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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OPERATIONS COMMITTEE OF THE EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT FOR AUGUST 12TH TO ORDER. THE MEETING IS HEREBY. WELL, THE MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER AT 1:02 P.M..
MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL? DIRECTOR DESCHAMBAULT.
PRESENT. DIRECTOR SANWONG. HERE. CHAIR ECHOLS.
HERE. ALL PRESENT. OKAY, SO I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR
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MINUTES. THE MINUTES OF MAY 13TH AND JUNE 10TH.THANK YOU. AND THEN I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN. YOU'RE FILLING IN.
OKAY. I WILL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS. ABSTENTIONS? YEAH. OKAY. SO TWO FOR AND ONE ABSTENTION.
ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? IF I MAY. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT EITHER IN PERSON OR VIA ZOOM.
THOSE ATTENDING VIA ZOOM MAY USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED WHEN IT IS THEIR TURN TO SPEAK.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE PROVIDED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
WE HAVE NO. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND WE HAVE NO ACTION ITEMS TODAY.
SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. FIRST UP IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY QUARTERLY.
MY APOLOGIES. IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY JUST RAISED THEIR HAND.
CAN WE. OKAY, SURE. ALL RIGHT. MR. ABREU, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
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CAN YOU HEAR ME? TODAY THERE IS A FANTASTIC PRESENTATION COMING UP WITH DETAILED DATA.INFORMATION. REAL, REAL INFORMATION ABOUT ACTIVITY OF THE PARK DISTRICT STAFF, PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF.
BUT SINCE THIS IS THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, EXPAND THAT THAT KIND OF NOTION THAT WHAT THEY DID IS THEY SHOWED DEMAND FOR SERVICE AND THEY MAPPED IT OUT OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS.
AND WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT, THEY THEY ALLOCATE THEIR THEIR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, BY MAPS, BY REGIONS, BY TRADITIONAL HEADCOUNTS, BY PARK, BY WHATEVER.
BUT THAT'S NOT HOW SERVICE SHOULD BE ALLOCATED.
IF YOUR OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT HAD, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS LIKE YOU KNOW, BUSINESS MANAGEMENT [INAUDIBLE] WHERE ARE YOUR DEMAND FOR SERVICES COMING FROM, YOU WOULD KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE VISITING YOUR PARKS, YOU WOULD KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE TO FILL UP THE GARBAGE CANS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE TO YOU KNOW, PARK PARKING YOUR PARKING LOTS.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE TO HIKE ON THE TRAILS? AND YOU WOULD CORRELATE THAT WITH YOUR SERVICE PROVISION.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE AS WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE WITH THE, WITH THE CHARTS AND SLIDES AND DATA COMING UP FROM YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THAT LEVEL OF SOPHISTICATION IN YOUR OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE IS NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT, MR. ABREU.
AND WE WILL THEN MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY QUARTERLY CRIME REPORT, NUMBER TWO.
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WELL. GOT THE INTRODUCTION ALREADY. SO, LIEUTENANT BEN GUZMAN, REGIONAL PARKS POLICE.THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND OTHER DISTRICT EMPLOYEES AND THE WEB OUT THERE.
SO THE PRESENTATION GOALS FOR TODAY, WE TRY TO BE ACCESSIBLE AND TRANSPARENT AS PART OF OUR PRESENTATION TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION AND SEE SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE. WE CAN BE TRANSPARENT TO THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC THROUGH THIS MEETING, AND ALSO SHOW SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE, AND ALSO MAYBE GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE.
THERE'S TONS OF THINGS WE DO BEYOND WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS REPORT THAT AREN'T MAKING IT HERE TODAY.
AND WE'RE ALWAYS FREE TO REACH OUT TO US FOR MORE SPECIFICS.
BUT THIS IS JUST A BROAD OVERVIEW AND IT'S INFORMATIONAL ONLY.
SO WHERE DO WE GET OUR DATA FROM? FIRST, OUR DATA SOURCE COMES FROM OUR CAD SYSTEM, OUR COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM, AND OUR RECORDS INFORMATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WE USE THE CAD SYSTEM AND OUR COMPUTER SYSTEMS TO DOCUMENT CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR POLICE, FIRE AND OPERATIONS. WE USED TO IMPLEMENT CRIME ANALYSIS.
WE SEND INFORMATION OUT TO OFFICERS USING OUR MOBILE CAD SYSTEM AND WE MAP LOCATIONS.
WE ALSO TRACK EVIDENCE AND PROPERTY TO TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DIGITALLY, AS MUCH AS WE CAN, TO SAVE PAPER. IN QUARTER TWO, WE HAD MANY INCIDENTS, SO WE HAD TO DEFINE WHAT THAT IS FIRST.
SO AN INCIDENT IS ANY EVENT THAT REQUIRES A DISPATCH OF A POLICE OR FIRE UNIT.
IN Q2 OF 2026, WE HAD 5409 DISPATCHED INCIDENTS.
THAT'S NEARLY IDENTICAL TO LAST YEAR'S QUARTER TWO, WHERE WE HAD 5530 INCIDENTS.
ON THE WEEKENDS OF THIS YEAR FOR Q2, THAT WAS ABOUT 33% OF TOTAL INCIDENTS OCCURRED ON THE WEEKENDS.
ABOUT HALF OF OUR INCIDENTS OCCURRED BETWEEN 11 A.M.
AND 7 P.M., AND THEN 20% OF INCIDENTS OCCUR BETWEEN 10 P.M.
AND 5 A.M. WHEN WE HAVE TECHNICALLY, THE PARKS ARE CLOSED AND YOU HAVE CURFEW VIOLATIONS, BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE OTHER ACTIVITIES AS WELL ALARM CHECKS, THINGS LIKE THAT. CAMPGROUND CHECKS AS WELL. OF THE OVER 5000 DISPATCH INCIDENTS, ABOUT 2481 WERE CALLS FOR SERVICE, WHICH MEANS EXTERNAL REQUESTS FOR, REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE, AND A LITTLE OVER 2900 WERE OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITIES.
OF THOSE TOTAL INCIDENTS, 371 WERE TRAFFIC STOPS.
IT INCLUDES 887 VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN STOPS, AND THE VEHICLE STOPS HERE COULD BE PARKED VEHICLES AS OPPOSED TO THE FIRST NUMBER WAS VEHICLES ARE BEING DRIVEN. AND THEN THE LAST NUMBER 782 DIRECTED PATROLS.
THOSE. WHEN WE SEND OFFICERS TO PLACES FOR SPECIFIC ISSUES TO ADDRESS A CRIME PATTERN OR PROBLEM, WE DO HAVE PATROLS THAT GO OUT THERE TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC ISSUES. CITATIONS.
IN Q2, WE HAD 1775 CITATIONS. THAT ENCOMPASSES A BROAD RANGE OF CITATIONS.
WE DEFINE A CITATION IS A OFFICIAL NOTICE TO APPEAR AT COURT RELATED TO A CRIMINAL CHARGE OR INFRACTION, USUALLY ISSUED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
OF ALL THE CITATIONS ISSUED, 23 WERE MISDEMEANORS, 365 WERE ORDINANCE CITATIONS.
229 WERE OTHER INFRACTIONS, AND WE HAD 158 PARKING CITATIONS.
THOSE GENERALLY DO INCREASE AS WE GO FROM WINTER INTO SPRING AND THEN TO SUMMER.
IN Q2, WE HAD SEVERAL ARRESTS. WE DEFINE ARREST.
AN ARREST AS A SEIZURE OF A PERSON BY LEGAL RESTRAINT IN RESPONSE TO A CRIMINAL CHARGE.
THAT'S WHEN AN OFFICER STOPS SOMEBODY, ISSUES THEM A CITATION TO GO TO COURT AT A LATER TIME IN LIEU OF A PHYSICAL ARREST, AND THE OFFICER HAS DISCRETION TO MAKE THAT PHYSICAL ARREST TO JAIL OR GIVE THEM A CITATION.
IT'S STILL CONSIDERED AN ARREST. IT'S JUST A CITE AND RELEASE, ARREST.
THEN THERE IS A CUSTODIAL ARREST WITHOUT A WARRANT.
SO THAT'S A CUSTODIAL RESTRAINT, PLUS TRANSPORT PURSUANT TO MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY CHARGES.
AND THERE'S ALSO AN ARREST PURSUANT TO AN OUTSTANDING WARRANT.
