEOPLE.
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE BACK.
SOME PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.
AND, AND IN THOSE SITUATIONS, UM, CONFUSION AND MISINFORMATION CAN, CAN HAPPEN.
UM, BUT STILL OUR, OUR GOAL AND OUR FOCUS IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EQUESTRIAN SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH VOLUNTEERING, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH PEOPLE TAKING RIDING LESSONS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T OWN A HORSE.
IT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES WHEN IT, WHEN YOU HAVE PRIMARILY A BOARDING SITUATION ALSO TO OFFER TO BORDERS, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TRAINING AND TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE AND HAVE SAFER RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR OWN HORSES IS SOMETHING, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR SAFETY.
AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, FOR, FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, UM, INTERACT WITH THE HORSES.
SO WE TRY TO, UH, PROVIDE AN ARRAY FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, UH, HEARING US AND, UH, TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR MY COMMENT AS WELL.
BOARD OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEMBERS, DIRECTOR ROSARIO AND CHAIRPERSON SAN WONG.
UM, JUST TO ADDRESS ANY, UM, SUGGESTION OF UNPROFESSIONALISM FROM KEYSTONE MANAGEMENT IS SIMPLY FALSE.
HOWEVER, UM, WE DO HAVE EXTREME INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC AS, UM, IT BENEFITS THEM AND BENEFITS THE PARK.
SO THROUGHOUT THIS TIME, KEYSTONE'S HAD INTERACTIONS WITH 467 APPLICANTS IN JUST TWO YEARS FOR STUDENT TEACHER RELATIONSHIPS, AS WELL AS IN THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS WITH OVER 80 VOLUNTEERS, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET EXPOSURE TO THE PARK DISTRICT AND TO HORSES.
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SO, UM, WHILE WE'LL REFER TO ALL OTHER COMMENTS TO GENERAL, OUR GENERAL COUNSEL AND OTHER TOPICS TODAY, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR LAS TRUMPUS.SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES.
IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, GO FOR IT.
CAN WE HEAR FROM PARK STAFF FIRST? ANY COMMENTS FROM PARK STAFF? NO.
HERE'S, UH, THEN I, IF THERE'S NO COMMENTS FROM PARK STAFF, UM, MY COMMENT IS THAT REGARDING LOST TRUMPUS IN MY CAREER HERE WITH THE PARK DISTRICT, IT'S BEEN OVER 40 YEARS.
LOST TRUMPUS STABLES HAS ALWAYS BEEN MARGINAL.
THE PARK DISTRICT HAS PUT IN A LOT OF MONEY OVER THE YEARS INTO THAT FACILITY.
AND, UH, I WAS RELUCTANT TO EVEN, UH, APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR THIS STABLE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S FAILED MISERABLY FOREVER.
BUT WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR WHO'S, WHO'S, UH, WHO'S WILLING TO TAKE A CONCESSIONAIRE, WHO WILLING TO, TO, TO TAKE THAT ON AND SEE IF HE COULD TURN IT AROUND.
AND, UH, IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE MY OBSER, MY ADVOCACY THAT, THAT, I MEAN, I'M A, I'M A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THE EQUESTRIAN, UM, UH, COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, THE, UH, IF THIS STABLE DOESN'T, CAN'T MAKE IT UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT, I'M GONNA BE AN ADVOCATE FOR, FOR, AND I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR HAVING THAT STABLE, UH, NOT FUNCTION AS STABLE IN THE PARK TO CIRCUIT, REUSE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT, UH, KEYSTONE IS WILLING TO, TO TAKE, TAKE THAT ON.
UH, AND I, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S, AND I, I WOULD JUST WANT TO APPLAUD THE, THE PEOPLE COMING FORWARD.
YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS.
A LOT OF THOSE ALLEGATIONS ARE, UH, BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE, OF THEIR NATION.
THEY'RE UNDER, THEY'RE UNDER INVESTIGATION.
AND SO, UM, UH, BUT AT, AT THIS TIME, FOR ME, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY, UH, WE CAN'T LET, UH, THE KEYSTONE, UH, TAKE THIS ON AND SEE IF THEY CAN'T TURN THE STABLE AROUND.
'CAUSE IF IT DOES, IF THEY CAN'T, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN.
AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, THIS STABLE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF FAILURE.
AND, UH, IF WE, IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT THIS TIME, I MEAN, UH, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR REPURPOSING THE USE OF THAT, THAT FACILITY.
SO I, I, I, UH, I WOULD SUPPORT, UH, UH, RECOMMENDING THIS TO THE FOR FULL BOARD.
ELLEN, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE? I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME, WE SHOULD REVIEW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TODAY AND, UH, SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WAYS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO USE THE FACILITY.
WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROPOSING TO CONTINUE TO RUN IT, THAT THEY'RE, THEY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING A GOOD JOB TOO.
SO IT'S AN INTERESTING PLACE FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS, TWO DIFFERENT SIDES.
WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE ENCOUNTERED SOME SPECIFIC ISSUES TOO, THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
AND I, I JUST THINK WE MIGHT NEED JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO HEAR WHAT'S HAPPENING.
UM, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, UH, WE WANNA DO WHAT WE CAN TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THIS FACILITY.
I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT TYPE OF FACILITY THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE PARK DISTRICT.
UM, BUT IF WE NEED A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION ON WAYS TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, UM, I, I THINK THAT DOESN'T HURT ANYBODY.
SO PERHAPS, UM, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS AN ANTI SITUATION, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO REVIEW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP AND HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES ABOUT WHAT THOSE COMMENTS MEAN AND ARE THERE WAYS TO ADDRESS THEM.
S HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS AND MAYBE ALSO A FEW ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
UM, SO MY FIRST ONE IS, IS THIS WILL BE COMING TO THE FULL BOARD AS WE, UH, RECEIVED AN ANSWER EARLIER AT THE FEBRUARY, UH, WHAT WAS IT? 20TH, 28TH.
FEBRUARY 27TH MEETING, I THINK,
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ACTUALLY, IS THAT IT? UM, OR FEBRUARY 20TH.SORRY, I'M TRYING TO LOOK ON MY CALENDAR HERE.
MY, MY FIRST RECOMMENDATION HERE IS THAT THIS IS NOT ON CONSENT CALENDAR.
THAT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE, UH, A, A PART OF THE MEETING AGENDA.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT BETWEEN TODAY AND THAT DATE IN TERMS OF, UM, PUTTING INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR THE FULL BOARD.
SO THAT'S MY ONE PART OF MY RECOMMENDATION.
UM, AND TODAY, REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE BOARD MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO ADDRESS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UH, ISSUES THAT WE'RE RAISED, SOME OF THE SERIOUS ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, EVEN SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT DEE MADE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE STABLE BEING IN MARGINAL CONDITION, UNSURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE, BUT THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER HAVING A CONCESSIONAIRE WILLING TO TURN AROUND, UM, LOST TRUMPUS.
I I ALSO WOULD BE CURIOUS TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE OTHER TWO PROPOSALS WE RECEIVED.
AND, UM, SO, SO BETWEEN NOW AND THE BOARD MEETING, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT BE, UH, INCORPORATED IN THE PRESENTATION.
AND, UM, SOME POINTS IN REGARDS TO, UM, AND, AND WE DID GO OVER THE CRITERIA DURING TODAY'S PRESENTATION, BUT MAYBE WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE, UM, FISCALLY SOUND, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE POINTS.
SO HOW, HOW DID THE OTHER TWO PROPOSALS, UM, MAYBE NOT MEET THAT CRITERIA? ANOTHER CRITERIA WAS INCREASING PUBLIC ACCESS.
YOU KNOW, HOW DID THE OTHER TWO, UH, CONCESSIONAIRES NOT, UM, SCORE AS HIGH ON THIS FRONT? UM, I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, HELPFUL IN TERMS OF MAKING A DECISION.
I, I'M GONNA SHARE THAT AS OF TODAY, WITH THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN FRONT OF ME.
I'M ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND THIS.
HOWEVER, KNOWING THIS WILL COME TO THE FULL BOARD, I WOULD HOPE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO, TO MAKE A DECISION IN ABOUT A MONTH ON THIS.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT TODAY.
I'D JUST LIKE TO GET AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.
UM, I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, SOMEONE CAN INSTRUCT ME OTHERWISE, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OPPORT THERE.
I, I BELIEVE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD, ADD AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AT THIS MEETING, AND HAVE IT COME BACK TO THIS BOARD MEETING TO MAKE A DECISION, NOT JUST TOSS IT OVER TO THE BOARD, BUT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY HAVE COME BACK TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
BEFORE IT GOES TO THE FULL BOARD.
IN TERMS OF TIMELINE, WHEN IS OUR NEXT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE SCHEDULED? IT'S PROBABLY IN ONE MONTH.
SO THE LAST WEEK OF FEBRUARY, JUST NOTE CHAIR, WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE RAISED THEIR HANDS IN THE, THAT ARE ATTENDEES.
I THINK I, I WOULD BE WILLING TO REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT FIRST I JUST WANTED GET A TIMELINE.
SO IF WE WERE TO THINK ABOUT PURSUING THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM DIRECTOR CORBETT, WE WOULD BRING THIS BACK TO THE NEXT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS AT THE END OF FEBRUARY.
AND THEN IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE AT LEAST ANOTHER MONTH BEFORE IT WOULD COME TO THE FULL BOARD FOR THE, THIS ACTUAL DECISION, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY THEN BE END OF MARCH.
WHAT IS OUR, UM, I, I GUESS THE QUESTION THEN IS WHAT DOES THIS DO IN TERMS OF IMPACTING CURRENT OPERATIONS? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE AN INTERIM AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW WITH, UM, KEYSTONE AT LOS TRUMP.
YEAH, SO, UM, BASED ON OUR PROJECTIONS, UM, FEBRUARY 21ST IS THE NEXT BOC MEETING, AND WE GENERALLY WOULD BRING THE ITEM TO MEETINGS AFTER.
