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          ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, 
          [Roll Call]
EVERYONE. I CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT FOR SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026. THE MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 10:31 A.M. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE ROLL CALL. 
          THANK YOU. DIRECTOR COFFEY? HERE. 
          DIRECTOR MERCURIO? HERE. 
          CHAIR SANWONG? HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, GREAT. AND BEFORE WE MOVE ON IN THE AGENDA, I DO WANT TO MAKE AN AGENDA AMENDMENT. 
          WE ARE GOING TO SWITCH ITEMS 4 AND 5, SO WE WILL START WITH OUR INFORMATIONAL ITEMS, AGENDA NUMBER 5, AND THEN MOVE INTO THE ACTION ITEMS 4, AS OUR AGENDA TODAY. AND SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE THIS CHANGE TO THE AGENDA. DO I HAVE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR COFFEY, FOR SECONDING. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. OKAY, ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 2, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, WHICH THERE ARE NONE, SO THEN WE MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 3, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON 
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TO ITEM, WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA AS ITEM 5, INFORMATIONAL ITEMS: DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT RESTORATION PROJECTS UNIT UPDATE. GOOD MORNING, EXECUTIVE BOARD COMMITTEE. 
          UM, REN BATES, DIVISION LEAD OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. I'M GOING TO DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION, UM, JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT AND A REMINDER. WHEN CHRIS WYCKOFF, OUR AGM OF FINANCE OR FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SORRY, IT'S A NEW NAME I'M GETTING USED TO IT MYSELF. PRESENTED LAST MONTH TO YOU ALL, HE MENTIONED THAT WE WERE GOING TO START A NEW PRACTICE. WE'VE HEARD THAT THE BOARD SOMETIMES IS NOT ALWAYS UP TO SPEED ON OUR PROJECTS AND WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE THOSE ARE, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GIVING UP UPDATES IS SOMETIMES WHEN WE ONLY COME TO THE BOARD FOR ACTIONS, AND AS WE'VE BEEN MOVING SOME OF OUR ACTIONS AND FUNDING INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE, IT EVEN MAKES A LITTLE BIT LESS TIME FOR THAT. SO IN TERMS OF INFORMING THE BOARD AND KEEPING EVERYBODY UPDATED ON WHERE WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR DIFFERENT UNITS IN THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COME ON A MONTHLY BASIS, SO THEY'LL BE ROTATING AND GIVE PRESENTATIONS. SO THE FIRST ROUND HERE IS GOING TO BE OUR RESTORATION PROJECTS UNIT, AND CHRIS BARTON, OUR RESTORATION UNIT PROJECTS UNIT MANAGER, WILL GIVE THE PRESENTATION, AND IT'LL BE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THEIR HIS TEAM IS WORKING ON. AND AGAIN, SO HE WILL COME BACK AGAIN IN 4 MONTHS' TIME, SO THAT THIS IS PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU GUYS TO HEAR WHERE WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT, YOU CAN REACH OUT AND WE CAN TAILOR THESE PRESENTATIONS, BUT I THINK IT BENEFITS US ALL TO JUST SORT OF GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT PROJECTS ARE ACTIVELY BEING WORKED ON CURRENTLY. OUR PROJECT BOOK IS BIG. YOU'RE ALL COGNIZANT OF THAT AND SO THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM STAFF WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE WORKING ON DAY TO DAY. 
          SO, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 
          OTHERWISE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHRIS, AND HE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT ALL THE PROJECTS THAT HIS TEAM IS WORKING ON. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANKS. 
          THANKS, REN. THANK YOU, REN. 
          PRESIDENT SANWONG, BOARD EXEC MEMBERS: CHRIS BARTON, RESTORATION PROJECTS MANAGER. 
          I'LL GO OVER THE, OVERVIEW. I HAVE A SLIDESHOW THAT GOES OVER OUR WORK PROGRAM, FOR MY UNIT. SO, LOOKING AT OUR UNIT, WE HAVE 3 STAFF. 
          WE HAVE, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY HERE, SO YOU GUYS CAN WAVE IF YOU CHOOSE TO. WE'VE GOT, JEFF LEMIRE, OUR PROJECT COORDINATOR, KARLA MEYERS, OUR PROJECT MANAGER, AND MAC OLSEN, CIVIL ENGINEER, AND I AM THE RESTORATION PROJECTS MANAGER. AND, I THINK WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE THIS TEAM. THEY HAVE A BROAD RANGE OF SKILL SET, RANGING FROM PLANNING, PUBLIC OUTREACH, TO HARD ENGINEERING, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, HYDROLOGY, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT TEAM. 
          BIOLOGY EVEN, WE EVEN HAVE BIOLOGY EXPERTISE ON THE TEAM. SO, IT FITS WELL WITH OUR SCOPE. 
          SO WHERE WE FIT WITHIN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IS, WE DELIVER CAPITAL PROJECTS, BUT WE DO HAVE A FOCUS MORE ON RESTORATION, WITH THE PUBLIC ACCESS, UH, COMPONENT. UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, WE DO, UH, WORK ON VERY LARGE AND VERY SMALL PROJECTS. SO I'LL GO OVER. UM, AT A GLANCE, JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 4 PROJECTS THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, UM, OR THEY'RE EITHER IN CONSTRUCTION OR THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO BE IN CONSTRUCTION SOON. UM, THE NEXT IS DESIGN AND PERMIT PHASE, AND THIS IS THE PHASE, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S REFERRED TO AS DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND PERMITTING, AND THIS IS TYPICALLY THE PHASE 
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WHERE, UH, THE BOARD HAS MADE A DECISION TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT, UM, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING INTO VERY DETAILED DOCUMENTS, AND, UM, IT IS, IT DOES TEND TO BE A VERY INTENSIVE, UH, PROCESS, AND WHAT COMES OUT OF IT ARE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, AND PERMITS THAT AUTHORIZE US TO TAKE ACTUAL ACTION ON A PROJECT. UM, TEMESCAL IS THE ONE PROJECT WE HAVE IN PRELIMINARY DESIGN, AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A STUDY STAGE WHERE THERE'S—WE'RE STILL FORMING WHAT THE PROJECT IS, AND, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO DECISION YET TO PROCEED, BUT IT GIVES US A HANDLE OF WHAT THE SCOPE IS, COST, UH, SO WE COULD LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY. UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN CLOSEOUT, UM, AND MOVING ON, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS WE DO. WE DO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS. UM, OUR STAFF PROVIDES SUPPORT TO THE STEWARDSHIP PONDS PROGRAM, AND ALSO SOME HYDRAULIC MODELING SUPPORT TO, UH, TRAILS, CREEKS, AND PONDS, AND, UH, THE FEMA STORM DAMAGE PROJECTS, UH, ON THE IMPLEMENTATION SIDE. 
          WE'VE BEEN ASSISTING WITH THAT PART, AND, UH, POST-CONSTRUCTION PERMIT COMPLIANCE. UH, A BIG COMPONENT, ESPECIALLY FOR THESE LARGER PROJECTS, IS, UH, THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT ARE TIED TO PERMITS. AND THIS ISN'T JUST, UH, WRITING REPORTS ABOUT HOW WELL THINGS ARE GOING, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY STEPS ON THE GROUND WHERE, UH, THERE MAY COULD BE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS. UM, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF TIMES, UH, YOU MAY SEE IN YOUR BOARD, UH, SOME OF THE BOARD ITEMS, VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, VEGETATION ESTABLISHMENT. A LOT OF TIMES THE, UH, VEGETATION COVER IS WHAT'S LINKED TO SOME OF THE CRITERIA FOR SUCCESS. 
          UM, SO OUR, OUR UNIT, UH, DOES OVERSEE THAT FOR OUR PROJECTS. UM, AND THEN MOVING ON TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE WORK ON: WE DO COLLABORATE WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, UH, AND PARTICIPATE IN SOME, UH, SOME EFFORTS THAT FOR THE PARK DISTRICT. AND GOING THROUGH THE LIST QUICKLY, REGIONALLY ADAPTING TO LIVING SHORELINES, UH, AS A LANDOWNER PARTICIPANT, HASPA, UH, WE'RE MEMBERS OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY JOINT VENTURE, AND THAT'S A, UH, KIND OF A CONSORTIUM OF, UH, RESTORATION, UH, BASICALLY AGENTS THAT ARE, UH, AGENCIES THAT ARE WORKING ON RESTORATION PROJECTS THAT ARE ADVOCATING FOR FEDERAL FUNDING. THAT'S WHAT THE JOINT VENTURE IS. 
          AND, UH, THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY RESTORATION AUTHORITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO I'LL TRY AND GO THROUGH OUR WORK PROGRAM, AND IF, UH, IF IT'S OKAY IF WE MAYBE TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END, UM, OKAY. SO STARTING WITH BROOK ROAD, THIS PROJECT IS CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION, AND THE PROJECT INVOLVES REMOVING A CONCRETE FORD THAT CROSSES, UH, OVER WILDCAT CREEK, WHICH IS A FISH BARRIER. SO THE PROJECT IS GOING TO, UH, INCREASE CONNECTIVITY FOR FISH IN WILDCAT CREEK, AND WE'LL ALSO BE RESTORING THE CREEK WHILE WE'RE IN THERE, AND THERE WILL BE A NEW BRIDGE THAT'S CONSTRUCTED TO KEEP THE PUBLIC, UH, A- OUT OF THE CREEK, UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY'LL HAVE A BETTER VIEW OF THE CREEK FROM ABOVE, AND IT'LL BE ACCESSIBLE. SO THERE ARE TWO ACCESSIBLE PARKING STALLS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE, THESE NEW BRIDGES. OH, AND I'LL ADD THAT PROJECT'S SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, THE CONSTRUCTION. UH, BIG BEAR, BIG BEAR LOOP. SO THESE NEXT TWO PROJECTS ARE ESSENTIALLY STORM DAMAGE REPAIRS, UH, CULVERTS. UM, WHEN THERE'S A BLOWN OUT CULVERT, THAT USUALLY MEANS THERE'S A TRAIL THAT WE LOST OR THERE'S A TRAIL AT RISK. 
          IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOST TRAILS WITH BOOTLEG AREAS AROUND THEM. THESE ARE BOTH JOC PROJECTS. SO ONE IS AT ANTHONY CHABOT REGIONAL PARK, UH, GOLDEN SPIKE. THIS ONE'S AT REDWOOD REGIONAL PARK. UM, HAYWARD MARSH RESTORATION. 
          UH, THIS PROJECT WAS BROUGHT TO THE FULL BOARD FOR A PRESENTATION BACK IN APRIL. UH, AND SINCE THAT TIME IN APRIL, WE'VE BROUGHT IT, UM, BACK TO THE BOARD BECAUSE WE HAD GONE OUT TO BID FOR THE PROJECT, AND THE BIDS CAME BACK TOO HIGH. SO WHEN WE WERE OUT AT CAMP ARROYO, UM, STAFF, UM, HAD AN ITEM THERE TO, UM, BASICALLY REJECT ALL BIDS BECAUSE WE DID NOT NOT HAVE THE BUDGET TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT. SO THE PROJECT'S STILL IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. 
          UH, WE'RE GOING TO BID IT AGAIN. UM, AND IN A NUTSHELL, FOR THOSE THAT HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THE HAYWARD MARSH RESTORATION PROJECT, THE, THE AREA IS A FORMER WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY. UM, IT NO 
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LONGER FUNCTIONS: STAGNANT WATER, WATER QUALITY ISSUES. 
          THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO RESTORE, UM, HABITAT, WETLANDS, AND THEN ALSO TO HELP THE, UH, SPECIAL-STATUS SPECIES OUT THERE, IN PARTICULAR THE, UH, LEAST TERN, WHERE WE HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL LEAST TERN COLONY OUT THERE, TO EXPAND ON THAT COLONY AND THEN ALSO HELP THEM IN THE LONG TERM, UH, WITH HIGHER WATER LEVELS, THEY'LL HAVE NEW, NEW PLACES TO GO WITH THIS PROJECT. UH, DEER VALLEY PUBLIC ACCESS, UH, THIS PROJECT WENT TO THE BOARD, UM, I THINK BACK WHEN WE WERE AT BIG BREAK, UH, TO HIRE A, UH, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER. THAT'S THE LAST TIME THE BOARD SAW THIS ITEM, BUT THIS IS MOSTLY A PUBLIC ACCESS PROJECT, IS A PARTNERSHIP PROJECT WITH THE ATP, WHO WILL BE PROVIDING THE FUNDING. UM, IT'S A FULL-FEATURED PUBLIC ACCESS PROJECT WITH STAGING, UH, RESTROOMS, INTERPRETIVE PAVILION, TRAILS, UH, AND SOME RESTORATION, REMOVAL OF SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOLF COURSE. AND THIS PROJECT WE PLAN ON BRINGING TO THE FULL BOARD FOR AN UPDATE IN NOVEMBER, UM, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON FINALIZING CITY PERMITS, UH, FINISHING THE BID PACKAGE, AND WE HOPE TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR. 
          THAT'S OUR TARGET. WILDCAT CREEK BANK STABILIZATION. THIS IS JUST DOWNSTREAM OF THE JEWEL LAKE DAM. THIS IS AN AREA THAT, UM, IT CAME IN AS A WORK REQUEST, AND STAFF HAD BEEN MONITORING FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND THE 2023 STORM, UH, THAT CAME THROUGH, UH, DAMAGED. WE WERE WATCHING IT, AND IT GOT A LOT WORSE AFTER 2023. SO WE, THERE, THERE IS NEED FOR INTERVENTION THERE SO WE DON'T LOSE WILDCAT CREEK, UM, THAT THE TRAIL THAT ACCESSES THAT, THAT RUNS RIGHT ALONG JEWEL LAKE THERE. AND IT'S A TWO-PHASE PROJECT, UH, BECAUSE THE BANK STABILIZATION THAT'S NEEDED IS, UH, PERMIT-INTENSIVE. THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, UM, SO THAT THAT'LL BE THE SECOND PHASE WHERE WE ACTUALLY REPAIR THE BANK AND DO SOME CREEK RESTORATION. THE FIRST PHASE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO, WE SHOULD BE TAKING CARE OF NOW BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIALLY REDIRECTING THESE HIGH FLOWS WHEN WE GET THESE BIG STORM EVENTS SO THAT THE WATER DOESN'T BLAST ONTO THE, THE BANK, UH, OF WILDCAT CREEK. 
          POINT ISABEL PUBLIC ACCESS AND RESTORATION PROJECT. UH, THIS PROJECT WENT TO THE BOARD BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS MARCH FOR THE INITIAL STUDY MND, UH, REVIEW. THAT'S THE LAST TIME THE BOARD SAW, UH, WAS PRESENTED TO THE FULL BOARD. UM, THIS PROJECT IS, UH, TO FULFILL SOME OF OUR OBLIGATIONS FOR THE, THE LANDFILL CAP. THAT'S—IT'S NOT LANDFILL CAP, EXCUSE ME. 
          IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S A CLOSURE AREA WHERE WE HAVE A CAP, AND IT'S TO ADDRESS EROSION. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO SOME PUBLIC ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNED FOR SEA LEVEL RISE RESILIENCE AND PLANTING AND FENCING. AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON COMPLETING THE DESIGN AND THE PERMIT AUTHORIZATIONS. UH, THIS ONE WE'RE ALSO TARGETING FOR CONSTRUCTION IN 2027. THE FORMER GUN CLUB, UM, THIS ONE WAS BROUGHT TO THE FULL BOARD FOR A PRESENTATION BACK IN APRIL, AND MOST RECENTLY THE BOARD TOUR, WE WERE OUT THERE, UH, TAKING A LOOK AT THE GUN CLUB. UH, THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE PROJECT IS TO MAKE THE SITE SAFE, SO, UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE HAZARDS OUT THERE, UH, SOME OF THE LEAD CONTAMINATION. AND W- WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS ITEM BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE HERE ONCE WE HAVE THE REMEDIAL DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AT LEAST A DRAFT OF THAT, SO WE CAN SHARE IT WITH THIS COMMITTEE, UH, BEFORE WE ADVANCE IT, UM, INT- INTO, UH, FULL COMPLETION FOR THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN. 
          UH, WE'RE IN COORDINATION WITH THE REGIONAL BOARD ON THIS PROJECT. UH, THE SCOPE DOES INCLUDE COMPLETION OF CEQA AND THE PERMIT AUTHORIZATIONS. 
          THIS WAS ON, THIS ONE'S ON A TRAJECTORY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION IN 2028. UH, KNIGHTSEN WETLAND RESTORATION PROJECT. WAIT, DID I GET THESE BACKWARDS? ANYWAY, THIS IS THE HCP, UH, PROJECT. OH, NEVER MIND, I'VE GOT IT CONFUSED WITH, UH, WITH DEER VALLEY, UM, W- WHICH IT HAS THE SAME OBLIGATIONS AND CONSTRAINTS, UM, BUT DEER VALLEY, SO LET ME BACK UP. THEY'RE BOTH HCP PROJECTS, 
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THAT'S WHY I'M GETTING CONFUSED IN THE ORDER HERE. BUT THE KNIGHTSEN, KNIGHTSEN WETLAND RESTORATION PROJECT IS A PIER RESTORATION PROJECT. THERE'S NO PUBLIC ACCESS THAT'S BUILT INTO IT. IT COULD BE ADDED LATER, UM, BUT IT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE OUT THERE AND TO IMPROVE HABITAT FOR THE COVERED SPECIES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE NATURAL COMMUNITIES CONSERVATION PLAN, THE NCCP/HCP, AND EAST CONTRA COSTA COUNTY, UH, WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM, AND THEY WILL BE COVERING, UM, ALL OF THE FUNDING FOR THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SHOULD CLARIFY, THAT THE, WHAT I SAID FOR DEER VALLEY, I, THE IT, THE HCP IS NOT FUNDING DEER VALLEY. I THINK I SAID THAT, SO I'M JUST CORRECTING THAT HERE. 
          UH, THE, THIS FUNDING FOR THE RESTORATION PROJECT, THIS IS FULLY BEING FUNDED, UH, BY THE HCP. APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, UH, GLITCH THERE. 
