Oct 04, 2024 Board of Directors Study Session

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GOOD MORNING.

THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT ON OCTOBER 4, 2024, BEGINNING AT 11:08.

LET'S SEE DIRECTOR WAESPI, CAN YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE? YES.

[LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT]

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

I WOULD LIKE TO HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE TOGETHER ON LAND THAT IS THE TRADITIONAL, ANCESTRAL AND SHARED HOME OF MANY DIVERSE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES.

MANY PEOPLE USE THE TERM OHLONE TO DESCRIBE THE CULTURES AND HERITAGE OF PEOPLES ALONG THE CENTRAL COAST OF CALIFORNIA.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT INDIGENOUS CULTURE IS NOT THE SAME ACROSS LANDS AND ECOSYSTEMS, EACH IS AS UNIQUE AS THE LAND ITSELF.

SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL, THE OHLONE PEOPLES HAVE AND DO LIVE IN RECIPROCITY AND RELATIONSHIP WITH NATURE UNDERSTANDING THE SEASONS AND CYCLES OF THE NATURAL WORLD, MANAGING RESOURCES FUNDAMENTAL FOR SURVIVAL, AND IMPORTANT TO CULTURAL PRACTICES, ALL WHILE PASSING DOWN THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE OF READING AND TENDING TO THE NATURAL WORLD. PLEASE STAND WITH ME IN EXTENDING GRATITUDE TO THE ANCESTORS, ELDERS AND RELATIVES OF THE LOCAL CHOCHENYO SPEAKING OHLONE PEOPLES, AS WELL AS ALL INDEPENDENT FIRST NATIONS PEOPLES.

WE HONOR WITH GRATITUDE THE LAND ITSELF, THE WILDLIFE LIVING WITHIN THE LAND, AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE STEWARDED IT SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL AND WHO CONTINUE TO REMAIN DEEPLY CONNECTED TO IT TODAY.

THANK YOU.

AND I'LL JUST ALSO TAKE A MOMENT.

I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS AT THE BOARD MEETING, BUT SUNDAY IS THE GATHERING OF OHLONE PEOPLES AT COYOTE HILLS.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NOT ON THE AGENDA.

NO, WE DO NOT PRESIDENT ECHOLS.

BUT WE DO NEED TO GO BACK AND TAKE THE ROLL.

THE ROLL? YES.

OKAY. OH, I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THAT AT THE TOP THERE.

[ROLL CALL]

LET'S TAKE THE ROLL.

THANK YOU. YES.

DIRECTOR MERCURIO.

HERE. DIRECTOR ROSARIO.

HERE. DIRECTOR COFFEY.

HERE. DIRECTOR SANWONG.

HERE. DIRECTOR WAESPI.

HERE. PRESIDENT ECHOLS.

HERE. GENERAL MANAGER LANDRETH.

HERE. ASSISTANT GENERAL COUNSEL MACKENZIE.

HERE. THANK YOU.

AND NO, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

OKAY. MADAM CLERK, IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN HOW TO SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE COMMENTING ON ANY OF THE

[PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

YES. PRESIDENT ECHOLS.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT CAN DO SO BY COMING IN LIVE ON ZOOM, SUBMITTING AN EMAIL, OR LEAVING A VOICEMAIL. THE INFORMATION IS NOTED ON THE AGENDA.

THE SUBMISSION I'M JUST GETTING A NOTE THAT THEY CAN'T HEAR ME.

THE SUBMISSION OF PUBLIC COMMENTS WAS NOTICED ON THE AGENDA AND BOARD PACKET POSTED ON THE PARK DISTRICT'S WEBSITE.

ALL EMAILS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE DEADLINE OF THURSDAY, OCTOBER THE 3RD HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE BOARD AND EXECUTIVE TEAM.

ANY EMAILS THAT COME IN AFTER THIS DATE WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE BOARD AFTER THIS MEETING.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WELL, WELCOME, EVERYONE, TO THIS YEAR'S BOARD STUDY SESSION ON CAPITAL PROJECTS.

TODAY'S MEETING IS HELD PERSON TO THE BROWN ACT, AND THIS MEETING IS HELD IN A STUDY SESSION FORMAT TO ENCOURAGE BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION.

HOWEVER, PER THE REQUIREMENT OF THE BROWN ACT, NO FORMAL ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN.

AT THIS TIME, I INVITE OUR GENERAL MANAGER TO MAKE A FEW REMARKS TO GET US STARTED.

GREAT. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT ECHOLS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND KICK US OFF HERE.

I HOPE THIS FORMAT WORKS BETTER FOR YOU ALL.

I HEARD I MISSED THE LAST STUDY SESSION, BUT I HEARD FEEDBACK THAT YOU WANTED TO BE BACK AT THE TABLE, SO HOPEFULLY THIS WORKS.

OKAY, GOOD.

WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE YOU JUMP JUMP BACK UP TO THE DAIS IF YOU NEED TO.

SO FIRST OFF, TODAY, AS PRESIDENT ECHOLS MENTIONED, THIS IS MEANT TO BE MORE OF AN INFORMAL CONVERSATION.

WE HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO RUN THROUGH, BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND HEAR COMMENTS FROM ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS. I DO WANT TO JUST START OFF TODAY BY GIVING A HUGE THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

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IT'S TAKEN US ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF TO GET TO THIS POINT.

AND SO IT'S BEEN A HUGE LIFT.

YOU HEAR ME SAY THIS ON THE RECORD A FEW TIMES.

PLEASE JUST BE PATIENT WITH US.

WE PUT OFF THIS STUDY SESSION FROM THE SPRING TILL NOW SO THAT WE COULD GET THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE LIST THAT WE COULD.

IT'S BEEN AN ALL HANDS ON DECK, WORKING REALLY TIRELESSLY OVER THE LAST YEAR PLUS TO TRY TO GET TO THIS POINT, AS YOU ALL I THINK ARE AWARE, WE WERE DOING CAPITAL PROJECTS IN FOUR DIFFERENT DIVISIONS AND NOT REALLY TALKING TO EACH OTHER.

THIS WAS JUST KIND OF A NATURAL EVOLUTION OF THE DISTRICT AND KIND OF HOW THINGS LANDED.

NOW WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE CONTINUING TO TRY TO BRING SOME BEST PRACTICES TO OUR BUDGET PROCESS AND OUR CAPITAL PROJECT PROCESS.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE STAFF FOR ALL THE TREMENDOUS WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE HERE.

AS YOU WILL SEE AS YOU GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND AS YOU PROBABLY ALREADY SAW IN THE PACKET.

HUGE LIST OF PROJECTS.

AND THAT IS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE HARDEST PARTS OF OUR JOB IS TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS.

I'VE NEVER WORKED FOR AN ELECTED BODY THAT HAS EVER STOOD IN FRONT OF ME AND SAY, PLEASE DO LESS.

SO WE TOTALLY GET IT THAT THAT'S YOUR ROLE AND THAT'S OUR DESIRE.

BUT IT'S OUR JOB TO REALLY TRY TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE CAN DELIVER IN ANY YEAR.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE TODAY AND HEAR FROM THE STAFF, WE'RE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD TO TRY TO SPEED UP THE SERVICE DELIVERY AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

SO THAT MEANS WORKING ON FLEXIBILITY ON PERMITTING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN MAKING SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRESS ON THAT, BUT MUCH MORE TO COME.

YOU'LL HEAR FROM US ABOUT KIND OF SOME IDEAS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE WANT TO CARRY SOME CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC RESOURCES CODE IN SACRAMENTO THIS YEAR.

SO THAT WILL ALSO HOPEFULLY GO THROUGH, AND PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WILL HELP US AGAIN DELIVER ON THE PROJECTS.

YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS SOME REQUESTS ON STAFFING THAT WE HOPE WILL HELP TO MOVE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ALONG AS WELL.

AND THEN YOU ABSOLUTELY ARE GOING TO HEAR THE CONTINUED REFRAIN ABOUT THE DOLLARS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE ON HAND.

WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD PROBLEM, WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE CAPITAL RESOURCES THAT WERE PASSED IN 1988 AND 2008.

THAT'S A LONG TIME TO BE SITTING ON MONEY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM YOUR FISCAL FOLKS ON WHY THAT COULDN'T BE A PROBLEM AND WHY? WE DEFINITELY ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU FREE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS UP TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY TO GET THESE IMPORTANT PROJECTS DONE THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE LIST.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE PACKET THERE THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE TRUE FUNDING GAPS ARE.

SO THAT'S A HUGE LIFT.

AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO ALSO SEE AS WE TRY TO WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

BUT AS WE WORK CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, TRYING TO GET A MUCH MORE ACCURATE COST OF WHAT IT TAKES TO DELIVER A PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, I HEARD THAT FROM THE FIRST MINUTE I WALKED IN THE DOOR HERE, WHICH WAS THE BOARD WAS FRUSTRATED THAT WE WOULD COME WITH A $3 MILLION CHANGE ORDER AS AN EXAMPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.

WELL, THAT'S JUST NOT GOOD PROJECT PLANNING.

AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO INSTILL SOME OF THAT THROUGH KEN'S SHOP.

AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, LET'S LOOK AT FROM, YOU KNOW, START TO FINISH FROM THE CONCEPT DESIGN ALL OR THE ACQUISITION, LET'S SAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO ACTUALLY DO THE MONITORING AND SATISFY THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS OF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

SO AGAIN, JUST BEING REALLY HONEST AND TRANSPARENT WITH WHAT IT TAKES TO DO TO DO THIS WORK.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE BOARD AND GIVING US THE PATIENCE TO GET TO THIS POINT.

A LOT MORE WORK TO COME, BUT THIS FEELS LIKE THE RIGHT MOMENT TO KIND OF CHECK IN WITH YOU ON THE SOME OF THE LESSONS THAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH THE PRIORITIZATION MATRIX THAT YOU PASSED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHICH HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL TO GET, YOU KNOW, KIND OF YOUR POLICY PRIORITIES ON HOW TO RANK THESE THINGS.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY, ALL OF THIS WILL LEAD INTO CONTINUED WORK AROUND THE DISTRICT PLAN.

SO THAT AS WE WORK WITH COMMUNITY, HEY, IS THIS THE RIGHT LIST OR ARE THERE SOME THINGS ON HERE THAT MAYBE WERE LEGACY ITEMS THAT AREN'T A PRIORITY ANYMORE? AND THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S TOTALLY NORMAL TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, TO SOMETIMES GO AHEAD AND TAKE SOME THINGS OFF BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE SOME OF MY OTHER ITEMS THAT MIGHT BE HIGHER PRIORITY FOR YOU AND FOR OBVIOUSLY YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OFF TO KEN, AND HE'S GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH THE CONVERSATION TODAY WITH HIS TEAM.

[ACQUISITION, STEWARDSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT DIVISION]

I'M KEN WYSOCKI, I'M THE ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER.

I OVERSEE THE ACQUISITION STEWARDSHIP DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PLANNING CULTURAL RESOURCES AND GIS.

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AND SOME OF THOSE ON THAT LIST WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND OTHERS ARE PROPOSED FOR FUTURE WORK.

AND AS MENTIONED, THIS IS NOT ALL INCLUSIVE.

WE'RE STILL GATHERING INFORMATION, BUT THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE OVER $100,000.

SO THERE'S ALSO PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ARE UNDER $100,000 THAT AREN'T ON THAT LIST, BUT WE'RE GETTING THIS INFORMATION FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

AS WE BUILD THAT LIST, AND STAFF IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET A BETTER HANDLE ON THOSE MANY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.

AND AS THE GENERAL MANAGER MENTIONED, WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, SHORING UP THE TRUE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE PROJECTS.

MANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR BOOKS HAVE A LOT OF PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL MONITORING THAT CAN GO FIVE, TEN YEARS OR SO THAT IT'S NOT CAPTURED IN THE CAPITAL DOLLARS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR IN GENERAL FUND OR GRANTS TO MEET THE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS.

BUT THIS PAST YEAR WE CREATED A CAPITAL PROJECT PRIORITIZATION TEAM.

AND THIS IS A DIVERSE GROUP WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

IT HAS ASD, OPS, PUBLIC SAFETY, FINANCE AND EVERYBODY'S BRINGING TOGETHER.

WE MEET MONTHLY TO BRING TOGETHER ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE'RE BREAKING DOWN THAT SILO LOOKING AND SEEING ACROSS BECAUSE PROJECTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FROM ONE DEPARTMENT.

ALSO YOU NEED HELP FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

SO WE WANT TO GET A GOOD REVIEW OF THE PROJECT LIST, BRINGING THINGS TOGETHER AND BRING TO LIGHT THE VARIOUS PROJECTS OTHERS ARE WORKING ON.

THIS TEAM ALSO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE CPP SCORING, UTILIZING THE CAPITAL PRIORITIZATION POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE BOARD TO HELP WITH THAT PRIORITIZATION. AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO HELP DEVELOP OUR OUR FIVE YEAR CIP.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIVE YEAR CIP, WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON PAST THOSE FIVE YEARS. AND SO WE'RE ALSO DEVELOPING THAT FIVE OUT YEAR LIST OF PROJECTS SO THAT WE HAVE A VISUAL OF WHAT'S OUT THERE.

BECAUSE WE HEAR YOU AT EVERY YEAR AT OUR BOARD PRIORITIZATION THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE DONE IN YOUR WARD.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WHERE THAT'S CAPTURED, BUT WHERE IT IS ON PRIORITY.

AND AS WE VENTURE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, AS THE GENERAL MANAGER MENTIONED, THE CIP WILL BE INFLUENCED BY OUR DISTRICT PLAN.

YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS VENTURE.

WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE GOING TO HEAR INTERNALLY AND THIS INCLUDES AND DIRECTOR SANWONG, THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS UP AT THE BOARD MEETING ABOUT LAND BANK.

RIGHT NOW, MY PLANNING TEAM IS DEVELOPING A OPENING SCHEDULE.

THEY'RE WORKING ON AN OPENING SCHEDULE, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, INFLUENCED BY THE DISTRICT PLAN AND IN CLOSE COORDINATION WITH OPS PUBLIC SAFETY, WE WANT TO ENSURE, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE CONFIDENT RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN OPEN.

AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO OPEN OTHER ONES? THE AGENDA HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW, REN IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTIVE PROJECTS WE HAVE, THE PROJECTS HE'S CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND HOW THOSE PROJECTS ARE DELIVERED.

SO HE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

BOTH KATIE AND REN ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL PRIORITIZATION SCORES.

GIVE SOME EXAMPLES SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THINGS WERE SCORED LIKE A HIGH SCORE AND A LOW SCORE.

AND THEN KATIE IS GOING TO ALSO TALK ABOUT CAPITAL FUNDING SOURCES AND A PREVIEW OF OUR FIVE YEAR CIP.

WHAT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IS ASK QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY.

THIS IS A STUDY SESSION WITH INTERACTION.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT IF A PROJECT THAT YOU SEE ON THE LIST NEEDS TO RAISE A PRIORITY AND IT'S, OF COURSE, IT'S A BOARD DECISION KEEP IN MIND THAT SOMETHING HAS TO DROP BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.

THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH FUNDING AND PEOPLE RESOURCES.

SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS, AS YOU GO THROUGH THESE PROJECT LISTS.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO REN.

OH, YES. SO I HAVE A QUESTION IN TERMS OF PROJECTS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT ON THE LIST, BUT THE BOARD MIGHT WANT TO HAVE ON THE LIST OR MIGHT RECOMMEND ADDING TO THE LIST.

A PROCESS FOR THAT. AND ALSO, MAYBE I TRIED TO SEARCH FOR IT AND MAYBE IT'S UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME.

SO SOMETHING LIKE WHERE IT MIGHT BE A PROJECT FOR ANOTHER AGENCY.

SO I SHARED THIS AT THE END OF THE BOARD MEETING ON TUESDAY.

IT SOUNDS LIKE ZONE 7 MAY BE REPRIORITIZING TO ELEVATE THE DEL VALLE TO CHAIN OF LAKES PIPELINE THAT WILL PASS, MOST LIKELY PASS THROUGH SHADOW CLIFFS PARK, AND THERE'S A

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AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON THIS LIST.

BUT IT ALSO ISN'T NECESSARILY OUR PROJECT.

BUT THERE MAY BE THIS TIMING PRIORITY IN REGARDS TO THAT PROJECT.

I'M JUST USING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE. WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT.

SURE. BUT JUST HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT POTENTIALLY GET ADDED TO THIS LIST? MOST DEFINITELY, I MEAN, WE TAKE INFORMATION FROM YOU, SO IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING THAT FORWARD, BRING THAT FORWARD TO US.