SO IT PUTS US OUT, I THINK, INTO APRIL, LATE APRIL.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT OPERATION AT LOS TRUMPUS, WE, PER THE INTERIM AGREEMENT, WE ARE PAYING THE OPERATOR OUT OF THE CMF, WHICH IS A FINITE SUM OF MONEY TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATION, AND THAT'S $3,000 A MONTH.
SO UNTIL THEY GET INTO A PERMANENT LONG-TERM AGREEMENT, WE ARE IN THAT INTERIM AGREEMENT IN A MONTH TO MONTH STATUS.
AND WE MUST PAY THEM FOR THE OPERATION OF THAT CONCESSION.
AND, UM, JUST WITH REGARD TO SORT OF PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IF, UM, A RF IF A RECOMMENDATION, UH, BASED ON AN RF, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL SELECTION IS, UM, NOT ADVANCED, YOU KNOW, THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RF, THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, UM, SELECTION TO, WE COULD EITHER REVISIT THAT PROCESS WITH A NEW REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, UM, AND,
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UM, ALSO, AND THEN ALSO REVIEW THE, THE PROPOSALS THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA REMIND, UH, THE COMMITTEE THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO BEEN A PAST PRACTICE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IF, IF WE, UM, IF WE AS THE BOARD OPERATIONS COMMITTEE DO NOT RECOMMEND ADVANCEMENT AT THIS POINT TODAY, THEN THE RFP COULD POTENTIALLY BE REOPENED OR RE-REVIEWED, AND THEN IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE BEFORE GOING TO THE FULL BOARD.
I LOOK AT MY COLLEAGUES, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR WANNA MAKE A MOTION
I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND THAT, THAT WE APPROVE THE, UM, UH, APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION, BRING THIS TO THE FULL BOARD.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE MOVE THAT THERE.
I JUST HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT OPINION ON YOU.
I, I'M NOT GONNA SECOND THAT EITHER, SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT MOTION DOES NOT CARRY.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? UH, WELL, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT THIS NOT BE APPROVED AND BE PUSHED OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING, OR, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE NEED FOR THE NEXT DISCUSSION? BECAUSE WE'LL WANT SOME MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD WE NEED BEFORE WE BROUGHT THIS BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE? SO WE HAVE THE INFORMATION WE'VE BEEN ASKING ABOUT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A THOUGHT ON THAT? UM, WELL, I, I THINK, UM, WE HAVE, UM, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE, ABOUT THE SOONEST WE COULD BRING IT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE.
I, I'M NOT, I, I, I THINK IS THERE STILL TIME TO, UH, BRING IT BACK FOR I THINK THE FEBRUARY 20TH? THINK WE COULD, WE WOULD REVISE THIS ITEM, I BELIEVE, TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMITTEE AND RESUBMIT FOR FEBRUARY 20TH.
AND I THINK WE CAN SQUEEZE BY, I, THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING IN THE ROOM.
SO I THINK WE COULD REV YEAH, EXACTLY WHAT RUBY SAID.
I JUST WASN'T SURE WITH OUR NEW SCHEDULE.
SO, UM, AT THE, I THINK AT THE EARLIEST WE COULD REV, WE COULD TRY TO ADDRESS AND THEN BRING IT BACK ON THE 20TH.
YEAH, JUST I SOME, I MEAN, SOME OF THE MORE SERIOUS, UH, COMPLAINTS WITH THE EEOC, I MEAN, THOSE ARE, THOSE COULD TAKE ANYWHERE FROM SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
UH, I THINK, I THINK, UH, IF YOU WAIT FOR THAT, IF, IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR THAT PARTICULAR DECISION, UH, WE'LL BE WITHOUT A CONCESSIONAIRE FOR SIX MONTHS FOR A YEAR.
AND, UH, BEING THE, UH, IF, IF, UH, I MEAN IF WE GO, GO, GO FORWARD WITH THE, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, THE AGREEMENT, THE RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN THE, THE FINDINGS ARE SUSTAINED REGARDING THE HARASSMENT, THEN WE CAN TAKE, THEN WE CAN TAKE, UM, UH, ACTIONS THEN, UH, I, I WOULD JUST SAY WE HAVE, WE RECEIVED INFORMATION TONIGHT OR THIS AFTERNOON, AND, UH, I, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET MORE OF THAT INFORMATION.
I THINK THERE'S INFORMATION OUT THERE.
WE JUST HAVE TO DO THE, TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESEARCH SOME OF IT, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT THIS, THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE DISTRICT HAS HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THESE CONCERNS PEOPLE HAVE.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED THAT MUCH TIME TO REVIEW IT, DO WE OR DO WE NOT? WELL, I, UM, SO AGAIN, LISA GORGEN, ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER, UH, I OPENED THIS ITEM BY IDENTIFYING THAT THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE HAVE NOT BEEN SUBSTANTIATE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW WITH OUR, OUR, OUR GOING TO THE STATE.
SO WE DO NOT CONTROL THE OUTCOMES OF THOSE.
THOSE ARE BEING INVESTIGATED SEPARATELY.
AND AS DIRECTOR ROSARIO SAID, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEYOND OUR CONTROL.
BUT, BUT I DID TRY TO, UM, PROVIDE, AS PART OF THE INTRODUCTION, THAT WE DO TAKE THESE SERIOUSLY, UH, THESE COMPLAINTS SERIOUSLY, AND TO, WITHIN OUR CONTROL, WE HAVE, UM, LOOKED INTO THEM AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SUBSTANTIATED.
SO I'M NOT SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS THEM, UH, MORE FORMALLY IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT, UM, THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT MORE INFORMATION, UM, THAT WE'LL FIND, WE MIGHT
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FIND MORE.YEAH, I'M JUST, I'M ASKING THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME, BECAUSE AS BOARD MEMBERS, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ALL THE SAME AMOUNT OF INFORMATION YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED.
WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT TONIGHT OR THIS AFTERNOON.
BUT I THINK IF WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T, NOT SURE WE NEED AS MANY MONTHS TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION.
YOU, WE JUST NEED AS A BOARD A LITTLE MORE TIME TO SEE THE INFORMATION THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE.
WE RECEIVED SOME TONIGHT, I MEAN, TODAY FOR, YOU KNOW, IN THE AGENDA.
BUT I'M JUST ASKING WITH THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT ON BOTH SIDES, THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION BROUGHT TO US AS BOARD MEMBERS TO REVIEW.
SO WE'LL BE READY TO MAKE DECISIONS WHEN THE TIME COMES.
AND FOR ME, I DON'T, I MEAN, DOES IT REALLY TAKE SIX MONTHS? I I DON'T, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WAY.
THOSE AREN'T, I I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE WOULD TAKE SIX MONTHS.
UM, WITHIN OUR, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THE ALLEGATIONS THAT ARE BEING EVALUATED BY THE STATE, THOSE AREN'T WITHIN OUR CONTROL.
AND WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ABOUT WHAT THEY BRING BACK TO US.
AT SOME POINT WE'LL HEAR FROM THE STATE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
SO IN THE MEANTIME, WE COULD MAKE A DECISION BASED ON ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE HAVE JUST ASKED FOR TO BE REVIEWED, SOME OF WHICH YOU HAVE.
BUT WE, AS BOARD MEMBERS, I, MYSELF, PERSONALLY, WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK AT SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT OR THIS AFTERNOON.
I, I THINK I'M GONNA ACTUALLY MAKE A MOTION THAT MAYBE BECAUSE SPLITS THIS INTO THE MIDDLE, 'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR OTHER COLLEAGUES ON THE ENTIRE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
I'M, I'M NOT SURE THIS NEEDS TO COME BACK HERE TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, AND I'M WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT THIS ITEM MOVES TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UH, MOST LIKELY AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.
BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S UP TO STAFF TO, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT THE PREPARATION IS.
I, I THINK UNDERSTANDING, I WOULD ALSO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE OTHER TWO PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECEIVED AND HOW THAT COMPARES, UH, YOU KNOW, BASED ON OUR CRITERIA, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, INCREASING PUBLIC ACCESS, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, ALSO BEING ABLE TO WORK WITHIN THE PUBLIC STRUCTURE.
HOWEVER, AT THE SAME TIME WITH THIS, UH, MOTION, I'M NOT IN A POSITION YET.
I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO THE MOTION IS TO PURELY RECOMMEND THAT THIS GOES TO THE BOARD, UH, DIRECTORS AS THE NEXT, UM, STEP.
SO, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING THAT WE APPROVE IT AS IT'S LISTED TONIGHT, BUT WE ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
BUT THE NEXT SPOT THAT IT GOES TO IS THE BOARD.
BUT IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT APPROVING IT TONIGHT.
WE'RE ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
WE, WE, WE DON'T APPROVE IT ANYWAYS.
ACTUALLY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHO APPROVE IT.
WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
AND THAT MIGHT HELP OUR COLLEAGUES AND MAKING A DECISION.
TYPICALLY, WHEN THIS TYPE OF ITEM COMES BEFORE THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, I, I FIND IT THAT IT ENDS UP IN OUR CONSENT CALENDAR.
UM, AND I'VE ALREADY RECOMMENDED FOR IT TO NOT BE IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
AND I THINK WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, IT PROBABLY WOULD, WOULD NOT END UP IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR ANYWAYS.
SO I'M, I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED IN AN ISSUE SUCH AS THIS, WHERE WE DO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON IT, THAT WE DO WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO GET THE INFORMATION TOGETHER TO, TO HELP MAKE OUR DECISIONS THOROUGHLY.
THE FACT THAT WE WOULD DO IT AT THE FULL BOARD AS OPPOSED TO STOPPING AGAIN AND DOING IT HERE.
I, I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE MATERIAL IN FRONT OF US.
BUT WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISION TODAY ON APPROVING THE ITEM, BUT WE WOULD JUST MOVE IT TO THE BOARD SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE IT COMES TO US AT THE BOARD, RIGHT? YES.