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IN Q2, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 87 ARRESTS. OF THOSE, 64 WERE MISDEMEANOR AND 23 WERE FELONY ARRESTS.OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THE 87, 24 WERE RELATED TO OUTSTANDING WARRANTS.
IN 2026 Q2, WE HAD ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER ARRESTS, BUT THE WARRANTS WERE ABOUT HALF WE HAD LAST YEAR.
SO ARRESTS ARE ACTUALLY THE ON VIEW CONTACT ARREST FOR CRIME ARE CATCHING IN PUBLIC AT THE CURRENT TIME WAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN LAST YEAR'S TOTAL NUMBER FOR THE WARRANTS. IN Q2, WE HAD SEVERAL CASES, AND A CASE IS A WRITTEN REPORT BY AN OFFICER OR A PUBLIC SAFETY TECHNICIAN TO DOCUMENT AN EVENT.
AND WE USE THESE REPORTS TO DOCUMENT CRIME FOR THE DA TO PROSECUTE A CASE AND A SUSPECT.
IN Q2 OF 2026, WE HAD 437 CASES. OF THOSE, 109 WERE RELATED TO FELONY EVENTS, 107 WERE RELATED TO MISDEMEANOR EVENTS, AND WE HAD 18 THAT INVOLVED VEHICLE COLLISION REPORTS.
SO A LOT OF NUMBERS SO FAR. SO WE CAN PUT ACTUAL INFORMATION TO THE NUMBERS.
WELL HERE ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM QUARTER TWO. WE HAD ONE ARREST FOR ARSON.
WE HAD TWO ARRESTS FOR PAROLEES CAUGHT RE-OFFENDING.
WE HAD EIGHT ARRESTS FOR DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE, THREE ARRESTS FOR FLEEING FROM THE POLICE IN A MOTOR VEHICLE, AND FOUR ARRESTS FOR SEX CRIMES OR PUBLIC NUDITY.
THAT KIND OF PUTS A FACE ON SOME OF THE STUFF VERSUS JUST THE NUMBERS. SOME OTHER HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE THAT PATROL LOCATED, IDENTIFIED AND ARRESTED AN ARSON SUSPECT NEAR THE SCENE OF A CRIME, PATROL LOCATED AND ARRESTED A SUSPECT WHO BROKE INTO A PARK OFFICE.
AS YOU LIKE TO SAY, CRIME NEVER STOPS, AND NEITHER DO WE.
TWO THINGS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THE REPORT IS THAT WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL CALLS, STARTING IN Q2 FOR UNPERMITTED EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY AT CROWN BEACH. WE DID RESPOND TO THOSE.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING WITH ALAMEDA TO KEEP THE PARK SAFE DOWN THERE.
WE'VE ALSO SPENT SIGNIFICANT TIME DOING SPECIAL EVENTS FOR EDUCATION AND OUTREACH ON THE IRON HORSE TRAIL AND OTHER REGIONAL TRAILS FOR BIKE RELATED ISSUES, ESPECIALLY THE E-BIKE PROBLEM, AND DO A LOT OF EDUCATION ENFORCEMENT ON THAT.
IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY AWARE WE HAVE AN ONLINE SYSTEM, CITIZEN RIMS ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO LOG IN, GET UPDATES ABOUT CURRENT CRIME THAT'S GOING ON IN THE PARKS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE REPORT, LIEUTENANT GUZMAN.
BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? SEEMS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I SUPPOSE YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY, I GUESS I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THIS DATA INFORMATION.
AND I WONDER IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO BUILD A DASHBOARD ONLINE WHERE YOU CAN THEN SEE QUARTER BY QUARTER, SOME OF THE CHANGES, AND THEN ALSO THEN BE ABLE TO COMPARE TO THE PREVIOUS YEARS. SO ALL THE DATA YOU PRESENTED HERE WOULD JUST BE KIND OF UPLOADED IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE COULD, COULD SEE IT RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO THROUGH.
EACH SLIDE AS THIS IS PRESENTED QUARTERLY, THAT COULD BE OF INTEREST.
I'M NOT SURE ACTUALLY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR CITIZEN RIMS. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IT THAT WAY. YEAH. AND IT MIGHT EVEN ALREADY AUTOMATICALLY BE IN CITIZENS RIMS. IT MIGHT JUST BE A MATTER OF KNOWING HOW TO PULL UP THE REPORT. SO THAT WOULD BE ALSO INTERESTING TO JUST TRY AND DO, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THESE SOFTWARE TOOLS, LIKE CITIZEN RIMS, TRY TO OFFER THAT KIND OF FEATURE.
YEAH, HOPEFULLY NOT FOR AN ADDITIONAL COST. YEAH.
YEAH, I KNOW EXACTLY. BUT OTHERWISE I JUST THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW.
AND THEN I SUPPOSE I ALWAYS LIKE TO MENTION THIS.
SO GOING BACK TO THE INCIDENTS AND HOW THOSE ARE DEFINED FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHEN WE HAVE YOU KNOW, A CAMPSITE CHECK AT DEL VALLE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT GETS COUNTED AS AN INCIDENT.
AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS A CAMPSITE CHECK? IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE CAMPSITE ARE REGISTERED TO BE AT THAT CAMPSITE.
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IS IT TIME FOR US TO GO USUALLY ABOUT 10:00 WHEN THE PARKS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE QUIET HOURS AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE IN THE PARK BY THEN AND THE GATE SHOULD BE CLOSED, MAKE SURE ONE EVERYONE'S THERE WHO SHOULD BE THERE, PEOPLE WHO AREN'T THERE SHOULD PROBABLY LEAVE NOW. IT'S TIME TO GO. ALSO, MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S FOLLOWING THE RULES AND ORDINANCES SO GENERATORS ARE TURNED OFF. DEMONSTRATED GENERAL PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU KNOW, AS EVERYONE GETTING ALONG AS THINGS GOING WELL. SO GIVE US A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE PARK, GO THROUGH THE CAMPGROUND, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL ADEQUATELY PATROLLED AND GOOD FOR THE NIGHT WHILE PEOPLE GO TO BED AND, YOU KNOW, JUST DOING THE CHECKS AND THEN LOCK THE GATES AS NEEDED AND MAKE SURE IT'S A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. EXCELLENT.AND THEN I KNOW I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A RIDE ALONG ON 4TH OF JULY, ALONG WITH OUR ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER, LISA GOORJIAN, TO BOTH SHADOW CLIFFS AND DEL VALLE.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE Q3 REPORT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS ENDS AT THE END OF JUNE. BUT I SUPPOSE WITHIN THIS TIME PERIOD WE'RE LOOKING AT WE DID HAVE MEMORIAL DAY AND AND I KNOW SOMETIMES ON MEMORIAL DAY, WE LIKE TO HAVE OFFICERS MAKE SURE TO STOP AT SOME OF OUR MORE POPULAR PARK SITES AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S HAVING A GOOD TIME AND ENJOYING THE PARK AND NOT GETTING INTO FIGHTS OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF SITUATION THAT COULD ESCALATE.
SURE. SO ALL THAT INFORMATION JUST IN THE DATA AS A WHOLE, WE DIDN'T SEPARATE OUT OR PARSE IT OUT.
WE TRIED TO GIVE YOU GUYS JUST A GENERAL UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN Q2.
YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC. WE'RE A PARK DISTRICT POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE HAVE THE SAME CRIME AS EVERYWHERE ELSE. YOU KNOW, CRIME DOESN'T STOP AT THE GATES, AS WE SAY. SO WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THE PARK, WE UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A GOOD TIME.
BUT OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THE PARK DISTRICT IS AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
SO THE DATA IS IN HERE. IT'S JUST A TOTAL DATA.
I COULDN'T PULL IT OUT. YOU GIVE ME SOME TIME. I COULD PROBABLY FIND SOME THINGS, BUT THE HOLIDAYS ARE GENERALLY ARE BUSIER, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA SEE A LOT MORE CALLS FOR SERVICE BETWEEN THE NORMAL DAYTIME HOURS, A LOT LESS DURING 10 P.M.
TO 5 A.M. WE STILL GET CALLS THOUGH THEN, ESPECIALLY DURING HOLIDAYS, PEOPLE ARE OUT, STAYING LATE, DOING THINGS, NOT GOING BACK HOME, SETTING OFF FIREWORKS, WHO KNOWS AFTER 10:00.
BUT WE'RE STILL OUT THERE. BUT THAT ALL THAT DATA IS COLLECTIVELY IN THE Q2 REPORT FOR MEMORIAL DAY.