WE PUT IT ON THE LIST AND WE SEE, YOU KNOW, AS A GROUP, WE LOOK AT WHERE WE CAN DO ON PRIORITIZATION WHERE THAT FITS AND ALSO BRING FORWARD THAT IF THIS IF WE SEE AS THE BOARD JUST MOVES UP, WHAT COMES DOWN, WHAT SHIFTS, WHAT'S THE PRIORITIZATION FOR THAT? ALSO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENT IT'S ANOTHER AGENCY THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING IT SO DEFINITELY. BUT A LOT OF TIMES A LOT OF TIMES PROJECTS ALSO REQUIRE SOME ASSESSMENT FROM OUR GROUP THAT MAYBE THEY'RE NOT DOING THE BUILD, THE CONSTRUCTION DESIGN, BUT THEY'RE REVIEWING DESIGNS.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THERE'S ONLY SO MANY OF THOSE CIVIL ENGINEERS THAT WE HAVE.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANKS. GOOD QUESTION.

REN. THANK YOU.

GOT IT THIS TIME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KEN, GENERAL MANAGER FOR THE THAT INTRODUCTION TO THIS, I AM REN BATES CHIEF OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION HERE AT THE PARK DISTRICT.

[DESIGN & CONSTRUCTION (DECO) ACTIVE CAPITAL PROJECTS]

PLEASE BEAR WITH ME WHILE I BRING THE PRESENTATION UP.

HERE WE GO. OKAY.

[PROJECT LIST WITH CAPITAL PROJECT PRIORITIZATION (CPP) SCORES]

THE LIST IS THERE AS ATTACHMENT A.

MY INTENTION IS TO NOT TO SPEAK TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.

THERE ARE LOTS OF PROJECTS ON THAT LIST.

I DON'T HAVE ALL THE SPECIFICITY TO THAT.

TO THAT END I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD EQUITABLY GO THROUGH ALL 60 PROJECTS AND DISCUSS THEM ALL AT ONCE.

THAT SAID, IF IT'S AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION, I CAN ADDRESS THEM AS I AM ABLE.

THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL LIST WITH CAPITAL PROJECT PRIORITIZATION SCORES, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR COLLEAGUES IN FINANCE TO TALK ABOUT FUNDING SOURCES AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CIP.

SO THIS IS OUR ACTIVE WORK PLAN.

IT IS 60 PROJECT STRONG.

SO WHAT THIS DOES, THIS IS BROKEN OUT INTO PHASES AND I WILL GO IN THE NEXT SLIDE, SORT OF WHAT THOSE PHASES ARE AND GIVE YOU EXAMPLES OF CURRENT PROJECTS AND HOW THOSE CORRELATE TO WHAT THE BOARD ACTION WILL TAKE AND GO FROM THERE.

SO THIS WORK PLAN IS BROKEN OUT INTO CONSTRUCTION DESIGN AND PERMIT, PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND CLOSEOUT.

AND SO IT'S SORT OF IT'S IN ORDER.

SO CONSTRUCTION I MEAN WE DO AND I'LL GET TO THIS AT THE NEXT SLIDE.

BUT SO IT'S GROUPED BY PHASE.

WE'VE ALSO THEN TAKEN IT AND RANKED IN THOSE PHASES.

AND GIVEN THE CPP SCORE.

SO THAT SCORE IS ON THE FAR RIGHT.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT HOW THE CURRENT PLAN, THE CURRENT PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON SCORE.

SO AGAIN IT'S NOT JUST IT GOES FIRST BY THE PHASE AND THEN BY THE CPP SCORE.

SO THIS ATTACHMENT ALSO TIES TO ATTACHMENT B WHICH AGAIN IN A FUTURE SLIDE I'LL SPEAK TO.

SO WHAT OUR ACTIVE PROJECT MEANS IS THAT THE PROJECT HAS FUNDING AT LEAST TO GET TO SOME FUTURE STAGE OR TO GET US TO FULL CONSTRUCTION AND THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT.

ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT MEANS WE ARE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT OR WE'RE DEVELOPING PLANS, WE'RE GETTING PERMITS, WE'RE IN CONSTRUCTION.

SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS AND STAFF WHICH ARE NOT CAPTURED, STAFF WORK, WHICH ARE NOT CAPTURED ON THE WORK PLAN.

I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH OUR ADOPTED PROJECT AND PROGRAM BUDGET.

THERE ARE SO MANY PROJECTS IN HERE THAT OUR STAFF ARE NOT CURRENTLY WORKING ON.

I THINK PART OF IT IS AND THE REASON FOR THIS CAPITAL PROJECT PRIORITIZATION IS THAT WE DO HAVE THIS OUTSTANDING LIST.

AND SO WE WANT TO NARROW IT DOWN.

THERE ARE PROJECTS IN HERE THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION THAT HAVE FUNDING THAT WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY WORKING ON FOR VARIOUS REASONS, THAT BEING STAFF RESOURCES, THAT IT WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS A LEGACY PROJECT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP A WHILE AGO THAT WE'VE KEPT ON THE BOOKS BECAUSE, JUST FOR REFERENCE, AND HISTORICALLY, PROJECT DEVELOPMENT HAS KIND OF BEEN DRIVEN.

WE'RE TRYING TO CURTAIL IT AS THE OR NOT CURTAIL, BUT HONE IT AND MAKE IT MORE SPECIFIC AS THE GENERAL MANAGER POINTED OUT, IN THE PAST, IT'S BEEN OPPORTUNITY.

FUNDING GRANTS DROVE A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS.

WW LIKE THE PROJECT LIST DROVE THAT.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE WW FUNDING, WE FOUND THAT A LOT OF THAT ALLOCATION FOR DEVELOPMENT KIND OF DIDN'T WAS NOT ENOUGH TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

AND SO THAT LED US INTO GRANT FUNDING AND THAT HAS ITS OWN CHALLENGES.

IT'S GREAT THAT WE UTILIZE OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, BUT SOMETIMES IN GRANT FUNDING, WE THEN ARE CONDITIONED TO DO CERTAIN OTHER APPROVALS.

AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, LIKE IF WE GET FEDERAL FUNDS, THEN WE INVITE OUR FEDERAL REGULATORS, IN WHICH SOMETIMES WE ARE WE WORK WITH OUR STATE REGULATORS BUT

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SO THIS LIST IN FRONT OF YOU DOESN'T CAPTURE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LEGACY.

AND IT ALSO DOESN'T CAPTURE TO WHAT KEN WAS SPEAKING OF EARLIER, IS THAT WE HAVE MANY GROUPS WORKING ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS, AND SO OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONALS WILL ASSIST PLANNING WITH CERTAIN PROJECTS, STEWARDSHIP WITH CERTAIN PROJECTS, AND THEY RECIPROCATE BY HELPING US ON OUR PROJECTS.

AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK, AND OUR STAFF IS BEING SPREAD ACROSS PROJECTS, AND PART OF THIS, TOO, IS THEN FOCUSING AND HAVING OUR STAFF BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON PROJECTS WHERE WE DON'T, WHERE THAT CROSS COLLABORATION IS SUPPORTIVE AND WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH OTHER WITH EACH OTHER'S PROJECTS.

SO JUST AS KIND OF A BASIS FOR THAT.

SO TO FURTHER THAT, I WILL TALK ABOUT NOW THESE PHASES AND I'LL GIVE EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO PROJECT ORIENTED ORIGINATION, THIS IS ONE WHERE IT'S BEEN A QUESTION FOR A LONG TIME OF HOW DO PROJECTS GET OR HOW DO PROJECTS START.

AND SO HERE'S AN ATTEMPT AT CAPTURING THAT.

IT'S BOARD PRIORITIES.

BOARD APPROVED. SO THE MEASURES THAT WE HAVE AND THEN PROJECTS AS THEY COME UP.

IN ADDITION TO THIS WE HAVE EMERGENCIES.

WE HAVE NATURAL DISASTERS THAT CAUSE US TO REORIENT AND SORT OF RECONFIGURE OUR WORK PLAN, AND THEN THAT BRINGS UP NEW PROJECTS.

SO IN THE PAST, LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS SORT OF A FREE FOR ALL.

AND IT'S GOT US TO THIS POINT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO THAT'S JUST THE ORIGINATION PART.

BUT TO THE POINT OF THIS PROJECT DELIVERY.

YEAH. DIRECTOR ROSARIO JUST A QUESTION.

WHEN WE GET A PROJECT THAT COMES UP, DO WE TAKE IT TO A PARTICULAR STAGE, LIKE, SAY WE ANY PROJECT THAT WE GET, WE TAKE IT UP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, LIKE, LIKE JUST THE INITIAL PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND THEN WE PUT IT ON THE BACK BURNER UNTIL WE IDENTIFY THE FUNDING? THAT IS A SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS THAT AS I SPEAK THROUGH THESE.