          UM, SO THIS LAST WENT TO THE BOARD. THERE'S A FULL PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM WHEN THE BOARD WAS OUT IN BIG BREAK IN JUNE, AND THAT'S WHERE A FUNDING AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED, AND, UH, DESIGN DEVELOPMENT'S UNDERWAY, AND THIS PROJECT'S ALSO SCHEDULED FOR CONSTRUCTION IN 2027. UM, OUT AT MARTINEZ SHORELINE, THERE'S, UH, THE DUCK POND, AND THERE'S A LOOP TRAIL THAT GOES AROUND THAT POND. THIS PROJECT ORIGINALLY CAME IN AS A WORK REQUEST TO ADDRESS WATER QUALITY, UH, AND THE WATER QUALITY ISSUES ARE RELATED TO THE CIRCULATION, UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, UH, OUR FOCUS ON CULVERT REPLACEMENT. UM, IF WE DON'T HAVE INTERVENTION OUT HERE, WE COULD LOSE THAT LOOP TRAIL OUT THERE, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY, KEY THINGS, UH, THAT THIS PROJECT WILL ADDRESS BY FIXING THESE CULVERTS. UM, WE LOOK TO COMPLETE THE BID PACKAGE THIS YEAR, UM, AND WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY PURSUING PERMITTING FOR IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IMPLEMENTATION FUNDING FOR IT AT THIS POINT. 
          IT'S SO THAT THIS, THIS PROJECT WILL BE READY TO GO WHENEVER THE BOARD, UM, IT IS READY TO PROCEED WITH, WITH THIS PROJECT, AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL PURSUE PERMITS FOR IT, BECAUSE PERMITS HAVE A SHELF LIFE. UH, LAKE TEMESCAL WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, UM, STAFF ALSO RECENTLY, UH, PRESENTED ON THIS TO AWARD A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT TO ASSIST STAFF WITH A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL WORK THAT'S NEEDED. UH, ESSENTIALLY, W- WITH THIS PROJECT, WE WANT TO MAKE THE WATER QUALITY MORE PREDICTABLE OUT THERE AND TO NOT HAVE CLOSURES SO THAT THERE, THERE CAN BE SWIMMING, FISHING, UH, AND JUST ENJOYMENT OF THE OPEN WATER RESOURCE OUT AT LAKE TEMESCAL. AND THERE'S ALSO A FUNDING FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS, UH, INCLUDED IN THIS SCOPE OF WORK, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE DESIGN FEASIBILITY, BUT WHAT CAN WE ACTUALLY, UH, OR POTENTIALLY AFFORD TO DO OUT HERE. SO THAT'S INCLUDED WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK. AND WHAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DESIGN. 
          WE PLAN ON, BEFORE WE GET TO COMPLETING A PRELIMINARY DESIGN, WE PLAN ON BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE BOARD, THIS COMMITTEE, UH, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT. AND WE'RE MOST LIKELY THAT'S GOING TO BE ON TARGET FOR MAYBE IN SECOND QUARTER NEXT YEAR, AND WE'RE HOPING TO WRAP UP THE WHOLE PROCESS BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR FOR LAKE TEMESCAL. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE SLIDE SLIDESHOW PORTION, UM, AND HAPPY TO, UH, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. THIS IS A REALLY GREAT OVERVIEW OF ALL THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE DOING. UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST QUICKLY SHARE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO IS VERY DIRECTLY ALIGNED WITH OUR MISSION HERE AT EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT, AND I, FOR ME PERSONALLY, A LOT OF, UM, THIS RESTRA- RESTORATION WORK, PARTICULARLY IN REGARDS TO PONDS AND WETLANDS, IS, YOU KNOW, MY ONE PART OF MY PERSONAL PASSION. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION TODAY AND GETTING THIS OVERVIEW OF ALL THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON. UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ASK MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ITEMS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT ON THIS, THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. GO AHEAD, DIRECTOR MERCURIO. 
          JUST ONE ABOUT THE MARTINEZ, SHORELINE LOOP TRAIL PROJECT. 
          IS THAT IT? IS THAT GOING TO INVOLVE RAISING THE TRAIL SOMEWHAT TO KEEP IT FROM BEING FLOODED AS IT IS FROM TIME TO TIME? NO, THAT, THAT'S NOT IN THE SCOPE TO, TO RAISE THE TRAIL. 
          OKAY, BUT SOMEHOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING WILL MAKE THE TRAIL MORE ACCESSIBLE DURING AIR TIMES WHEN IT IS REALLY WET OUT THERE? THE TRAIL DOESN'T CURRENTLY 
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FLOOD, AS FAR AS I KNOW. THE RISK THAT WE HAVE OF LOSING THE TRAIL IS JUST FROM THE CULVERT WHERE IT'S, IT'S HEAD CUTTING UP INTO THE TRAIL, SO WE SH- WE COULD END UP WITH A GAP, UH, IN THE TRAIL. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THE, TO THE EDGE OF TRAIL. 
          I CAN VISUALIZE THAT. OKAY, THANKS. COLIN. COLIN. 
          WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAIL THAT INTERSECTS WITH THE, UH, THE, THE TIDAL GATE IN THE POND. 
          CORRECT. THERE'S TWO TIDAL GATES OUT THERE. THERE'S ONE ON THE, UH, ON THE CARQUINEZ STRAIT SIDE, AND THEN THERE'S ONE THAT'S KIND OF INTERIOR THAT'S—THAT CONNECTS WITH THE MARSH. THE ONE THAT'S CONNECTING WITH THE MARSH IS MOST AT RISK. THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S MOST ERODED. 
          OKAY, WELL, THE, MY EXPERIENCE IS DURING THE WINTER, OR HIGH TIDES OR SOME COMBINATION, THAT THAT'S UNDERWATER A LOT, UM, AS, AS IS THE, THE TRAILS THAT, UM, MOSTLY ON THE CITY SIDE, BUT, UH, AS YOU PROGRESS TOWARD THE POND AND TRY TO GET AROUND THE POND, THAT'S UNDERWATER, UM, DURING THE WINTER. IT'S, IT'S NOT YOUR ISSUE. I'M JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT, UM, JOHN HAS SAID, AND I, THIS IS PROBABLY MORE FOR MAX AND THE BROADER PLANNING, UH, FOLKS HERE, BUT THOSE TRAILS, PARTICULARLY TOWARD THE SHORELINE, BUT THE, THE ONES GOING BACK TOWARD, UM, UH, THE PARK, THE BACK PARKING LOT, UH, THEY'RE UNDERWATER FREQUENTLY DURING THE WINTER. E- E- E- THIS IS A PLACE I GO AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK FOR MY AFTERNOON WALKS, AND IN THE WINTER, UM, IT'S LARGELY CUT OFF, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THOSE TRAILS. UH, AND I S- AND I, MAYBE WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, BUT WE'VE HAD THIS, UM, PROJECT FOR BIG BREAK AND PLANNING FOR RESILIENCY AT, AT BIG BREAK AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH, UM, SEA RISE, AND I REALLY THINK WE NEED THAT KIND OF PLANNING PROCESS, UH, UNDERTAKEN AT, UM, MARTINEZ SHORELINE. UM, BUT WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION. I'M JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF JOHN'S RAISING THE ISSUE TO, TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE OF MINE THAT ISN'T YOURS. W- UM, WHAT'S OUR ROLE AT KNIGHTSEN? THAT'S A HCP PRO- PROJECT, AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT. UM, ARE YOU FOLKS IN- IN THE PLANNING PROCESS WITH ABBY, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE OVERSIGHT OF THE CONSTRUCTION? WHAT'S OUR ROLE? YEAH, I CAN SHARE MAYBE. I, SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, ABBY'S OUR PARTNER WITH THE HCP, BUT HER TEAM'S PRETTY LIMITED. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS OR FOLKS THAT WOULD TYPICALLY IMPLEMENT PROJECTS. 
          AND SO, UM, WHAT HAD BEEN HONESTLY SORT OF DISCUSSED BEFORE I JOINED THE DISTRICT WAS THAT THEY WOULD BE THE LEAD FOR FUNDRAISING FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, AND THEY WOULD LEAD THE PLANNING PIECES OF IT. BUT WHEN IT GOT TO LIKE ACTUAL DESIGN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTING OUT AND PROJECT MANAGING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RESTORATION COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT THAT WE WOULD TAKE THAT ON. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THE HCP DOESN'T HAVE THAT CAPACITY. 
          THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. 
          YES. 
          I, I DO THINK, THOUGH, THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH ABBY ABOUT IS, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A COMPONENT OF THE HCP WORK INTO THE FUTURE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO BUILD THAT ON THEIR TEAM SO THAT THEY CAN SORT OF LEAD SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A NEXUS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE TYPICAL WORK OF THE DISTRICT. SO I THINK IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT FOR NOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE CHRIS AND THIS WHOLE TEAM STEPPING UP TO HELP WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT COST ALLOCATIONS FOR THESE PROJECTS. WHAT? I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE, WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS JUST LIKE, WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF STAFF CAPACITY TO MANAGE PROJECTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT, PERIOD, EVEN THOUGH THE HCP COVERS THE COST OF THE ACTUAL CONTRACT ITSELF. 
          FOR OUR TEAM, MY GOAL IS FOR YOUR BOARD TO GET TO SORT OF LIKE DRIVE WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AND NOT HAVE LIKE AN EXTERNAL PARTNER COME 
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WITH SOMETHING THAT TAKES A HUGE AMOUNT OF CAPACITY FROM OUR TEAM. UM. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY, WE ARE GOING TO BE MANAGING AND OPERATING THIS LAND RIGHT. 
          AS PART OF OUR PARKLANDS. 
          IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE DISTRICT. 
          SO IT IS A BENEFIT. 
          100%, 100%. YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND OUR, IN TURN, OUR CONTRIBUTIONS OF STAFF AND, UH, IN OVERSIGHT OF CONSTRUCTION. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? HAYWARD MARSH, UM... THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE I- IN, IN PHASES, RI- CORRECT? SO YOU'RE WORKING ON PHASE, WHAT, 1 NOW, AND... 
          CORRECT. UM, FA- WE'RE CALLING IT PHASE 1A, AND THAT, THAT PHASE 1A IS WHAT WE RECENTLY PUT OUT TO BID, AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS INTO THE SITE, SO WE COULD USE IT FOR TRUCKS TO BRING THE BALANCE OF FILL THAT WE NEED INTO THE CENTER OF THE SITE. 
          AND THIS SAME CONSTRUCTION ACCESS WILL ULTIMATELY BE THE LARGE LEVEE THAT WOULD BE BUILDING OUT THERE, SO WE WOULDN'T BE BUILDING THE LEVEE ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP. 
          IN THE, IN THE NEAR TERM, IT WOULD JUST BE USED AS A HAUL ROUTE, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, IN ONE OF THE, THE VERY LAST PHASE, WE WILL BUILD THAT LEVEE OUT TO THE TOP. SO IT'S, IT'S A PORTION OF THE FUTURE PHASE, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS ACCESS INTO THE SITE WITH THIS FIRST PHASE. 
          I GOT IT. AND YOU HAD A 45-MILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT. IS THAT THIS—THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE PROJECT? THAT IS THE, THE CURRENT ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, UM, FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT. 
          PROJECT, OKAY. NOT, NOT JUST ONE OF THESE PHASES. BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS GOING TO BE, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF YEARS OVER WHICH WE DO THIS, AND A CONSTANT SOURCE, UH, FOR FUNDRAISING. OKAY. 
          BUT WE'VE RAISED THE FUNDS FOR THIS PHASE. 
          CORRECT. SINCE THE, UH, THE LAST, WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS TO THE BOARD AND THE W- TO REJECT THE BIDS, WE, WE'VE RECEIVED ANOTHER GRANT, I THINK, FOR 5 MILLION FROM EPA. SO W- WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY ON FUNDING FOR THIS FIRST PHASE, UH, 1A. 
          YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE A PROJECT THAT WE CAN ALL BE EXTRAORDINARILY PROUD OF IN, IN TERMS OF RESTORING HABITAT, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE FOCUS ON HABITAT IN THIS PROJECT IS, UH, UH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BEING PROUD OF THAT KIND OF WORK. I AM TOO, AND, UM, I, UM, I'M, I'M PLEASED WITH OUR ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO START THIS PROJECT AND HOW COMPLICATED IT IS, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON IT. 
          YEAH, I'LL BUILD UPON THAT. I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT, BUT I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING OUR WORK, AND THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM FOR COMPLETING THE COYOTE HILLS PATTERSON RANCH RESTORATION PROJECT. I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLE WORK AND REALLY GIVES US A SENSE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR RECENT SUCCESS IN RESTORING HABITAT, AND WE CAN APPLY THAT ON ALL OF OUR OTHER, YOU KNOW, SHORELINE AND HABITAT RESTORATION PROJECTS, UM, LIKE HAYWARD MARSH AND, UH, HOPEFULLY SOON GOLDEN GATE FIELDS. SO WE- WE- WE'VE GOT A LOT ON THE HORIZON IN REGARDS TO, UM, SHORELINE WETLANDS RESTORATION, AND, AND I'LL SHARE, YOU KNOW, I- I MENTIONED THIS YESTERDAY AT THE, UM, REGIONAL PARKS FOUNDATION BOARD MEETING, HOW ON LABOR DAY A WEEK AGO, I SPENT MY TIME AT COYOTE HILLS AND ALSO AT U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE'S DON EDWARDS, WALKING ACROSS THE BRIDGE OVER THE DUMB- THE, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER THE DUMBARTON BRIDGE TOLL PLAZA, JUST TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE I WAS AT, WHILE I WAS WALKING THE TRAILS AT DON EDWARDS, I, I HAD THAT REALIZATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SHORELINE WETLANDS RESTORATION THAT WE'RE DOING AT DON EDWARDS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT HAYWARD MARSH AND WHAT WE ARE LIKELY TO DO WITH GOLDEN GATE FIELDS. AND IT IS A LOT OF WORK, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT WORK. AND AT DON EDWARDS, THERE IS A, UM, IT'S, IT'S STARTING TO BE A LITTLE BIT, UM, IT, IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED, BUT THERE'S THIS DUCK HUNT, AND IT, OR DUCK HUT, EXCUSE ME, DUCK HUT, AND IT, IT REMINDED ME OF ALL OF THE SOUTH BAY SALT POND RESTORATION WORK THAT DUCKS UNLIMITED IS DOING AS, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A LEADER IN REGARDS TO RESTORATION WORK. AND, UM, TH- TH- SINCE 2016, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN ALL OF THE SALT POND RESTORATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE SOUTH BAY PORTION OF SAN FRANCISCO BAY. AND SO I, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN SPENDING 
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TIME ON THE DUCKS UNLIMITED WEBSITE, AND I, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY WORKED WITH EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT, UM, ON HAYWARD SHORELINE AREA, EDEN LANDING AREA RESTORATION. AND, UM, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME PREVIOUS PROJECTS WITH THEM, BUT I THINK NOW MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO REESTABLISH THAT CONNECTION. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME NEWER PEOPLE HERE AT EAST BAY PARKS AND WITH OUR FOUNDATION, AND THEY MAY HAVE SOME NEWER PEOPLE AT, UM, DUCKS UNLIMITED, BUT I, I DID ALSO READ SOME OF THEIR, UM, DATA ON THEIR WEBSITE, AND THEY HAD A DATA POINT THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY PROFOUND, THAT CALIFORNIA HAS LOST 95% OF OUR HISTORIC WETLANDS. UM, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER, AND I KNOW FOR THE PAST, UM, 6 MONTHS I'VE BEEN WORKING A LOT WITH OUR GOVERNMENT AND LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS TEAM, AS WELL AS STEWARDSHIP, TO REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR GRASSLAND PONDS. 
          THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING WITH THE STEWARDSHIP TEAM ON GRASSLAND PONDS RESTORATION. 
          UM, IT MAY BE THAT MY HIGHLIGHT OF 2026 WAS GETTING TO GO ON A POND SURVEY AT SUNOL REGIONAL, WHERE I GOT TO PUT ON A PAIR OF WADERS AND LEARN HOW WE, YOU KNOW, HOW ST- OUR STEWARDSHIP TEAM LOOKS FOR, UM, PROTECTED SPECIES LIKE RED-LEGGED FROG. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY GRASSLAND PONDS RESTORATION IS SO IMPORTANT IS THAT WE HAVE LOST 95% OF THOSE HISTORIC WETLANDS. SO THERE ARE WETLANDS THAT MIGHT HAVE EXISTED IN HISTORY WHERE RED-LEGGED FROG, CALIFORNIA RED-LEGGED FROG, UM, HAD ITS HABITAT, AND NOW THAT IT DOESN'T, THESE GRASS GRASSLAND PONDS TEND TO BE WHERE WE NOW FIND OUR PROTECTED SPECIES. 
          UM, AND SO WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, INTERIOR GRASSLAND POND RESTORATION OR THINKING ABOUT INTERIOR WETLANDS, LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AT DEER VALLEY AND KNIGHTSEN, UM, OR IT'S THE SHORELINE TIDAL, UM, WETLAND RESTORATION, I THINK THE WORK THAT YOUR TEAM'S DOING IS SO IMPORTANT, AND, UM, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, BUT I DO THINK THAT MAYBE THINKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST, UM, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OR ORGANIZATIONS LIKE DUCKS UNLIMITED. I THINK THEY, THEY ANNOUNCED, UM, IN 2026 THEIR PARTNERSHIP WITH GOOGLE ON, UH, SHORELINE RESTORATION AT IN MOUNTAIN VIEW. AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE, AND SO THIS MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD WAY FOR US TO PARTNER WITH OUR REGIONAL PARKS FOUNDATION TO START, UM, LOOKING AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF RESTORATION PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO DO, AS YOU HIGHLIGHTED HERE, AND SO THERE'S GOING TO NEED TO BE SOME DIFFERENT FUNDING RESOURCES, I'M GUESSING. UM, SO THEN I, I ALSO APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THE FISH BARRIER. CERTAINLY, I'VE BEEN REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT US REMOVING A LOT OF THE FISH BARRIERS ALONG THE ALAMEDA CREEK IN, UM, IN SOUTHERN ALAMEDA COUNTY, AND I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AT THIS TIME, UH, THROUGH THE DISTRICT PLAN PROCESS, WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM ALAMEDA CREEK ALLIANCE, AND THEY PROPOSED SOMETHING PRETTY, UH, BOLD IN REGARDS TO INTRODUCING BEAVERS INTO SINBAD CANYON AND SINBAD CREEK IN PLEASANTON RIDGE. AND SO I WOULD BE CURIOUS, AND I KNOW THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP IDEA WITH STEWARDSHIP, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE INVOLVED, YOUR TEAM WOULD BE INVOLVED JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE REINTRODUCTION OF A SPECIES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN HELP IN TERMS OF, CAN POTENTIALLY HELP, WE'LL SAY, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, CREEK STABILIZATION AND CREEK HEALTH AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO, I THINK, SOME OF THE WORK YOU'RE DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, ALONG WILDCAT CREEK, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MIGHT THE INTRODUCTION OF A SPECIES LIKE BEAVERS HELP OR NOT HELP, UH, COULD BE AN INTERESTING PROPOSAL TO CONSIDER. UM, AND THEN I GUESS I ALSO HAVE A NOTE JUST TO REALLY ALSO BE, UM, GRATEFUL TO, UH, SENATOR, UH, MCNERNEY AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER WILSON FOR ENSURING, UM, FUNDING FOR $400,000, UM, IN THE MOST RECENT, UH, STATE, CALIFORNIA STATE BUDGET IN REGARDS TO GRASSLAND PONDS RESTORATION. 