THAT I, I, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT NOT BECAUSE WE'RE APPROVING WHAT WE SEE TODAY, BUT WE, WE ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE A GOOD DECISION AT WHEN THE TIME COMES.
THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A ROLL CALL.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE, UH, PLEASE STATE WHAT THIS MOTION IS? I WILL STATE IT.
THE MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND THAT THIS ITEM MOVES FORWARD TO THE ENTIRE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO MAKE A DECISION, WHICH IS PART OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AS IT IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
WE ARE ALSO STATING THAT WE WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION TO, TO MAKE THIS FINAL DECISION.
AND WE DO NOT HAVE A, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO, OR WE, WE ARE NOT APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF TO APPROVE, UM, THIS, UM, CONCESSION ERROR BECAUSE WE WANTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING.
SO THE, THE MOTION THIS AFTERNOON IS NOT TO APPROVE THIS,
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BUT JUST TO MOVE IT TO THE FULL BOARD TO, AND IN THE MEANTIME HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW MORE INFORMATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO.SO A DECISION CAN BE MADE AT THAT POINT, AT SOME POINT.
SO SOMEONE SHOULD, UH, SHOULD WE JUST PUT IT PAST, I MEAN, CAN WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE OF WHAT THAT MOTION WILL BE AGAIN, PLEASE? YEAH.
I'M, I'M LOOKING TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, I THINK RECORDS THE, UM, THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE.
DO YOU, DO YOU WANNA SAY IT AGAIN OR? YES, I CAN SAY IT AGAIN.
WE'RE JUST MOVING IT OVER FOR JUST, YEAH.
SO I THINK IT'S A NEUTRAL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, IT'S A PRETTY NEUTRAL, YES, IT'S A NEUTRAL, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT A, UH, UH, FORWARDING A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, YOU'RE FORWARDING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND, AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT CAME OUT DURING THE DISCUSSION.
AND AS PART OF THAT, A RECOMMENDATION, THE CONCERNS RAISED TODAY WILL BE ADDRESSED.
DO YOU WANNA, I, I GUESS WE CAN ALL, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
MOVE FORWARD TO BOARD UNANIMOUS TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WITHOUT ANY FINAL DECISION WITH, YES.
WE NO LONGER HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER OR ITEM LETTER B FOR ACTION ITEMS, UH, THE PACIFIC STATE'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONTRACTORS INCORPORATED.
UM, I'M RUBY TBAR, AGAIN, ACTING BUSINESS SERVICES MANAGER.
I'M ALSO HERE, UH, JOINED BY UNIT MANAGER OF THE LAKES UNIT, DAVID VANCE, TO PRESENT ON A RECOMMENDATION TO EXECUTE A CARETAKER AGREEMENT WITH PACIFIC STATE'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONTRACTORS, INCORPORATED AT DUNBARTON QUARRY CAMPGROUND ON THE BAY.
FOR THIS PRESENTATION, I'LL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE LOCATION FOR THIS AGREEMENT.
THE HISTORY AND BACKGROUND, THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CARETAKER, AS WELL AS OUR RECOMMENDATION.
DUNBARTON QUARRY CAMPGROUND ON THE BAY IS LOCATED IN FREMONT, CALIFORNIA, RIGHT BEFORE YOU HIT THE DUNBARTON BRIDGE JUST SOUTH OF COYOTE HILLS, IT IS MANAGED BY THE PAR, SAME PARK SUPERVISOR AS COYOTE HILLS REGIONAL PARK.
IT WAS RECENTLY DEVELOPED INTO A CAMPGROUND, PROVIDING THE PUBLIC OVER 60 RV SITES, PICNIC AREAS, AND AMPHITHEATER, SHOWER, AND RESTROOMS, AND A CAMP STORE.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, THIS WAS AN ACTIVE QUARRY FROM THE 1950S THROUGH 2007.
ROCK AND GRAVEL EXCAVATED FROM THIS QUARRY HELPED CONSTRUCT VARIOUS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN OUR REGION, INCLUDING SAN FRANCISCO AND OAKLAND INTERNATIONAL AIRPORTS, LOCAL HIGHWAYS, AND OTHER PROJECTS, AND ITS LIFESPAN.
THE QUARRY PRODUCED 15 MILLION CUBIC YARDS OF ROCK, CREATING A MASSIVE EXCAVATION SITE THAT WAS 320 FEET BELOW SEA LEVEL.
THE, UH, THE QUARRY WAS PLANNED FOR FUTURE RESTORATION PER PASS RECLAMATION PLANS, AND THE ULTIMATE INTENT OF THE QUARRY WAS TO BE RESTORED.
IN 2012, THE PARK DISTRICT AND DUNBAR AND QUARRY ASSOCIATES BEGAN DEVELOPMENT OF A CAMPGROUND AS PER THE RECLAMATION PLANS.
THE CAMPGROUND CONSTRUCTION IS A WHOLE BODY OF WORK THAT IS MANAGED BY OUR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT, AND I DO HAVE ARCHITECT JIM DEVLIN HERE FOR ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT.
PER, UM, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT, WE OPENED THE PHASE ONE OF THE CAMPGROUND IN 2021, AND THAT WAS THE PART OF THE PARK THAT I SHOWED YOU IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
THE CARETAKER AT THIS SITE IS AN AGENT OF PACIFIC STATES.
WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH HIM IN AN INFORMAL SHORT-TERM AGREEMENT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
THEIR CARETAKER HAS PROVIDED A SECURITY PRESENCE TO THE CAMPGROUND WHILE
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CONSTRUCTION BEGINS AND CONTINUES AND REFILLS THE QUARRY NEXT DOOR.HE SERVES AS, UH, HE SERVES A ROLE OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGER ON BEHALF OF PACIFIC STATES WHO HAVE BUILT THE CAMPGROUND.
ADDITIONALLY, THE CARETAKER'S ROLE IS TO REPORT ANY TRESPASSING OF THE FENCE LINE BETWEEN THE ACTIVE RECLAMATION WORK AND THE CAMPGROUND.
THE RECLAMATION WORK AREA IS NOT YET UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE DISTRICT.
PACIFIC STATES CONTINUES, UH, PROVIDING CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT AS THE PROJECT CONTINUES, AND THE CARETAKER IS THERE TO ENSURE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE SITE, WHICH, AS I SAID, IS NOT IN POSSESSION OF THE DISTRICT YET, MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT, AND IS THERE TO REPORT ANY AFTER HOURS ACTIVITY THAT MAY OCCUR AT THE PARK.
AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, HE'S CURRENTLY IN AN INTERIM AGREEMENT AND HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN ONSITE LIVING UNIT.
AND THE PARK DISTRICT PROVIDES WATER AND ELECTRICITY TO HIS LIVING UNIT.
UM, DURING THE 2023 WINTER STORMS, THE ONSITE CARETAKER WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE RAPID RESPONSE DURING, UM, UH, WATER OVERFLOWS IN THE AREA.
AND, UM, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CARETAKER THERE.
WITH THAT SAID, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE BOARD OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AUTHORIZE AND RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS A CARETAKER AGREEMENT WITH PACIFIC STATE'S ENVIRONMENTAL CONTRACTOR CONTRACTORS, INCORPORATED FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, COMMENCING APRIL 1ST OF THIS YEAR AT DUNBAR AND QUARRY CAMPGROUND ON THE BAY, WITH A POSSIBILITY OF ONE THREE YEAR EXTENSION UPON MUTUAL AGREEMENT OF OUR BOTH PARTIES AT NO COST.
AND I BELIEVE I'M ALSO, UH, JOINED BY JIM DEVLIN, UM, OF OUR, OUR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT ONLINE AS WELL, IF HE HAS ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
AND THIS IS HIS LIVING UNIT ON SITE.
UM, UNIT MANAGER, DAVID VANCE HERE AS WELL, UH, TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INSIGHT.
ARE ARE, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR OR IS THIS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION? THIS IS THE END.
IT'S, IT'S A SHORT ONE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, IF THERE'S A BOARD MEMBER, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, GO AHEAD.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, UH, CONCESSIONARY OR CARETAKER ARE, THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION COMPANY DQA? YES.
UM, WELL, THEY'RE A SUBSIDIARY OF DQA.
AND SO WHEN THIS CONTRACT IS OVER, ARE WE GOING, IS THAT THE INTENT TO HAVE A, UH, UH, CARETAKER ON SITE, UH, OR A CAMPGROUND HOST, UH, AFTER THIS IS A SEPARATE AGREEMENT THAN THE CAMPGROUND HOST? UM, THIS IS PURELY RELATED TO THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION.
PHASE TWO OF THE CAMPGROUND PROJECT WILL BE COMMENCE, I BELIEVE, IN 2025.
SO HIS, UM, OVERSIGHT IS RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION WORK.
THERE IS A SEPARATE AGREEMENT ON SITE FOR THE CAMP, UM, THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT WITH THE CAMP STORE, WHICH ALSO HAS, UM, AN OVERNIGHT PRESENCE, AND THAT'S RELATED MORE TOWARDS THE PUBLIC AND SERVING THE PUBLIC AND RESPONDING TO ANY CONCERNS THAT ARISE ON THE CAMPGROUND AFTER HOURS WHEN STAFF ARE NOT THERE.
AND THEN, UM, HOW DO THEY COMMUNICATE WITH DISPATCH? IS IT PHONE OR RADIO? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? DAVE DOS, UM, HOW DO THEY, HOW DO THEY COMMUNICATE IF THERE'S A PROBLEM? UH, AND THEN HOW DO THEY COMMUNICATE WITH DISPATCH? DO THEY HAVE A RADIO OR DO THEY USE T CELL PHONE?
I'M THE LAKE UNIT MANAGER, UM, AFTERNOON BOARD.
UM, TO THE RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, TYPICALLY HE HAS A CONTACT WITH DISPATCH IF THERE'S AN, IN THE EVENT OF SOMETHING HAPPENING AFTER HOURS, UM, IT'S COMMUNICATED THROUGH PHONE TO DISPATCH.