AND IN TERMS OF PARK OPERATING HOURS, WE DO HAVE LATER HOURS DURING THE SUMMERTIME COMPARED TO WINTER TIME AT SOME PARKS? I KNOW THAT'S THE CASE FOR SHADOW CLIFFS. SO THE PARKS CLOSE AT 10 P.M.
FOR CURFEW, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN PARKS THAT MIGHT CLOSE EARLIER FOR PARKING ISSUES, BUT PEOPLE CAN STILL WALK IN AND FISH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO AFTER TEN, WE'LL DO OUR CHECKS ANYWHERE WE GO ANYBODY'S IN THE PARK, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS, SUCH AS LATE NIGHT FISHING AT CROWN BEACH, WHERE YOU CAN BE THERE 24/7 SEVEN. IT'S A SHORELINE, SO YOU CAN STILL FISH THERE AS LONG AS THEY'RE ACTIVELY FISHING.
YOU CAN'T JUST SET YOUR POLE AND WALK AWAY, YOU KNOW, HALF A MILE AND SAY YOU'RE STILL THERE FISHING. THAT DOESN'T QUITE QUALIFY. AND THEN I GUESS MY FINAL QUESTION, SINCE THIS IS REALLY INFORMATIVE. SO THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY ALONG MORRISON CANYON ROAD NEXT TO VARGAS PLATEAU IN TERMS OF PARKING, AND I WAS WONDERING HOW SOME OF THAT MIGHT ROLL UP INTO THIS DATA BECAUSE YOU DID MENTION SOME PARKING CITATIONS OR MAYBE SOME EXTRA OFFICERS ON SITE. I THINK I SAW, I DON'T HAVE THE SLIDES IN FRONT OF ME, BUT SOMETHING ABOUT LIKE TRAFFIC.
YEAH. WE HAD, I THINK LET ME PULL BACK UP HERE.
WE HAD. 1100 PARKING CITATIONS IN Q2, WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON AS YOU GO FROM WINTER INTO SPRING AND THEN SPRING INTO SUMMER, A LOT OF PEOPLE FIND THE PARKS, THEY FIND GOOD DAYS TO GO HIKING. WE GET INUNDATED WITH WITH PEOPLE COMING OUT. AND SO WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT PARK ACCESS.
BUT SOMETIMES, NO MATTER HOW MANY SIGNS YOU HAVE, PEOPLE STILL PARK IN RED ZONES IN PLACES THAT ARE DANGEROUS, THAT ARE FIRE HAZARDS, THAT BLOCK ACCESS AND THEY GET A CITATION.
SOMETIMES WE'LL TOW VEHICLES. WE HAVE TO IN EMERGENCY TO MAKE SURE FIRE CAN GET THROUGH OR WE NEED TO GET THROUGH. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE CAN KIND OF DO SOME EDUCATION WITH THE PARKING THROUGH A CITATION, AND THEY LEARN NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.
VARGAS IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE'VE WORKED WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES, FREMONT AND ALAMEDA COUNTY, TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOME BETTER SIGNAGE AND WORK WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW, OUR BLACK AND WHITE POLICE CARS ARE OUT THERE SHOWING THE PUBLIC, HEY, WE'RE HERE. THIS IS NOT JUST A BACK ROAD THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT. UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE NOT THERE TO BE MEAN. WE'RE THERE ACTUALLY TO MAKE SURE ACCESS IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE NEIGHBORS AND ALSO TO THE PUBLIC.
SO IF THEY HAVE A NEED, WE CAN GET TO THEM AND HELP THEM FOR WHATEVER NEED THEY HAVE.
GREAT. DIRECTOR DESCHAMBAULT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A, I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION I'M INTERESTED,
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QUESTION WOULD BE IS TYING THIS BACK TO OUR BUDGET DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE.I KNOW WE'VE MADE A LOT OF APPROVALS ON CAD TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. WE'RE SEEING THAT HERE IN YOUR REPORT. AND I'LL DOUBLE UP ON THE EARLIER PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT IT'S, IT'S THE SPECIFICITY THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED HERE IS REALLY WONDERFUL, WHICH OF COURSE JUST MAKES ME ASK QUESTIONS.
LIKE, I'M ALSO CURIOUS, LIKE YOU KNOW, TO SEE 23 FELONIES IN A PARK SYSTEM.
IT'S LIKE IT MAKES YOU WONDER, LIKE, WELL, WHAT KIND OF FELONIES ARE GOING ON IN THE PARKS? AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. ALSO WHEN ALL THESE CITATIONS HOW MANY ARE CONTESTED? LIKE DO OUR OFFICERS SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING TO COURT? ARE YOU GUYS BEING CHALLENGED BY, BY SOME OF THESE, LIKE THE, SOMETIMES I, YOU KNOW, I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL IN, IN, IN MORAGA A LOT OF TIMES IT WAS ALMOST NOT WORTH DOING THE CITATIONS BECAUSE THEN IF YOU GOT TO SHOW UP WHEN THEY CONTEST THEM, ARE YOU RUNNING INTO SOME OF THAT? ALSO, I DON'T HAVE THE DATA IN FRONT OF ME.
I CAN GIVE YOU JUST COMMON KNOWLEDGE. WE DON'T SEEM TO GO TO COURT.
I DON'T THINK AS MUCH AS MAYBE OTHER CITIES DO.
A LOT OF TIMES THE PARKS, I LIKE TO THINK WE'RE VERY CONSIDERATE OF PEOPLE.
IF I CATCH YOU FOR ONE VIOLATION, I'M NOT GOING TO WRITE YOU A TICKET.
BUT A LOT OF TIMES WE CATCH PEOPLE USUALLY FOR DOING TWO, THREE, FOUR THINGS WRONG.
I'M GOING TO CITE YOU FOR THIS ONE ORDINANCE VIOLATION, BUT NOT THE OTHER ONES YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN DOING. WE COULD EASILY CITE THEM FOR EVERYTHING, BUT THAT'S NECESSARILY THE SPIRIT OF EDUCATION.
IF YOU GIVE ONE CITATION, YOU PROBABLY EDUCATE THEM ENOUGH BECAUSE FOUR VIOLATIONS VERSUS ONE, THE EDUCATION IS PROBABLY STILL THE SAME. SO WE DO TRY TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
I FIND THAT WHEN I GIVE CITATIONS, WHICH I STILL DO AT TIMES, IS THAT WHEN I GO TO COURT, IT'S EASY TO ARTICULATE TO THE JUDGE THAT I GAVE THEM A WARNING FOR THIS, THIS AND THIS AND CITED THEM FOR THIS.
AND SO PEOPLE LEARN RIGHT AWAY IT'S THE PARK DISTRICT THEY VERY SERIOUS. WE TAKE THINGS SERIOUS FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, FOR THE PUBLIC USERS. AND SO WHEN WE WRITE A CITATION, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW UP IN COURT. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET DISMISSED. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT FROM START TO FINISH AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S COMPLETED.
SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE OFFICERS GOING TO COURT ALL THE TIME.
THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO GO TO COURT AND CONTEST IT.
AND SO I CAN'T QUITE TELL HERE IF THAT'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, 1% OR 10% WHEN YOU'RE PULLING OVER, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN BETWEEN PARKS AND YOU SEE A WEAVING AND YOU STOP SOMEONE FOR DUI OR A STOLEN CAR.
BUT I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT. AND THEN I, I DON'T KNOW IF I, HOW MUCH I EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER THEM, BUT ALSO I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT SINCE WE'VE GOTTEN FULLY STAFFED, EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBERS FROM YEAR TO YEAR, IT SEEMED LIKE THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS HADN'T INCREASED ABOUT 5000.
BUT AT WHAT POINT DID WE FULLY STAFF YOU GUYS UP AND DO WE EXPECT A COMPARABLE AMOUNT OF INCIDENTS? WE GOT MORE OFFICERS, MORE INCIDENTS, MORE CONTROL OVER OVER TIME.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DATA. AND, AND I MEAN, ARE WE'RE WE'RE FORCE MULTIPLIERS OUTSIDE THE PARKS IS ONE THING I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT OUR OUR YOUR TEAM. YEAH, YEAH. SO I CAN ANSWER A LOT OF THINGS.
YOU JUST SAID THE INSTANCE OUTSIDE THE PARK VERSUS IN.
WE DO STOP THINGS FROM GOING FROM PARK TO PARK.
OBVIOUSLY OUR OFFICERS IN GENERAL DON'T STOP EVERY LITTLE MINOR TRAFFIC VIOLATION.