          SO I ANTICIPATE YOUR TEAM WILL PROBABLY BE, UH, HELPING TO PARTNER, UM, ON SOME OF THAT WORK, SO THAT'S ALSO VERY EXCITING. 
          UM... AND THEN I JUST HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION ON NORTH BASIN. SO I SEE THAT NORTH BASIN, THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WAS CLOSED OUT, AND I DO REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THAT AS A, AT A BOARD MEETING. UM, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, AND I KNOW IT'S TOUGH TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PREDICT THE FUTURE AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO PLAY OUT, BUT WHERE, WHERE DO WE STAND IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT NORTH BASIN BECOMING A PROJECT, OR MIGHT THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COMBINE WITH, POTENTIALLY COMBINE WITH GOLDEN GATE FIELDS? I KNOW WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, THAT ACQUISITION. 
          YEAH, THANKS, DIRECTOR SANWONG. I'D, I'D JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHRIS, WHO'S NOT HERE ANYMORE, BUT OUR, I MEAN, THIS WHOLE TEAM IS, UH, WORKING ON, UM, IS LIKE UNDERSTANDING AND TAKING THE, THE FEEDBACK FROM YOUR BOARD AT OUR WORKSHOPS, UM, THIS LAST YEAR AROUND CAPITAL PROJECT PRIORITIZATION, AND, 
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UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, CHRIS AND AMY AND SOME OF OUR LEADERSHIP ARE, ARE IN THESE FOLKS ARE ALREADY SORT OF WORKING ON, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE UPDATE THAT? OBVIOUSLY, THIS YEAR IS WE HAVE VERY LIMITED FUNDING FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND FORTUNATELY WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE KEEPING OUR TEAM VERY BUSY. UM, SO WE'RE STILL DOING GOOD STUFF, BUT I THINK WHETHER IT'S, UM, THE PLANS FOR MARTINEZ, UH, THE TRAILS IN MARTINEZ MARSH THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED, THE NORTH BASIN STRIP PLANNING, THE PLANNING THAT WENT INTO, UM, BIG BREAK ADAPTATION, THERE'S MANY PROJECTS THAT HAVE POTENTIAL PLANS, UM, THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT, UH, IF WE PUT FUNDING TOWARDS IT. 
          SO WE REALLY WANT TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUR BOARD TO DIRECT FUNDING STRATEGICALLY TO SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          YEAH, AND THE REASON I MENTIONED THE CONNECTION TO GOLDEN GATE FIELDS, I, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH BASIN PROJECT, THERE'S ONE CREEK THAT CURRENTLY, UM, I THINK IT'S IN A CULVERT THAT GOES OUT AT THE NORTH BASIN PROPERTY, BUT HISTORICALLY THAT WATERWAY ACTUALLY, THE OUTLET HAD HISTORICALLY BEEN AT, AT GOLDEN GATE FIELDS. WE CAN GO BACK AND DOUBLE-CHECK. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I DO REMEMBER HEARING THAT. 
          Y- YEAH, THAT'S SCHOOLHOUSE CREEK, AND IF YOU WERE TO TRACE AND LOOK AT VERY, VERY OLD MAPS, IT, IT DID HEAD NORTH. UM, IT DID NOT COME STRAIGHT OUT AT VIRGINIA STREET AS IT DOES, UH, TODAY. UM, BUT BASED ON WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE FEASIBILITY PROCESS, UH, IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND PROBLEMATIC TO DAYLIGHT, TO, TO TRY TO RECREATE THAT. UM, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN FINDINGS FROM THE STUDY, WAS DAYLIGHTING THE CREEK, UM, BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION OF THE WATER, UM, IT WOULDN'T REALLY BE DAYLIGHTING THE CREEK; IT WOULD BE REALLY EXPANDING THE BAY, UH, AND CONNECTING IT WITH THE BAY BECAUSE THE BAY WATER IS SO HIGH, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. I DON'T KNOW. 
          NO, THAT DOES MAKE SENSE, AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO HEAR, UM, SO THANK YOU. SO SCHOOLHOUSE CREEK. ALL RIGHT, GREAT. 
          WELL, LET'S TAKE A MOMENT AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. 
          THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU. SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK. UM, THIS IS AN INFORMATION ITEM, SO WE DON'T HAVE, UM, A RESOLUTION OR A RECOMMENDATION, NOT RESOLUTION, A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO, TO, TO VOTE ON, BUT IF THERE'S ANY FINAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS... 
          GO AHEAD. 
          JUST VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR WORK, CHRIS, AS ALWAYS. I WAS FIRST INTRODUCED TO IT AT THE, UH, UH, BAY- BAY POINT, AT THE BAY POINT, UH, SHORELINE, AND THAT WAS A MASSIVE RESTORATION PROJECT OF THE, UM, MARSH, AND TODAY IT IS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS, AND THE, UH, THE, THE, THE TRAIL AROUND IT IS, IS WONDERFUL, AND, UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANT TO REFLECT ON THE YEARS I'VE WATCHED YOUR WORK AND HOW APPRECIATIVE I AM OF IT AND ITS, UH, OUTCOMES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          SO NICE TO HAVE ALL OF YOU JOIN US, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE NEXT UPDATE. 
          OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT 
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ALONG. UM, SO NOW WE'RE GOING BACK TO WHAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, OUR ACTION ITEMS, AND IT'S A DISCUSSION OF THE 2027 BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING CALENDAR. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. KELLY CLANCY, CLERK OF THE BOARD. I AM GOING TO PRESENT FROM THE DAIS. THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE KIND OF A LENGTHY DISCUSSION. I'M SURE YOU READ THE STAFF REPORT AND SAW INSIDE ALL OF THE DETAILS THAT I'VE TRIED TO PUT TOGETHER FOR THE 2027 BOARD COMMITTEE AND LIAISON MEETING CALENDAR. NO. NO. 
          PLEASE HOLD. TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. IT WAS WORKING EARLIER. 
          YEAH. THERE YOU GO. 
          OKAY, NOW IT WORKS. OKAY, SO I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE DRAFT CALENDAR. 
          WE'RE GOING TO WEIGH IN ON SOME OPEN ITEMS, AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE END IS TO FORWARD THE CALENDAR TO THE FULL BOARD WITH SOME AMENDMENTS. SO FIRSTLY, THE REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULE CHANGES. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, 
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AND THIS IS MY, UH, PROPOSITION, IS TO JUST BRIEFLY GO THROUGH SLIDE BY SLIDE, AND THEN AT THE END I WILL PUT UP THE CALENDAR STARTING IN JANUARY, AND WE CAN JUST GO BUN- MONTH BY MONTH, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND IT'S EASIER TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS THAT WAY, INSTEAD OF JUST THROWING A BUNCH OF INFORMATION AT YOU. SO IN JANUARY, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE SINGULAR, UH, REGULAR BOARD MEETING STYLE, HAVE ONE BOARD MEETING LIKE WE DID IN 2025. AND THEN IN AUGUST, THERE WAS A, UM, I HEARD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT SHIFTING THE BOARD MEETINGS BE TO ACCOMMODATE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, WHICH IS THE SAME DAY THAT WE HAVE A REGULAR BOARD MEETING. THERE'S A MOVE, UM, A REQUEST TO MOVE EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH, WHICH WILL GIVE STAFF TIME TO GET THEIR RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER TO TAKE TO THE NEXT IMMEDIATE BOARD MEETING. THEN THERE IS DISCUSSION TO HAVE OPERATIONS AND FINANCE COMMITTEES MOVE TO THE THIRD WEDNESDAY, AND THEN SWITCH. 
          CURRENTLY, WE HAVE OPERATIONS MEETS AT 10:30, OR WE HAVE FINANCE MEETS AT 10:30, AND OPERATIONS MEETS IN THE AFTERNOON. SO WE'RE PROPOSING THAT FINANCE MEETS AT 1:00 P.M. IN THE AFTERNOON BECAUSE THEY TYPICALLY HAVE A HEAVIER AGENDA, SO THEN IT'S MORE OF AN OPEN-ENDED ENDING, AND THEN OPERATIONS HAS THE 10:30 MEETING SLOT. MAY AND DECEMBER EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE SHIFT THOSE TO A THURSDAY TO ACCOMMODATE AN EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION LUNCH AND ALSO THE ANNUAL HOLIDAY LUNCH. 
          AND THE NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE CURRENTLY MEETS AT 2 P.M. DOES THAT TIME CURRENTLY WORK FOR EVERYBODY, OR DO WE WANT TO MOVE IT TO 1 P.M. FOR CONSISTENCY WITH OTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS? THERE IS SOME CONFERENCE AND ADVOCACY TRIP. THERE'S A CPRS CONFERENCE AND EXPO, WHICH HAPPENS IN MARCH IN SACRAMENTO, AND THAT OVERLAPS WITH THE MARCH 2ND BOARD MEETING. THERE'S A CALIFORNIA TRAILS AND GREENWAYS CONFERENCE IN APRIL, AND THAT OVERLAPS WITH AN APRIL BOARD MEETING AND ALSO THE OPERATIONS AND FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETINGS. WE ALSO HAVE HOLDS, PROVISIONAL HOLDS FOR, UM, ADVOCACY TRIPS PER GLA, ERICH PFUEHLER. THERE IS SACRAMENTO LEGISLATION LUNCHEON, SO THAT HAPPENS IN MARCH, AND SO WE'RE HOLDING THE SECOND AND FOURTH WEEKS OF MARCH. AND THEN IN MAY, FOR THE WASHINGTON, D.C. TRIP, WE'RE HOLDING THE SECOND AND FOURTH WEEKS. HOWEVER, BOTH OF THESE ARE PENDING CONGRESSIONAL FLOOR SCHEDULE AND ALSO THE STATE LEGISLATURE, WHAT THEY, WHEN THEY ADOPT THE SESSION CALENDAR IN DECEMBER. SO THOSE, THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH WE CAN DO WITH WHEN THOSE TRIPS ARE PLANNED. HOWEVER, WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH OUR BOARD MEETINGS DURING THAT TIME. THERE ARE SEVERAL OFF-SITE MEETINGS AND, UM, THE EVENING FORMAT TO DISCUSS. SO IN 2020, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN 2026. SO 2026, THERE'S TWO OFF-SITE BOARD MEETINGS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT PROPOSAL FOR 2027. WE WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE TARGET DATES FOR THOSE TO MAY AND OCTOBER SO WE COULD AVOID WEATHER ISSUES. 
          STAFF HAS ALSO REQUESTED, I'VE ALSO REQUESTED OF STAFF SOME SITE IDEAS FROM PARK UNIT SUPERVISORS TO SEE IF THERE'S OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WORK OTHER THAN BIG BREAK AND CAMP ARROYO. HOWEVER, BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS WERE VERY WELL RECEIVED BY, UH, BOARD MEMBERS AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. AND THEN, UM, I ALSO WELCOME COMMITTEE SUGGESTIONS FOR BOARD MEETING LOCATIONS. I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON EVENING MEETING FORMAT. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS EVENING MEETINGS, WHICH I KNOW CURRENTLY THE EVENING MEETING HAS BEEN IN DECEMBER TO ACCOMMODATE THE BUDGET. 
          HOWEVER, BASED ON HAVING PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW VIA ZOOM AND THE MEASURABLE UPTICK IN MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING VIA ZOOM, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK DECEMBER HAS TO BE OUR EVENING MEETING, AND I'M POTENTIALLY SUGGESTING THAT WE MAYBE HAVE AN EVENING MEETING IN APRIL OR AUGUST TO ACCOMMODATE RESIDENTS DRIVING IN DAYLIGHT HOURS INSTEAD OF REQUESTING RESIDENTS DRIVE TO OAKLAND AND DRIVE HOME AT A LATE EVENING MEETING TIME OR ADJOURNMENT TIME. THEN STAFF IS ALSO WORKING WITH PARTNERING AGENCIES TO WORK ON, UH, LIAISON COMMITTEE UPDATES. SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF OUR PARTNERING LIAISON AGENCIES, AND I'VE ASKED TO CREATE A SET SCHEDULE FOR LIAISON MEETINGS INSTEAD OF WE JUST HAVE THEM, WE KNOW WE MEET ANNUALLY, OR SOME OF THEM ARE BIANNUALLY OR QUARTERLY. SO INSTEAD OF TRYING AT THE LAST MINUTE TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULES TO FIND ACCOMMODATING TIMES, I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY OF FREMONT, AND WE'VE AGREED TO SET STANDING DATES FOR THE FOURTH THURSDAY OF FEBRUARY AND THE FIRST THURSDAY OF OCTOBER AS THE CITY OF FREMONT STANDING LIAISON TIMES. THEN THE CITY OF ALAMEDA, UM, THEIR ANNUAL 
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MEETING IS ANTICIPATED FOR EITHER MAY 6TH OR JUNE 7TH, 2027, PENDING, UM, CITY OF ALAMEDA, UM, APPROVAL. EAST BAY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT, THE ANNUAL MEETING WILL BE SET FOR THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2027, AT 1:30 P.M. THE REMAINING AGENCIES THAT I'M WAITING ON ARE HARD, LIVERMORE AREA REC AND PARK, CITY OF PLEASANTON, CITY OF RICHMOND, AND THOSE DATES ARE IN PROGRESS. THEY'RE WAITING PROBABLY ON FULL BOARD APPROVAL BEFORE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THOSE. THEN THE QUESTION FOR THE COMMITTEE IS REALLY, HAVE WE MISSED ANYTHING? THERE WAS, UM, SOME SPECIAL MEETING, STUDY SESSION, AND SITE TOUR FEEDBACK. THE FEEDBACK THAT I'M REQUESTING OF THE BOARD IS THE CADENCE AND THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS FOR 2027. WERE YOU HAPPY WITH THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS WE HAD THIS YEAR? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE A CHANGE? UH, THE OTHER FEEDBACK, AGAIN, IS THE AUGUST BOARD MEETING DATE, OFF-SITE MEETING LOCATIONS, EVENING MEETINGS, AND THEN THE NCRC MEETING TIME. 
          SO THEN THE NEXT STEPS IS I WILL GO THROUGH THE CALENDAR, AND WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH EACH ITEM AND HAVE A DISCUSSION AND MAKE NOTES. SO FOR JANUARY, YOU CAN SEE THAT I'VE PUT THE, UM, BOARD MEETING ON THE SECOND TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, BECAUSE THAT ACCOMMODATES KIND OF LIKE THE DECEMBER HOLIDAY WHERE THERE'S STAFF TIME OFF, PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES, AND THEN ALSO JANUARY HAS THE MLK HOLIDAY, SO IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO PUT THE MEETING ON THE SECOND TUESDAY SO IT DOESN'T COME AFTER A HOLIDAY. I'M OPEN TO COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS. IF YOU ALSO WANT TO GO BACK TO TWO MEETINGS IN JANUARY, THAT'S ALSO FINE WITH STAFF. 
          IT'S REALLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD AT THIS POINT. 
          SO WE'LL PAUSE HERE AND JUST TALK ABOUT YEP. 
          EVERYTHING. SO, I- I'VE NOTICED THAT IT- IT'S TOUGH TO PREDICT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LARGE AGENDA VERSUS A SMALL AGENDA. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT'S TOUGH TO KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN JANUARY, IN APRIL, IN AUGUST. UM, AND SO ONE THING, ONE WORKING THEORY I'VE HAD, AND WHETHER THIS APPLIES TO THE MONTH OF JANUARY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, IS IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO SCHEDULE MORE MEETINGS AND THEN CANCEL IF WE HAVE A LIGHT AGENDA OR IF IT HAPPENS TO BE SUMMERTIME. UM, AND SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IDEA OUT THERE AS WE GO THROUGH EACH MONTH, BUT, BUT THAT IS ONE THING I'VE NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE TRY TO HAVE ONLY ONE MEETING A MONTH IN, IN JANUARY, AND I SAW THAT THERE WAS A PROPOSAL IN AUGUST, WHAT HAPPENS IF THOSE HAPPEN TO BE THE MONTHS WHERE WE END UP HAVING THIS SUPER LONG AGENDA? SO IT IS NICE TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS SCHEDULED AND THEN CANCEL LATER IF IT'S A LIGHTER AGENDA VERSUS ONE A MONTH. SO, SO THAT'S JUST AN IDEA I WANT TO THROW OUT THERE FOR US AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS. UM, BUT OTHERWISE I WOULD ALSO BE OKAY WITH ONE MEETING BEING SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY AT THE SAME TIME. 
          YEAH, I THINK CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, JANUARY IS THE ONLY MEETING PROPOSED TO HAVE ONE MONTH. IN AUGUST, I'M JUST PROPOSING SWITCHING THE FIRST MONDAY TO THE SECOND MONDAY, SO WE WOULD MEET THE SECOND AND THIRD MONDAYS, STILL HAVING TWO MEETINGS. AND THEN, UM, THE GENERAL MANAGER KORTEN AND I ARE ALSO WORKING ON REALLY MAKING OUR MEETINGS MORE LEVEL. 
          INSTEAD OF PUTTING AS MANY ACTION ITEMS ON ONE MEETING AS POSSIBLE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT ON LIKE 4 OR 5, 5 REALLY BEING MAXIMUM IF WE HAVE TO. SO STAFF MEETS EVERY THURSDAY WITH EVERY, WITH, UM, ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY UPCOMING ITEMS, AND WE GO THROUGH A TRACKER, AND WE TRY AND SHIFT THINGS AS APPROPRIATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE BALANCED BOARD MEETINGS. 
          YEAH, IT'S REALLY, I MEAN, I'LL JUST BEHIND THE SCENES, KELLY'S BEEN DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH HER TEAM OF TRYING TO LIKE BASICALLY WHEN A, A BOARD MEETING STARTS TO SEEM REALLY FULL, THEN LIKE TRYING TO GET STAFF TO MOVE THINGS TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING OR PREVIOUS ONE, AND, AND IT'S A, IT'S ALWAYS A WORK IN PROGRESS BECAUSE THINGS JUST ORGANICALLY KIND OF SOMETIMES LUMP TOGETHER, BUT, UM, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST APPRECIATE KELLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WORKING ON THAT. 