I THINK HISTORICALLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS AND THE REASON FOR THIS BEING SO MUCH IS THAT WE WOULD GET SOME FUNDING AND THEN PUT IT INTO A PROJECT NUMBER TO MAKE THAT SORT OF ASSESSMENT. WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT IN SUCH THAT LAST YEAR MADE A REQUEST FOR A SOME DISCRETIONARY FUNDS SO THAT WE COULD DO SOME INITIAL STUDIES TO START TO DO THAT.

IN ANTICIPATION OF WHEN A PROJECT COMES UP THAT HASN'T BEEN VETTED.

AND KNOWING THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS A CAPITAL PROJECT, THAT WE CAN DO SOME OF THOSE STUDIES, NOT ASSIGNING A PROJECT NUMBER AND NOT THEN INCREASE OUR CAPITAL PROJECT LIST.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.

BUT TO YOUR POINT IS THAT WE DO HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT HAVE MADE IT TO A CERTAIN POINT.

AND BECAUSE OF EITHER FUNDING OR RESOURCES OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS, THEY THEN SIT.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

BUT TO YOUR POINT THAT THAT IS HOW SOME OF OUR CURRENT PROJECTS ARE WORKING.

SO THAT'S WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT ASSESSMENT YET TO SAY YES OR NO, BUT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS OR WE'RE TRYING TO GET FUNDING AND PROCESS BY WHICH WE CAN DO THAT SO THAT IT INFORMS AND DOESN'T ADD TO OUR PROJECT LIST.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.

KIND OF. ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE I MEAN, BECAUSE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THERE, THEY CAN COME OUT FROM ANYWHERE.

YES. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO WHERE WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOMETIMES WHEN THOSE GRANTS, I'M THINKING ANTHONY CHABOT CLEAN UP THE GUN RANGE AND LAKE TEMESCAL.

IF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES COME UP THAT WE'RE READY TO ACCEPT THOSE GRANTS.

SO IT'S A LOT.

IT'S A LOT TO CONSIDER, I KNOW.

UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. THIS IS HUGE PROJECTS.

GREAT INPUT. THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR SANWONG. YES.

SO TO PREPARE FOR TODAY, I ACTUALLY WENT TO OUR WEBSITE, THE EBPARKS.ORG PROJECTS WEBSITE.

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY WELL DONE.

AND I BELIEVE THOUGH YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR PROJECT DELIVERY, I ACTUALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THIS.

I THINK IT'S A REALLY WELL DONE WAY OF SUMMARIZING OUR ENTIRE PROCESS.

AND I THINK AT SOME POINT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THINK ABOUT OUR AND I MENTIONED THIS ALSO AT THE TUESDAY BOARD MEETING, AND IT WAS MORE IN REFERENCE TO THIS THINKING ABOUT OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ELEVATE THIS TO OUR PROJECT'S WEBSITE.

ALONG WITH A LIST OF PROJECTS, BECAUSE THERE IS SOME COMMENTARY OUT IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANY PROJECTS IN CERTAIN AREAS WHEN IF YOU LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THESE DOCUMENTS, WE OBVIOUSLY ARE.

AND WHILE THIS SLIDE DECK AND OUR PROJECT LIST, IT'S ALL AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO OUR BOARD MEETINGS SECTION WHERE ALL OF THE MATERIALS ARE LOCATED, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT FIND THEIR WAY THERE.

AND SO THIS MIGHT BE A MUCH LONGER TIME PERIOD TO THINK ABOUT THAT EBPARKS.ORG/PROJECTS WEBSITE.

BUT I THINK IT COULD REALLY GO A LONG WAY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT INFORMATION WE HAVE ON THAT SITE.

AND I THINK WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB RIGHT NOW.

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AND THEN I ALSO THINK THAT ACTUALLY, THIS WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE ON THAT WEBSITE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT ON PRETTY QUICKLY, AND SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WITH THIS WORKING GROUP, WHICH IS THE COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.

AND SO I'VE LIVED IN ANOTHER AGENCY WHERE I HAD TO GET US THROUGH SIMILAR PROCESSES, WHERE ULTIMATELY WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE COULD PROVIDE REGULAR UPDATES ON THE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, ON THOSE WEBSITES AS WELL.

SO WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

AND I THINK THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY WITH THE ROLLOUT OF THE DISTRICT PLAN FOR US TO REALLY MESSAGE OUT, CERTAINLY TO CERTAIN POCKETS OF, OF THE DISTRICT ABOUT HOW MUCH WORK IS LIKE HAS HAPPENED IN THEIR IN, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY, INDIVIDUAL WARD, BUT ALSO HOW MUCH IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING, WHICH I THINK MOST OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE JUST NOT AWARE OF.

SO TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH. AND TO YOUR POINT, IT TOOK US, WHAT, A YEAR AND A HALF TO EVEN JUST COMPILE THE LIST.

AND IN THAT YEAR AND A HALF, I THINK ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WE WERE STILL RESPONDING TO STORM DAMAGE.

AND, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, I JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF AT DEL VALLE, AND WE REALLY WANT TO GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS IN REGARDS TO A FEW OF THOSE PROJECTS IN RESPONSE TO THE STORM.

SO IT MAKES SENSE WHERE OUR PRIORITIES ARE.

BUT I THINK NOW GOING FORWARD, THINKING ABOUT THIS, I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE.

IT'S GREAT SUGGESTIONS. DULY NOTED.

OKAY, SO BACK TO PHASES.

I'LL JUMP THROUGH THIS AND FEEL FREE.

YES, PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS AS APPROPRIATE OR THEY COME UP.

SO PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

THIS IS CALLED PRE-DESIGN IN THE WORKSHEET OR ON THE ATTACHMENT A IT'S CALLED PRE-DESIGN.

IT'S JUST AN ABBREVIATION OF PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

THIS IS WHERE WE WILL SCOPE OUT OPTIONS AND MOVE FORWARD.

THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE OF THIS THAT THE BOARD HAS PARTICIPATED IN IS THE TILDEN EEC PROJECT.

AND SO WE HIRED A CONSULTANT WHO THEN TOOK US THROUGH SEVERAL DESIGN OPTIONS, KIND OF WE DID A LOT OF OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH THEN, AND WE CAME UP WITH THE PREFERRED CONCEPT. AND SO THAT GOT US TO THE POINT HERE WHERE WE'RE AT THIS SORT OF BETWEEN PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND DESIGN, AND WHAT WE WOULD DO NOW IS NEXT STEP WITH THAT WOULD BE WOULD TAKE THAT PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN AND START TO SEE WHAT IMPACTS IT HAS AND MOVE TOWARDS CEQA.

SO THAT PROCESS FOR THAT PLAN TOOK ABOUT A YEAR FROM WHEN WE ENTERED INTO AGREEMENT WITH THE CONSULTANT TO WHEN WE HAD OUR CONCEPT PLAN.

THAT WAS A BIT FAST FOR HISTORICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE PARK DISTRICT.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER, IT FELT LIKE WE WERE COMING TO YOU ALMOST EVERY OTHER BOARD MEETING AND EARLIER THIS YEAR.

SO THAT WAS A BIT QUICK.

BUT WE DID WANT TO HAVE, BASED ON THAT PROJECT, THE SCOPE OF IT.

WE WANTED TO KEEP MOMENTUM GOING AND SORT OF MOVE THAT FORWARD.

SO BUT TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, DIRECTOR ROSARIO, IS THAT THIS PROJECT NOW DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD INTO THAT.

AND SO WE'VE ADVANCED IT TO SUCH A STAGE THAT IF NEED BE, WHATEVER THE DECISION MADE OR LACK OF FUNDING, THAT WE CAN PUT IT ON A SHELF.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE, WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD AGAIN THAT'S ANYWAY, I'M NOT TRYING TO THAT I CAN SEE THAT BEGS OTHER QUESTIONS.

I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.

I DON'T WANT TO DIVE INTO THAT, BUT THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND THAT'S AN EXAMPLE TO USE FOR THAT.

AND AGAIN, THE EEC IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE GOT TO IN PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND HOW WHAT THOSE PHASES ENTAIL.

SO AND AGAIN, THERE'S MANY PERMUTATIONS OF THIS.

WE DON'T ALWAYS HIRE A CONSULTANT.

SOME OF THIS IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE LIKE THE PLANNING PROCESS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE RODDY RANCH PUBLIC ACCESS AND RESTORATION PLAN GOT US THROUGH THIS SORT OF PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND ACTUALLY ALSO INCLUDED THE CEQA, BECAUSE THE BOARD ADOPTED THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEER VALLEY RANCH EIR.