UM, WE DO HAVE A REGULAR CHECK-IN WITH THIS PERSON THAT'S, UH, ON SITE WITH THE PARK STAFF WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, CHECK IN WITH HIM AS WELL AS HIM CHECKING IN WITH, IN WITH MY STAFF THAT'S, UH, AT THE KIOSK AS WELL AS HE'S BEEN A, AN ASSET FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT'S ONGOING, BUT ALSO GENERAL KNOWLEDGE TO THE CAMPGROUND TO WHERE MY STAFF COULD REACH OUT TO HIM AND GET, UM,
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INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS BUILT, WHERE THINGS MAY BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH LIKE A WATERLINE BREAK OR ANY KIND OF, UH, MAINTENANCE NEEDS.AND THEN REAL QUICK, I, I JUST WANNA SHARE WITH OUR, OUR GUESTS WHO ARE HERE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY OF COURSE, BUT IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO LEAVE, WE WON'T THINK ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY OF YOU AS WELL.
I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT WORK THAT WE DO HERE, BUT I ALSO KNOW, UM, THAT IT MAYBE ISN'T AS RELATED TO, UH, YOUR AREA OF INTEREST.
SO PLEASE FEEL FREE, UM, TO, TO, TO GO IF YOU'D LIKE.
BUT YOU'RE ALSO WELCOME TO STAY AND WE'LL, THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, EVERYONE.
I, I THINK THIS IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY EXCITED BACK IN, UM, BACK DURING THE SUMMER I GOT TO RECORD ON THE FREMONT PODCAST.
AND THROUGH THAT I WAS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER SOME REALLY, UM, EXCITING POINTS ABOUT THIS SITE, WHICH I THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO SHARE, UH, TODAY, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE IN BETWEEN PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT HAD OPENED, AS YOU MENTIONED, IN AUGUST OF 2021.
AND, UM, SOME OF THE DATA POINTS THAT I HAVE FROM THE FREMONT PODCAST, UH, THAT I PRESENTED WAS THAT WE WERE FULLY RESERVED FOR THE FIRST TIME MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND OF 2022, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WERE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF, YOU KNOW, THE PANDEMIC ECONOMY.
UM, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY I, I THINK ALSO THROUGH THAT PANDEMIC ECONOMY, WE, WE SAW AN INCREASE IN REGARDS TO RV USE AND VAN LIFE, AND PEOPLE WANTING TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF EXPERIENCE.
SO IN A WAY, WE MET THE MOMENT IN REGARDS TO THE OPENING OF DUNBAR AND QUARRY AND, UM, AND BEING ABLE TO BE THIS TYPE OF FACILITY.
AND, UM, IT REALLY IS ONE OF THE FIRST URBAN CAMPGROUND DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY.
AND WHEN THE NEWEST LARGE CAMPGROUNDS OPENED IN CALIFORNIA IN THREE DECADES.
UH, AND I, I THINK THAT THAT'S A HUGE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE PARK DISTRICT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY PROUD OF TO BE ABLE TO, UH, CELEBRATE AND REPRESENT.
AND I THINK THAT THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, AND I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ON THE PARK ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT, AND IT REALLY IS AN INNOVATIVE PROJECT, UM, IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, TAKING A FORMER QUARRY AND BEING ABLE TO, UH, TURN IT INTO THIS, YOU KNOW, RECREATION AND CAMPING, UH, FACILITY.
AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PHASE TWO PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
AND AS I MENTIONED, I, I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A PRETTY, UM, STRAIGHTFORWARD REQUEST AND ONE THAT I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I'LL SHARE IS I, I'VE BEEN, UM, PERSONALLY INTERESTED SINCE DECEMBER IN REGARDS TO BETTER UNDERSTANDING THE NEARBY, UM, DAWN EDWARDS FISH AND WILDLIFE, UM, RESERVE.
AND I, I THINK IT'S REALLY EXCITING THAT OUR DUNBAR AND QUARRY HAS A DIRECT TRAIL TO THAT WILDLIFE REFUGE.
AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW, UM, HERE AT EAST BAY REGIONAL PARKS, WE CAN BE THIS, UH, CONNECTING SITE TO STATE PARKS.
AND IN THIS CASE, THIS IS ACTUALLY A FEDERAL FISH AND WILDLIFE, UM, LOCATION.
AND I, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S GREAT THAT WE, WE HAVE THIS ABILITY, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT PHASE TWO BECAUSE IT'LL JUST HELP OPEN UP EVEN MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, CAMPING AND, UH, ACTIVITY SITES WITH THE CABIN, WITH THE CONVENIENCE CABINS AND ALSO THE GROUP CAMPS.
I KNOW THAT, UH, A LOT OF THIS IS SO, UM, ATTRACTIVE JUST EVEN TO LOCAL FAMILIES AND LOCAL BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL SCOUT TROOPS THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO GATHER AND HAVE THIS TYPE OF CAMPING EXPERIENCE.
SO, UM, I, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? FOR THIS ITEM? OKAY.
AND THEN DID YOU WANNA MAKE A FEW COMMENTS? DIRECTOR CORBIT, BUT I, I, I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE MOTION, UM, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS.
UH, I WOULD JUST SAY, UH, IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THE CONTINUED MOVEMENT FORWARD OF GETTING THIS COMPLETED.
SOME OF US WERE AROUND WAY BACK WHEN THAT WAS JUST LAND AND THE REUSE OF LAND IN OTHER TYPES OF USES,
AND, UH, IT'S JUST SUCH A POSITIVE, UH, SITUATION.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S TIME TO HAVE ANOTHER PARTY DOWN THERE TO CELEBRATE WHAT A GREAT PLACE IT IS.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST VERY NICE TO SEE IT MOVING FORWARD AND OBVIOUSLY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PERSON TO WATCH WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE TO MAKE SURE THE WORK GETS DONE WELL.
IT'S A, IT'S A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S SOMEONE THERE KEEPING AN EYE ON KEEPING THINGS SAFE AS THAT WORK MOVES FORWARD.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT THOUGHT AND THAT IDEA.
AND IT'S SO NICE TO CONTINUE TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD.
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BUT I THINK IT'S TIME TO HAVE ANOTHER ANNIVERSARYIF YOU WANNA DO THAT, UH, LET US KNOW.
AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
UM, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
AND THEN I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO ITEMS. DO WE WANNA TAKE A QUICK BREAK HOWEVER, UM, OR DO YOU WANNA WORK THROUGH THE BREAK WOULD BE GOOD.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A QUICK, LET'S MAKE IT A SEVEN MINUTE BREAK.
WE ARE BACK FOR PART TWO OF OUR OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING.
[Informational Items]
IT'S AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM AND IT IS OUR REVIEW OF THE 2024 OPERATIONS COMMITTEE WORK PLAN.COMMITTEE RE TE ACTING BUSINESS SERVICES MANAGER.
THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL UPDATE ON OUR 2024 WORK PLAN.
UH, WE DEVELOPED THIS WORK PLAN BACK IN 2023, AND IS JUST AS A REMINDER OF THE PROCESS.
THE OUTGOING COMMITTEE IN 2023 HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE WORK PLAN AND ADD ANY SUGGESTIONS OR INPUT, WHICH ARE THEN APPROVED BY THIS COMMITTEE, UH, FOR CONSOLIDATION INTO THIS YEAR.
THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES DICTATE THAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS COMMITTEE ARE REVIEWING AND RECOMMENDING OPERATIONAL POLICIES TO THE FULL BOARD, ENSURING OPERATING OBJECTIVES ARE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH PERIODIC REPORTS AND EVALUATING PROGRAMS TO ENSURE OPERATION IS IN ACCORDANCE TO BOARD ESTABLISHED POLICY, AS WELL AS REVIEWING CONCESSIONAIRE AND SPECIAL USE AGREEMENTS AS WE JUST DID, AND AS WELL AS REVIEWING ANNUAL FEES AND CHARGES.
UH, THIS YEAR WE KIND OF HAD A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE THE OUTGOING COMMITTEE HAPPENS TO BE THE INCOMING COMMITTEE, SO THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, A REVIEW AND, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DIVE IN.
SO, UH, THE FIRST ITEM UNDER POLICY REVIEWS AND RECOMMENDATIONS WE'LL BRING FORTH THIS YEAR IS THE 2025 CONSOLIDATED FEE SCHEDULE.
AND, UM, AS WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER IN 2023, WE CONDUCTED OUR FEE STUDY.
SO FROM THAT FEE STUDY, WE WANNA TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND BRING THEM, UH, BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL BY THE FULL BOARD.
WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCESSIONAIRE AND SPECIAL USE AGREEMENTS THAT WILL BE REVIEWED THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE.
THEY INCLUDE REVIEW OF THE AGRICULTURAL LEASE AT COYOTE HILLS REGIONAL PARK.
THIS IS CURRENTLY, UM, POSTED AS AN RFP, AND WE HOPE TO SOLICIT SOME GOOD INPUT FROM FARMERS THAT'LL BE CLOSING SOON.
UM, WE ARE RE-ENGAGING WITH OUR TALKS WITH THE REDWOOD VALLEY RAILWAY AND, UM, INTEND TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT THIS YEAR BROUGHT FORWARD.
UM, THE CARETAKER AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS JUST, UH, RECOMMENDED BY YOU AT DUNBARTON QUARRY CAMPGROUND ON THE BAY IS ANOTHER ITEM, AS WELL AS THE LOST TRUMPET STABLES ITEM WE JUST REVIEWED.
NEXT MONTH, WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD THE COMMUNICATION SITE AGREEMENT WITH CROWN CASTLE AT MISSION PEAK REGIONAL PRESERVE.
IT'S A PRESERVE AND, UM, WE CURRENTLY ARE POSTING OUR RFP FOR THE ARDEN WOOD WEDDING AND FOOD CONCESSION.