          AND, AND I'LL SHARE, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF OUR STRUGGLES TOO HAS ALSO BEEN, UM, SCHEDULING CLOSED SESSIONS AND ALSO MANAGING CLOSED SESSIONS, AND PART OF IT IS THAT WE CAN'T ANTICIPATE WHAT WE NEED TO REVIEW DURING CLOSED SESSION. I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY THOUGHTS TO KEEP CLOSED SESSION A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN-ENDED, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT DOES HAVE A TIME CONSTRAINT WHERE WE WANT TO END SO THAT WE CAN START THE OPEN SESSION MEETING AS PUBLISHED AT 1 P.M. YOU KNOW, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE CLOSED SESSION AFTER OPEN SESSION ON BOARD MEETING DAYS? SO THEN, AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE EASIER, I THINK, FOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO HAVE, UM, COMMITMENTS OUTSIDE OF OUR BOARD DUTIES, UH, BECAUSE THAT GIVES YOU A WHOLE 
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HALF DAY TO DO OUTSIDE WORK. 
          AND SO THEN THE BOARD MEETING WOULD START AT 1, AND THEN WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THE END OF THAT. THAT, THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY VERY HELPFUL, UM, CONSIDERATION, BUT THEN THAT ALSO MIGHT HELP SOLVE SOME OF THE CLOSED SESSION, OR THE EARLIER IDEA I MENTIONED WHERE IF WE HAVE MORE MEETINGS ON THE CALENDAR AND THEN WE CANCEL IF WE DON'T HAVE A LARGE CLOSED SESSION AGENDA OR A LARGE AGENDA, IT GIVES US SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE THOSE DATES HELD, BECAUSE I, I HAVE SEEN US HAVE TO, UM, SCHEDULE SPECIAL EXTRA MEETINGS, UH, THIS YEAR, AND IT MIGHT JUST BE BETTER TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS ON THE CALENDAR AND CANCEL IF WE DON'T NEED THAT TIME. UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO FEBRUARY, DO EITHER OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO SHARE? NO, I REALLY LIKE THE JANUARY SETUP, BECAUSE YOU'VE GIVEN US 2 WEEKS TO CONSIDER A SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE TRIP. 
          I LIKE TO BE ACCOMMODATING. 
          YEAH. AS FIRST THEY CAME TO MY MIND AS I SAW 2 WEEKS FREE IN, UH, JANUARY. 
          I- I'M, I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE CLOSED SESSION, DIDN'T WE HAVE A THING WHERE WE SAID WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING AFTER THE MEETING, AND THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA, AND WE COULD USE IT OR NOT USE IT? I MEAN, COULD WE DO THAT EVERY TIME? AND THEN IF WE HAD TOO MUCH WORK TO DO, WE WOULD GO OVER, BUT, BUT MOST OF THE TIME WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T, BUT, YOU KNOW. 
          IT, IT'S WHATEVER YOUR BOARD WANTS TO DO; IT'S JUST THAT IT DOES CREATE SOME, YOU KNOW, STAFF DOESN'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE HERE IN THE EVENING. SO IT'S JUST A COORDINATION THING AND DEPENDING ON WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WANTS TO DO. 
          WELL, THEY WOULD KNOW THEY WOULD KNOW BEFORE 1 O'CLOCK IF THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE HERE. SO WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIKE CHILDCARE. 
          YEAH. 
          THINGS AND STUFF, IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL IF THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE THAT'S TRUE. 
          ATTENDING A YEAH. 
          AN EVENING MEETING. 
          OKAY. YEAH, I THINK LIKE IF YOUR BOARD, IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE THAT AS A STANDING THING, WE COULD KIND OF COME UP WITH AN ESTIMATE BEFOREHAND SO THAT WE, WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE PREP MEETING, UM, TO GIVE FOLKS A HEADS-UP. 
          SO KIND OF AN AS-NEEDED, WE, WE COULD KIND OF MAYBE ANTICIPATE IT MIGHT HAPPEN 3 OR 4 TIMES A YEAR OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WOULD DO THAT. 
          I, I ALSO THINK THAT WE JUST HAD AN EXTRAORDINARILY KIND OF BUSY YEAR, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR NORMAL PACE OF THE, THE TYPES OF TOPICS AND THE LENGTH OF TIME. SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, THAT WE WON'T REALLY HAVE THIS SAME ISSUE ARISE AGAIN. UM. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER TOPIC WHILE WE'RE ON JANUARY, YOU KNOW, HAVE WE, HOW, HOW HAVE WE, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE DONE TWO COMMITTEE MEETINGS IN THE SAME DAY, AND SO I SEE THAT THAT PROPOSAL IS CARRYING OVER TO 2027. I, I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA, AND I KNOW WHEN I FIRST STARTED ON THIS BOARD, WE HAD COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON FRIDAYS, AND ALSO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I THINK 2 P.M. FOR NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE, IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND I, AND I LIKE HAVING THE LATER AFTERNOON, UM, START TIMES, UH, BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN I CAN BE MORE AVAILABLE TO SERVE ON COMMITTEES. SO IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO ALSO JUST HAVE A BRIEF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE FEBRUARY MONTH. 
          YEAH, I C- I COULD, I COULD DO THAT. I WAS KIND OF WONDERING WHEN I WAS GOING TO MENTION THIS. I'LL MENTION IT RIGHT NOW. I WOULD REALLY, I REALLY THINK IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO HAVE A SEPARATE, COMPLETELY SEPARATE DAY JUST FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU SEE, UM, LIKE I'M ON 2 COMMITTEES THAT ARE TOGETHER WITH FINANCE AND OPERATIONS, AND THEN YOU HAD A BOARD MEETING BEFORE THAT. THAT'S 3 IN 2 DAYS. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO GET READY FOR THOSE MEETINGS, AND THEN IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO THE MEETINGS, AND, AND SO, UM, I WOULD REALLY STRONGLY, UM, APPRECIATE, UM, HAVING FINANCE STANDALONE ON A DIFFERENT, UM, YEAH, ON A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE. UM, YEAH, AG- AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE, TO THE BOARD MEETING AND THEN THE PREP TIME, UH, WITH FINANCE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE BUDGET SEASON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO THERE, AND, UM, I, I JUST DON'T REALLY THINK IT'S NECESSARY. I THINK IT'S BETTER NOT TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S MY WEIGH-IN ON, ON THAT TOPIC. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I'D SAY THE SAME ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. JUST BEING HERE TODAY AFTER YESTERDAY'S BOARD MEETING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING TO BE, YOU KNOW, PREPARED AND ALSO, LIKE, HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, ABILITY TO, TO THINK THROUGH EVERYTHING TODAY. AND THEN ALSO, I KNOW STARTING 2026, I HAD A LOT OF AMBITIOUS IDEAS ABOUT HOW 
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EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE COULD BE USED IN TERMS OF PREPARING FOR FUTURE BOARD MEETING AGENDAS AND HAVING DISCUSSION ABOUT ITEMS TO ADD TO BOARD MEETING AGENDAS OR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AGENDAS. I THINK ALSO WHEN AS I LOOK AT 2027, I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL BE, UM, AND I BELIEVE WE APPROVED THE FUNDING FOR THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES, AND MY PROPOSAL IS FOR THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO BE THE COMMITTEE THAT WORKS THROUGH SOME OF THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES OH YEAH. 
          DETAILS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT MIGHT BE A REALLY HEAVY 2027 FOR BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, POTENTIALLY. UM, CERTAINLY DIFFERENT THINGS CAN, UH, CHANGE IN THAT THIS IS JUST AN IDEA; IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DETERMINED, BUT, UM, I THINK SIMILAR TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT FINANCE COMMITTEE, I THINK EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, MM-HMM. 
          THIS COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW COULD ALSO HAVE THAT POTENTIAL. AND, AND THEN I KNOW THE 2 YEARS I WAS ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, UM, ESPECIALLY THE SECOND YEAR WHEN I WAS CHAIR WAS WHEN WE HAD THE LAS TRAMPAS STABLES, UM, TOPIC ON OUR AGENDA. AND IT WAS THE DAY AFTER A BOARD MEETING, AND WE HAD A ROOM FULL OF, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR LAS TRAMPAS STABLES, AND IT WAS JUST REALLY CHALLENGING TO DO THAT THE DAY AFTER A BOARD MEETING. SO, SO, SO MY POINT IS, IS THAT SOMETIMES THERE ALSO MAY BE TOPICS WHERE THERE COULD BE A LARGE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC COMMENT. I KNOW THAT'S TOUGH TO ANTICIPATE, BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO DO BACK TO BACK. 
          BUT I DO SEE THAT SOME OF THE MEETINGS HAVE MOVED TO THE THIRD WEDNESDAY INSTEAD OF THE SECOND WEDNESDAY, SO THAT MIGHT ALLEVIATE SOME OF THIS. 
          YES, SO FINANCE AND OPERATIONS WILL BE THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH, SO THAT WILL BE, IT DOESN'T COUNT IN JANUARY, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, FEBRUARY AS A BETTER FULL PICTURE BECAUSE IT HAS NATURAL CULTURAL RESOURCES, IT HAS ALL OF THE POTENTIAL MEETINGS PLUS STUDY SESSIONS. I WILL SAY FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, IT DOES HELP STAFF TO HAVE A F- LIKE THE FOURTH WEEK OF EVERY MONTH OPEN BECAUSE WE'RE SO BUSY DOING ALL OF THE AGENDA PACKETS AND STUFF THAT IT'S NICE FOR US TO HAVE ONE WEEK WITHOUT MEETINGS, ASIDE FROM NCRC, WHICH MEETS EVERY OTHER MONTH. 
          THAT IS MY ONLY KIND OF LIKE RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE. 
          I THINK, I MEAN, THE OTHER THING, AND I APPRECIATE, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE HERE TO JUST HEAR FROM YOU AND THEN CRAFT A RECOMMENDATION, EXACTLY. 
          YOU KNOW, TO THE FULL BOARD BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING. I THINK ONE OF THE GOALS, I THINK I HEARD FROM KELLY AROUND THE REASON TO PUT THE TWO MEETINGS TOGETHER IN A SINGLE DAY IS LIKE, I MEAN, I THINKING ABOUT LIKE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, LIKE THERE'S A MOBILIZATION COST EVERY TIME YOU'RE GOING OUT TO A SITE, AND SO THERE'S A MOBILIZATION COST WHEN WE'RE SETTING UP A MEETING, AND SO IF FOR OUR TEAM, IF THEY DO THAT AND LUMP TWO TOGETHER IN ONE DAY, THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SAVES TIME AND MONEY ON OUR, ON OUR END. 
          BUT I THINK THE OTHER, ON THE FLIP SIDE, WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE THOSE MEETINGS FOR YOUR BOARD, MM-HMM. 
          SO IF IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE, THEN WE, THEN IT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T MATTER, SO. 
          RIGHT, YEAH. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EFFECTIVE MEETINGS FOR YOU. 
          I WASN'T REAL ENTHUS- I WAS NOT ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT DOUBLING UP THESE MEETINGS GOING BACK LAST YEAR, AND NOW I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO EXPERIENCE IT, AND I HAVEN'T GAINED ANY ENTHUS- I HAVEN'T GAINED ANY ENTHUSIASM FOR IT. 
          IS THERE MAYBE ALSO ALTERNATIVELY, BECAUSE I KNOW EXECUTIVE IS A LARGE MEETING AND FINANCE IS A LARGE MEETING, SO THAT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE PUT OPS AND FINANCE AND EXECUTIVE AND LEG TOGETHER. 
          SO I DON'T, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST MAYBE SWAPPING HOW THEY MEET, BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO PUT EXECUTIVE AND FINANCE TOGETHER. 
          NO. 
          IS THERE A DIFFERENT BUT MAYBE LEGISLATIVE AND OPERATIONS COULD BE TOGETHER. 
          MM-HMM. 
          BUT THEN EXECUTIVE AND FINANCE WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN DAYS. AND I, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO BACK, BECAUSE IN 2023 WE WOULD HAVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON FRIDAYS. AND, AND WHEN I JUST THINK ABOUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC ALSO BEING AVAILABLE, I MEAN, TUESDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS ARE PRIME WORKING DAYS TYPICALLY. AND SO IN TERMS OF GENERAL PUBLIC BEING AVAILABLE FOR MEETINGS, AND, AND THIS MIGHT ALSO ANSWER THE EVENING QUESTION, UM, AND HAVING MEETINGS IN THE EVENINGS, EVEN IF IT'S ZOOM PARTICIPATION, JUST BECAUSE IT'S DURING THE DAY, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO KEEP BUSINESS HOURS CAN'T ALWAYS LOG INTO OUR MEETINGS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. AND I KNOW I HAVE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT, "GOSH, YOU GUYS MEET DURING THE WORKDAY. ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING OR LIMIT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION?" SO, WHILE I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR US TO CHANGE OUR 1 P.M. 
          TUESDAY MEETINGS AS THE PRIMARY TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY DONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE MORE TOWARDS HAVING SOME EVENING HOUR OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE WORKING DURING THE DAY. 
          I MEAN, ON THAT NOTE, YOU COULD EVEN SHIFT THE TIME. 
          RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE 10:30 AND A 01:00 P.M. START, SO MAYBE YOU DO A 1:00 P.M. AND A 3:00 P.M. 
          START, AND THEN YOU'RE DONE BY 5:00 P.M. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY HELPFUL. 
          HELPFUL. 
          WHAT ABOUT SHIFTING OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS TILL THURSDAYS INSTEAD OF WEDNESDAYS? IF THAT WORKS FOR THE BOARD. 
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AS YOU SHIFT THROUGH THE MONTH, WE GENERALLY HAVE, UH, THURS- THURSDAYS OPEN. 
          YEAH, I, I KNOW FOR ME PERSONALLY, THURSDAYS ARE REALLY, REALLY BAD DAYS, SO I PROBABLY WON'T HAVE, I- IF I CONTINUE ON THIS BOARD, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE A LOT OF AVAILABILITY FOR COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON THURSDAYS. 
          WELL, ON THE ONE HAND, WE DON'T WANT THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOLLOWING FULL BOARD MEETINGS, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE SHIFTING OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO ANOTHER DAY THAN WEDNESDAY. SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? MONDAYS? OR FRIDAYS? IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT DAY OF THE MONTH, WEEK OF THE MONTH TOO, MAYBE. ALL I KNOW IS THAT WHEN I FIRST JOINED THIS BOARD, I JOINED LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT MET ON FRIDAYS, AND, AND SO IT MIGHT ALSO BE THE TYPE OF THING MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME COMMITTEES ON THURSDAYS, AND SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE TO BE SERVE ON THOSE COMMITTEES BECAUSE IT'S ON A THURSDAY. AND SO WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT HAVING THIS SCHEDULE SET IS PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE IS CAN SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE OPERATIONS—I'M SAYING THIS HYPOTHETICALLY—OPERATIONS COMMITTEES ON THURSDAYS. I'M ABSOLUTELY NOT AVAILABLE ON THURSDAYS, SO PLEASE DON'T PUT ME ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YOU'LL KNOW. YEAH. SO I WONDER IF MAYBE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I WANT TO STEP BACK. 
          KELLY, THIS IS TREMENDOUS WORK. 
          THIS IS SO GREAT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS ALL OUT ON A CALENDAR, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALSO REACHING OUT TO ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE LIAISON COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITH, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS SUCH A GREAT, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AN ITERATIVE, ITERATIVE PROCESS. I THINK THIS IS SUCH A GREAT ITERATION OF, UM, WORKING WITH OUR CALENDAR, AND I, AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S, IT, IT COULD REALLY HELP SET US UP FOR SUCCESS FOR 2027. UM, AND I ALSO WONDER IF MAYBE BEFORE THIS COMES TO THE FULL BOARD, IF THERE IS MAYBE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, UH, DIRECTOR DESCHAMBAULT TALKS A LOT ABOUT HAVING ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVES. 
          I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY TO SET IT UP, LIKE, HERE'S SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS TO CONSIDER, AND YOU SORT OF BRING THAT UP, I THINK, IN YOUR SLIDES HERE TOO. 
          YEAH, I CAN, I CAN SHOW YOU, AGAIN, FEBRUARY IS KIND OF—SO MARCH IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE BECAUSE WE PUT ON SOME OF THE CONFERENCES, THE LEGISLATIVE LUNCH HOLDS, AND SO THE LEGISLATIVE LUNCH HOLDS ARE EITHER LIKE A TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, OR WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY FOR SACRAMENTO. YOU HAVE THE CPRS CONFERENCE IN SACRAMENTO ALSO THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH, AND THEN YOU HAVE, WHICH OVERLAPS WITH THE MARCH 2ND BOARD MEETING. THEN YOU HAVE LEGISLATIVE LUNCH POTENTIALLY OVERLAPPING WITH EXEC AND LEG COMMITTEE, AND SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY A MONTH BY MONTH KIND OF BASIS, AND SO IT IS GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS, I THINK, GETTING US THROUGH THERE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE STARTING REALLY IN SEPTEMBER. 
          BUT IF WE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE LOOKING LIKE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE APRIL, SO I ACCOUNTED FOR SPRING BREAK FOR KIND OF LOCAL CITIES. SOME MEET THE WEEK BEFORE, SOME MEET THE WEEK AFTER. SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER? THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TRAILS AND GREENWAY CONFERENCE THAT OVERLAPS WITH LIKE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND OPERATIONS AND FINANCE. THEN YOU HAVE TOGETHER BAY AREA THAT OVERLAPS WITH NCRC. MAY IS SAME THING, LIKE YOU HAVE A D.C. HOLD AND WHICH OVERLAPS WITH THE CARPD IN MONTEREY, PLUS THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL. SO THERE'S, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN IDEAL MONTH EXCEPT FOR JANUARY, WHICH IS PRETTY QUIET. SO, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL, WHICH I THINK IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE HERE ASKING. 
          MAYBE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT EACH OF THESE CONFERENCES. 
          I THINK SO. 
          CPRS IS A, UM, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD AND UNDERSTOOD IT'S A STAFF-LEVEL EVENT. IT'S A STAFF-LEVEL THING. I DON'T KNOW WHO ON THIS BOARD GOES TO THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE GO TO IT. I NEVER GO. I NEVER GO TO IT, AND SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE IT SHOULD BE ON THE LIST OF BOARD CONFERENCES. IT'S, IT'S NOT. 
          I THINK THE GENERAL MANAGER HAS IT. 
          THIS, YEAH, IT'S SUPER HELPFUL, UH, COLIN. I THINK ACTUALLY THIS, THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WITH WHEN WE BRING THIS TO THE FULL BOARD TO LIKE TALK THROUGH, TO SHOW THE CHALLENGE AROUND SCHEDULING, TO TALK THROUGH WHAT THE CONFERENCES ARE, AND TO GET FEEDBACK FROM YOUR COLLEAGUES SO THAT WE KNOW WHICH ONES FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN OR NOT INTERESTED IN. I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS TO LIKE PUT EVERYTHING SO THAT WE'RE NOT ACCIDENTALLY LEAVING OUT SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY REALLY CARES ABOUT, BUT IT'S SUPER HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, TOP OF MIND 
          [01:05:02]
FOR FOLKS AND NOT. 