AND SO, AGAIN, JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAN GET FROM PRELIMINARY DESIGN THROUGH CEQA AND THEN INTO CONSTRUCTION, DESIGN AND PERMITTING.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH RODDY RANCH IS WHERE AS WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE DESIGN AND THE PERMITTING THAT WE HAVE.

I'LL USE THIS ONE AS AN EXAMPLE.

OUR PERMITTING.

OH, QUESTION. YES.

SORRY. DIRECTOR COFFEY.

I MISSED YOUR HAND. JUST FOR REFERENCE SAKE, WHEN YOU'RE REFERRING TO RODDY RANCH.

MICROPHONE. HEY, MIKE, WHEN YOU'RE REFERRING TORODNEY RANCH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE RESTORATION AND CONVERSION.

CORRECT? YES.

AND SO THAT ONE WE ARE.

THEN THAT AGAIN, THIS THIS GRAPH IS GREAT.

IT SIMPLIFIES IT. BUT IN REALITY, THERE ARE MANY LIKE ADJUNCTS AND THINGS THAT SHOOT OFF OF THIS.

AND SO TO THAT END, THE RODNEY RANCH PUBLIC ACCESS AND RESTORATION PROJECT IS ONE IN COMBINATION WITH THE HCP, THE CONTRA COSTA HCP. AND SO AS PART OF THAT, SOME OF THAT, BECAUSE WE WORK WITH THEM AS PARTNERS, THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING ASPECT OF THAT IS IS LESSENED.

AND SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT WE STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE MUNICIPAL, AND WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF ANTIOCH TO GET PERMITS FOR THAT.

AND SO THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER ASPECT TO THIS IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH OUR MUNICIPALITIES AND SORT OF WORKING WITH THEM SO THAT WE CAN PERMIT FOR BUILDING LIKE IN TERMS OF A

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THIS CAME UP IN OUR SIBLEY CREEK RESTORATION PROJECT, WHERE WE HAD A CAMPGROUND AS PART OF THAT.

AND AGAIN, THAT ONE WAS APPROVED AS PART OF A LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT.

SO WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND CEQA WAS MOSTLY DONE, AND WE JUMPED INTO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.

PART OF THAT PERMITTING WAS THAT THERE WAS A CAMPGROUND.

THE COUNTY SAID, THIS ISN'T REALLY ZONED FOR THAT.

WE DECIDED AT THAT POINT WE COULD PHASE THIS.

WE COULD THEN DO THE CREEK PROJECT AND THEN REMOVE THE CAMPGROUND AS A FUTURE PHASE.

AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE THINGS, THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR US TO LOOK AT HOW WE DELIVER THE PROJECTS AND SORT OF BREAK THINGS UP INTO DIFFERENT PHASES IF NEED BE.

A SIMILAR PROJECT TO THAT VEIN IS THE TIDEWATER DAY USE AREA PROJECT.

AND SO WE GOT INTO THAT ONE.

AND WHEN WE STARTED TO TALK TO BCDC, THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS SEA LEVEL RISE.

AND THAT APPROACH BROUGHT US TO WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN FILL.

WELL, NOW WE HAVE TO DO UTILITIES.

LET'S BRING IN THE UTILITIES AND PLACE THEM OUTSIDE OF THE FILL.

AND THAT WAY WE COULD PHASE IT, GET SOME PRELIMINARY WORK DONE AND THEN HAVE FUTURE TO FUNDRAISE, PERMIT THAT FUTURE PHASE.

AND AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO SHOW EXAMPLES OF CURRENT PROJECTS OF HOW TO YOUR POINT DIRECTOR SANWONG THIS IS GREAT, BUT IT TAKES DIFFERENT PERMUTATIONS.

AND SOMETIMES IN THIS PROCESS WE INVITE OTHER ENTITIES IN OR OTHER ENTITIES TELL US AND GIVE US CONDITIONS THAT THEN WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO.

ALL OF THAT MEANS IS THAT SOMETIMES THIS TIMELINE PUSHES OUT, AND IN GENERAL, SOME OF OUR PROJECTS TAKE 3 TO 5 YEARS, SO SOMETIMES SEVEN.

AND SO IN TERMS OF JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW THE FIVE YEAR CIP PLAYS OUT AND PRIORITIES, WE DON'T GET PROJECTS DONE IN A YEAR.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING'S GOING TO BE LIKE, THIS IS MY PRIORITY.

I WANT IT DONE IN A YEAR.

GO DO IT. IT'S.

I WISH WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK OUT THAT WAY.

IN A RARE OPPORTUNITY, WE CAN.

WE WILL DO THAT. BUT THAT IS THE TO THE DETRIMENT OF KEN'S EARLIER POINT OF SOME OTHER PROJECTS.

SO THAT GETS US THROUGH DESIGN AND PERMIT.

I MEAN, SO YES, DIRECTOR SANWONG.

I WAS GOING TO WAIT TILL YOU'RE DONE WITH THIS ONE, BUT I'LL JUST SAY, I KNOW LAST YEAR YOU MADE US THIS LOVELY MAP WITH ALL THE PROJECTS, AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO COMMENT THAT IT'S A NICE MAP AND, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THE WEBSITE, IT'D BE AMAZING TO HAVE THIS WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS WORKFLOW UP HERE TOGETHER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALLOW PEOPLE TO SEE KIND OF THE MAP OF WHERE ALL OF THE PROJECTS ARE HAPPENING.

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT LAND, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY LAND BANKS ARE AN IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR TODAY.

BUT ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, DEL VALLE, I MEAN, WE HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS HERE FROM 2023 AND 2024 THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN THAT PARTICULAR PARK. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS ELEVATED AND KNOWN, BECAUSE THERE MAY NOT BE A BIG, YOU KNOW, BOARD TOUR OR DEDICATION IN REGARDS TO THE, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY MARINA THAT WE HAVE THERE RIGHT NOW.

BUT IT'S STILL REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE WERE WORKING ON IT.

GREAT POINT. THANK YOU.

AND I THINK THAT IS PART OF THAT'S A GREAT REMINDER THAT A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS ARE NOT MASSIVE PROJECTS THAT DO ALL THIS.

AND AGAIN, THAT ADDS TO THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT VARIETIES THAT WE HAVE IN PROJECT DELIVERY.

BECAUSE OF THE SCOPE, WE MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A BUNCH OF PUBLIC MEETINGS.

IT'S A REPAIR WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DO.

IT'S STILL A LARGE PROJECT AND SO WE DELIVER IT THAT WAY.

AND SO YES, IT THAT IS AN ADDITION, A LAYER TO THIS THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY TAKE ALL OF THESE STEPS IF NOT REQUIRED.

SO AND AT THE BOTTOM ARE THESE DIAMONDS THAT SORT OF SHOW WHERE WE COME TO THE BOARD IN TERMS OF YOUR KNOWING YOUR PROCESS OR WHEN YOU GUYS WILL BE ADDRESSED AS, AS PART OF THESE.

I THINK, AGAIN, BASED ON THE PROJECT WE ACCOMMODATE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THIS PRELIMINARY DESIGN SHOWS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE BOARD APPROVE THE CONSULTANT CONTRACT, AND THEN WE WOULD COME SORT OF AT THE BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY HOW WE'VE DONE LARGER PROJECTS TO GET APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPT.

AGAIN, FOR EDC, IT WAS BIG.

WE WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH THE ENTIRE BOARD.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ACCOMMODATE.

FOR ANOTHER EXAMPLE, IF IT WAS A SMALLER BRIDGE PROJECT REPAIR ON LAFAYETTE-MORAGA TRAIL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BRING ALL THAT TO YOU UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT WE ARE PROBABLY READY TO AUTHORIZE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.

SO ONCE WE DO ALL THAT, WE DO GO OUT TO PUBLIC BID.

WE ARE CONSTRAINED IN TERMS OF NOT CONSTRAINED, BUT WE ARE REQUIRED TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH OUR LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS.

SO THAT ADDS ANOTHER LAYER TO OUR PROJECT DELIVERY.

LASTLY, I WILL SAY CONSTRUCTION AS HAS BEEN NOTED AND HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED, WE NEED TO WE ARE WORKING ON OUR COMMUNICATION.

WE ARE ALSO FINDING OUT THAT CONSTRUCTION AND THIS ENTIRE PROCESS TAKES A LOT LONGER THAN WE INITIALLY HOPED TO AND ENTER INTO, AND IT'S FOR MANY REASONS, I THINK I'VE BEEN IN MEETINGS WHERE I'VE HEARD OUR CONSTITUENTS COMMENT ON THE TIMELINE AND DELIVERY OF CERTAIN PROJECTS AND COMMENT THAT THEY TAKE LONGER.