BUT IF I'M DRIVING THE FREEWAY LATE AT NIGHT AND SOMEONE'S DUI, I'M GOING TO PULL THEM OVER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S JUST IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IT'S ALSO THE THING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET HOME SAFE AND WE GET HOME SAFE AND THE PUBLIC GETS HOME SAFE. BUT OUR OFFICERS ARE VERY GOOD AT MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. WE WE TRUST THEM. WE GIVE THEM A LOT OF INFORMATION, KNOWLEDGE AND TRAINING TO HELP GUIDE THEM OF WHEN THEY SHOULD MAKE THOSE STOPS OUTSIDE THE PARK. AND A LOT OF CITATIONS WE GIVE ARE PARK ORIENTED.
YOU KNOW, WE DO MAKE STOPS OUTSIDE THE PARK. AGAIN, WE HAVE DISCRETION WHAT WE DO.
SO IF WE STOP SOMEONE FOR POSSIBLY DUI, BUT THEY END UP THEY'RE PLAYING ON THEIR PHONE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY GET A CITATION, RIGHT? MAYBE IF YOU WORK FOR THAT CITY, THEY WOULD. BUT FOR US NOT NECESSARILY.
WE HAVE SUPERVISORS OUT THERE TALKING TO THEIR OFFICERS, TRAINING THEM, WORKING WITH THEM. SURE, MAKE THAT STOP. BUT THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A CITATION IF IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE PARK DISTRICT, THAT'S OUR PRIMARY GOAL. GOING BACK TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION OF, I FORGOT THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION. OH, STAFFING. STAFFING.
ARE WE INCREASING THE INCIDENTS? AND WE PROBABLY WILL INCREASE INCIDENTS OVER TIME, I WOULD BELIEVE.
BUT ONE THING WE'RE SEEING IS WE GET MORE OFFICERS IS THAT WE HAVE THE TRAINING TIME.
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SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY SEE THE NUMBERS INCREASING FOR PATROL ON THE STREET UNTIL SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR AFTER THE FACT.SO I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHEN THE ACTUAL DATE OF FULLY STAFFING WAS.
HOWEVER, KEEP IN MIND THAT AS WE DO HAVE FULL STAFFING, WE'RE GOING TO START PUTTING PEOPLE IN POSITIONS THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN FILLED BEFORE, MIGHT HAVE TAKEN AWAY FROM. IF THOSE AREN'T PATROL FOCUSED, YOU MIGHT NOT SEE THOSE NUMBERS INCREASE IN INCIDENTS BECAUSE OUR GOAL HAS BEEN KEEP PATROL STAFFED PATROLS NUMBER ONE. SO IF WE'RE SHORT OF DETECTIVE AND WE FULLY STAFFED, PUT THEM BACK IN THAT UNIT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A NUMBER OF INCIDENTS INCREASE BECAUSE PATROL DIDN'T DIDN'T CHANGE, BUT OUR OTHER STAFFING GOT FILLED BACK UP.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE DETAIL. APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THE WORK AND THE REPORTS. VERY, VERY SUCCINCT AND VERY SPECIFIC.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NICE JOB. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.
SO IT WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SEE THE NUMBERS JUMP.
SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING TO SEE THE NUMBERS GO UP.
WE WOULD RATHER PEOPLE JUST STOP DOING THE ACTIONS THAT THAT ARE NOT THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.
YOU AND ME BOTH. YES, ABSOLUTELY. I DID ALSO HAVE.
OH, WAIT, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH. OKAY.
I HAD A QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS ONE ARREST FOR AN ARSON SUSPECT NEAR THE SCENE, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS, IS, WAS THAT SOMEONE WHO HAD ALREADY LIT A FIRE OR WAS THAT OR WAS I WAS YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW THE CASE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I BELIEVE I KNOW THE CASE. I COULD BE INCORRECT, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMEONE WHO HAD, WE HAD A FIRE IN THE PARK, I THINK IT WAS ANTHONY CHABOT AND A SUBJECT WAS LOCATED WHO CONFESSED TO THE CRIME.
SO THANK YOU. AND WITH THE MOST RECENT ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, MORE STAFFING, MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATION YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOME OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS ON THE IRON HORSE TRAIL WITH MULTI USERS. I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE OUT THERE ALONG THE TRAIL, BUT MAYBE YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT PRODUCING VIDEOS THAT COULD BE UPLOADED TO A PLATFORM LIKE YOUTUBE AS WELL AS LIVE ON OUR WEBSITE, COULD ALSO BE HELPFUL TO HAVE TO HELP EDUCATE FOLKS ABOUT WHAT'S ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED ON THE IRON HORSE TRAIL AS A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE.
AND THEN THE OTHER AREA I THOUGHT OF FOR SOME REASON WHEN DIRECTOR DESCHAMBAULT WAS ASKING ABOUT BUDGET, IT REMINDED ME OF A CONVERSATION I HAD RECENTLY.
I, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE TO HAVE INCREASED PATROLS AT SUNOL REGIONAL PARK AND MOSTLY TO FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT ALAMEDA CREEK AND NOT ALLOWING FISHING OR REMOVAL OF ENDANGERED SPECIES WITHIN THE CREEK. AND SO I'M CURIOUS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND MAYBE HOW IT FITS INTO SOME OF THESE REPORTS.
AND MAYBE I NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH CITIZEN RIMS AS WELL, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'D ALSO BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF WE COULD PUT TOGETHER SOME SORT OF TIME SERIES DASHBOARD. BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, I WAS AT SUNOL REGIONAL A COUPLE TIMES THIS SUMMER, AND ONE TIME WHEN I WAS THERE, THERE WAS A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE WAS BRINGING A NET INTO THE PARK, WHICH YOU'RE NOT REALLY ABLE TO DO MUCH WITH A NET INSIDE OF SUNOL REGIONAL, AT LEAST WITHIN OUR RULES AND ORDINANCE 38, AND PARTICULARLY IN REGARDS TO NO FISHING AND NO CATCHING OF ENDANGERED SPECIES.
SO I'M CURIOUS IN REGARDS TO THE, YOU KNOW, INCREASED PATROLS AND THE AGREEMENT WITH SAN FRANCISCO FIRST REGIONAL, YOU KNOW, HOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT MIGHT ADDRESS THAT TYPE OF SITUATION.
IF YOU SEE A PERSON WALKING INTO THE PARK WITH A NET.
IT. YEAH. EVERY CRIME OR INCIDENT OR DETAIL WE GET CALLED TO IS SPECIFIC.
I GET WE GET THESE QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME. POLICE OFFICERS, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF THIS HAPPENED OR THIS HAPPENED? AND I'LL BE HONEST, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE EXACT TIME OF DAY AND ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT SPECIFIC CASE.
BUT IN GENERAL, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SF WATER.
WE HAVE AN OFFICER WHO'S ASSIGNED THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY, AND WHEN WE'RE NOT ASSIGNED THERE, WE'LL STILL TAKE DETAILS FROM THEM FOR NORMAL PATROL, GO DOWN THERE AND RESPOND. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAVE TO TAKE THE NATURE OF THE CALL WHAT IT IS. IS THERE A CRIME OCCURRING? IS IT A CRIME FOR SOMEONE TO JUST BE CARRYING A NET PERIOD? PROBABLY NOT, BUT WE COULD STILL GO DOWN THERE AND TRY TO TALK TO THEM, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
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YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHERE TO GO, WHAT COULD BE A PROBLEM IN THE NEXT 5 OR 10, 15 MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD. SO WE DEFINITELY GET DISPATCHED.A LOT OF CALLS, ONES JUST LIKE THAT, OR MAYBE CRIMES OCCURRING YET AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL.
BUT IT MIGHT BE WE'RE GOING TO START AN OFFICER THAT WAY, TRY TO MAKE CONTACT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE GENERALLY IT DOES LEAD TO SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT NOT BE A CRIME RIGHT NOW, BUT WILL BE A CRIME IN 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR FROM NOW.
IF WE CAN GET THERE AND ADDRESS IT BEFOREHAND, GREAT. IF WE GET THERE AND ADDRESS WHEN IT'S HAPPENING, THAT'S ONE LESS CALL FROM THE PUBLIC THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. IT'S ONE LESS CALL FROM US RESPONDING DOWN THE ROAD TO CRIME WHEN IT'S OCCURRING, INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING IT BEFORE IT HAPPENS OR GETS WORSE.