          ON THE OTHER HAND, THE TRAILS AND GREENWAYS CONFERENCE MOST OF US GO TO, SO THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SHIFTING, UH, THOSE, THOSE MEETINGS, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING ON THE 20TH AND THE, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON THE 21ST, BECAUSE WE ALL GO TO THAT CONFERENCE. IT'S A WONDERFUL CONFERENCE. 
          WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY EASY TO SEE THAT 3 WOULD GO, AND IT'S NOT HARD AT ALL TO THINK THAT 4 WOULD GO, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR WHEN IT'S IN SANTA BARBARA, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE. 
          AS OPPOSED TO SAN RAMON. 
          THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO GO AND TALK ABOUT TRAILS; LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. UM, SO I RECOMMEND AMTRAK DOWN TO SANTA BARBARA. 
          ABSOLUTELY. SO, SO ANYWAY, I THINK THAT ONE, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A WISHFUL THINKING TO THINK WE COULD HAVE A BOARD MEETING UNDERNEATH THAT, THAT CONFERENCE. 
          CORRECT. YEAH, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ASKING. SO I'M ASSUMING MOVE IT TO THE 13TH, HAVE IT BEFORE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'D BE DELIVERING PACKETS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK, BECAUSE THE PACKETS WOULD BE DELIVERED APRIL 16TH, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PACKET REVIEW WHILE YOU'RE AT A CONFERENCE IN APRIL, SO IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO POTENTIALLY MEET ON THE 13TH. 
          OR THE 27TH. THAT TOGETHER BAY AREA CONFERENCE IS, THERE'S REALLY JUST ONE DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S THE... 
          YEAH, IT'S THE WEDNESDAY. 
          THAT'S WHERE, WHERE I GO, WHEN I GO. UM, SO IF I'M ON NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES, I'M GOING TO MISS A COMMITTEE MEETING BECAUSE I, I THINK IT'S WORTHY TO GO TO THAT WEDNESDAY SESSION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE JOSÉ GONZÁLEZ LEAD IT AND ARE, UM, HEADLINERS FOR THAT, AND IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT DAY, UM, AT FORT, UM, MASON. 
          WE CAN ALSO SHIFT NCRC. I JUST KEPT IT ON THE CADENCE THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR. 
          YEAH, I DON'T, YOU KNOW. 
          BUT, WELL, I JUST WANT TO- I THINK WE CAN MOVE NCRC, START IT IN JANUARY, SO THEN IT MEETS IN THE ODD MONTHS. SO THEN YOU DO JANUARY, MARCH INSTEAD OF FEBRUARY, APRIL. 
          SURE. THAT'S AN OPTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          UM, AND I THINK- OKAY. 
          SO IT DOES LOOK LIKE APRIL WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO SHIFT THE BOARD MEETING, BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. AND MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN, WE CAN PROBABLY SHARE RIGHT NOW SOME OF THE PRIORITY CONFERENCES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK TRAILS AND GREENWAY, CARPD, CSDA. 
          YES, SO- SPECIAL PARK DISTRICT CONFERENCE, UM. 
          WHEN IS THAT? THAT IS I THINK I HAVE THAT ON HERE. 
          JUNE 21ST TO THE 25TH IN OHIO. 
          OHIO. 
          CINCINNATI. 
          I MEAN, I'LL BE, I- I'M UNLIKELY TO GO, BUT I KNOW IT'S A VERY POPULAR ONE AND YEAH. 
          A FUN ONE TO, AND AN INTERESTING ONE AND A GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE, SO I- I DON'T WANT, JUST BECAUSE I MAY NOT PERSONALLY GO, I- I DO KNOW IT, I- I WOULD CONSIDER IT STILL A PRIORITY CONFERENCE FOR OUR GROUP. 
          YEAH, AND THEN CSDA IS THE LAST WEEK OF AUGUST. 
          YEAH, AND WE ALL M- M- MOST OF US GO TO THAT. 
          YEAH, AND THAT'S SAN DIEGO, SO THAT ONE DOESN'T OVERLAP THIS YEAR IN 2027 WITH ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. HOW ABOUT CARPD? UH, THAT ONE IS IN MAY. OH, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY. I APOLOGIZE. 
          IT'S AROUND A WEEKEND, SO IT'S ONLY POSSIBLY GONNA CONFLICT WITH OUR D.C. ADVOCACY. 
          CORRECT, AND THE, THE ONE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, OR LOW LIGHT IN GRAY IS THAT THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL IS THE LAST WEEK OF MAY AND THE FIRST WEEK IN JUNE FOR LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          BUT AGAIN, THE D.C. TRIP REALLY KIND OF IS UP TO THE CONGRESSIONAL CALENDAR, SO WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL I THINK AT LEAST DECEMBER, IF NOT JANUARY. 
          YEAH, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, BECAUSE I HAVE A HARD TIME DECIDING BETWEEN GOING TO D.C. 
          OR CARPD BECAUSE... 
          WE'RE, AND WE'RE ALSO NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PLAN THE D.C. 
          ADVOCACY RIGHT NOW, AS KELLY CORRECT, YEAH. 
          WE DON'T KNOW THE CONGRESSIONAL CALENDAR, AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE HOW THE, YOU KNOW, HOW EVERYTHING FALLS IN TERMS OF- I'M JUST SAYING, IF THAT, IF IT FALLS ON THAT, THAT WEEK, THE SAME WEEK AS CARPD, THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC. 
          THE, UH, THE SACRAMENTO LEGISLATIVE LUNCHEON IS LISTED AT TWO DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR. 
          CORRECT. SO THERE IS THE LEGISLATIVE, I GUESS, LEGISLATIVE DAYS, WHICH IS WHEN YOU, I THINK IT'S TWO SEPARATE THINGS. 
          SO. 
          YEAH, I THINK THE ONE THAT'S EARLIER IN THE YEAR, LIKE IN MARCH. YEAH, THIS ONE SHOULD BE RENAMED, UH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE CALL IT, BUT. 
          LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY LEGIS- YEAH, DAYS OR SOMETHING. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, OKAY, WELL THEN THAT, 
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THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE CONFUSION. 
          YES, AND THEN THE LUNCH, I BELIEVE, IS CONFIRMED FOR YEAH, THAT'S COMING UP SOON. 
          MARCH 31ST, 2027. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE IT'S AUGUST, OR WE'RE IN SEPTEMBER. BECAUSE I DON'T... 
          THERE'S THE LEGISLATIVE LUNCHEON AUGUST, UH, SEPTEMBER 23RD. THAT IS CONFIRMED FOR 2027. 
          THIS YEAR. 
          WHICH DOESN'T OVERLAP WITH ANYTHING. 
          YEAH. 
          A- AND THEN BACK TO APRIL, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT MOVING THE APRIL 20TH MEETING BECAUSE OF THE CONFERENCE, YEAH. 
          THE TRAILS AND GREENWAY CONFERENCE EITHER TO THE 13TH OR 27TH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          UM, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THAT, BUT MAYBE THAT COULD ALSO BE ONE WHERE IF WE SEEM TO HAVE A LIGHTER AGENDA, WE CANCEL IT, AND WE SHOULD, WE AS A BOARD SHOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT. AND ACTUALLY, THE, ONE OF MY VISIONS FOR THIS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WOULD BE THAT WE COULD BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND MAYBE WORKING IN SOME OF THAT BALANCE WORK THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING, KELLY, THAT YOU'RE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB ON, AND WE CAN ALSO HELP WEIGH IN. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE, HYPOTHETICALLY, LET'S SAY WE HAVE APRIL 27TH AS A BOARD MEETING, AND WE SEE WE HAVE A RELATIVELY LIGHT AGENDA, NOTHING THAT NEEDS TO, TO BE DONE, MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD USE OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE JUST TO CONFIRM THAT, HEY, MAYBE THAT APRIL 27TH, HYPOTHETICALLY, MEETING COULD BE CANCELLED, BUT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT ON THE CALENDAR AND THEN CANCEL IT LATER. 
          APRIL'S A BUSY MONTH. 
          LIKE, WELL, YES, I KNOW. I- I'M JUST USING THIS AS A HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT BALANCING, I THINK THAT'S HOW THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CAN ALSO BE UTILIZED. 
          YEAH, AND STAFF CAN ALSO WORK ON THAT ON THE BACK END TOO, KNOWING THAT APRIL IS A BUSY MONTH AND WE HAVE ALL THESE THINGS SCHEDULED, SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MEETINGS, WE CAN POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, STRATEGICALLY STACK OUR AGENDAS TO KEEP ONE OF THEM LIGHT IN CASE. 
          WELL, THE 13TH THEN PLACES IT NEXT TO THE, UM, EXACTLY. 
          COMMITTEE MEETINGS THE NEXT DAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO THE 27TH MAKES SENSE. 
          OKAY. I CAN SWITCH IT APRIL 27TH TO APRIL- YEAH. 
          APRIL 20TH TO 27TH. AND THEN THERE WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT STUDY SESSIONS. UM, I KNOW I WORKED REALLY HARD, UH, IN TERMS OF PARTNERING WITH MAX AND WITH OUR, UM, CONSULTANT MEGAN FLUKE ON, UM, ON THE BOARD RETREAT AND 3 OF OUR 5 ADDITIONAL STUDY SESSIONS. AND I KNOW ONE OF THE FEEDBACK ITEMS WAS THAT MAYBE WE COULD CREATE A MORE OF A THROUGH LINE ACROSS ALL THE STUDY SESSIONS. 
          AND I THINK WE STILL DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF CREATING THAT THROUGH LINE, BUT I THINK LAND AND TRAILS WAS STILL HANDLED SEPARATELY FROM THE WORK THAT WE HAD DONE WITH, UM, MEGAN FLUKE. AND I THINK WE STILL DID A VERY GOOD JOB WITH LAND AND TRAILS. UM, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE RECEIVED FEEDBACK ABOUT MAYBE IT WASN'T AS EFFECTIVE, THESE SERIES OF WORKSHOPS. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED. 
          I GUESS HERE'S ANOTHER THING FOR YOUR COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER. 
          I ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE A COUPLE WORKSHOPS AROUND THE DISTRICT PLAN DURING THE ABSOLUTELY. 
          DO YOU WANT TO PLAN THOSE NOW AS PART OF THE CALENDAR, OR DO YOU WANT TO, AND SHOULD THEY REPLACE OTHER EXISTING WORKSHOPS, OR SHOULD THEY BE IN ADDITION TO THEM, AND SHOULD WE WAIT TO PLAN THEM WHEN WE KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM, OR SHOULD WE JUST TRY TO PUT PLACEHOLDERS IN OUR CALENDAR? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 
          AND I IMAGINE THE TOPICS WOULD PROBABLY BE SIMILAR WITHIN THE DISTRICT PLAN AS WELL, RIGHT? WE TALK ABOUT LAND, WE TALK ABOUT TRAILS, BUT YES, THAT'S, THAT'S A, A REALLY GOOD QUESTION TO ASK THEM. COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THOUGHTS? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. I ALWAYS LIKE THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE, AND THE, BOTH AMONG OURSELVES AND WITH STAFF AND THE PUBLIC ON THESE SEPARATE THINGS. AND SO I PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DISTRICT PLAN BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND JUST FOCUS ON THAT, AND THEN FOCUS ON THE LAND AND FOCUS ON THE TRAILS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THAT'S MY, MY WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. JUST IT'S, IT'S A GOOD FOCUS. 
          THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          TO DO THAT, DO IT THAT WAY. 
          THOSE, THOSE ATTEMPTS TO MIX PLANNING WITH CAPITAL, I MEAN, THAT, THAT WAS A DISASTER. 
          WELL, THAT'S, YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S YOUR FEEDBACK FROM YOUR COMMITTEE, WHEN WE BRING THIS TO THE FULL BOARD, WE CAN PUT SOME PLACEHOLDERS IN FOR DISTRICT PLAN, UH, WORKSHOPS. 
          THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS WE DO ON FRIDAYS, I THINK. 
          UM, AND, AND THEN IN TERMS OF... I, I GUESS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE TRIED SOME NEW THINGS THIS YEAR, AND I, I VIEW IT AS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS, UM, AND I KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I RECEIVED FEEDBACK THAT MAYBE IT WASN'T AS EFFECTIVE, YOU KNOW, 
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DO WE HAVE SUGGESTIONS JUST TO HELP, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR'S PLANNERS PLAN, YOU KNOW, HOW TO HAVE THESE STUDY SESSIONS BE EFFECTIVE? I KNOW ONE OF THE GOALS I SET OUT WAS TO BETTER CONNECT OUR STUDY SESSIONS TO OUR BUDGET PROCESS, AND A- AND I KEEP ON USING THE WORD THROUGH LINE, BUT, BUT HAVE THEM BE BETTER CONNECTED, AND THAT, THAT'S WHY, UM, I WAS THRILLED TO WORK WITH SOMEONE LIKE MEGAN AND PARTNER CLOSELY WITH MAX ON THAT, BUT WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T VERY EFFECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS IF WE THINK OF BEING ABLE TO IMPROVE UPON AND THIS ITERATIVE PROCESS IN TERMS OF HOW WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT SO THAT IT IS EFFECTIVE? THAT'S A VERY DISTINCT CONVERSATION, I THINK. 
          BECAUSE, UM, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT... WE COULD, WE COULD BACKTRACK AND TALK ABOUT MEGAN'S WORK. I MEAN, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES IN ABOUT HOW IT WAS ORGANIZED AND PRESENTED, UH, AND THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS. 
          THAT TH- THOSE WERE THE ISSUES. 
          I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE WAS WITH THE WORKSHOPS THEMSELVES OR THE SEQUENCE OF WORKSHOPS. 
          THE, THE ISSUE WAS VERY MUCH, UM, FOCUSED ON THE CONSULTANT WHERE YOU GOT FEEDBACK. UM, BUT I THINK THIS, THE WORKSHOPS AND THE SEQUENCE OF WORKSHOPS THAT YOU AND MAX WORKED OUT WERE, UM, UH, DONE VERY WELL. AND THE ACTUAL OUTCOMES WERE PRETTY GOOD. I THINK THE COMPLAINT, COMPLAINTS YOU GOT WERE WITH, UM, BASICALLY SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT THE, UH, CONSULTANT FOCUSED ON AND, AND THEIR BACKGROUND MATERIALS. 
          IT, YOU KNOW, YEAH. 
          AM I RIGHT? I'M STARTING TO REMEMBER NOW YEAH. 
          ABOUT THAT, AND IT, IT DID SEEM SORT OF ODD TO ME. WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ON THIS ESOTERIC THING OR WHATEVER IT WAS? IT'S VERY ACADEMIC. 
          YEAH, WHEN, WHEN, UH, THERE REALLY OUGHT TO BE A STRONG NUTS-AND-BOLTS, KIND OF LIKE, LET'S GET IN THERE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. 
          WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SO, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME ABOUT THAT. 
          SO THAT, THAT ISN'T THE ISSUE. 
          THE, THE SEQUENCE OF THE, OF WORKSHOP OR THE HAVING OF THOSE WORKSHOPS, I THINK, WERE GOOD, AND I THINK THE OUTCOMES WERE GOOD. 
          YEAH, I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK I HEARD FROM THOSE WORKSHOPS WAS A DESIRE IN THE JANUARY MEETING, THE JANUARY, UM, RETREAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR BOARD TO SHARE PRIORITIES FOR THE YEAR, UM, THAT LIKE TI- TYPICALLY WE'VE DONE THAT MID-YEAR, BUT THAT ACTUALLY THAT JANUARY IS AN A GOOD OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, SO, UM. 
          YEAH, B- BECAUSE THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY TIED TO THE BUDGET. 
          I KEPT HAVING THAT ARGUMENT WITH OUR FORMER GM, WHO MOVED IT FROM JANUARY TO THE, BECAUSE IT'S BUDGET-RELATED. 
          AND I SAID, NO, IT ISN'T. 
          WE'RE, YOU KNOW, HALF MY PRIORITIES ENVISION BUDGET ISSUES MANY YEARS OUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. 
          IT GIVES THE BOARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BASICALLY LAY ON MANAGEMENT EARLY IN THE YEAR WHAT, WHAT ISSUES WE'RE INTERESTED IN. SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA, AND THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO DO. WE USED TO DO IT IN JANUARY. 
          SO YEAH, SO I THINK, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT TO KEEP THE WORKSHOP SCHEDULE AS WE HAVE IT, AND I WONDER IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, NOT TO PRESUME TOO MUCH, BUT, UH, OUR, OUR BOARD VICE PRESIDENT, COLIN COFFEY, IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE OUR BOARD PRESIDENT NEXT YEAR, SO LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION THANK YOU. 
          AROUND THAT. 
          THAT'S A COMPLIMENT. 
          IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE PAST, THESE WORKSHOPS, IT WAS TYPICALLY THE BOARD PRESIDENT INDIVIDUALLY WOULD WORK WITH THE GENERAL MANAGER TO PLAN THE WORKSHOPS, BUT WOULD IT BE HELPFUL SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE MOST EFFECTIVE WORKSHOPS? MAYBE, AGAIN, THIS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE COULD, COULD BE USED TO ALSO HAVE A CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF PLANNING. I MEAN, IT MAY NOT BE AS THOROUGH AS WHAT THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY INDIVIDUALLY WORK ON, BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN GET SOME, SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME SUPPORT IN THE PLANNING SO THAT WHEN THE WORKSHOPS ACTUALLY HAPPEN, IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, THAT IMPROVED UPON EXPERIENCE. 
          SO, SO I GUESS MAYBE I'M GE- I'M JUMPING AHEAD TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR OUR BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, BUT IT'S ALSO RELEVANT IN TERMS OF THE CALENDAR AS WE'RE NOW CONFIRMING THAT WE WANT TO KEEP THE BOARD WORKSHOP STRUCTURE. 
          YEAH. 
          WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY—WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION NOW—BUT MAYBE IF IT WAS AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, JUST SO YOU COULD 
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GET SOME SUPPORT FROM COLLEAGUES AS WE'RE PLANNING THE 2027 WORKSHOPS? I'M SORRY, ARE THE WORKSHOPS IN THIS CALENDAR? THEY ARE. 
          I THINK I, I THINK THEY ARE. 
          THEY ARE; THEY'RE ALL— UM, SO THE FIRST ONE, THE RETREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M SO SORRY. 
          LET'S GO THROUGH THAT. 
          FRIDAY, JANUARY 22ND, STUDY SESSION, ANNUAL RETREAT. 
          FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 5TH, STUDY SESSION ON LAND. 
          FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 26TH, STUDY SESSION ON TRAILS. 