AND, UH, HOPE TO GET SOME RESPONSES TO THAT SOON.
WE ALSO HAVE A FEW ADDITIONAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF PLEASANT, UH, CITY OF PLEASANTON, A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, UM, A SPECIAL USE AGREEMENT WITH TRI-CITIES HORSEMEN, AS WELL AS OUR SPECIAL USE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF, UH, FREMONT FOR THE PATTERSON HOUSE.
WE ALSO WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF INFORMATIONAL REPORTS AND DISCUSSION TOPICS THAT WE WILL BRING FORWARD.
UM, WE, WE MAY ALSO ADD ADDITIONAL ITEMS AS THINGS COME UP.
SO THIS, THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY IT, THEY, THERE COULD BE MORE, UH, PER YOUR SUGGESTION, WE'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE 20 TO 23 WINTER STORMS FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BY, UH, CHIEF KENNEDY.
WE, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, I'LL BE BACK TO PROVIDE A REVIEW OF THIS WORK PLAN AND THEN INTRODUCE A DRAFT OF 2020 FIVE'S WORK PLAN.
WE WILL GET A RESERVATIONS PROGRAM UPDATE FROM OUR RESERVATION SUPERVISOR, AS WELL AS OUR ANNUAL UPDATE ON THE OUTREACH WORK DONE AT TIDEWATER BY THE, UH, OAKLAND STROKES.
WE WILL GET AN UPDATE FROM CHIEF CASTILE ON THE PARK, UH, OPERATIONS REORGANIZATION.
AND WE WILL RECEIVE UPDATES FROM BOTH THE SOUTHEAST REGION AND NORTHWEST REGION OF INR.
AND I DID MAKE A NOTE AND PASS ON THAT, UM, SPECIFIC WORK RELATED TO DEI INITIATIVES WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THOSE PRESENTATIONS.
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LAST MONTH.WE WILL ALSO RECEIVE UPDATES FROM THE THREE PARK OPERATIONS UNITS THAT DIDN'T PRESENT IN 2023, THOSE BEING THE RECREATION AREAS UNIT, THE LAKES UNIT, AND THE PARK LANDS UNIT.
UM, WE ALSO GOT A RECOMMENDATION TO REPORT OUT ON THE SMALL TRAILS CREW.
SO MAST WILL ALSO BE DOING AN UPDATE ON THAT.
UH, WE JUST STARTED OUR NUISANCE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES THIS YEAR, AND, UM, WE'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON HOW THOSE ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED A YEAR OUT.
UH, TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR, PUBLIC SAFETY WILL ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS. AS A REMINDER, THIS COMMITTEE IS ALSO PUBLIC SAFETY'S COMMITTEE TO BRING FORTH ANY ITEMS THAT THEY HAVE.
SO THEY WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS.
UM, THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION POLICY UPDATES, THEIR GENERAL ANNUAL UPDATES SO THEY CAN CHOOSE TO PRESENT ON ANY ITEM OF THEIR CHOICE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, INPUT FROM THIS COMMITTEE, UM, AT THE END OF LAST YEAR TO REPORT OUT ON VARIOUS FUELS AND FIRE AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
SO THERE'LL BE A COMPREHENSIVE DISTRICT-WIDE FUELS MANAGEMENT UPDATE COMING FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS A PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE PROGRAM UPDATE, AN UPDATE ON PUBLIC SAFETY DRONES.
AND THEN, UH, A GM GORIAN WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE RESOURCE ALLOCATION STUDY, WHICH IS, UH, INITIATING THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, THAT REVIEW.
UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE? YES, GO AHEAD, DEAN.
IT'S AMAZING HOW MUCH WORK WE DO HERE,
UH, BUT, UM, ON NUMBER 12 WITH THE SMALL TRAILS MM, UM, UH, UPDATE, CAN WE ALSO GET AN UPDATE? CAN THAT INCLUDE THE YEP AND HOW THAT PROGRAM IS BEING INTEGRATED? UH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, THAT IS, THAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO, UH, CHIEF KENNEDY.
I THINK ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS RELATED TO SMALL TRAILS.
AND THEN, UM, THIS IS JUST A QUESTION.
UM, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD KIND OF A LOOSE, UH, UH, RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FRIENDS OF SAUSAL CREEK, UH, THE REGIONAL PARKS.
AND I WAS, AND THEY HAVE A NEW, UM, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR LISA GIORDANO, AND SHE ASKED IF WE COULD POSSIBLY MEET AND CREATE, UH, AN MOU SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN ACTUAL AGREEMENT, UH, TO DATE.
I MEAN, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE MADE SIGNS FOR THEM.
IN FACT, THEIR, UH, THEIR MAIN ENTRANCE SIGN AT THE, UH, DIAMOND CANYON TRAIL IS A HAND CARVED SIGN THAT SAYS IN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT.
AND WE'VE ALSO WE'RE, UH, COLLABORATING WITH THE PALLET MANZANITA, UH, ALONG WEST TRAIL.
SO, UH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A, UH, SOMETHING FORMAL SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND THEY CAN KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, WE CAN BRING THAT TO THE GM AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH HER.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, UH, AS IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, IT'LL COME THROUGH HERE.
I WASN'T SURE WHICH WAY TO GO.
I'LL BRING IT, I'LL BRING IT UP.
'CAUSE WITH MY ONE-ON-ONE WITH, UH, SABRINA AS WELL.
I WOULD JUST SAY I ALWAYS APPRECIATE, UH, THIS PARTICULAR SORT OF ITEM THAT WE GET EACH YEAR THAT SHOWS US WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON IN THE UPCOMING YEAR AND THINGS.
AND IT ACTUALLY TOUCHES ON THINGS THAT WE WORKED ON IN THE PAST TOO.
THIS IS A VERY THOROUGH ITEM THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE REST OF THE YEAR.
YES, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS EXCELLENT.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE WINTER STORM 2023 WINTER STORM, UM, UPDATE AND LOOKING AT THAT FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE, I, I HAD THE, THE, THE HONOR TO BE AT SUNOL ON, UM, WAS IT SATURDAY NOW ALREADY A SATURDAY FOR OUR FIRST 90TH ANNIVERSARY EVENT, THE SUNOL, UH, PARK BIOBLITZ.
AND IT WAS REALLY AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE.
I WANT TO SHARE, UM, WHERE WE USE THE INATURALIST APP TO HELP, UH, PUT IN PHOTOS OF, UM, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PLANT AND ANIMAL WILDLIFE THAT WE ENCOUNTERED ON THE TRAIL.
AND OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR SNO VISITOR CENTER DID SUCH A GREAT JOB IN REGARDS TO THE BIOBLITZ AND ORGANIZING THAT ACTIVITY.
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WHILE ON THE BIOBLITZ SOME DIFFERENT, UM, WINTER STORM, UH, I GUESS DAMAGE WAS POINTED OUT TO ME, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF THIS HAS BUBBLED UP, AND SOME OF IT MAYBE HADN'T BUBBLED UP 'CAUSE IT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AS, UM, SIGNIFICANT AS SOME OF THE OTHER STORM DAMAGE THAT WE HAD EXPERIENCED.SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD TWO TRAIL SIGNS THAT WERE ALMOST COMPLETELY UNDER, UM, UNDER DIRT BECAUSE OF THE, UH, EROSION AND THE DIRT THAT HAD BEEN MOVED DURING THE STORMS. AND I KNOW THOSE ARE JUST TWO SIGNPOSTS, BUT THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE.
AND THEN ALSO THE FACT THAT THE, UH, TRAIL AND THE GROUND HAD BEEN RAISED SO SIGNIFICANTLY TO ALMOST COVER THE TWO SIGNPOSTS.
AND THEN THERE'S A FEW CROSSINGS, UM, ON THE TRAIL THAT WE WENT ON WHERE WE HAD TO CROSS OVER THE CREEKS AND, UM, THEY WEREN'T, THEY, THEY, THEY WERE FINE TO CROSS OVER, BUT IT WAS HELPFUL TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR NATURALISTS WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE TAKING THE SAFEST ROUTES ACROSS THE CREEKS.
AND IT MAY BE THAT, UM, IF YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN, IT MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BE OBVIOUS WHAT THE SAFEST ROUTE IS.
AND SO WHILE THESE MIGHT NOT BE AS, UM, SUBSTANTIAL AS SOME OF THE OTHER WINTER STORM DAMAGE, I KNOW I SAW PHOTOS OF, AND I KNOW THAT WE WORKED ON, I THINK SOME OF THESE, UM, ASPECTS OF THINGS SHOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THIS, UM, WINTER STORM REPORT AND, UH, AND HOW WE'RE, UH, GOING TO BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE SMALLER THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
UM, AND THEN MY NEXT COMMENT IS IN REGARDS TO NUMBER SEVEN AND EIGHT, IN TERMS OF THE INFORMATIONAL REPORTS, THE INTERPRETIVE AND RECREATION SERVICES UPDATES.
UM, I I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, IF THIS WILL BE A LOT OF EXTRA WORK, AND IF IT'S A LOT OF EXTRA WORK, THEN I DON'T RECOMMEND THIS.
BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, INSTITUTIONS WITHIN OUR REGIONS THAT DO SIMILAR WORK OR ARE, OR WE EXPECT THEM TO HAVE SIMILAR WORK, IT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE THAT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, AGAIN, UM, GOING TO SUN ON SATURDAY, I PASSED BY THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSIONS, UM, A SUN WATER TEMPLE, AND THEY ARE OPENING UP THE ALAMEDA CREEK WATERSHED INTERPRETIVE CENTER.
AND I NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO OPEN IT UP ACTUALLY IN EARLY 2024, AND THEY, UH, PUT A SIGN OVER IT.
NOW IT SAYS LATE 2024, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR, UM, SOME SORT OF UPDATE ON THAT IF POSSIBLE.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE SOME REGULAR MEETINGS WITH S-F-P-U-C, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION ON THERE.