YEAH, I THINK BACK TO THE EDUCATION IDEA, ALSO BEING ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WHY WE DON'T ALLOW FISHING ALONG ALAMEDA CREEK AND WHY IT'S JUST NOT AN OPTION.
SO THANK YOU. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE CANAL TRAIL IN FREMONT? IT'S YOU KNOW, THE WATERWAY THERE. IT'S VERY ENTICING.
BUT IF YOU'RE A FISHERMAN, IT'S VERY ENTICING TO GO SEE THOSE BIG FISH DOWN THERE. OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? WE DO.
MR. ABREU. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO POINT YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT INCIDENT MAP.
AND YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED WITH JUSTICE AND LAW AND ENFORCEMENT AND ALL THAT.
THERE'S THIS BUILT IN ASSUMPTION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A GROWING, A GROWTH IN THE INDUSTRY.
WE WERE EXPECTING INDUSTRIAL GROWTH. WELL IN THE LAST YEAR, ACTUALLY, SINCE THE PANDEMIC, CRIME HAS DROPPED A LOT. IN FACT, YEAR OVER YEAR CRIME NATIONALLY AND IN CALIFORNIA, SERIOUS CRIME DROPPED LIKE 20%.
SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT BE OUT LOOKING FOR A LOT MORE CRIME.
I'D BE LOOKING FOR LESS CRIME TO BE HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY IF ALL THE SERIOUS CRIMES ARE GOING DOWN.
OF COURSE WE DON'T SEE THAT IN THE DATA HERE, BUT THERE'S ONLY A FEW ARRESTS.
IF YOU A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THERE, BUT VERY FEW INCIDENTS ARE BEING REPORTED THERE.
WAS THERE A CRIME WAVE GOING ON? FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
I DOUBT IT. YOU KNOW WHY I DOUBT IT? BECAUSE THERE'S NO THERE'S HARDLY ANYTHING GOING ON THERE NOW.
SO WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAPPENED AT MISSION PEAK? WHAT? PERHAPS THAT WASN'T REALLY A CRIME WAVE.
PERHAPS IT WAS POLITICALLY DRIVEN. IT WAS A POLITICAL WAVE.
KIND OF LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING AT MORRISON CANYON ROAD IN VARGAS PLATEAU.
A LOT OF THOSE PARKING TICKETS ARE BEING GIVEN OUT OUTSIDE THE PARK.
RIGHT? AND WHAT KIND OF COMPLAINTS ARE COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE PARK? WELL, LET ME GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. NEWSPAPERS QUOTED THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR AS SAYING THAT THAT ROAD WAS NOT BEING MAINTAINED.
THERE WERE POTHOLES AND THE SHOULDERS WERE ARE DROPPING OFF AND THE SHOULDERS WERE BAD ENOUGH TO WHERE I SAW THAT THE DIRT AND THE YOU KNOW, THE, THE LITTLE CLIFF ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD MADE IT HARD TO PARK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, EVEN IN AREAS WHERE PARKING IS ALLOWED. SO THEN WHAT HAPPENED? WELL, IT TURNED OUT THAT THAT COUNTY SUPERVISOR WHO WAS POINTING AT THE CITY AND BLAMING THEM FOR NOT MAINTAINING THE ROAD.
WELL, ACTUALLY, IT WAS HIS PUBLIC WORKS AGENCY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTAINING THAT ROAD, AND IT WAS HIS FAULT THAT THE ROAD WASN'T GETTING MAINTAINED. SO THIS THIS KIND OF POLITICALLY DRIVEN, FINGER POINTING, PEOPLE CALLING IN INCIDENTS, A WAVE OF ENFORCEMENT FOR US.
AND IT'S, IT'S IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ALIGNED TO THE, TO THE REAL CRIME THAT'S GOING ON.
YOU SEE HELICOPTERS TAKING ROUTES OVER WHERE THE MOST CRIMES ARE HAPPENING.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO ASK.
YOU HAVE TO. AND LIKEWISE, WITH YOUR NEW PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS, YOU HAVE A WHAT? A 200 MILLION. 100 MILLION. I FORGOT HOW MUCH MONEY THAT THING'S COSTING.
SO IT IS IN A GOOD PLACE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY. NO OTHER NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. GREAT.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THIS IS A HELPFUL CONVERSATION. THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE REPORT. OKAY, SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE PROGRESS REPORT FOR THE INTERPRETIVE AND RECREATION SERVICES PROGRAM. AND HERE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM IS DIVISION LEAD OF INTERPRETIVE AND RECREATION
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SERVICES, SANDI FUNKE.GOOD AFTERNOON. SO I'M GOING TO BE DOING AN UPDATE TODAY ON OUR I&R PROGRAMS EVALUATION PROJECT.
AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO SHARE WHAT WE'RE UP TO.
SO THIS IS DOCTOR NICOLE JA, AND SHE IS THE PRINCIPAL FOR MIGHTY CATALYST.
AND SO SHE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO JUST A QUICK AGENDA. HOW ARE OUR PRESENTATIONS GOING TO GO TODAY.
AND KIND OF WANTED TO START BECAUSE I AM AN INTERPRETER WITH A LITTLE METAPHOR.
SO I'M SURE MANY OF YOU ARE GARDENERS. I'M A GARDENER.
I TEND TO THINK OF PROGRAM EVALUATION, LIKE TENDING A GARDEN.
SO RATHER THAN GOING TO THE NURSERY, SPENDING ALL OUR MONEY, BUYING SEEDS, BUYING PLANTS, THROWING EVERYTHING OUT THERE KIND OF RANDOM AND WILLY NILLY, EFFECTIVE GARDENERS REALLY TAKE THE TIME TO OBSERVE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR GARDEN.
THEY LOOK AT WHERE THE SUNLIGHT FALLS, NOTICING WHICH PLANTS ARE THRIVING, WHICH MAY NEED ATTENTION, WHICH MAY NEED TO COME OUT AND IDENTIFYING WHERE THE SOIL NEEDS SUPPORT.
SO THOSE INSIGHTS HELP SHAPE YOUR NEXT STEPS IN THE GARDEN, WHAT TO NURTURE, WHAT TO ADJUST.
AND IT HELPS CREATE, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS FOR A STRONGER, MORE RESILIENT GARDEN.
SO WHAT DO WE HAVE GROWING IN OUR IN OUR GARDEN? WELL, THESE ARE ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. AND ON THIS SLIDE, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL THE LIST OF OUR PLANTS.
SO THESE ARE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAM CATEGORIES.
YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE CALL THE WRITTEN PROGRAMS, THE PUBLIC PROGRAMS. THEY'RE AMAZING. AND THEY'RE ONE OF LIKE TEN DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DO.
SO THIS IS SORT OF THE LANDSCAPE WHEN WE THINK OF OUR EVALUATION, WHAT WE'RE EVALUATING.
AND I KNOW THIS MIGHT BE TAKING A FEW STEPS BACK, BUT I DID REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS THIS.
WHY DO WE DO PROGRAMS? WHY DO WE PLANT THESE SEEDS? BECAUSE WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW, TO FEEL SOMETHING MEANINGFUL, OR TO BE INSPIRED TO ACT.
SO I HAVE THREE JUST KIND OF SIMPLE EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD BE LEARNING OUTCOMES FOR OUR PROGRAMS. PEOPLE HAVE FUN. PEOPLE NOW KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT MAYBE HOW WE'RE MANAGING FUELS OUR RESOURCES.
MAYBE IT'S ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACT BY CERTAIN CREEKS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SWIM IN THEM.
SO THIS IS WHY WE DO PROGRAMS TO HAVE LEARNING OUTCOMES.
AND WHAT IS EVALUATION. I KNOW YOU ALL PROBABLY MANY OF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT JUST LIKE A THOUGHTFUL GARDENER WHO OBSERVES PLANTS AND MEASURES CONDITIONS, PROGRAM EVALUATION IS A SYSTEMATIC PROCESS OF COLLECTING AND INTERPRETING INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND HOW WELL OUR PROGRAMS ARE WORKING AND TO GUIDE DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE.
SO WHY DO WE WANT TO MEASURE LEARNING OUTCOMES? WE ALREADY COUNT THINGS, AND WITH OUR RESOURCE ALLOCATION STUDY, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE PERFECTING HOW WE COUNT THINGS COUNT PEOPLE THAT COME COUNT PROGRAMS. BUT WHY TAKE THIS EXTRA STEP TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES? WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND CLOSE TO MY HEART IS, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO EMPOWER THE TEAM.