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WE'RE TRYING TO WORK BETTER ON OUR ESTIMATE OF TIMELINES.

I THINK WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WE HAVE OUR PROJECT SITES ARE UNIQUE.

THEY ARE VERY SPECIAL PLACES.

AND TO THAT END, THEY REQUIRE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE HAVE REGULATORS THAT MAKE SURE WE DO THOSE ASPECTS OF CONSTRUCTION WHERE THEY THEY FALL INTO CERTAIN SEASONS.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, AS AN AGENCY, WE HAVE TAKEN UPON OURSELVES TO BE BECAUSE WE ARE URBAN WILDLAND INTERFACE WHEN THERE ARE RED FLAG DAYS, WE DO NOT DO ANY WORK WHERE THERE'S A RISK WHERE WE WOULD START A FIRE AND THEN CAUSE RESOURCES THAT COULD BE APPLIED SOMEWHERE ELSE TO THAT.

SO AND I'M ONLY SHARING ALL OF THIS IN THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION WINDOW SOMETIMES ARE VERY TIGHT AND EVEN IN THOSE TIGHT WINDOWS, BECAUSE THEY'RE TYPICALLY SOMETIMES FROM AUGUST TO OCTOBER. THAT'S THE HOT PART OF THE YEAR WHERE WE'RE LIKELY TO HAVE FIRE SEASON.

THIS KIND OF CAME TO FRUITION AT THE MCCOSKER OR THE SIBLEY CREEK RESTORATION PROJECT, AND SO THAT DROVE US INTO LONGER CONSTRUCTION DURATION BECAUSE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL.

SO TO THAT END, THOSE THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO AS A AS A PROJECT DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND DELIVERY TEAM, PUT THOSE IN AND GIVE MORE STRATEGIC OR LENGTHEN OUR DELIVERY PERIODS.

AND TO YOUR POINT, DIRECTOR SANWONG, IS THAT WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT HIGHLIGHTING OUR WEBSITE AND SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT AND HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN REAL TIME.

I WILL ADMIT THAT IT'S ONE OF OUR LESSER THINGS BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF THESE OTHER THINGS.

SO THE PROJECT WEBSITE UPDATE, WHICH IS NOT MY TEAM'S BAILIWICK, IF YOU WILL, IT IS WE TRY TO INCORPORATE THAT.

SO THAT WILL ALL BE PART OF THE COMMUNICATION SO THAT WE CAN ONE HIGHLIGHT HOW LONG THINGS TAKE.

WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE ESTIMATES AND THEN ADDITIONALLY JUST COMMUNICATE THAT TO STAKEHOLDERS AND CONSTITUENTS.

I WILL SAY AS PART OF FUNDING, AS PART OF AS THIS ARROW MOVES TO THE RIGHT, WE CAN GET FINITE AND CLEAR ON OUR BUDGET ESTIMATES.

BECAUSE WHEN WE START WE JUST HAVE A PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

SO LIKE FOR THE EDC, WE HAVE SQUARE FOOTAGES BASED ON COMPARABLE SORT OF FACILITIES.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE START. AND AS WE DEVELOP THOSE OUT, GET THE DETAILS FIGURED OUT, WE CAN GET BETTER COSTS.

AND SO THAT IS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.

AND SO SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE IN A, FOR LIKE THE PRE-DESIGN MIGHT SEEM REALLY LARGE.

THEY MAY COME DOWN SOME.

BUT IN TRUTH AS THE PROJECT TAKES LONGER THEY MAY BE PRETTY ACCURATE.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP RECORDS OF THAT TO SORT OF HAVE BETTER DATA IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD, HOW WE ESTIMATE.

THAT SAID COSTS CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE SKYROCKETED.

AND AS PART OF THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

WE'VE ALSO LEARNED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS WHEN WE GET TO THIS, AND ACTUALLY PART OF THE PERMITTING COSTS, BECAUSE WE ARE NOW HAVING TO PAY FOR BIO MONITORS DURING CONSTRUCTION, CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT COME TO THE FORE, WHICH ARE BOTH VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT THOSE ARE COSTS THAT WE ALWAYS HAVEN'T HAD CONSIDERED, BOTH IN THE PLANNING AND THE DESIGN PROCESS, BUT ALSO IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO PAY FOR CULTURAL MONITORS AND BIO MONITORS OUT THERE WHILE WE DO GROUND DISTURBANCE AND OR OTHER.

DIRECTOR ROSARIO.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S A CORRELATION.

WHEN WE DO WE ANNUALLY DO OUR BEACON ECONOMICS FORECAST.

IS THERE A CORRELATION BETWEEN CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE BEACON FORECAST? NO? I'M GOING TO DEFER TO OUR AGM OF FINANCE.

HI, DEB SPAULDING AGM OF FINANCE AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

SO THE BEACON PROJECTION THAT WE GET IS JUST WHAT ARE THE PROPERTY TAX, THE ASSESSED VALUE? HOW IS THAT GOING TO INCREASE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? BUT CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE INCREASED AT A MUCH, MUCH HIGHER RATE UNFORTUNATELY.

SO I'M SURE THERE'S YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE WERE TO PLOT IT OUT, I'M SURE THERE'S CORRELATION, BUT IT'S NOT AT ALL LIKE ONE FOR ONE OR ANYTHING VERY DIRECT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

I CAN ACTUALLY COMMENT ON.

SO I CAN JUST SHARE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT I DID WHEN I WORKED AT AUTODESK.

I DID DO THE FORECASTING OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND ALL THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AUTODESK IS THE BIG SOFTWARE MAKER FOR ALL THE, YOU KNOW, RENDERINGS THAT WE SEE AND AUTOCAD AND THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY ROLE.

SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THAT WAS IT THE CONSTRUCTION BLUE BOOK WAS ONE SOURCE THAT WOULD BE USED.

SO BUT THEN WE ALSO HAD A JOKE AT AUTODESK BECAUSE THE OFFICES WERE IN DOWNTOWN SAN FRANCISCO, THAT IF YOU JUST LOOK OUT AND IF YOU SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF CRANES, THAT MEANS CONSTRUCTION IS DOING WELL IN THE BAY AREA.

SO THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES, BUT I THINK FOR US WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO, I GUESS, ALLOCATE FUNDS TO STUDY THAT AND GET A REVIEW OF IT. THANK YOU.

AND THEN LASTLY ON THIS SLIDE, I THINK WHAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED EARLIER TOO, IS THAT A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS AND AGAIN, TO THE UNIQUE SITES AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING THAT WE HAVE, IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE CAPITAL COST OF CONSTRUCTION, WE THEN HAVE MONITORING AND MAINTENANCE FOR THE MITIGATIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE IN

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SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE BUILT A STAGING AREA IN A GRASSLAND AND THERE'S IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE RED LEGGED FROG HABITAT, WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR AGENCIES AND THEY WOULD SAY, OH, YOU NEED TO MITIGATE IT 3 TO 1.

SO ELSEWHERE IN THE SITE, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT AREA AND THEN DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO WETLANDS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

AND SO THAT SCOPE OF WORK, ONCE WE'RE DONE, HAS TO BE MONITORED AND REPORTED.

AND SO THAT'S A SCOPE OF WORK THAT TAKES ANYWHERE DEPENDING ON THE REGULATORY AGENCY 5 TO 10 YEARS.

AND SO THAT'S A COST INCURRED BY THE DISTRICT.

SO AGAIN, JUST THINKING ABOUT CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WHAT THE COSTS ARE, THEY EXTEND A LOT OF TIMES FOR OUR PROJECTS BEYOND BECAUSE OF OUR UNIQUE SENSITIVE SITES AND EVEN FOR LIKE STAGING AREAS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO MITIGATE.

SO DIRECTOR WAESPI READ YOU I YOUR STATEMENTS OF HOW MANY WE LOSE A LOT OF TIME IN THE PARK DISTRICT WITH BIOMONITORING AND DOING THE RIGHT THING, ESSENTIALLY.

YES. I WAS WONDERING, DO WE DO YOU I MEAN, SOMEHOW WE.

HAVE YOU COMPUTED HOW MANY DAYS WE'VE LOST BASED ON A RED FLAG ALERT? BECAUSE THAT'S A SIMPLE STATISTIC.

I MEAN, THERE ARE RED FLAG WARNINGS IN THE PARK DISTRICT.