A A ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS NEW INTERPRETIVE CENTER THAT'S OPENING UP, UM, AS PART OF THE S-F-P-U-C ORGANIZATION.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EARLIER IN TODAY'S COMMITTEE MEETING, I MENTIONED THE DON EDWARDS WILDLIFE.
I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT CENTER, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, AT DUNBAR AND QUARRY, THERE IS A TRAIL THAT CONNECTS TO DON EDWARDS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UH, SITES.
AND IT MIGHT JUST BE A MATTER OF, UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A LOT OF EXTRA WORK, BUT MAYBE IF THERE WAS EVEN JUST A MAP THAT HAD EACH OF THESE OTHER SITES THAT WE'RE AWARE OF WITHIN PARKS, UH, WHETHER IT'S NATIONAL PARKS AS A PUC OR US FISH AND WILDLIFE INCLUDED ON THE MAP, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO SEE.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK THIS IS REALLY COMPREHENSIVE.
IT IS REALLY NICE THAT WE GET TO CONTINUE ANOTHER YEAR TOGETHER, THE THREE OF US.
SO THAT, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR THIS COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.
AND AS I SAID AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, AND I, I STILL BELIEVE THIS, YOU KNOW, ONE YEAR ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, I THINK I'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE PARK DISTRICT THAN I DID ON MY SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS ON THE PAC, THOUGH I DID LEARN A LOT ON THE PAC, BUT, UM, I, I THINK THAT WE REALLY DO COVER A LOT HERE ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, AND IT JUST MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I KNOW SO MUCH MORE ABOUT OUR OVERALL PARK DISTRICT.
SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER SUCH A GREAT WORK PLAN AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING.
AND SINCE IT'S INFORMATIONAL, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY SORT OF APPROVAL.
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND THEN CLOSE THIS ITEM IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH WE DON'T.
UM, THERE WAS A COUPLE INCIDENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, THE VALIER OR, UH, COUPLE INCIDENTS OVER THE, OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.
THE, THE WOMAN THAT HAD HER OVERTURNED HER CAR AT, UM, LAKE DEL VALLEY IN THE CREEK THERE, AND THEN, UH, THE WOMAN THAT WAS FOUND IN AT TILDEN, UH, I THINK THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO GET HEADS UP WHEN THOSE INCIDENTS HAPPENED.
UH, I THINK, I THINK WE ALL SAW SOME OF THOSE THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE NEWS MEDIA.
UH, IF WE, IF, IF, UH, IF WE CAN GET SOME, SOME KIND OF HEADS UP THAT, THAT THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN THAT WAY WE'RE AWARE THAT, UH, AND JUST IN CASE OUR CONSTITUENTS GIVE US A CALL.
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SO, UM, YEAH.AND THAT, THAT KIND OF LEADS TO, REGARDING THE INCIDENT AT, AT, UH, LAKE VALIER.
WE DON'T HAVE A RESIDENT THERE ANYMORE, DO WE? WE AT LAKE DELVAL, THERE IS A CAMP HOST THAT RESIDES THERE.
THAT SEEMED LIKE THE, UM, UH, THE WOMAN WAS IN THE UPSIDE DOWN IN THE CREEK FOR QUITE A WHILE.
SO, UH, JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT, HOW, HOW THAT PLAYED OUT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME DETAILS ON THAT.
I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT MADE AVAILABLE TO US.
UM, IN THE PAST WE USED TO GET, UM, MORE REPORTS ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH, UM, TYPICALLY AUTO ACCIDENTS OR AUTO, UH, WE DON'T SEEM TO GET THE INFORMATION IN ADVANCE LIKE WE USED TO.
AND IT MIGHT BE JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NEWS IS PUTTING IT UP ON THE TV SET BEFORE THERE'S A CHANCE TO LET US KNOW.
BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, IT WOULD BE NICE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE PEOPLE DO CALL US AND ASK US QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, AND IT'S NEVER A GOOD THING WHEN WE SAY, OH, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
SO IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO, UM, HAVE THAT INFORMATION WHENEVER POSSIBLE IN ADVANCE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE PUBLIC MEMBERS AND BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
AND, AND THANK YOU DIRECTORS FOR THAT INFORMATION.
SO THAT'S INFORMATION THAT I CAN WORK WITH OUR GENERAL MANAGER AND THE NEW CHIEF, UM, TO, SO THAT WE'RE COORDINATED IN OUR COMMUNICATION.
IN THE PAST, IT WAS JUST A REPORT THAT WAS ALWAYS LISTED WITH THESE KIND OF EVENTS, AND WE, WE JUST GET A, YOU KNOW, EMAIL.
SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT JUST TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO LICENSE PLATE READERS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, STEP DOWN, AND AS WE'RE PREPARING, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE.
I WAS AT SHADOW CLIFFS YESTERDAY, AND I DID SEE A MEMBER OF OUR, OR I DID SEE ONE OF OUR POLICE, UM, PATROL AT SHADOW CLIFFS YESTERDAY ON PATROL, SO THAT, THAT, THAT MADE ME EXCITED.
I TRIED TO WAVE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY SAW ME WAVING
IT'S GOOD TO BE AT A PARK AND TO SEE OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, POLICE ON PATROL.
UH, CHAIR SAN WONG, BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND A GM GORGEN.
VERY, VERY EXCITED AND HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT A, UH, PROGRAM THAT WE'RE INSTITUTING, UH, FOR AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS, UH, IN OUR PARKS.
MY NAME IS, UH, TERRANCE KOCHER, AND I AM THE, UH, PATROL OPERATIONS CAPTAIN FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM.
UH, UH, THIS IS BASICALLY A TWO YEAR TRIAL PROJECT, UH, FOR THE INSTALLATION OF 14 A LPR CAMERAS.
UH, THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY FROM FLOCK AND THE ASSOCIATED A LPR DATABASES.
ACCESS TO THOSE, UH, THESE CAMERA LOCATIONS WERE CHOSEN, UH, TO BE DISPERSED GEOGRAPHICALLY FROM ONE ANOTHER.
AND IN AREAS WITH STRONG CELLULAR, UH, CONNECTIVITY, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THE CAMERAS WORK.
AND IN AREAS, UH, THAT ARE WELL KNOWN FOR VARIED CRIME TRENDS.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING A, UH, GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PARK DISTRICT IN REGARDS TO CRIME.
SO THAT ONE CAN THEN COME BACK TO YOU AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, UH, AND SHOW YOU THE FRUITS OF OUR LABOR AND HOW THIS PROGRAM IS WORKING AND HOW IT'S HELPING US.
UM, REALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT ALPS, THIS IS A PROLONGATION, IF YOU WILL, OF, UM, EFFORTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE FIELD, UH, WITH PARK OPERATIONS.
IF YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH GAME CAMERAS, THEY'RE BATTERY OPERATED.
WE'VE KIND OF RUN OUT OF USABILITY OF THEM.
UH, IT TAKES A LOT OF STAFF TIME TO KEEP THEM GOING.
AND THIS IS BASICALLY A MODERN INTERPRETATION OF THOSE CAMERAS THAT IS GONNA HELP US QUITE A BIT, AND I'LL GO INTO THAT AS WE GO.
SO, OUR CURRENT REALITY, WE HAVE LIMITED POLICE RESOURCES.
THIS IS ACROSS THE ENTIRE FIELD.
I THINK WE DO A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB OF KEEPING A SAFE PARK DISTRICT.
UM, BUT THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT WE LIAISE WITH OR THAT WE'RE IN CONCERT WITH, UH, ARE HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH CRIME.
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HAVE ALSO SHOWN US THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS WORKED.AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT, UM, AS WE GO FARTHER INTO THE PRESENTATION.
UH, SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US AND WHY IT MAKES, WHY WE'RE SO EXCITED AT A LINE LEVEL ALL THE WAY UP TO OUR BRAND NEW CHIEF, UM, IS BECAUSE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER.
UM, THIS ALLOWS US TO CAPTURE AND DISTRIBUTE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, UM, THE EVIDENCE THAT WE NEED TO THE RIGHT USER SO WE CAN TAKE ACTION, UM, AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
AND IN THE END, ALL OF THIS IS IN AN EFFORT TO CREATE AN EVEN SAFER PARK DISTRICT, UH, FOR NOT ONLY STAFF, PATRONS AND OUR OWN OFFICERS.
SO HOW DOES THIS TECHNOLOGY ELIMINATE OR PREVENT CRIME? SO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS IS A PROACTIVE PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY.
UM, THIS ALLOWS FOR REAL TIME ALERT ALERTS, UH, TO GO TO, UH, APPROPRIATE, UH, PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S DISPATCH, UH, OFFICERS IN THE FIELD, UH, FOR WANTED VEHICLES OR STOLEN VEHICLES THAT ENTER OUR JURISDICTION.
UH, SECONDLY, THIS IS AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL, AND THAT'S HOW WE'VE USED IT, UM, IN THE RECENT PAST.
UH, ACCESS TO, UH, THESE DATABASES REALLY HELP US CLEAR CASES, AND WE'LL SHOW SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT, UH, AS WE GO FORWARD.
UM, A LPR IS JUST THE FACT THAT THEY'RE THERE AND INSTALLED IN OUR PARKS IS A DETERRENT, UH, WHICH IS HALF THE BATTLE FOR US.
IF THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE PLACE THAT THEY'RE GONNA, UH, END UP, UH, DOING CRIME.
UH, SO WHAT DO YOU GET? SO IF YOU LOOK IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER, UM, THE FLOCK, A LPR SYSTEM IS BASED OFF OF, UH, THE BACK OF VEHICLES.
IT LOOKS AT REAR LICENSE PLATES, AND IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THAT VEHICLE IS AND A LICENSE PLATE OF THAT VEHICLE.
SO, FLOCK SAFETY WILL PROVIDE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH INDISCRIMINATE EVIDENCE, UH, FROM FIXED LOCATIONS.