BY EVALUATING OUR LEARNING OUTCOMES, IT HELPS COMMUNICATE OUR VALUE TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS, TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO OUR PARTNERS. UNDERSTANDING OUR LEARNING OUTCOMES IS GOING TO HELP US CONTINUE TO INVEST RESOURCES WISELY, ESPECIALLY AS WE STEWARD THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.
AND IMPORTANTLY, EVALUATION HELPS US ENSURE WE ARE REACHING ALL AUDIENCES EQUITABLY.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF THIS PROJECT.
SO THIS WORK BUILDS ON A REQUEST FROM THE BOARD TO BETTER UNDERSTAND OUR IMPACTS.
AND THIS WAS A STUDY THAT WAS PUT ON BY SAN FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY IN 2024.
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THAT WORK REALLY POINTED TO THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED A MORE IN DEPTH EVALUATION PLAN.SO LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME, WE APPLIED FOR AND DID LEARN WE WOULD BE RECEIVING A GRANT FROM THE REGIONAL PARKS FOUNDATION, AND THEY ARE FUNDING THIS WORK. AND THEN AT THE END OF LAST FALL, YOU APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH MIGHTY CATALYST TO GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH US ON THIS PROJECT.
OKAY. SO WHERE ARE WE NOW? SO EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE WORKED WITH THE ENTIRE I&R TEAM, INCLUDING FIELD STAFF, TO OUTLINE AND DELINEATE ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAM LEARNING OUTCOMES.
WE VETTED THESE OUTCOMES AND REFINED, WHICH WERE THE MOST SALIENT AND IMPORTANT BACK WITH THE STAFF, WITH OUR SUPERVISORS, WITH MANAGERS AND WITH OTHER COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
SO OUR LOGIC MODEL IS A ROADMAP THAT SHOWS HOW OUR PROGRAMS WORK, WHO WE REACH, AND WHAT CHANGES LOGICALLY WE HOPE TO SEE FROM OUR PROGRAMS. FROM THAT LOGIC MODEL COME KIND OF THE MEAT OF THE PROJECT, OUR EVALUATION METRICS.
MIGHTY CATALYST, ALONG WITH OUR I&R WORKING GROUP, WHICH HAS EVERYTHING FROM FIELD STAFF ALL THE WAY UP TO MANAGERS ON IT AND OUR SUPERVISORS HAVE BEEN REVIEWING AND LOOKING AT OUR DRAFT OF ALL OF OUR METRICS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING ABOUT TEN DIFFERENT METRICS TO MEASURE OUR LEARNING OUTCOMES.
AFTER WE PILOT THESE, WE'LL REFINE THE DEPLOYMENT PLAN, WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH OUR SUPERVISORS, OUR MANAGERS AND OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, AND WE EXPECT TO BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION FULLY IN 2027.
AND WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN BEST SHARE THESE RESULTS WITH YOU.
GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE REPORT AND FOR YOUR WORK.
THANK YOU. DO EITHER OF THE DIRECTORS HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY. YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR. I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD ME ASK OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ABOUT DASHBOARDS.
I ALWAYS APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOMEWHAT REAL TIME ACCESS.
I KNOW MAYBE IT TAKES SOME TIME TO DO UPDATES, BUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, I CAN GO AND ACCESS A SITE AND THE, THE HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE THERE.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ALSO NICE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THE FOUR OPTIONS HERE, A REPORT, A PRESENTATION, A POSTER SESSION, A BRIEFING THAT REQUIRES SCHEDULING.
AND AND SOMETIMES WITH THE DASHBOARD, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE LATE AT NIGHT.
I'M LIKE, OH, I'M SO CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE I&R TEAMS LEARNING OUTCOMES ARE AND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOG IN, YOU KNOW, AT 11 P.M. AND LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF DASHBOARD AND SEE IT.
AND THAT THAT COULD BE HELPFUL. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OPTION THAT'S NOT HERE AND PRESENTED HERE, BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, WITH THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, I KNOW THAT WE TYPICALLY DO HAVE A FORMAT WHERE WE WILL LOOK AT ALL OF THE VISITOR CENTERS AND I&R PROGRAMS BASED ON THE TWO YOU KNOW, UNITS OF I&R.
I KNOW WE'RE, FOR EXAMPLE, WORKING ON SOME NEW EXHIBITS AT COYOTE HILLS.
AND IT COULD BE INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE THIS UP AND RUNNING TO SEE WHAT KIND OF LEARNING OUTCOMES WE'RE ABLE TO EVALUATE AND UNDERSTAND HOW THE NEW EXHIBITS THERE ARE YOU KNOW, BEING EFFECTIVE AND BEING RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY WITH THE PROGRAMING.
SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
AND THEN I THINK IN TERMS OF REPORTING, I, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF REPORTS HERE AT EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE US START TO KIND OF BRING ALL THESE DIFFERENT REPORTS TOGETHER INTO MORE OF A SINGULAR REPORT.
SO WE'LL SEE. BUT MAYBE THE GOAL DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TO HAVE ONE STANDALONE REPORT ON THIS.
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SO TO SEE WHERE IT MIGHT INTEGRATE INTO SOME OTHER REPORTING THAT WE'RE DOING.THANK YOU. I GUESS ARE YOU, ARE YOU ACTUALLY ASKING ABOUT FEEDBACK ON THE EVALUATION PLAN ITSELF BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET RESULTS OF THAT EVALUATION PLAN? YOU'RE WHAT I WAS HOPING TO GET FEEDBACK ON IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GREAT DATA THAT WE'RE GATHERING TOGETHER THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPORT OUT.
AND SO I WAS ASKING, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY WE CAN SHARE THE RESULTS WITH YOU? I MEAN, FOR, FOR ME, ALWAYS, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M VERY INTERESTED IN IS ALIGNING IT WITH OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
AND THEN WE HAVE A THIRD STATEMENT IN THERE THAT WILL ALWAYS BE UNDERLINED BY ENVIRONMENTAL ETHICS.
SO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE DO THAT AND THE GOAL, HOW WE EVALUATE THAT, ARE WE REALLY BUILDING STEWARDS FOR THE NEXT SEVEN GENERATIONS TO PROTECT OUR PARKS? WHEN IT'S PRESENTED TO ME, LIKE, ARE WE REALLY ALIGNING WITH THOSE MISSIONS? AND WHERE I ASKED SOME OF THE QUESTION THE OTHER DAY, LIKE, GREAT, WE GOT THESE MOUNTAIN BIKERS.
I THINK ONE TIME IT CAME HERE, WE HAD A PUMP TRACK BICYCLIST.
BUT HOW CAN WE ALSO USE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT THE STUDENTS TO NATURE AT THE SAME TIME, TO MEET BOTH OUR GOALS? SO THEY'RE NOT JUST BOTH DIVIDED THAT, YEAH, YOU CAME OUT AND PATTED SOME SHEEP, BUT DID YOU ALSO LEARN ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND, AND WATERSHED USE AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SO AS YOU'RE EVALUATING IT, THE EVALUATION TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT TIES BACK TO THE, THE MISSION HELPS ME. AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, DOES IT TIE BACK TO THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR COMMUNITY? I THINK WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO IN, IN EQUITY YOU KNOW, AND YOU'LL HAVE A VERY DISTINCT TYPE OF GROUP THAT WILL COME OUT AND DO QIGONG, FOR INSTANCE, THAT MIGHT BE REACHING A COMMUNITY THAT WE MIGHT NOT NORMALLY REACH IF WE IN OUR EDUCATION PLAN HAVE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, THE MOBILE FISH TANK, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I WAS, I JUST FOUND OUT SPEAKING ON THE MOBILE FISH TANK THAT WE'RE DOWN TO JUST DOING LIKE TEN VISITS A YEAR WITH, WITH THAT.
AND I THINK WE WERE DOING ALMOST, ALMOST ONE A WEEK.
I WAS TOLD 50 A YEAR AND WE'RE DOWN TO TEN A YEAR, LIKE EVALUATING THE VALUE OF THAT FISH TANK VERSUS THE VALUE OF, YOU KNOW, SHEEP SHEARING AT ARDENWOOD. LIKE I'M JUST, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD FEEL OF A DIRECTOR AS A DIRECTOR OF WHICH ONES ARE REALLY ACHIEVING OUR GOALS. AND AS YOU SAID, MAYBE I'M A GARDENER, MAYBE THERE'S SOME THAT NEED TO GO, OR MAYBE THEY HAPPEN IN OTHER WAYS AT THE PARKS, OR MAYBE THEY HAPPEN ON THEIR OWN. AND MAYBE WE DO NEED MORE ABOUT WATERSHED AND CLIMATE AND DIVERSITY, AND REALLY RETHINK SOME OF THOSE CLASSES TO CAPTURE OUR MISSION, OUR GOAL OF BOTH, BOTH THINGS AT THE SAME TIME.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM STRUGGLING WITH IN THE PAST SURVEYS AND THINGS I REALLY THINK OUR USERS ARE CHANGING AND WE DON'T MEASURE WELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE WHO GOES OUT FOR A STROLL OR A MEDITATIVE WALK VERSUS A HIKER VERSUS A LONG DISTANCE RUNNER.