          FRIDAY, MARCH 19TH, STUDY SESSION. THESE ARE THE ONES WHERE THEY KIND OF, THIS YEAR, THEY WERE DETERMINED AFTER, SO I KEPT THESE ONES, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER WE, THE TOPICS WE PUT ON, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE DETERMINED AT THIS POINT. APRIL 16TH, STUDY SESSION. MAY 7TH, STUDY SESSION, AND THEN A BOARD SITE TOUR ON MAY 21ST. SO THE LAST STUDY SESSION WOULD BE MAY 7TH, AND THEN AT SOME POINT WE'LL ADD IN, UM, THE WORK PLAN. 
          YEAH, WE CAN, AND WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE, DISTRICT PLAN. 
          THOSE LATER ONES. THEY COULD BE PART OF DISTRICT PLAN; THEY COULD BE PART OF SORT OF THE PRIORITIZATION FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND WE CAN WORK ON WHAT THE SUBJECT MATTER IS, AND, UM, TALKING TO AMY, WE CAN LOOK AT WHETHER WE NEED TO ADD AN EARLIER ONE AROUND THE DISTRICT PLAN TOO. 
          UM, I WOULD ANTICIPATE WE'D WANT TO, SO, UM. 
          MAYBE SHIFT SOME OF THE STUDY SESSIONS, LIKE IT, LET'S SAY THE FEBRUARY 5TH STUDY SESSION ON LAND COULD BE THE DISTRICT PLAN. 
          TRUE. 
          AND THEN THE STUDY SESSION ON TRAILS ON THE 26TH COULD STILL BE TRAILS, AND THEN MAYBE LAND IS, YOU KNOW, MARCH 19TH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          TOTALLY. AND WE HAVE TO REMAIN, UH, ACUTELY AWARE OF HOW EACH OF THESE TOPICS, UM, CHEW UP STAFF TIME. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IN MY OWN MIND I'M, I'M AWARE ENOUGH OF THAT TO BALANCE IT. NOT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I'M SO ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS WORK, I'D HAVE A STUDY SESSION EVERY WEEK. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE MY... I WOULD BE IN HOG HEAVEN. 
          MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A COMMITTEE, A STUDY SESSION COMMITTEE THAT MEETS MONTHLY. 
          I'M JOKING. NO. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE UP TO ME, RIGHT? BUT I'M COGNIZANT OF HOW MUCH STAFF TIME THIS IS GOING TO TAKE, AND I'M, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL MANAGER IS TAKING THE DISTRICT PLAN PROCESS, UH, A- A- AWAY FROM CONSULTANTS SO MUCH AND TURNING IT OVER TO OUR STAFF AND US, WHICH I THINK I'M THRILLED WITH. BUT THAT ENTAILS THEN, YOU KNOW, WHO- WHO'S GONNA DO ALL THE WORK ON UPDATING THE 2013 MASTER PLAN, AS I THINK I'M, I HEARD THIS BOARD WANTING TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION, WHILE WE'RE DOING THE OVERARCHING STRATEGIC PLAN. I MEAN, I LIKE THIS, THAT PROPOSAL, AND I, I THINK IT'S, UM, GONNA, UH, HAVE END UP WITH A, WITH A GREAT PRODUCT AND GREAT ENGAGEMENT BY THIS BOARD, BUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK ON, ON STAFF. UM, SO WE GOT TO RELY ON YOU TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU, HOW YOU PACE THESE WORKSHOPS. 
          AND, UH, IT, IT, IT, I, I, I REALIZE IT'S, UH, HEAVILY STAFF-DEPENDENT, STAFF TIME, AND GOLLY GEE, CAN WE GET A CONSULTANT TO HELP WITH THIS? YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT KI- THAT KIND OF JUGGLING THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. 
          UM, SO WE CAN'T REALLY FILL IN THE BLANKS RIGHT NOW, I THINK, ON FUTURE THESE, THESE STUDY SESSIONS LATER IN THE YEAR. 
          YEAH, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING TO US PRETTY FAST, AND SO, AND I, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA TH- TH- THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKED AT AS HYPO- MOST LIKELY, SAY MOST LIKELY, MOST LIKELY YOU AS BOARD PRESIDENT WILL BE LOOKED UPON TO ORGANIZE IT, AND, UM, AND WE DID HIRE A CONSULTANT THIS YEAR, JUST TO BE CLEAR, TO HELP US WITH THE STUDY SESSIONS, OR MOST OF THE STUDY SESSIONS, AND, UM, AND IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, ONE CONSIDERATION FOR YOU IS, I GUESS WE COULD HAVE IT ON AN AGENDA FOR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. 
          WHAT WE HAVE FACILITATED, YEAH. 
          YEAH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE, WE'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION ON THAT RIGHT NOW, SO I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT IN THE WEEDS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I'D SHARE THAT WITH YOU SINCE IT IS ON THE CALENDAR, AND SO I THINK WE'VE CONFIRMED WE WANT TO KEEP THE STUDY SESSIONS, BUT 
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MAYBE THE TOPIC MIGHT CHANGE DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT PLAN RIGHT. 
          SCHEDULING, SO LET'S KEEP THAT FLEXIBLE. 
          SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE FINISH HAVING THE MONTH HIGHLIGHT EACH MONTH? VARIOUS, IT MIGHT NOT BE EACH MONTH, BUT MONTHS, FOR INSTANCE, WHERE THERE ARE ISSUES. AUGUST IS AN ISSUE, AND SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST YOU, YOU GO TO PLACES ON THE CALENDAR THAT YOU NEED TO HIGHLIGHT. 
          OKAY. I THINK WE TOUCHED ON MARCH. I THINK MARCH IS FINE AS IT IS BECAUSE WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT CPRS REALLY IS A STAFF-LEVEL CONFERENCE, NOT A BOARD-LEVEL CONFERENCE, SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MOVE MARCH 2ND BOARD MEETING. 
          I AGREE. 
          OKAY. AND, UH... 
          AND REAL QUICK, AND YOU CAN JUST REMOVE THE CPRS CONFERENCE FROM THE CALENDAR. 
          OKAY. OKAY. UM, AND THEN, SO I THINK MARCH IS FINE. AND THEN APRIL, THERE WAS THE TRAILS AND GREENWAYS OVERLAP, SO I THINK THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION, AND THE RECOMMENDATION I HEARD IS MOVE THE APRIL 20TH BOARD MEETING TO APRIL 27TH, AND THEN THE NCRC SHOULD BE FINE AS IT IS ON THE 28TH. AND THEN THE OTHER POTENTIAL ISSUE IS TRAILS AND GREENWAY. HOWEVER, STAFF WILL WORK TO TRY AND BALANCE THOSE AGENDAS TO MAKE THEM LIGHT IN CASE WE NEED TO CANCEL THEM IF—IS THAT WHAT THE DIRECTION WAS ON THAT? SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          SO FOR THE WEEK OF APRIL 20TH, WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING ON APRIL 20TH, AND WE HAVE OPS AND FINANCE ON APRIL 21ST. THE FEEDBACK I HEARD IS THAT THE BOARD IS OKAY WITH POTENTIALLY CANCELING A MEETING, AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HEAVY ITEMS AND THE AGENDA IS LIGHT. SO INSTEAD OF RESCHEDULING THESE AHEAD OF TIME, WE WILL JUST SCHEDULE THEM AS NEEDED, POTENTIALLY CANCEL THEM. 
          I THINK, I THINK WHAT I HEARD IS LET'S MOVE MOVE. 
          THE BOARD MEETING TO THE 27TH. 
          YES, THAT—SORRY, WE DID SAY THAT. AND THEN THE COMMITTEE MEETING, THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS WE COULD CANCEL AS NEEDED. 
          NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FINE. 
          FOR TRAILS AND GREENWAY? OH, THE 21ST. 
          NO, THEY'RE NOT FINE. 
          CORRECT. 
          BECAUSE WE'RE, I TAKE THAT BACK. 
          YES. SO WE DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS THAT. 
          YOU GOT, WE GOT TO MOVE THOSE COMMITTEE MINUTES. 
          I THINK THE POINT THAT'S SORT OF BEING MADE HERE YES. 
          IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW 5 MONTHS IN ADVANCE, RIGHT. 
          THAT THE AGENDAS CAN BE SORT OF REDISTRIBUTED INTO BEFORE AND AFTER, RIGHT? MHM. 
          AND, AND WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE WE JUST CANCEL THEM NOW; WE TAKE THEM OUT FOR THAT MONTH. 
          WE JUST TAKE THEM OUT, CANCEL THEM FOR APRIL. 
          YOU CAN'T CANCEL FINANCE IN APRIL. THAT'S A BUSY TIME. 
          MAYBE WE'LL CHECK IN WITH JONAH. 
          YEAH, CHECK. PLEASE CHECK, YEAH. 
          YEAH, OKAY. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          MAYBE LOOK AT HISTORICAL, LIKE THE LAST 3 YEARS, WHAT WE DID, THE FINANCE. 
          MOVE THEM TO THE, THE, TO THE 15TH. MOVE OPERATIONS AND FINANCE TO THE 15TH. 
          AND ALSO JUST BASED ON EARLIER FEEDBACK THAT WE MAY BE ALSO REDOING SOME OF THE COMMITTEE THAT'S RIGHT. 
          STRUCTURE AND SPLITTING THEM. 
          SO, I- I DON'T THINK WE'RE- WE'RE REALLY HELPING YOU MUCH ON THE COMMITTEE SCHEDULE, KELLY, OR- OR BUT THE 13TH. 
          WE- WE CAN MOVE TO THE 13TH BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE ON SOME OF THOSE COMMITTEES, AND THURSDAY'S BAD. 
          WELL, HERE'S- HERE'S ONE THING I'M THINKING IS ONE IDEA YOU ALL BROUGHT UP WAS THE IDEA OF COMING UP WITH A FEW ALTERNATIVES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS LIKE KEEP THIS CALENDAR AS ONE ALTERNATIVE, TAKE SOME OF THESE IDEAS. WE CAN SPLIT UP THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, HAVE THAT BE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE. 
          WE CAN COME UP WITH A FEW DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THIS AND BRING THIS TO YOUR, WHEN WE BRING IT TO THE BOARD. 
          I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN. OKAY. I DON'T THINK WE'RE HELPING KELLY, BUT THANK YOU, KELLY, FOR STICKING WITH US ON THIS. 
          I THINK YOU'RE TOTALLY HELPING. 
          THIS IS LIKE A, IT'S A LITTLE MESSY, BUT IT'S, I APPRECIATE IT. IT'S GREAT. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, DOING THE WORK NOW IN 2027 SHOULD AVOID SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'VE EXPERIENCED OVER THE PAST 3 YEARS WITH CALENDARING, RIGHT? YES, THE—I THINK— IN THEORY AND IN HOPE. 
          THAT IS A HOPE, BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE THIS ADOPTED, YOU KNOW, BY DECEMBER AT THE LATEST. THEN ANYBODY WHO IS APPOINTED TO THESE COMMITTEES WILL HAVE THE FULL SCHEDULE AHEAD OF TIME AND CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY. 
          SO THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE DOING THIS NOW VERSUS LATER WHEN WE'RE SCRAMBLING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          POTENTIALLY SCRAMBLING. 
          YES, WE CAN, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS FLEXIBLE. I MEAN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT THE BOARD DESIRES. 
          ALL RIGHT, AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAY, BUT LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THE CALENDAR. 
          OKAY, YES, SO MAY. 
          WELL, MAY, I, I JUST WANT TO MM-HMM. 
          MAKE LIFE MORE DIFFICULT FOR ERICH, WHICH IS HE SHOULD TRY TO AVOID THE WEEK OF THE 23RD. 
          I THINK THAT IS ALSO KIND OF STAFF'S DESIRES TO AVOID THAT WEEK BECAUSE IT IS THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL. 
          JUST HAVE AN ASTERISK THERE; TRY TO AVOID THAT. 
          OKAY. THAT ONE, I THINK, IS A LITTLE HARDER. I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW IT WORKS, BUT WE'RE WAITING ON THE CONGRESSIONAL I KNOW. 
          SCHEDULE, SO. SO WE WILL TRY TO AVOID THE FOURTH WEEK OF MAY AS POSSIBLE. 
          HOPEFULLY HAKEEM JEFFRIES IS MAKING THE SCHEDULE AT THAT POINT. 
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ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK WE GOT MAY COVERED. YES, LET'S GO TO JUNE. 
          JUNE, THERE WAS, THERE'S REALLY NO ISSUES AT ALL. JUNE WAS FINE. JULY, THERE'S NO SCHEDULED BOARD MEETINGS BECAUSE THAT IS OUR LEGISLATIVE BREAK. I DO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE ALAMEDA COUNTY SPECIAL DISTRICT ASSOCIATION DOES MEET IN JULY. IT IS THE SECOND MONDAY, IF ANYBODY ATTENDS THAT. AND THEN WE DO HAVE OUR, UM, THE PARK DISTRICT VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION EVENT IS JULY 18TH, WILL BE JULY 18TH. 
          AUGUST, NO OVERLAPS OR ANYTHING. THE QUESTION THAT I DID ASK THE BOARD, SO IT'S SHOWN HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE, I ACCOMMODATED FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT TUESDAY, AUGUST 3RD, AND THEN I JUST SHIFTED THE AUGUST 3RD MEETING TO TUESDAY, AUGUST 10TH. SO I DO REALIZE THAT GIVES YOU BACK-TO-BACK BOARD MEETING AND COMMITTEE. SO I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, OR WE JUST TAKE THIS TO THE BOARD. 
          CAN WE SHIFT THE 17TH TO THE 24TH? WE CAN DO THAT. IS THERE CONSENSUS ON THE BOARD? OH, AGAIN, TO AVOID, UM, SO THEN IT'S NOT BACK-TO-BACK. 
          NEXT-DAY FINANCE. 
          YES. 
          NEXT-DAY NATURAL RESOURCES IS A LITTLE EASIER. THAT'S... 
          RIGHT, AND THE COMMITTEES MAY ALSO BE ON DIFFERENT DAYS TOO, AS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS. 
          OH YEAH, OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT I DO THINK MAYBE HAVING THE TWO-WEEK BUFFER, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE FIVE TUESDAYS IN AUGUST, MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR YOU, BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE TO DO BACK-TO-BACK AGENDA PACKETS, UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE A DECENT SCHEDULE. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          AND WE HAVE CSDA'S CLEAR. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          MM-HMM. 
          OKAY, SEPTEMBER, THERE WAS NO REAL OVERLAP OR ISSUES. 
          GREAT. 
          AND THEN OCTOBER, NO OVERLAP OR ISSUES. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE, UM, ADDED IN SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE THE EAST BAY MUD AND HASPA MEETING, SO THOSE ARE ON THE SAME DAY, BUT THOSE DON'T USUALLY HAVE OVERLAPPING. 
          YEAH, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 
          THOSE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 
          UM. 
          THE NRPA, IS THAT A CONFERENCE THAT WE TYPICALLY GO TO AS BOARD MEMBERS? I DON'T THINK IT IS. 
          JOHN HAS GONE. 
          I'VE, I'VE GONE. LYNDA WENT, I, SHE WENT, UH, LAST YEAR, MAYBE? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WENT THIS YEAR. 
          YEAH, YEAH. I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING IT ON THERE JUST OKAY. 
          SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT, YOU KNOW, AND I, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE THAT I WOULDN'T GO TO IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S... 
          BUT I WONDER IF, LIKE, WE HAVE OUR PRIORITY CONFERENCES, AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER RECOMMENDED CONFERENCES. 
          MAYBE THEY COULD BE DIFFERENT COLORS. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO ADD ANOTHER COLOR. 
          YOU KNOW, A CONFERENCE WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT, AND, UH, I'VE SHARED IT WITH BOTH OF YOU, IS, UM, I, I LEARNED LAST YEAR FROM ALLISON, UM, THAT, UM, WE BELONG TO THE COUNT- NATIONAL COUNTY PARK ASSOCIATION, SO ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY PARKS. 
          AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT OUR LIFEGUARD SERVICES WON THE AWARD FOR. 
          I NEVER, YEAH. 
          FROM. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT'S RIGHT, OUR AQUATIC SERVICES WON AN AWARD THIS YEAR, AND PETE WASN'T ABLE TO GO, WHICH WAS UNFORTUNATE. 
          UM, BUT I HADN'T KNOWN THAT WE WERE A MEMBER OF THAT ORGANIZATION, AND TO ME, THAT'S LIKE A PARK OPERATORS' ASSOCIATION AND ANNUAL MEETING THAT IS MOST EQUIVALENT TO WHAT WE DO, SINCE WE, WE ARE A TWO-COUNTY PARK SYSTEM. WE ACT AS A BASICALLY COUNTY PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR TWO DIFFERENT COUNTIES. 
          UM, AND I LOOKED AT THEIR ANNUAL MEETING AND ITS TOPICS, AND I WAS THINKING, GEE WHIZ, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER GOING TO. 
          WHEN IS, WHEN IS IT? DO YOU REMEMBER? WHEN? WELL, THIS YEAR IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER. 
          OKAY. I, I, I, I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE PUT THAT, ADD THAT ONTO THE CALENDAR, JUST... 
          WELL, AND, AND CIRCULATE SOME BACKGROUND. THIS IS, I MEAN, FOR SOME REASON THE BOARD WASN'T TOLD WE WERE A MEMBER OF THIS ASSOCIATION. THERE MIGHT BE A REASON FOR THAT, BUT YOU FOLKS SHOULDN'T BE INTERESTED. SO I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO SOME URBAN PARKS INSTITUTE THAT I KNOW BOB DOYLE ALWAYS ENCOURAGED US TO GO TO AND, AND ALL THAT, SO. 
          THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY PARK AND RECREATION OFFICIALS, YEAH. 
          THAT ONE IS JUNE 21ST TO 24TH, SO IT DOES OVERLAP WITH THE SPECIAL PARK DISTRICT CONFERENCE IN OHIO IN 2027. 
          OKAY, THAT'S A PROBLEM. 
          AND, OH, AND THAT'S, I THINK IT'S THE SAME ONE, OR THEY CO-LOCATED IT BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO IN CINCINNATI, OHIO. 
          OH, THEY CO-LO- THAT MAKES A 
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LOT OF SENSE. 
          I THINK I REMEMBER THEM TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT ACTUALLY MAY BE A COOL SITUATION. SO CAN WE RESEARCH THAT ONE? MM-HMM. IT'S ON MY LIST. ADDED IT. 
          THANK YOU, AND MAYBE, UM, AT SOME POINT, NO HURRY, NO RUSH, THAT, UM, THE BOARD, UH, LEARN ABOUT THIS ASSOCIATION AND WHETHER I'M RIGHT OR WRONG THAT IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO BE, UM, INVOLVED IN, IN TERMS OF THEIR ANNUAL MEETINGS AND THEIR NEWSLETTERS AND SUCH. 