UH, FLOCK PROVIDES ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE SO THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER DISTRICT STAFF CAN FOCUS ON KEEPING PARKS SAFE, KEEPING PARKS OPEN, KEEPING PARKS CLEAN, UM, IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE FREE.
UH, FLOCK ENDS UP TAKING CARE OF ALL OF THAT.
THEY'LL INSTALL THE POLE, UH, EVERYTHING THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND BASICALLY, WE ARE LEASING THESE DEVICES, UH, FROM FLOCK.
SO IT'S, IT'S LIKE PUTTING, UH, A POLICE OFFICER'S EYES, UH, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR, UM, ON THESE SELECT PARKING LOTS.
UH, IT'S REAL TIME, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, AND IT'S ETHICALLY MADE.
SO THIS IS NOT FACIAL RECOGNITION.
THIS IS NOT HAVING TO DO WITH PEOPLE.
THIS IS NOT FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, AND THIS IS NOT INDISCRIMINATE EVIDENCE.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO MORE IN DEPTH IN THOSE, UH, THOSE AREAS.
SO AGAIN, WHAT IT IS, IT IS LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION.
IT GATHERS OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE.
OBJECTIVE IS A REALLY IMPORTANT WORD IN THAT, UH, BULLET POINT.
IT ALERTS THE POLICE OF WANTED VEHICLES.
IT HELPS SOLVE CRIME, AND IT ADHERES TO ALL STATE LAWS.
UH, WHAT THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT FACIAL RECOGNITION.
THIS IS NOT TIED TO PII OR PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION.
THIS IS NOT USED FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.
AND ONE OF THE, UH, HALLMARKS OF FLOCK IS THAT THIS DATA IS NOT STORED BEYOND 30 DAYS.
SO, UH, THE DATA IS CONSTANTLY ROTATING.
UM, UNLESS WE NEED IT FOR A CASE, THEN IT CAN BE PULLED DOWN AND SAVED OBVIOUSLY IN PERPETUITY, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE NEEDS OF THAT CASE.
UM, AND SUBJECT TO OUR RECORDS RETENTION POLICY.
SO THE 14 LOCATIONS ARE LISTED HERE.
I CAN GO THROUGH THEM VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
UH, MARTIN LUTHER KING IS, UH, BASICALLY EVERY ENTRY, UH, ENTRANCE HAS A CAMERA.
UH, GARRIN HAS, UH, TWO CAMERAS, MAIN ENTRANCE AND DRY CREEK.
UM, SOME OF THEM ARE VERY, VERY, SOME OF OUR PARKS ARE VERY EASY TO COVER BASED ON, THERE'S ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT, WHICH MAKES IT, UH, ECONOMICAL AND ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US.
UH, SO WE CHOSE BLACK DIAMOND CONTRAL, UM, FOR THOSE REASONS, ALONG WITH SHADOW CLIPS AS WELL.
AND THEN WE PUT IN, UH, THE TRUDEAU CENTER UP AT 11 500 SKYLINE BECAUSE OF ITS, UH, PROPENSITY FOR AUTO BURGLARIES, UH, AND OUR, OUR INTERNAL USES OF IT CONSISTENTLY, CONSTANTLY.
UH, AND THE FINAL ONE WAS, UH, CARINA STRAIGHT REGIONAL SHORELINE, BULL VALLEY STAGING.
THAT'S ONE OF THOSE STAGING AREAS THAT'S, UM, HARD TO GET TO.
UM, AND WE DO SEE, UH, STRANGE EVENTS HAPPEN, UM, OUT THERE ON A SEMI-REGULAR BASIS.
SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT 24 7 COVERAGE.
SO JUST TO GO BACK OF, UH, PROTECTING PRIVACY, UH, THE, THE FOOTAGE THAT'S, UH, CREATED, THE IMAGES THAT ARE CREATED, UH, ARE OWNED BY OUR AGENCY, AND THEY WILL NEVER BE SOLD OR SHARED BY FLOCK.
THERE IS A 30 DAY RETENTION PERIOD, AND THEN IT'S DELETED UNLESS WE DO RETAIN THAT FOR EVIDENCE.
UH, THE SHORT REPE, UH, RETENTION PERIOD ENSURES THAT, UM, DATA THAT'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A CRIME OR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS AUTOMATICALLY DELETED AND NOT RECOVERABLE.
IT TAKES THE HUMAN BIAS OUT OF SOLVING A DETECTING, UH, CRIME BASED ON IT BEING, UH, OBJECTIVE DATA, UM, AND REALLY FOCUSING ON,
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UH, THE LOCATION INSTEAD OF THE PERSON.ALL OF THE DATA IS SECURED IN, UH, AWS CLOUD, UM, AND IS END, END ENCRYPTED.
UH, THE SEARCH REASON IS REQUIRED.
UM, WHEN WE DO END UP TAKING IN DATA AND SEARCHING FOR IT, WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A LEGITIMATE REASON TO BE DOING THAT, AND THAT'S, UH, CODIFIED IN OUR POLICY AND PROCEDURE.
UH, THIS IS NOT RE, UH, FACIAL RECOGNITION SOFTWARE.
IT IS NOT PREDICTIVE POLICING.
THERE'S NO PII, WHICH IS PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION, AND IT IS NOT USED FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.
THIS IS ALSO NOT CONNECTED TO ANY, UH, EXTERNAL THIRD PARTY DATABASES.
THIS IS OUR INTERNAL DATABASE THAT WE CAN CHOOSE, UH, IF WE WOULD LIKE OTHER AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT OR NOT.
AND THE FINAL THING IS A TRANSPARENCY PORTAL.
SO FLOCK DOES PROVIDE AND ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE A FORWARD FACING CITIZEN, UH, REVIEW OF BASICALLY HOW MANY, UH, HITS HAVE POPPED UP, WHAT THOSE HITS HAVE CONSISTED OF WHERE THEY'VE POPPED UP.
AND THAT'S JUST A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND IS COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO, AS I MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES, THIS TECHNOLOGY, ALTHOUGH NOT OUR CAMERAS, HAS ALREADY HELPED US SOLVE A NUMBER OF CRIMES.
UM, PRETTY SOME HIGH PROFILE, UH, VIOLENT CRIMES.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE'S FOUR EXAMPLES.
UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING SHORELINE, A HOMICIDE FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING SHORELINE, UH, A CARJACKING FROM GARRIN, AND AN ATTEMPTED HOMICIDE, UH, CASE FROM ECKLEY PIER.
AND THERE'S A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF, OF THOSE, UH, INSTANCES, UH, THERE.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO, UM, HEAR ANY COMMENTS OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
UM, I'LL OPEN UP TO MY COLLEAGUES FIRST IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
I, UH, ANYTHING THAT'LL HELP OUR OFFICERS AND, UH, THE PUBLIC FEEL SAFE.
UM, SO, SO THESE, UH, THESE CAMERAS AREN'T PORTABLE.
AND, UH, DO WE HAVE A, UM, A HISTORY OF, UH, OF HOW, HOW OFTEN THEY GET VANDALIZED? SO THERE IS, THERE IS THE LIKELIHOOD OR THE, OR THE PROBABILITY THAT THEY COULD BE VANDALIZED.
UH, SOME OF THAT IS COVERED BY FLOCK.
UM, BUT, UH, SOME OF IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL.
UM, WE ARE BANKING ON THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GONNA BE INVISIBLE LOCATIONS, UM, THAT WOULD NOT ONLY DETER THE, UH, AN AUTO BREAK IN, UM, OR SOME KIND OF ASSAULT, BUT WOULD ALSO DETER THE, UM, THE VANDALIZATION OF THOSE AS WELL.
UH, AND THEN I WAS WONDERING IF, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, WORK WITH OUR ADJACENT AGENCIES, CITY SISTER, CITIES HERE? UH, I'M THINKING SPECIFIC OF OAKLAND, UH, AND IN PARTICULAR, LIKE, UH, WATERLOO STAGING AREA, REINHARDT REDWOOD, THAT PARKING LOT IS ON OAKLAND PROPERTY, BUT PEOPLE GO THERE AND THEY ASSUME THAT'S OUR PARKING LOT.
BUT, UM, AS SOON AS THEY STEP INTO THE, ACROSS THE FENCE THERE, THEY AREN'T, THEY'RE IN REINHARD REDWOOD, THEY'RE ON EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT, SO I KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS THERE.
AND A LOT OF 'EM WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING SOME KIND OF A, A CAMERA PROGRAM WHERE THEY, WE COULD PUT CAMERAS ALONG THEIR, IN THEIR HOMES OR IN THEIR, IN THE JURISDICTION OF THEIR HOMES, UH, TO HELP RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THERE AT THE, AT, AT THAT PARTICULAR STAGING AREA.
SO IS IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? SO THE, UM, THERE ARE SOME AGENCIES THAT, THAT ARE VERY EASY TO WORK WITH, AND THERE'S SOME AGENCIES THAT, THAT AREN'T AS EASY TO WORK WITH.
UM, SOME OF THE MOMENTUM OF, OF OUR PROJECT COMING FORWARD IN OUR TIMELINE IS TIED TO OUR BROTHER AND SISTER AGENCIES AS WELL.
UM, YOU MENTIONED, UH, THE OAKLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE COMING, UH, TOGETHER WITH FLOCK, UH, ACTUALLY FOR A FEW HUNDRED CAM, I THINK UP TO 500 CAMERAS IN THE CITY OF, OF OAKLAND.
I DON'T QUITE KNOW WHERE EXACTLY THAT IS.
UM, I HAVE HAD SOME INTERACTIONS WITH THE DECISION MAKERS ON THEIR PD SIDE TO, ON DECISIONS OF WHAT, UH, INTERSECTIONS TO COVER, WHAT AREAS TO COVER.
UM, AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE NOT VERY OPEN TO, UH, TAKING INFORMATION FROM THE OUTSIDE TO TRY TO, UH, COVER LARGER AREAS.