SO WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY EVALUATING THESE PROGRAMS DEMOGRAPHICALLY, BUT ALSO RECREATIONALLY, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE OVER TIME CHANGING, YOU KNOW, THE WORLD IS CHANGING.
AND HOW DO WE SEPARATE? BECAUSE I TALKED TO SOME, YOU KNOW, LONG DISTANCE RUNNERS WHO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE YOGA CLASS AND VICE VERSA. AND HOW DO WE REPRESENT THAT? I THINK YOU HAVE A BIG JOB IN FRONT OF YOU WITH TRYING TO DO AN EVALUATION PLAN OF A PARK THAT'S SO BIG, SO DIVERSE, AND WE DO SO MANY THINGS SO WELL.
HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT WHAT TO WEED? AND THEN WHEN CAN WE INSERT ADDITIONAL THINGS ON ON WATERSHED, MAYBE THAT A PROGRAM WE'RE ALREADY DOING. SO THOSE ARE ALL INTERESTS ME.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR WORK CUT OUT FOR YOU. AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PULL IT ALL TOGETHER, BUT I THINK. IT'S HAPPENING. DRIVING IT ALL BACK TO OUR MISSION IS ALWAYS MY GOAL.
AND STAFF REPORTS AND EVALUATIONS. ARE WE ACHIEVING OUR GOAL AND ARE WE SETTING UP THE NEXT GENERATION TO CARRY THIS ON? THANK YOU. AND I JUST DID WANT TO MENTION WE STARTED THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING LOGIC MODEL WITH THE MISSION.
THIS IS OUR VALUES. THIS IS WHERE EVERYTHING STARTED WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S ALL THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH STAFF.
START WITH THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING IT BECAUSE THAT'S ABSOLUTELY KEY.
I DO WANT TO CLARIFY TOO, THAT THIS PLAN, THIS, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY AMBITIOUS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST EVALUATE ONCE THE IDEA IS THE PLAN IS IN PLACE, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE CONTINUAL EVALUATION GOING FORWARD OF ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS.
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ONE MORE QUESTION AND SOME OF THE WORKSHOPS AND THINGS THAT WE DO.DO WE DO A BEFORE AND AFTER? LIKE I AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATOR, LIKE YOU ASKED, DO YOU KNOW WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT BIODIVERSITY MEANS? AND THEN YOU ASK IT AFTERWARDS.
I'M LIKE, OH, NOW I KNOW WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE AND BIODIVERSITY DO.
WE DO THAT? THANK YOU. SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME EVALUATION OF PROGRAMS AT THE DISTRICT.
HOPEFULLY, AND NOT TO GIVE IT AWAY, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE A DASHBOARD TOO.
HOPEFULLY WITH A DASHBOARD WITH DATA THAT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
SO SOME OF THAT HAS GONE ON, BUT GETTING OUR HANDS ON THAT DATA HAS BEEN DIFFICULT.
SO THE IDEA BEING WITH THIS IS THIS THE DATA WILL OUR OUR METHODOLOGY WILL BE TRUE EVALUATION AND THAT IT'S SYSTEMATIC AND THAT IT'S ALSO THAT THE DATA IS ACCESSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN SEE HOW WE'RE ACHIEVING OUR LEARNING OUTCOMES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE REPORT. FIRST I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EVALUATING THE PROGRAMS. AND THEN YOU DID MENTION, YOU KNOW, OUR PROGRAMS REACHING DEMOGRAPHICS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS.
AND ARE THEY TAKING AWAY, YOU KNOW, SORT OF DIFFERENT TAKEAWAYS.
BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, SO FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T CURRENTLY IN OUR PROGRAMS, ARE WE GOING TO BE EVALUATING THAT IN SOME WAY? LIKE WHAT WOULD INTEREST THEM AND HOW WE CAN BRING THEM INTO THE INTERPRETIVE PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY PART OF THE PROJECT, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MORE OF A MARKET ANALYSIS.
BUT THIS IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT DO COME TO PROGRAMS, BOTH THOSE THAT SIGN UP WHERE WE CAN, WE HAVE THEIR ZIP CODE AND PEOPLE THAT DROP IN TO AND EVEN PEOPLE THAT COME TO EVENTS.
SO REALLY LOOKING AT ALL THE WAYS WHEN WE HAVE AN INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC, EVALUATING WHAT HAVE THEY LEARNED, WHAT WERE THEIR REACTIONS. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE.
I, YEAH, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN DOING A DEEP DIVE OR HAVING STAFF DO A DEEP DIVE INTO WHAT WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T COMING AND WHY AND HOW WE CAN ENGAGE THEM IF THEY WANT TO BE ENGAGED, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME AND, AND REALLY SHARE THIS JOY THAT WE FEEL IN THE PARKS AND IN OUR PROGRAMS. AND YOU KNOW, AND IF THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO FOLKS WHO ARE NOT COMING NOW TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SO THAT WE REALLY ARE AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU. AND THEN IN TERMS OF HOW, HOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU SHARE THE RESULTS YOU KNOW, I AM A FAN OF A PRESENTATION, AT LEAST AT A HIGH LEVEL.
SO EITHER EITHER IN THIS COMMITTEE OR IN THE FULL BOARD MEETING TO HEAR WHAT YOU FOUND KIND OF AT A 50,000 FOOT LEVEL. AND I LOVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO A DASHBOARD BECAUSE THEN WE CAN DO A DEEPER DIVE.
AND I ALSO LIKED OLIVIA'S POINT ABOUT POSSIBLY WEAVING SOME OF THIS INFORMATION INTO OTHER REPORTS, BUT IN TERMS OF GETTING THE BIG PICTURE FOR ME, A PRESENTATION IS REALLY HELPFUL.
GREAT. THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS? WE DO. MR.. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE KIND OF OUTREACH EFFORTS I ALWAYS, SINCE I'M HERE IN FREMONT AND WE HAVE THE SILICON VALLEY CORPORATE MENTALITY HERE, EVERYBODY HERE HAS THAT KIND OF MENTALITY. WE WE AUTOMATICALLY FIRST QUESTION WE ASK IS WHO IS, WHO IS OUR CUSTOMER? WHO IS THE CUSTOMER? AND YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS THIS PROGRAM IS BUILT AROUND THE IDEA THAT YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO COME TO YOUR ESTABLISHED LOCATIONS AND TAKE YOUR ESTABLISHED CLASSES AND SO ON.
AND THEY'RE OUT TO, THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY HAVE RANDOM CUSTOMERS, RANDOM CUSTOMER SELECTION, WHICH IS FINE TOO. IT'S VALID, I GUESS, FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND I THINK THAT THIS BROADER IDEA OF CUSTOMERS EPITOMIZED BY THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE DISTRICT, YOU NOTICE THEY, THEY, THEY ATTRACT CUSTOMERS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO MIGHT BE DRIVING OR THEY MIGHT BE WALKING, BUT THEY BUILT THEM A VISITOR CENTER THERE. THEY BUILT THEM SIDEWALKS.
THEY BUILT THEM EVERYTHING. AND IT'S ONE OF THE TOP TOURIST ATTRACTIONS IN THE WORLD.
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AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSEDLY IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS, BUT THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DO THIS KIND OF EDUCATION AND INTERPRETIVE SERVICES AND RECREATION AND WHATEVER. THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF THAT.LIKEWISE THIS PARK DISTRICT HAS SOME CUSTOMERS WHO DECLARE THEMSELVES TO BE CUSTOMERS, PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP AT, IN, IN, IN CROWDS, CROWDS OF PEOPLE SHOW UP, WHETHER YOU WANT THEM TO SHOW UP OR NOT AT SOME, SOME OF YOUR MORE POPULAR LOCATIONS AND ARE WALKING AROUND OR BICYCLING OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING.
AND IN MANY INSTANCES, THERE IS NO VISITOR CENTER THERE.