THERE MAY BE TEN DAYS A YEAR.

DID YOU CAN YOU FIGURE OR GUESS HOW MANY HOURS WE'VE LOST DUE TO THAT? I CAN I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER ON ME.

I THINK I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NUMBER, SO I MEAN, I DO, BUT WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WE HAVE OUR OWN PROFESSIONAL FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND I KNOW ON A RED FLAG ALERT DAY, THEY WOULD BE BUSY. BUT WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT A FIRE TRUCK RIGHT NEXT TO A JOB SITE SO WE DON'T LOSE THIS STUFF? I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS GETTING CRITICAL THAT WE NEED TO START OPENING PARKS AND DOING THINGS AND ANY ELIMINATION OF TIME.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT TRAILS, CREEKS AND PONDS THAT ELIMINATE ANYTHING WE DO IN THE CREEKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IF WE CAN ELIMINATE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS BY BEING CREATIVE AND USING OUR STAFF BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT.

AND WHEN I WAS IN THE TRADES CREW IN THE OLD DAYS, A PLUMBER WOULD ALWAYS GO OUT AND CUT A PIPE WITH A SAW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER AND START A FIRE.

AND THEN FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID, WHY DON'T YOU BRING A LABORER, ALONG WITH A BACKPACK PUMP AND PUT THE FIRE OUT? BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE DIDN'T ELIMINATE THE WORK.

WE JUST CREATED A SAFETY BARRIER FOR THAT.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, I WAS WONDERING, WITH EVERYTHING GETTING SO EXPENSIVE, I REMEMBERED HOW PROJECTS CAN'T BE DONE BASED ON SOME UNION AGREEMENTS. AND I KNOW THAT I THINK IT WAS 25,000 30 YEARS AGO.

HAS THAT LIMIT GONE UP? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS IN HERE, WHICH WE COULD DO IF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.

YEAH.

OH, GREAT. 40,000 NOW.

I GUESS YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR $40,000.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO YOUR LATTER STATEMENT IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE OR THAT'S NOT.

YEAH. I CAN ADDRESS THE FIRST COMMENT IN TERMS OF FIRE IS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY WRITTEN A WE'VE SO THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING IT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN LEARNING ABOUT AND THAT WE HAVE A TECHNICAL SPEC THAT WHAT WE USED TO DO IS COMPLY WITH OUR LEVEL ONE AND LEVEL TWO FIRE AND SORT OF MODERATE IT.

BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WRITE A TECHNICAL SPEC THAT PUTS A LOT OF THE ONUS ON THE CONTRACTOR SO THAT THEY HAVE TO TRACK IT.

AND SO THERE ARE LIMITS ON THAT.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE A WATER BUFFALO ON SITE AND THEY HAVE TO MONITOR WEATHER.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THESE CHANGING CONDITIONS.

THE RED FLAG, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS THAT TO YOUR POINT, IS THAT OUR YES, WE HAVE RESOURCES, BUT I THINK IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ON THOSE DAYS, THOSE RESOURCES ARE BETTER SUITED TO HELP THE GENERAL POPULACE THAN OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

THAT'S MY SPECULATION.

I EVEN THAT IS MY I'M UNCOMFORTABLE MAKING THESE STATEMENTS BECAUSE I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S FINE. IT'S JUST I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD.

SO ARE YOU.

SO ON A IS THAT A DISTRICT POLICY? SO IF THERE'S IF TODAY IS A RED FLAG ALERT, DO THE SWINERTON GUYS HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN UP HERE.

THEY DO NOT WE? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT IS A POLICY THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED IN OUR CONSTRUCTION.

THAT SAID, WE SPEAK TO THE FIRE CHIEF TO SEE IF THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY IN THE URBAN WILDLAND INTERFACE THAT DON'T HAVE THAT SAME RISK. AND SO TO THAT END, WE HAVE WORKED ON PROJECTS ON RED FLAG DAYS, PARTICULARLY ONES ON THE SHORELINE, LIKE THE BRICKYARD PROJECT AND EAST SHORE WAS EXEMPTED.

THIS PROJECT DOESN'T HAVE THAT INTERFACE.

AND SO THE RISK IS LESS BECAUSE WE AREN'T THERE.

SO WE HAVE WORKED.

SO I THINK WE'VE ADOPTED AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A POLICY, BUT IT'S IT'S MORE OF A PRACTICE THAT WE'VE ADOPTED IN A TECHNICAL SPEC.

AND SO I THINK WE'RE ACCOMMODATING WE'RE TRYING TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED.

GREAT. THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS SLIDE.

SO THEN I'LL SPEAK TO OUR CONSTRUCTION DELIVERY METHODS REALLY QUICKLY.

TYPICALLY WE DO DESIGN BID BUILD.

AND THAT'S HISTORICALLY WHAT WE HAVE HAD AS AN OPTION AS A PUBLIC AGENCY.

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AND THEN WE PUT IT OUT TO PUBLIC BID AGAIN.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO AWARD TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE RESPONSIBLE BIDDER.

AND SO THAT'S HOW TYPICALLY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WE'VE ENTERED INTO JOB ORDER CONTRACTING WITH THE BOARD'S APPROVAL.

I THINK IT'S GONE WELL.

THE THING ABOUT THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING IS THIS IS NOT FOR ANY NEW PROJECTS.

THIS IS FOR RESTORATION AND REPAIR TYPES OF WORK.

SO BIG RESTORATION PROJECTS WE CAN USE IT ON.

BUT ANY SORT OF NEW PROJECT WE CAN'T USE IT ON.

AND THEN LAST IS DESIGN BUILD.

AND I APOLOGIZE THIS SLIDE WAS FROM LAST YEAR AND IT SAYS POLICY WILL BE COMING TO THE BOARD SOON.

AND THE BOARD HAS ALREADY ADOPTED THE DESIGN BUILD POLICY.

SO WHAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS IS WORKING WITH LEGAL COUNSEL TO GET PAPERWORK FOR THAT.

AND WE HAVE WE ANTICIPATE USING DESIGN BUILD AS A DELIVERY PROCESS FOR THE POINT PINOLE SERVICE YARD NEXT YEAR.

AND JUST AS A BRIEF OVERVIEW DESIGN BUILD ALLOWS US TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH AN ENTITY THAT IS A DESIGNER AND A CONTRACTOR, AND THEY COME TO US EARLY ON IN THE PHASE OF THE PROJECT SO THAT THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FINALIZE THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT IT, AND HOPEFULLY AT A COST SAVINGS TO THE DISTRICT.

AND THE REASON WE'RE PICKING THE POINT PINOLE SERVICE YARD IS THAT WE HAVE OUR DISTRICT STANDARD THAT THE BOARD WENT AND LOOKED AT AT DUMBARTON QUARRY.

WE'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THAT AND APPLY THAT TO POINT PINOLE.

SO WE'RE DOING THAT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT IS A PREFABRICATED METAL STRUCTURE.

AND SO THAT REQUIRES DEFERRED APPROVALS AS PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS IN ANY WAY, SO THAT THE DESIGN BUILD WILL ALLOW US TO INCORPORATE THAT AS PART OF THE PROCESS SO THAT WE DON'T THEN GO OUT TO BID AND THEN ENTER INTO CONTRACT, AND THEN HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CITY FOR APPROVALS THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO DO.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT IT ACTUALLY WILL HELP US STREAMLINE THAT PROJECT.

OKAY, SO WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, NOW WE'LL JUMP INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PRIORITIZATION PROCESS.

AND WE WENT INTO THIS A BIT LAST YEAR AT SORT OF GREAT LENGTH.

I KIND OF WALKED US THROUGH ALL THAT.

BUT TO THAT END I'M GOING TO I HAVE HERE THE SCORING SHEETS, SO I HAVE COPIES FOR EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU. AND WHAT I'M HANDING OUT IS ARE THE CRITERIA FOR THIS.

SO WHAT I'VE JUST GIVEN YOU ARE THE QUESTIONS, AND WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE WHEN I SHOW YOU THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.

BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE TO THE GM'S POINT AND TO KEN'S EARLIER CONVERSATION IS THAT IN 2022, THE BOARD ADOPTED THE CAPITAL PROJECT PRIORITIZATION POLICY. SO IT'S TAKEN US SOME TIME TO FULLY UTILIZE AND PUT THAT TO GOOD USE.

BUT THIS YEAR HAS BEEN STATED THIS WAS THE OUTLINE OF HOW WE WOULD SUGGEST TO USE THAT IN THIS FIRST YEAR OF ACCUMULATING ALL OF THESE, I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE AGGREGATED THESE FIRST THREE ARROWS INTO THESE MEETINGS THAT KEN MENTIONED.