UM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH, LET'S SAY THE CITY OF BERKELEY, UH, WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN US PUSHING FORWARD OUR PROGRAM.
UM, UM, AND THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE AS EVERYBODY GETS MORE SETTLED, UM, THAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S USED PER CAMERA IS RELATIVELY LOW.
SO, UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT NOT TO GO TOO FAR, BUT I DO ENVISION A TIME WHERE THERE'S NOT A STAGING AREA IN THE PARK DISTRICT THAT'S NOT COVERED BY ONE OF THESE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JUICE IS WORTH THE SQUEEZE AND IT DOES WORK AS, UM,
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UM, AS ADVERTISED.AND WE WANT TO, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK OUR CONTINUED CONVERSATION WITH YOU, UM, AS THE BOARD HELP US MAKE THAT DECISION THAT IT IS WORTHWHILE, THAT WE CAN THEN MAYBE EXPAND OUR PROGRAM.
SO, AND THAT DOES MEAN MORE INTERACTION WITH, UH, PARTNER AGENCIES.
ELLEN, I BELIEVE YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING, IN THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE CHOSEN, CAN YOU JUST LET US KNOW WHY YOU CHOSE CERTAIN ONES? I'M, I'M ASSUMING IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE RECORDS ARE CURRENTLY IN THOSE AREAS.
MAYBE THAT WAS ONE PORTION OF IT.
WE, WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING ENOUGH HITS.
MM-HMM,
UH, TWO, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN A DIVERSE AREA.
WE'RE NOT JUST GETTING, UM, HITS OF STOLEN VEHICLES, WE'RE GETTING HITS OF, OR WE CAN BE USING THIS DATA TO HELP SOLVE AUTO BURGLARIES, LET'S SAY.
UH, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT BLACK DIAMOND OR, UM, UH, CONTRAL, UM, THE, THE NEEDS OF EACH PARK ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT THE PRESCRIPTION, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE PRESCRIPTION IS THE SAME.
UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT STRONG CELLULAR DATA AREAS THAT ARE GONNA PRO, GONNA PROVIDE, UM, A LOT OF HITS FOR US, AND THEN AREAS THAT ARE GONNA GIVE US ACTIONABLE DATA OR ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE, UH, ARRESTS, INVESTIGATIVELY, YOU TAKE THOSE THREE THINGS, THOSE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE STARTED, UM, PUTTING PINS IN THE MAP.
AND THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, WONDERFUL WORK YOU'RE DOING IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE TOUGH THAN OTHERS.
AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE OUR PARKS ARE ALL WONDERFUL PLACES TO GO.
THIS, THIS, UM, SOUNDS LIKE A PROMISING PROGRAM FOR US.
SO WHEN YOU MENTIONED, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE EFFECT, THE EFFECT, UH, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE ENTIRE PROGRAM.
UM, ARE YOU VIEWING THIS AS MAYBE THE FIRST KIND OF, MAYBE NOT PILOT PHASE, BUT THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROGRAM THAT POTENTIALLY, AS YOU MENTIONED, IT COULD EXPAND TO BE AT EACH ONE OF OUR STAGING AREAS? YEAH, I, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SORT OF THE FUTURE OF, UH, OUR, A PORTION OF THE FUTURE OF POLICING.
UM, IF WE DO FIND THAT THIS DOES WORK OUT THE WAY THAT WE HOPE, UH, I COULD VERY MUCH SEE THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACQUISITION OF NEW PROPERTY OR BUILDING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT THE, UM, INCLUDING TECHNOLOGY LIKE THIS IN THAT PLANNING PROCESS WOULD MAKE SENSE KIND OF IN PERPETUITY.
SO, UM, THIS IS KIND OF OUR FIRST TOE IN THE WATER, OUR FIRST LITTLE STEP.
UM, WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT IN A METERED WAY, THAT WE ARE BEING COMMUNICATIVE WITH OUR, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC AND ALSO WITH OUR DECISION MAKERS, ALL OF YOU, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT IN LOCKSTEP WITH US, UH, AS WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD.
AND THEN I HAVE TWO OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE PLACED IN AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO NOT ON LAND BANKED PROPERTY.
HAVE WE DISCUSSED, UM, SOME OF OUR LAND BANKED PROPERTY? IS THERE A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY AT THE LAND BANK PROPERTIES CURRENTLY, OR COULD THERE BE IN THE FUTURE? UM, I, I KNOW MAYBE WITH SOME LAND BANK PROPERTIES, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COULD ACCESS IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT THE PRESENT TIME.
UH, I COULD DEFINITELY SEE THIS BEING AN OPTION AND A, UH, PARTIAL, AT LEAST A PARTIAL SOLUTION FOR A LOCATION LIKE VASCO CAVES.
UM, ALTHOUGH MAKING SURE THAT WE COULD GET THE CONNECTIVITY RIGHT, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY TECHNOLOGY EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY IS PROGRESSING.
UM, SO WHAT WE COULDN'T DO EVEN SIX MONTHS AGO IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
UM, NOW, UM, THIS COULD BE A, A, UM, A FOUNDATIONAL SHIFT IN HOW WE, UM, ARE ABLE TO INCREASE SAFETY IN THE PARK DISTRICT, INCREASE, UH, OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING, UH, IN THE PARK DISTRICT ACROSS EVERYWHERE THAT WE POLICE.
SO WHETHER THAT'S LAND BANK OR WHETHER THAT'S A A, A CLASS ONE VERY ACTIVE PARK, I THINK IT HAS SOLUTIONS, UH, FOR ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF, OF SITUATIONS.
IT'S A, IT'S A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
AND AT THE POINT THAT WE ARE NOW, IT MAKES MOST SENSE TRYING TO GET THE MOST DATA THAT WE CAN TO THEN PROVIDE BACK, UM, SO THAT, UH, WE CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS COULD WORK EVERYWHERE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MY OTHER POINT, I WANNA MAKE A, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I WAS AT CHAT CLOSE YESTERDAY.
GREAT JOB BY PATROL IN TERMS OF BEING THERE WHEN I WAS THERE, AND I WAS ACTUALLY THERE WITH THE MAYOR.
YOU KNEW I WAS GONNA BE THERE.
I WAS ACTUALLY THERE WITH THE MAYOR OF PLEASANTON, AND SHE EVEN ASKED, SHE'S LIKE, OH, IS THAT US OR IS THAT YOU?
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AND I'M LIKE, OH, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S USSO I'M GLAD IT WAS, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHILE I WAS THERE, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I WAS THERE SINCE I WATCHED, AND I'M GONNA SHARE THIS BECAUSE I HAVE A POINT IN SHARING THIS.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I WAS AT SHADOW CLIFF SINCE TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN I WATCHED THE DOCUMENTARY ABOUT THE CHOWCHILLA KIDNAPPING, WHICH, UM, FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THIS REALLY SEVERE AND HORRIFIC EVENT, THE, THE BUSLOAD OF SCHOOL CHILDREN WHO WERE KIDNAPPED AND THEY WERE BROUGHT TO ONE OF THE QUARRIES IN LIVERMORE.
IT'S TWO QUARRIES OVER FROM SHADOW CLIFF.
SO NOT SHADOW CLIFFS, NOT CEMEX, BUT THE NEXT QUARRY OVER.
UM, AND IT'S SUCH A SEVERE AND STRANGE AND HORRIBLE CRIME.
AND MY POINT IN SHARING THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S ONE THING I THOUGHT OF WHEN I WAS IN WHAT WE CALL THE CHAIN OF LAKES AREA, WHICH SHADOW CLIFFS IS A PART OF, IS WITH THESE CAMERAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THEM IN LOCATIONS WHERE WE DO SEE THIS FREQUENCY OF CRIMES, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WINDOW SMASHING CAR, BUR BURGLARIES, THOSE TYPE OF CRIMES.
BUT THEN ALSO IN SOME OF OUR MORE, UM, REMOTE OR LESS FREQUENT AREAS, THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY COULD ALSO BE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE IS THAT CHANCE THAT SOME SORT OF SEVERE CRIME COULD HAPPEN IN A REMOTE AREA.
AND SO MAYBE WE MIGHT NOT, UH, HAVE A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY IN TERMS OF FREQUENCY FOR A YEAR OR TWO, BUT MAYBE IN THAT YEAR THREE, IF SOMEONE DECIDES, AND I, I HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THERE'S ALWAYS THAT POSSIBILITY.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY IN A MORE OMA REMOTE AREA BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT KIND OF CRIME SOMEONE'S GONNA COMMIT.
AND WHERE, I MEAN, TO ME, I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT CHOWCHILLA BUS BUS KIDNAPPING HAPPENED.
IT, IT BASICALLY IN MY BACKYARD.
AND, UM, AND I, I OBVIOUSLY HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN, BUT I THINK FOR US AS AN AGENCY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO THINK ABOUT THESE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY TECHNOLOGIES AND THE RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES IN TERMS OF HOW IT COULD HELP US SOLVE, UM, ALL THESE DIFFERENT CRIMES.
UM, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? WE HAVE? YES.
THIS IS LISA GORGEN, UM, ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER OF OPERATIONS.
I, I DID WANNA COMMEND, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY ON THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
I BELIEVE IT'S A TWO YEAR, UM, PROGRAM.
AND SO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY ARE ONES THAT, UM, OPERATIONS AND, AND PUBLIC SAFETY CAN WORK ON TO, TO SEE HOW WE CAN, UM, TRY TO ADDRESS THEM.
DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THOUGH? YOU CAN, WELL, I'M GONNA ALSO MAKE SURE, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
YOU MAY HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS.
I THINK THAT THAT ENDS THIS INFORMATIONAL ITEM SO MUCH.
UM, SO NOW WE'RE ON TO THE ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH, PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
ARE THERE ANY, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO MAKE FIRST? NO.
UM, UH, I GUESS THEN IF THERE, ARE THERE ANY STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY, WELL THEN THE MEETING ISN'T ADJOURNED.