AND YOUR STAFF NEVER, YOUR INTERPRETIVE STAFF NEVER SHOWS UP THERE.
AND PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE LOCAL HISTORY IS.
AND THE WAY YOU DEAL WITH THIS, I WOULD SUGGEST IS THE SAME WAY YOU DEAL WITH POLITICIANS.
AND YOU CAN DO THAT WITH WITH WITH REGULAR PARK VISITORS, THE ONES WHO COME IN CROWDS.
AND IF YOU CAN SET UP EVENTS AND OCCASIONALLY AND AND, AND, AND SHARE THE THE LOCAL KNOWLEDGE OF THAT PARTICULAR SITE IN PLACES THAT ARE ALREADY EXTREMELY POPULAR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. YES. GO AHEAD.
YEAH. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED SO. LISA GOORJIAN ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER OF OPERATIONS.
I WANTED TO JUST EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR SANDI AND HER WHOLE TEAM WORKING ON THIS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT. AND OUR CONSULTANT. THANK YOU.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD HAS SUPPORTED.
SO WE REALLY SUPPORT, WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THE BOARD'S SUPPORT FOR THIS.
ALSO THE REGIONAL PARK FOUNDATION IN FUNDING IT BECAUSE AS SANDI MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING INFORMATION, BUT WE HAVEN'T IT'S, IT'S BEEN KIND OF DISPARATE.
AND WHEN YOU TRY TO ALIGN IT, IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.
AND SO ONE OF THE, THE SORT OF KEY COMPONENTS THAT SANDI HAS DONE IS TO REALLY PUT TOGETHER WHAT SHE'S DESCRIBED AS A VERTICAL WORKING GROUP. SO SHE'S, SHE SAID MANAGER, SUPERVISORS, FIELD STAFF ADMIN.
SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALISTS ARE VERY KEY WITH OUR SCHOOLS THAT WE WORK WITH.
I MEAN, THE SCHOOLS, THE FIRST PEOPLE THEY TALK TO OFTEN IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALISTS.
AND SO REALLY HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF, AS WE HEARD, WHO'S THE CUSTOMERS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE USER EXPERIENCE FOR THE SCHOOLS AND MAKING SURE THAT WHAT, WHEN THEY COME AND THEY HAVE A PROGRAM, IT'S MEETING THEIR OFTEN EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS, THE EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AT A STATE LEVEL FOR EDUCATION, BUT ALSO ALIGNING WITH OUR STEWARDSHIP GOALS THAT WE ALSO HAVE WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT ALIGN WITH OUR DISTRICT MISSION.
AND THEN I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE SANDY AND THE WHOLE I&R TEAM WORKING WITH ACROSS THEIR DEPARTMENT AND THEN WITHIN, ACROSS THE DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY WITH STEWARDSHIP AS KIND OF A KEY PARTNER.
YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR THAT.
VERTICAL. VERTICAL. VERTICAL. YES. THAT MAKES SENSE IS VERTICAL.
THAT THAT'S THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. SO DID EITHER BOARD DIRECTORS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YES. GO AHEAD. YEAH. I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR BOTH OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS BECAUSE IT MADE ME THINK OF A FEW THINGS AND I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR MISSION AND HOW THIS ALIGNS WITH OUR MISSION AND THEN ALSO THINKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION.
AND I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION IS PART OF OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
AND I THINK THAT THIS WORK IS REALLY VALUABLE.
SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE TODAY TO SHARE THIS WORK AND THINK ABOUT NEXT STEPS, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS GOOD TO HAVE SOME RIGOR AND THE ABILITY TO EVALUATE PROGRAMS AND TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, ARE WE ACHIEVING THE LEARNING OUTCOMES WE WANT? ARE WE REALLY THINKING ABOUT REACHING ALL OF THE POPULATIONS THAT ARE IN THE EAST BAY? AND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO REACH THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE THOSE QUESTIONS AND COME UP WITH SOME PRIORITIZATION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS. WE NEED THIS TYPE OF ORGANIZATION AND RIGOR.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE AT A REALLY GOOD PLACE IN TERMS OF PUTTING THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER.
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AND SO FOR US TO KIND OF TAKE THAT NEXT STEP, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO REALLY HELP US GET THERE.AND FROM DAY ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I WORKED AT EPA, THIS ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, ON THE FIRST DAY AN EMPLOYEE COMES IN, THEY'RE LOCKED INTO WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT YOU'RE AVAILABLE, AND GET YOUR BRAIN THINKING IN THIS VERTICAL LEVEL, LIKE, HOW DO WE MAKE IT LEAN? HOW DO WE USE? SO WHEN OUR CHILD SAFETY PATROL PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE VERSUS OUR EDUCATORS VERSUS OUR, CLASS, OUR DOCENTS, OUR NATURALISTS, YOU KNOW US.
HOW HOW CAN WE TAKE ALL THIS DATA THAT YOU'RE USING, EVALUATE IT, AND THEN KEEP PLUGGING IT BACK IN AND CONTINUE TO USE THAT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS? AND IT MADE ME THINK ABOUT TYING IT.
THERE'S SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THESE PROGRAMS TO, TO TIE IT BACK TO THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS, WHICH I KNOW THE PARK IS EVALUATING RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE THAT ATTEND OUR CLASSES, THAT ATTEND OUR WORKSHOPS, THAT GO ON A HIKE, A PROGRAM, SEE OUR OUR MOBILE FISH TANK ARE RIPE FOR VOLUNTEERS TO, TO GET INTO THE SYSTEM. ANYWAY, YOU'VE GOT OUR BRAIN CELLS WORKING IN HOW WE CAN REALLY DO A BETTER JOB.
AND I'M SUCH A VISUAL PERSON AND I LIKE TO, LIKE DIRECTOR ECHOLS SAID, TO DIG IN LATER TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY AROUND WITH MAPS AND CHARTS AND PRESENTATIONS THAT WOULD OVERLAY WITH WHERE ARE OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE WE FINDING THAT THERE ARE PLACES, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION MAYBE WE NEED TO GO.
YOU MENTIONED THE SCHOOLS, BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD ASSESS THESE PROGRAMS. MAYBE THE WORLD IS CHANGING AND EVERYONE'S ON THEIR APPS AND ON THEIR PHONES.
MAYBE WE NEED TO RELOOK AT HOW PEOPLE ARE TOUCHING NATURE AND MAYBE WE NEED TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS INSTEAD OF ALWAYS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE HECK DO WE GET THESE SCHOOLS A SCHOOL BUS OR OR THE, THE RIGHT SUPERVISORS OR CHAPERONS AND I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST OPENS UP A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.
THANK YOU, SANDI, FOR EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, NOT TO MAKE ANY SURPRISES, BUT LIKE THE DASHBOARD, WE ACTUALLY DO GO TO THE SCHOOLS. SO NOT EVERY VISITOR CENTER GOES TO EVERY SCHOOL, BUT WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND GO OUT TO THE LIBRARIES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PLACES, IT'S EASIER TO GO TO THEM.
AND I KNOW WE DO SOME OF THAT. I JUST HAVEN'T EVER SEEN IT ALL EVALUATED AND IN PLACE.
AND MAYBE WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT IN YOU KNOW, IN, IN MANDARIN OR CANTONESE IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE'RE MISSING OR SO THE DEMOGRAPHICS, IT'LL ALL BE INTERESTING.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR VISION. THANK YOU.
IT'S REAL QUICK. SO ALSO IN TERMS OF SCHOOL PROGRAMS, THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERSHIPS.
I KNOW ZONE SEVEN WATER AGENCY HAS A VERY ROBUST SCHOOL PROGRAM FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE ZONE SEVEN SERVICE AREA IN LIVERMORE, DUBLIN AND PLEASANTON. AND THEN I KNOW CITY OF FREMONT HAS A WATERSHED SCHOOL PROGRAM WHERE THEY GO TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL WATERSHED IN THE FREMONT AREA, SO THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME PARTNERSHIPS AS WELL.
THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, THIS REPORT AND THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE RESULTS.
THANK YOU. AND ANY UPDATES YOU GET ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING, BUT THANK YOU FOR LEADING THE CHARGE AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
AND THANK YOU AS WELL. AND ANYWAY, IT'S VERY HELPFUL AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS TODAY AND YOUR FEEDBACK.
OKAY. SO I THINK AT THIS POINT, DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? ANNOUNCEMENTS? NO ANNOUNCEMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THEN IN THAT CASE THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 02:06 P.M..
THANKS, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.