          YEAH, AND MA- MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CONFERENCES THAT I FEEL LIKE ARE PRIORITY CONFERENCES FOR US, AND OTHER CONFERENCES THAT CAN BE RECOMMENDED CONFERENCES, AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER A LIST. A- A- AND WITH CONFERENCES, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT, NOT EVEN THE PRIORITY CONFERENCES ARE MANDATORY; NONE OF THEM ARE MANDATORY. AND EVEN CONFERENCES THAT AREN'T ON THE PRIORITY OR RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL A PROCESS TO ALSO REQUEST GOING TO ADDITIONAL CONFERENCES. SO WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, ADD THIS. I THINK YOU, YOU PUT TOGETHER A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, KELLY, ABOUT THIS, SO WE COULD JUST ADD SOME OF THIS, MAYBE AMEND THAT OR ADD AN ADDENDUM TO THAT ABOUT IT. BUT YES, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO LEARN ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND, UM, WE CAN HAVE PRIORITY AND THEN RECOMMENDED, AND THEN ALSO THE OPTION IF SOMEONE SEES DOES ANYONE ON STAFF GO TO GO TO THAT? I JUST SAY I'VE BEEN A MEMBER FROM WHEN I WAS IN MARIN, YEAH. 
          OBVIOUSLY COUNTY PARKS AND ALSO H- HERE, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BOTH THAT NACPRO, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY PARK AND REC OFFICIALS, AND THERE'S NRPA, RIGHT, NATIONAL REC AND PARK ASSOCIATION. UH, LIKE, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LIKE CPRS, BUT LIKE AT A NATIONAL LEVEL, SO KIND OF, UM, INDUSTRY-WIDE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALL OF THOSE CPRS AND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE IN COMMON IS THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE TYPICAL RECREATION PARKS, LIKE BALL FIELDS, POOLS. 
          UH. 
          THAT'S WHY I'VE NEVER GONE TO THE NATIONAL PARK AND REC ASSOCIATION, BECAUSE IT'S, UM, A COUPLE OF THOUSAND OF CITY PARK DEPARTMENTS YEAH. 
          WHICH RUN, RUN COMMUNITY CENTERS AND... 
          WHAT WE DO IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY, WE HAVE MORE SORT OF NATURAL AREAS THAN A LOT OF COUNTY OR CITY PARKS DO, AND IT'S A LITTLE MORE SIMILAR TO A STATE PARK DIS- YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A LOT OF WAYS. 
          UM, BUT WE DO, WE'RE MEMBERS OF THOSE TH- WE GET THE NEWSLETTERS; WE CAN SHARE THOSE WITH YOU ALL. UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME TEAM MEMBERS WHO'VE GONE TO SOME OF THE CONFERENCES. I'M NOT SURE. I KNOW LISA IS, UM, YOU KNOW. 
          SHE'S ON THE BOARD, I THINK, OF ONE OF THEM, RIGHT? LISA GOORJIAN? SURE, MAYBE SHE WAS WAS ON THE BOARD. 
          IN THE PAST. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SHE'S SORT OF ENGAGED IN A NUMBER OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, SO HAPPY TO LIKE KIND OF WE JUST NEED THAT KIND OF FEEDBACK. 
          DO A LITTLE RESEARCH, AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT, UM, IN, UH, WHEN WE COME TO THE BOARD TO TALK ABOUT THIS, IS KIND OF SHARE WHAT SOME OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE AND HOW EACH ONE'S UNIQUE. 
          OKAY, ENOUGH TIME ON THAT. 
          NO, BUT THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE. SO WE HAVE PRIORITY CONFERENCES AND RECOMMENDED CONFERENCES, AND THEN THE OPTION IF THERE'S OTHERS. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. SO WE MOVE ON TO OCTOBER. 
          YEAH. OKAY, SO OCTOBER, NO OVERLAP. THERE IS A FREMONT LIAISON MEETING ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 7TH. NOVEMBER, THERE'S NO OVERLAP OR ISSUES, AND WE HAVE, I HAVE THE ACSDA. I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, HOW THE BOARD ATTENDS THAT. 
          THE CCSDA MEETINGS, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL, SO THE NEXT ONE IS THIS MONDAY, SO I HAVEN'T ADDED THOSE TO THIS BECAUSE, AGAIN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW BOARD MEMBER. 
          YEAH, SO I CAN JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ALAMEDA COUNTY SPECIAL DISTRICTS. IT IS ACTUALLY REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF, UM, A MEMBER OF OUR BOARD WANTED TO BE ON THE ALAMEDA COUNTY LAFCO, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WOULD BE THROUGH OUR ALAMEDA COUNTY SPECIAL DISTRICTS CHAPTER. 
          UM, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT COME THROUGH AC- SDA. 
          SDA. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THE ACRONYM CORRECT. SO I THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ON HERE. 
          IT'S VERY HELPFUL. I BELIEVE, UM, DIRECTOR WAESPI IS OUR APPOINTEE FOR ACSDA IN TERMS OF WHEN THERE'S A VOTE THAT COMES UP, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GOING TO BE THE APPOINTEE TO THE LAFCO COMMITTEE, AND THEN I BELIEVE I'M THE ALTERNATE FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK FOR CONTRA COSTA COUNTY, THESE ARE OUR TWO. 
          AND I DO BELIEVE ALAMEDA COUNTY CHANGED THEIR DATES. I THINK 2026, IT'S WEDNESDAYS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GO BECAUSE IT CONFLICTS WITH COMMITTEE, BUT 2027, THEY'RE MOVING IT TO MONDAYS. 
          JOHN AND I ALWAYS TRY TO GO TO THE CONTRA COSTA. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL BE GOING MONDAY. 
          HMM? MON- IT'S, UM, NEXT MONDAY IS THE CONTRA COSTA'S. DO YOU WANT ME TO FORWARD YOU THE EMAIL? UM, I THINK IT'S ON MY CALENDAR. 
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OKAY, PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DECEMBER, THERE'S NO OVERLAP. 
          THE ONE THING I DID IS JUST PREEMPTIVELY MOVE THE PAC MEETING FROM DECEMBER 27TH TO DECEMBER 20TH, JUST AS A PLACEHOLDER, BECAUSE TYPICALLY DECEMBER 27TH, THAT WEEK IS USUALLY LIGHT FOR A STAFF-LEVEL. SO I HAVEN'T TAKEN IT TO PAC OR ANYTHING YET, BUT JUST TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE HOLIDAYS, SCHEDULING, TRAVELING, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          OH, THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S ANOTHER WEEK IN THE SOUTHERN HEM- HEMISPHERE. 
          YEAH. AND AGAIN, NO OVERLAP. 
          THE, UM, I DID PREEMPTIVELY MOVE THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS FROM WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 8TH TO THURSDAY, DECEMBER 9TH TO ACCOMMODATE THE EMPLOYEE HOLIDAY LUNCH BECAUSE SO MUCH STAFF INVOLVEMENT GOES INTO THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT THE ENTIRE CLERK'S TEAM WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND; BOARD MEMBERS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND. 
          SO THE PAC MEETING IN DECEMBER, WHERE, WHERE IS THE HOLIDAY DINNER? THAT I DON'T TRACK. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE IT SCHEDULED FOR 2026 YET. YEAH, THIS IS 2027. 
          IS IT POTENTIALLY THE SAME—THEY, MAYBE THEY DON'T MEET? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR; I'M TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IT ON THE CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          THAT WOULD BE IT. 
          THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THE 20TH. 
          HOLIDAY LUNCH. 
          ONE, I CAN ASK ELSA. I HAVEN'T EVEN— NO, IT'S DECEMBER 20TH, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A PAC MEETING, USUALLY THE HOLIDAY. 
          IT'S, IT'S USUALLY IN THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER. 
          OKAY. I WILL REACH OUT TO, UH, GOV AND LEDGE BEFORE. 
          AND THAT IT TRADITIONALLY IS THE PAC IS THE DECEMBER MEETING. 
          MEETING FOR THAT MONTH. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T BE ON THE— IT WOULDN'T BE THE 20TH. 
          IT WOULDN'T BE ON THE 20TH. 
          OKAY, GOOD TO KNOW. SO I WILL REACH OUT TO GOV AND LEDGE AND WORK WITH THEM. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK IT MAKES SENSE, AGAIN, TO SCHEDULE THIS 12 MONTHS IN ADVANCE, YEAH. 
          SO THEN YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO RUSH AT THE END TO FIND A DATE THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. 
          I'LL SHARE ONE THING THAT KELLY AND HER TEAM'S DONE THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL IS WE USED TO HAVE, LIKE, THE LIAISON MEETINGS AND DIFFERENT BOARD-RELATED MEETINGS SCHEDULED BY DIFFERENT TEAMS WITHIN THE DISTRICT, LIKE EACH ONE SORT OF UNIQUE, AND THERE'S STILL DIFFERENT PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THEM, BUT KELLY IS CONNECTING THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO ALL OF THEM. THAT WAY THERE'S SORT OF A ONE-STOP SHOP FOR YOUR BOARD TO BE CONNECTED WITH IT. SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, THANK YOU. UM, REAL QUICK, I DO WANT TO GET TO THE DECEMBER BUDGET MEETING THAT WE USUALLY HAD IN THE EVENINGS. I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG, UM, THAT WAS A MAJOR PROPOSAL BY OUR PREVIOUS COLLEAGUE, BOARD COLLEAGUE, UM, DEE ROSARIO. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THAT IN 2027. MAYBE WE MAKE A DIFFERENT DECISION IN 2028, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY SEE THE EVENING DECEMBER BUDGET MEETING. 
          DECEMBER 7TH, YOU WANT AN EVENING MEETING? BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN, THAT'S JUST ME AS ONE INDIVIDUAL. 
          WELL, ANECDOTALLY, FOLLOWING THIS OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, IT, IT, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WE DON'T GET A GREAT TURNOUT BY REASON OF HAVING AN EVENING MEETING. 
          THAT'S JUST MY ANECDOTAL OBSERVATION. 
          AND, AND, AND I THINK THE ZOOM AC- ACCESS AVAIL- YOU KNOW, AVAILABILITY KIND OF CHANGES IT TOO. 
          RIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW. 
          BUT, BUT ALSO IN THE EVENINGS, AT LEAST IT WOULD BE AFTER WORK HOURS. 
          YEAH. YEAH. SO IT JUST BY ZOOM AS WELL, WE'RE NOT GETTING GREAT NUMBERS. 
          WELL, I, SO, SO ONE, ONE THING I MENTIONED BEFORE, I THINK WE ARE STARTING TO MAINTAIN A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING OUR AGENDAS, BUT I THINK THERE'S EVEN MORE OUTREACH WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO IN TERMS OF LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHEN WE HAVE OUR BOARD MEETINGS, AND IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO, UM, CONSIDER AND DISCUSS. I KNOW, UH, OR IT IS MY OPINION, ZONE 7 DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF ALWAYS SENDING OUT AN EMAIL BEFORE BOARD MEETINGS TO THEIR LIST, UM, NOTIFYING PEOPLE OF BOARD MEETINGS AND HOW TO PARTICIPATE. AND I KNOW THAT WE, WE MAINTAIN A LIST HERE, BUT I THINK LAST TIME I CHECKED, WE HAD ONE PERSON ON THE LIST. I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE EXPANDED TO MAYBE 20. 
          I THINK WE'RE UP TO ABOUT 20, AND SO ANYTIME THE CLERK'S OFFICE EMAILS THE AGENDA TO THE BOARD, THAT LIST GETS THE SAME AGENDA EMAIL, SO THEY ARE NOTIFIED. 
          BUT THERE MAY BE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, A- A- AND I KNOW WE'RE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF OUR DATABASE MANAGEMENT, UM, PROGRAMS HERE AT EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING TO INCLUDE IN ONE OF OUR NEWSLETTERS, UM, TO SAY, "HEY, DID YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE BOARD THAT MEETS TO TALK ABOUT PARK DISTRICT ISSUES? HERE'S THE MEETING; YOU CAN JOIN US." ONE OF THE THINGS PER THE NEW SB 707 DOES REQUIRE MORE OUTREACH, AND SO I'M WORKING WITH OUR, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA TEAM. I HAVEN'T REALLY ROLLED IT OUT YET. I WAS GONNA KIND OF ROLL IT OUT AS LIKE A JANUARY ITEM, NEW CHAMBERS, NEW THINGS, BUT POST A PICTURE ON SOCIAL MEDIA OF LIKE THE DAIS, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH LIKE A GAVEL OR SOMETHING, AND THEN WE HIGHLIGHT WHATEVER THE HOT TOPIC ACTION ITEMS ARE FOR THAT AGENDA, AND THAT GOES OUT WHEN WE PUBLISH THE AGENDA. 
          THEN WE POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT SAYS, HEY, OUR BOARD MEETING IS, YOU KNOW, TUESDAY, DECEMBER 7TH, 5 P.M., 1 P.M. HERE'S THE 
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ITEMS. AND THEN BECAUSE I DO KNOW WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD, ROBUST, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM, SO I THINK THAT IS THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN GET THE AGENDAS OUT THERE. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EVENING MEETING, IT SHOULD BE A BUDGET ISSUE. 
          SO IF, IF, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, UM, FINE WITH DOING THAT DECEMBER 7, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I'M JUST ANECDOTALLY SUGGESTING WE DON'T. 
          I THINK YOUR ANECDOTES ARE CORRECT THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD THE ATTENDANCE IN THE PAST, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'VE ALSO DONE THE OUTREACH WE COULD BE DOING, AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING ABOUT THE SENATE BILL REQUIRING MORE OUTREACH. SO MAYBE WE KEEP THE EVENING MEETING FOR DECEMBER 2027 AND SEE OKAY. 
          HOW THE OUTREACH WORKS OR DOESN'T WORK. 
          I CAN EVEN START THE OUTREACH THIS YEAR WHEN WE PUBLISH THE DECEMBER EVENING MEETING PACKET, PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT CAN BE OUR FIRST GO-ROUND, AND WE CAN DO WE WANT MORE EVENING MEETINGS, AND IF SO, WHAT SHOULD THE, UM, TOPICS BE? I- I- I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT JUST RANDOMLY PICKING 2 MONTHS OKAY. 
          TO- TO- TO DO THAT. IT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT A PROPONENT OF THESE EVENING MEETINGS FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE AGREEMENT. 
          IN- INCLUDING, UM, COMMUTING AND, AND SUCH. UM, AND I DON'T THINK WE GET A BETTER TURNOUT. 
          I THINK, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ATTEND AND WATCH US CAN DURING THE DAY BECAUSE IT'S PART OF WHAT THEY DO, UM, AND, AND MAYBE DON'T IN THE EVENINGS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO HOME. 
          SO I'M NOT A BIG PROPONENT OF EVENING MEETINGS, BUT IF WE DO THEM, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT THEY BE, UM, A, A PARTICULARLY, UM, IMPORTANT. SO THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. 
          MY RECOMMENDATION IS LET'S KEEP THE DECEMBER BUDGET EVENING AND SEE HOW INCREASED OUTREACH MAY OR MAY NOT WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR ANECDOTAL HISTORY MAY PROVE TO BE TRUE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE, WE GET TO THAT POINT. 
          YEAH, SO LET'S SKIP THE COMING UP WITH RANDOM EVENING MEETING DATES. 
          OKAY, THAT WORKS FOR ME. 
          MY RECOMMENDATION, WHEN WE HAVE THE COMMITTEE ALTERNATIVES, THOUGH, MM-HMM. 
          MAYBE SOME LATER AFTERNOON START TIMES, BECAUSE I DO, I, I HAVE HEARD FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE WHO AREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TO OUR DAYTIME MEETINGS, AND THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE MEETING, AND IT MAY BE BY ZOOM, MAY NOT ALWAYS BE IN PERSON. SO IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR BOARD MEETINGS IN THE EVENINGS, ASIDE FROM THE DECEMBER BUDGET MEETING, MAYBE IF WE HAD A FEW MORE 2 OR 3 OR 4 P.M. START TIMES WHEN WE'RE EXPLORING ALTERNATIVES FOR THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THAT MAY BE AN OPTION TO POTENTIALLY APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE, WHO HAVE DIRECTLY SHARED WITH ME THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE, UM, AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE DONE SOME THINGS LIKE HAVE THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AS WELL FOR OUR BOARD MEETINGS. THAT HELPS TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE AT 1:00 P.M. 
          TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, KNOWING THAT WE'LL HAVE A LATER SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT. AND, UM, YES, ANECDOTALLY, I THINK IT WAS USED FOR THE FIRST TIME AT YESTERDAY'S BOARD MEETING THIS YEAR, UM, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING EFFORTS TO SHOW THAT WE ARE AVAILABLE, AND WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE TAKE US UP ON THAT AVAILABILITY IS UP TO THEM. 
          WE SHOULD GO THROUGH HER LIST. 
          OKAY, SO THERE'S A LIST THAT COLIN WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH: THE, THE, THE TABLE. WHAT PAGE NUMBER IS THAT? NUMBER 5? I JUST WANT TO GET NOW TO HER MORE GENERIC YEAH. 
          QUESTIONS. 
          I THINK WE GOT THROUGH SOME OF THESE, BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH SOME. 
          YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THE TABLE UP HERE, BUT I DO THINK WE COVERED MOST OF THEM, SO I CAN PULL IT UP SEPARATELY. 
          WELL, LET ME SEE. YOU HAVE NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES. DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE TIME? AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS 1 P.M. 
          I WAS JUST ASKING IF WE WANT TO ALIGN IT WITH THE OTHER COMMITTEES, BUT I THINK THE FEEDBACK IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING WAS IT'S FINE AT 2 P.M. 
          AND IT SEEMED TO FIT, SO. 
          CORRECT. AND I DON'T, I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS JUST TO CHANGE THINGS. 
          OKAY, SO THAT ANSWERS THAT ONE. 
          YEAH, PERFECT. 
          OFF-SITE MEETING LOCATIONS. 
          IT DOES—ARE THERE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? I THINK AT ONE POINT YOU AND I, KELLY, HAD A CONVERSATION 
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ABOUT ARDENWOOD, BUT THEN WHEN WE HAD THE FREMONT LIAISON MEETING, I THINK IT WORKED FOR THE FREMONT LIAISON MEETING. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD WORK FOR A BOARD MEETING. 
          I, YEAH, DEFINITELY NOT IN THE GRANARY. THAT WAS WAY TOO SMALL TO HAVE A BOARD MEETING. 
          SO, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, AND I CAME UP WITH TWO POSSIBILITIES. ONE IS SAN RAMON, AND ONE IS DANVILLE. NOTICE THEY'RE IN A LINE. THEY'RE RIGHT ALONG THE IRON HORSE TRAIL. I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO PROVIDE A VENUE FOR FOLKS TO COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT THAT ISSUE, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG ISSUE IN THE DISTRICT. SO THAT'S JUST MY, I MEAN, THERE M- THERE MAY BE OTHER, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME, YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING STAFF FOLKS TO, TO WEIGH IN, AND THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO ADD MY IDEA AS TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE, AND, AND WE COULD MAYBE MEET IN ONE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR SOMETHING THERE, ONE OF THOSE TWO SOUNDS CITIES GOOD. 
          IN TOWN. 
          YEAH, I, I HAVE A FEELING, UM, CITY MANAGER AT SAN RAMON, WHO LIVES IN LIVERMORE AND IS A NICE PARTNER FOR THE PARK DISTRICT, MIGHT BE WORTH REACHING OUT TO ABOUT THE SAN RAMON CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 
          I HAPPEN TO BE GOOD FRIENDS WITH THEIR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, SO. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR PREFERENCE AS TO ONE OF THE, EITHER ONE OF THOSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO MAKE IT, I WOULD KEEP IT FLEXIBLE, BUT THAT'S MY SUGGESTION ON THAT. 
          SO, THE OTHER OPTION. 
          YEAH, I HAVE TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR CONTINUING THE LONG TRADITION OF, UH, HAVING A BIG BREAK MEETING IN JUNE. 
          UH, PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE USED TO IT. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOREVER, UM, SINCE THE, UM, INCEPTION OF, UH, I'M OR THE ANNEXATION OF BRENTWOOD AND, UH, AND OAKLEY. 
          BUT SO THE REASON PEOPLE ASK, WHY DO YOU GUYS MEET IN AT BIG BREAK? UM, AND, AND THE MONTH DOESN'T, UH, AS, AS MUCH AS MATTER, BUT IT'S TRADITIONALLY BEEN WHEN WE DO IT. THE ANSWER HAS BEEN WHEN IN THE '80S THE PARK DISTRICT SOUGHT TO AND SUCCEEDED IN ANNEXING, UH, THE WHAT IS BY BOUNDARY THE LIBERTY UNION HIGH SCHOOL, UM, DISTRICT BOUND. THOSE ARE THE BOUNDARIES THAT INCLUDE BRENTWOOD, OAKLEY, BETHEL ISLAND, UH, AND, AND ENVIRONS. 
          UM, BASICALLY WE MADE A PROMISE THAT WE'D HOLD BOARD MEETINGS OCCASIONALLY OR ANNUALLY OUT THERE, AND THAT'S WHY WE DO THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN WRITING, UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE EVER SINCE THAT, THAT INCORPORATE THAT ANNEXATION. 
          AND WE'VE ALSO ADOPTED THE EAST COUNTY ASSESSMENT DISTRICT THING. 
          LLD, THE LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE. 
          THAT LANDSCAPE DISTRICT. 
          WE ALWAYS AT THAT MEETING, SO IT MAKES IT CONVENIENT FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THERE TOO, SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON. 
          I, SO I THINK IT, IT BOTH HISTORICALLY AND, UH, LOGISTICALLY, IT'S EASIEST PLACE FOR US TO GO, UH, IN THAT REGION, RIGHT, OF OAKLEY, BRENTWOOD. 
          SO I WOULD BE AN ADVOCATE FOR CONTINUING, UM, BIG BREAK, UH, AS ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, AND... 
          ABSOLUTELY. NO, I THINK BIG BREAK. 
          HISTORICALLY, IT'S BEEN JUNE. 
          I THINK BIG BREAK'S A REALLY IMPORTANT MEETING, AND I LIKE THAT WE DO THE LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE DISTRICT VOTE AT BIG BREAK. I, I REALLY LIKE THAT A LOT, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALWAYS HAVE THAT BIG BREAK MEETING. I MEAN, ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT BIG BREAK IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE, PERSONAL FAVORITE PARKS, AND I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT US BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SACRAMENTO-SAN JOAQUIN DELTA. I ALSO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THE LLD VOTE IN BIG BREAK. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF FUTURE FOR THIS DISTRICT OUT THERE, AND WE'RE NOT SHY ABOUT THIS. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO SOMEDAY ASK THOSE FOLKS TO, UM, PAY A PROPERTY TAX. THEY, THAT HELPS US. YEAH. SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A PRESENCE OUT THERE. 
          OKAY. UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF OTHER LOCATIONS, SO I THINK MAYBE SAN RAMON CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS COULD BE A REALLY, UH, PROMISING LOCATION AND/OR DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WHICH IS RIGHT AT 580-680 INTERCHANGE, AND IT WOULDN'T BE BOTH, SO ONE OR THE OTHER, UM, BUT I THINK THAT THOSE COULD BE SOME PROMISING OPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW I THINK WE'VE COVERED ALL OF YOUR, YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH FEEDBACK. 
          EXCEPT FOR EXCEPT FOR. 
          ONE ADDITIONAL THING THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT? UH-OH. 
          UM, NO, UH, ABOUT THE LIAISON MEETINGS OR WHATEVER WE YEAH. 
          CALL THESE THINGS. I'M, I'M NOTICING THERE'S A GEOGRAPHIC, UM, DISPARITY THERE. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE... I, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO DO THOSE MEETINGS; WE CAN'T DO EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME, BUT WE'RE MISSING SEE CONTRA 
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COSTA WATER DISTRICT, CITY OF CONCORD, AND CONTRA COSTA COUNTY, WHICH ARE BIG PARTNERS WITH US. 
          SO HISTORICALLY, WE'VE HAD THOSE MEETINGS, YEAH. 
          YES, WE HAVEN'T DONE THE COUNTY AND ON IN, WE DIDN'T DO IT THIS YEAR. 
          UM. 
          SO, SO REAL QUICK. 
          CONTRA CITY OF, EXCUSE ME, CONTRA CONCORD HAS THURGOOD MARSHALL REGIONAL PARK HOME WITH THE PORT CHICAGO 50. WE NEED TO STAY ENGAGED WITH THE CITY THERE. SO, UM, AND, AND THEN, UH, CONTRA COSTA COUNTY, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO, WE NEED TO WORK, PARTNER WITH THEM ON SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE. SO I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE RATIONALE IS FOR CHOOSING THE ONES THAT ARE THERE NOW. 
          I ACTUALLY WANT TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK ON THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, AND I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF OUR BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES, AND I BELIEVE YOU ARE CORRECT THAT, UM, CONTRA COSTA COUNTY, I BELIEVE, IS LISTED THERE. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT, BUT, BUT SOME OF THE AGENCIES YOU'RE DESCRIBING ARE THERE, AND SOME ARE NOT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND SO I DO THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE THAT, UH, THAT THAT IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BUT I WILL SHARE THAT, UM, FOR SOMETHING LIKE CITY OF FREMONT, IT ACTUALLY IS A REQUIREMENT FOR US, UH, AS PART OF OUR AGREEMENT FOR ARDENWOOD, BECAUSE CITY OF FREMONT OWNS ARDENWOOD, YEAH, YEAH. 
          THAT WE MEET WITH CITY OF FREMONT TWICE A YEAR. 
          YEAH, OKAY. 
          AND, AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I THINK IT MIGHT BE ON HERE. 
          SURE. 
          UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOME OF THE OTHERS, AND THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE, ARE IN OUR BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES THAT AREN'T ON THIS LIST. LIKE, I KNOW I'VE SEEN CONTRA COSTA COUNTY ON THERE, AND THEN YESTERDAY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CONTRA LOMA WITH CCWD, I THINK THAT COULD BE A REALLY HELPFUL LIAISON MEETING TO TRY TO HAVE SCHEDULED. SO IT ALSO MIGHT BE THAT SOME OF THESE ARE MORE AS NEEDED, AND SOME ARE REQUIRED BASED ON AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          RIGHT, AND THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, IT'S ONLY 2, 2 BOARD MEMBERS. IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S NOT CRAZY TO TRY TO SCHEDULE THAT AFTER THE FACT. YOU CAN DO IT 3 MONTHS FROM NOW OR WHATEVER. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON THIS CALENDAR, BUT... 
          WELL, I CAN SHARE. I MEAN, I THINK THE ONES THAT ARE HERE ARE JUST AS I'VE, LIKE, CONNECTED WITH DIFFERENT CITY MANAGERS MM-HMM. 
          AND FOLKS WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WE WANT TO RESTART DOING THESE LIAISON MEETINGS. I'M LIKE, GREAT, AND LOOP KELLY AND HER TEAM IN, AND WE START WORKING ON IT. 
          AND SOME OF THE OTHERS WE PROBABLY JUST HAVEN'T CONNECTED WITH. SO I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS LIKE, WE'RE TAKING NOTES ON WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING RIGHT NOW. WE CAN LOOK BACK AT THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES AND JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE, I THINK SCHEDULING AHEAD IS SUPER HELPFUL, AND WE CAN JUST LIKE SCHEDULE AS MANY AS WE CAN OUT THROUGH THE YEAR, AND, UM, YEAH, HOPEFULLY THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, A GOOD AMOUNT TO, LIKE, GET GOING, AND AS YOUR BOARD WORKS ON THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES, IF THERE'S MORE YOU WANT TO ADD. I MEAN, I CAN SHARE, I WAS TALKING TO AMY ABOUT IT YESTERDAY, AND SHE'S LIKE, IT SEEMS REALLY RANDOM WHAT CITIES AND ENTITIES ARE INCLUDED HERE VERSUS WHICH ONES AREN'T. LIKE, SHOULD, IS THERE SOME WAY TO BE MORE CONSISTENT ABOUT IT? AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, I THINK LIKE SOME OF THESE THAT WE HAVE THEM WITH ARE AND ARE CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN JUST LIKE CLOSELY ENGAGED WITH THIS, THE DISTRICT OVER TIME, BUT OR REQUIRED BECAUSE OF AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE, BUT I THINK LIKE ARDENWOOD. 
          IT'S A GREAT OR WE DO BUSINESS WITH THEM ALL THE TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK, ANYWAY, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT WITH YOUR BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING. 
          AND, AND THE THING ABOUT CONCORD IS IT ISN'T RANDOM. 
          AS OF AUGUST, JULY OR AUGUST, THEY HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER NOW, AND SO IT'D BE REALLY GREAT TO HAVE A, A MEET, AT LEAST A MEET-AND-GREET KIND OF THING WHERE WE GET TO KNOW WHO HE IS AND, AND, UH, HE GETS TO KNOW US, AND SO, SO THAT'S ONE ANOTHER PITCH I WOULD MAKE FOR CONCORD BEING IN THERE. 
          THERE ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THE CALENDAR, IS, UM, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME IN JANUARY BECAUSE IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR, BUT THE INTERAGENCY, THAT INTERAGENCY GOVERNMENTAL LIST WHERE BOARD MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED, SO THE LIAISON COMMITTEES ARE INCLUDED IN THAT, AND ALSO SO THAT'S HASPA AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT WILL COME IN JANUARY, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF COINCIDES WITH THE CALENDAR, SO THAT WILL BE UPDATED, SO THEN WE CAN PUT... BECAUSE I, I KNOW THE ONES THAT I PULLED ARE FROM THAT LIST, AND I ALSO REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THE BOARD SECRETARIES OR COUNTIES, COUNTY CLERKS, AND SO THE CONTRA COSTA COUNTY ONE WASN'T INCLUDED BECAUSE I THINK THEY LAST MET IN 2023. 
          HOWEVER, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE FINE ADDING WHATEVER AGENCIES YOU WANT TO WORK WITH AS LONG AS THE OTHER CITIES ARE AMENABLE TO MEETING WITH THE BOARD. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH WHICH ONES WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS. 
          CORRECT. I BELIEVE ARDENWOOD, I KNOW ARDENWOOD HAS THE MOU THAT REQUIRES TWICE A YEAR. 
          YEP. NO, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW IT LAPSED FOR TWO YEARS, AND IT WAS, IT WAS ACTUALLY A POINT OF CONTENTION HERE AT EAST BAY. 
          YEAH, WHICH IS, YEAH, WHY WE'RE REIMAGINING THEM. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, AND MAYBE IF POSSIBLE, I KNOW WE'RE, WE ARE GOING TO BE EMBARKING ON THIS BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES UPDATE, BUT MAYBE WE CAN, UM, WE'LL LOOK AT THE AGENDAS FOR OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER FOR THIS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, BUT MAYBE THAT, THAT SECTION OF THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES WHERE WE HAVE THE LIAISON MEETINGS MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO GO THROUGH, AND WE CAN ALSO MAYBE PUT AN ASTERISK ON THOSE THAT ARE REQUIRED, AND THEN THOSE THAT HAVE THE 
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HISTORICAL CONNECTION, AND THEN THOSE THAT, IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE LIST BUT MAYBE SHOULD BE, LIKE, WE, WE, WE CAN TRY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION JUST TO KIND OF GET AHEAD OF THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LONG, LONGER CONVERSATION THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT WE CAN START DOING NOW. 
          LET'S OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          OKAY, SO WE'LL CLOSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK FOR ANY FINAL COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD. THIS IS ALSO AN ACTION ITEM, SO LET ME SEE WHAT'S THE, UM... 
          I THINK THE ACTION IS KIND OF JUST MOVE IT FORWARD AS AMENDED TO THE BOARD. 
          OKAY. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UM, DIRECTOR COFFEY TO MOVE AS AMENDED FORWARD TO THE BOARD, POSSIBLY WITH SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS WHEN THE BOARD REVIEWS THIS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECONDING ALL THAT. 
          OKAY, SECOND FROM DIRECTOR MERCURIO. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THAT PASSES 3-0. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT, SO I THINK THIS WAS A REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION. THANK YOU, KELLY, FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER AND FACILITATING. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT 2027 WILL BE, YOU KNOW, IN A MUCH, UM, MORE, UH, DEFINED PLACE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE NEED TO PUT IN SOME FLEXIBLE OPTIONS, IT WON'T FEEL LIKE A SCRAMBLE, BUT FEEL MORE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THESE MEETINGS SCHEDULED, AND LIKE I SAID, DOESN'T FEEL AS MUCH OF A SCRAMBLE. WE'LL SEE. UM, ANYWAY, SO NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX, PROPOSED FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, I DID HAVE ONE THAT I 
          [Proposed Future Agenda Items]
MENTIONED LAST TIME, AND WE DO HAVE A FINAL PRESENTATION FROM, UM, THE VISIT TRI-VALLEY ORGANIZATION ON REGIONAL TRAILS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS, UM, THE TOURISM BUREAU FOR, UM, FOR, FOR ALAMO, DANVILLE, AND CONTRA COSTA COUNTY, AND THEN, UH, PLEASANTON, DUBLIN, LIVERMORE, ALAMEDA COUNTY. AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, GREAT TO HAVE THAT AT A FUTURE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING. SO I'LL WORK WITH KELLY AND MAX TO SEE IF AND WHEN THAT MAKES SENSE, UM, TO, TO LOOK AT THAT. AND THESE, THESE ARE FOR, YOU KNOW, LONGER REGIONAL TRAIL CONNECTIONS, WHICH I KNOW IS SOMETHING THAT DIRECTOR MERCURIO IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT. UM, PLUS WITH ALAMO AND DANVILLE BEING PART OF WARD 6, I WOULD THINK THERE'D BE SOME INTEREST AS WELL. SO, UM, STAY TUNED FOR THAT PROPOSED FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROPOSED FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I THINK MAYBE ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE LIAISON COMMITTEES AND THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES, WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WHEN WE HAVE ROOM IN THE AGENDA NOW. WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO DO THAT AS PART OF THE FACILITATED BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, TO GET THE BALL ROLLING A LITTLE BIT ON LIAISON COMMITTEES. 
          UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER? MAX, I'M, UM, CURIOUS ABOUT ALL THE MACHINATIONS GOING ON WITH POINT MOLATE AND WHETHER IT WOULD BE UNREASONABLE AT SOME POINT TO HAVE AN UPDATE. UM, WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE CITY OF RICHMOND THAT HAVE DEVELOPED. WE HAVE OUTSIDERS INVOLVED WITH TRYING TO GET CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, UH, OVER THE UPLAND, UH, AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS CON- CONTEMPLATED INCORPORATING INTO A PARK, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO DEAL WITH AND NEGOTIATE WITH THE CITY OF RICHMOND. SO I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH, UM, UH, WINEHAVEN, AND WE'RE NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR, YOU KNOW, SECURITY AND OVERSIGHT OF THE TENANTS THERE. UM, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH, UM, THIS MARVELOUS BAY TRAIL THAT WE'RE B- ALMOST, I'VE WALKED ABOUT HALF OF IT. IT'S, IT'S INCREDIBLE. UM, AND IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETE. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE START, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT OPENING A PARK? WE'RE PUTTING A, WE'RE PUTTING A TRAIL RIGHT THROUGH, UM, IN FACT, ONE OF THE MOST, UH, UM, A- ATTRACTIVE AREAS OF THAT PARK, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL POINT MOLATE WHERE THE PIER GOES OUT. 
          AND SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WANDERING, GETTING OUT THERE. WE'RE ESSENTIALLY OPENING IT WITH THE COMPLETION OF THIS TRAIL. SO ALL OF THAT IS A LOT OF DYNAMICS, AND I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT IT AND WHETHER AT SOME POINT, UM, WE COULD HEAR ABOUT IT. WE HAD A PROJECT DIRECTOR, AND I THINK YOU'VE SHIFTED THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE. UM, SO. 
          YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. WE CAN WORK ON PUTTING THAT ON AN UPCOMING AGENDA. WE'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK AROUND POINT MOLATE, SO I THINK I WAS 
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JUST OUT THERE LAST WEEK WITH ONE OF THE TRIBES AND THEN HAD A MEETING THIS WEEK WITH A NUMBER OF THE PARTNERS WHO ARE INVOLVED THERE, SO YEAH. 
          IT'S, UH, VERY BUSY ON POINT MOLATE STUFF, SO I THINK THAT SOUNDS GREAT TO BRING AN UPDATE TO YOUR COMMITTEE. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA? NO, I 
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DON'T. ITEMS? OKAY, SO THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE FOR AGENDA ITEM 7? UM, I, I MENTIONED IT YESTERDAY, BUT WE DO HAVE OUR BOARD SITE TOUR FRIDAY AT, AND WE START AT CONTRA LOMA, AND THEN WE GO TO BIG BREAK. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK TODAY'S MEETING AND YESTERDAY'S MEETING WERE HELPFUL IN PREPARATION. UM, IF THERE AREN'T ANY FURTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS. AND WE'RE DOING DUTCH SLOUGH? YES, WE ARE ON FRIDAY. OH, IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN THERE, JUST WAIT AND SEE. IT'S INCREDIBLE. OKAY, SO THEN WITH THAT, WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
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