AND SO AS PART OF THIS, WE HAD ALL OF THOSE THE CHIEFS, THE AGM'S AND THE GM AT THESE MEETINGS SO THAT WE COULD ALL DISCUSS THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND SCORED THESE.

SO THE DEPARTMENTS SCORED THEIR PROJECTS AND THAT'S ATTACHMENT B.

SO I GUESS THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GO.

AND IN TERMS OF WHERE WE HOW WE DID THE PROCESS THIS YEAR, JUST WE COMBINED ALL THREE FIRST ARROWS SO THAT EVERYBODY WAS PRIVY TO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT IS THE FIRST STAB AT THIS. WE WANTED EVERYONE TO BE THERE, TO GIVE INPUT, HEAR HOW IT'S GOING, AND THEN WE'RE NOW PRESENTING TO YOU WHAT OUR RESULTS ARE.

AND I THINK THE ULTIMATE GOAL BEING THAT THEN THIS BECOMES PART OF AS THIS MAYBE STUDY SESSION MOVES BACK TO EARLIER IN THE YEAR, IT BECOMES INFORMATIVE OF THE BUDGET CYCLE AS IT GOES. SO THE RESULT OF ALL THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE OUR EXECUTIVE TYPE TEAM IS THIS LIST, WHICH IS ATTACHMENT B WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET. AND SO THIS COVERS AND CAPTURES 216 PROJECTS WITH CPP SCORES.

SO THEY'RE GROUPED BY DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT AND WHEN IT'S THAT DEPARTMENT IS THE PROJECT OR THE DEPARTMENT THAT SUGGESTED THE PROJECT AND THEN SCORED IT.

AND THEN THEY'RE RANKED AND THEN LISTED THROUGH BY THE CPP SCORE.

SO THE TOP PORTION ARE THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

AND THE ONES THAT ARE NOT ASTERISKED ARE THE ONES THAT CORRELATE TO ATTACHMENT A.

SO WE JUST PUT THOSE IN SO THAT YOU COULD SEE IN THIS FULL SCOPE WHAT OUR ACTIVE PROJECTS ARE, AND SORT OF THE SCORES THAT CORRELATE TO THE REST.

AS YOU GET DOWN INTO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THEY'RE BOTH ACT.

SO THIS LIST AGAIN IS ACTIVE AND FUTURE PROPOSED PROJECTS.

AND I THINK THE ACTIVE ONES, THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ONE ARE THE TOP OF THE LIST, AND THE REST ARE PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE VETTED AND SORT OF PUT INTO THIS QUEUE AS TO HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS BEST? OR WHICH ONES ARE WE GOING TO START FIRST? I GUESS PRIORITY, AS THE NAME IMPLIES.

SO THIS WAS THE RESULT OF, AS STATED, NUMEROUS MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS.

AND THEN THESE AGAIN, JUST FOR A REMINDER, THESE ARE THE TEN CRITERIA AND THESE CORRELATE TO THE HANDOUT I JUST GAVE YOU ALL THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE PACKET.

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AND SO HERE'S THE TEN CRITERIA.

AND THEY EACH HAVE POINTS.

THERE ARE 2 TO 3 QUESTIONS IN THE FORMS THAT I GAVE YOU THAT ARE YES NO QUESTIONS.

AND SO TO THAT END IF IT GETS 1 OR 2 YESES, THEN IT'S FULL POINTS.

SO THEY GET THE FULL 15 POINTS.

THERE'S NO BREAKING THOSE OUT.

SO JUST FOR CLARITY, THAT'S WHERE WE SO THE TOTAL SCORE OF A MAX SCORE IS 135.

THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS THAT YOU'LL SEE SOME PROJECTS WITH E AND THAT'S ESSENTIAL.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO THAT BY SOME SORT OF REGULATORY REQUIREMENT, OR IT'S AN EMERGENCY KIND OF REPAIR PROJECT.

SO THAT SAID, AND I LIKE I SAID, WE DID THIS LAST YEAR, BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, WE PULLED TWO PROJECTS FROM THE AND SHARED THE SCORING SHEETS. SO THESE SHOW TWO PROJECTS.

ONE IS A TIDEWATER DAY USE AREA AND THE OTHER BEING THE POINT PINOLE SERVICE YARD.

AND SO THE PROCESS BEING IS THAT FOR EACH ONE OF THESE, THE DEPARTMENT WOULD GO THROUGH OOPS, SORRY.

AND THEN SCORE BASED ON THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE A PART OF THAT ATTACHMENT.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT.

THIS IS FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

BUT THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED AND SORT OF HIGHLIGHTED IS THAT AND IT'S INDICATED BY THESE IS POINT PINOLE FACILITIES THAT ARE SORT OF MORE OF OPERATIONAL, DON'T TEND TO SCORE AS HIGH BECAUSE SOME OF THE HIGHER RANKING OR MORE WEIGHTED CRITERIA, SUCH AS HABITAT AND RESOURCE CONSERVATION, DON'T NECESSARILY CORRESPOND TO A SERVICE YARD DEVELOPMENT.

ADDITIONALLY, THE INCREASED ACCESS AND PUBLIC INCREASE AND ENHANCING PUBLIC ACCESS SOMETIMES DOESN'T CORRELATE TO THAT EITHER.

SO WE NOTED THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, THERE MIGHT BE SOME FLAWS THAT WE'RE MISSING IN TERMS OF THAT, IN TERMS OF JUST RANKING, BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE WEIGHTED HEAVILY ONE WAY MORE OF PUBLIC ACCESS AND NEW DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THOSE PROJECTS TEND TO HAVE MORE COSTS AND OUR BIGGER PROJECTS.

AND SO I THINK IN TERMS OF BALANCING WHAT AVAILABLE FUNDS ARE, WE'VE JUST NOTED THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME CRITERIA THAT WE WANT TO ADD OR THINGS TO DISCUSS MOVING FORWARD.

DIRECTOR ROSARIO.

YEAH. IN THAT REGARD, I WAS THINKING OF TO POINT PINOLE SERVICE YARD.

I MEAN, UNDER CLIMATE PREPAREDNESS.

I MEAN, IF WE BUILD THAT SERVICE YARD, YOU WOULD ELIMINATE ALL THOSE DIESEL.

THE DIESEL, THE CARBON THAT THAT IS BEING PUT UP BY ALL THOSE DIESEL GENERATORS THAT POWER THAT SERVICE YARD.

I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S HUGE.

AND IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

YES. TOO LONG.

AND THEN THE HEALTH OF THE YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE HEALTH OF THE EMPLOYEES, TOO, THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING THERE FOR LONG TERM.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL.

GREAT. APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S A REALLY GREAT POINT.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THE STAFF FACILITIES FOR ME, YOU KNOW, POP UP TO THE TOP OF THE LIST HOW THEY GET ACTUALLY CAPTURED ON THE SCORING.

WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

SO THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT POINT.

THANK YOU. I THINK A LOGICAL QUESTION THAT MANY FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO WOULD BE IN THE EQUITY CATEGORY.

SURE. I THINK IT REVOLVES AROUND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.

IS THAT SORT OF THE FOCUS OF IT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY THAT IN ORDER TO.

SO THERE IS. IT QUALIFIES FOR A SCORE OR NOT BECAUSE IT'S A YES OR NO.

RIGHT. YES. AND TO THAT END THAT IF THE PACKET I GAVE YOU ON THE SECOND PAGE, IT DESCRIBES THAT AND THERE'S AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT HAS THE PARK.

AND IF IT'S A YES NO.

SO IT IS A YES NO.

AND WE'RE DEFERRING TO I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S ON YOUR SECOND PAGE.

IT DESCRIBES THE TWO SEPARATE.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT ECHOLS.

SO IT IS THERE IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

DIRECTOR MERCURIO. ALL RIGHT. GOOD.

THANK YOU. YEP.

DIRECTOR SANWONG ON THAT TOPIC, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE MY NOTES FROM WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR.

SO I AM GOING TO BE REPEATING SOME OF WHAT I MENTIONED LAST YEAR.

THIS ONLY TAKES INTO ACCOUNT WHAT IS THE CURRENT SITUATION, ALTHOUGH IT DOES HAVE PLAN BAY AREA 2050.

I DON'T BELIEVE THIS INCLUDES THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION RHNA AS WELL AS PLANNED HOUSING PROJECTS.

AND WITH RHNA THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR BELOW MARKET RATE HOUSING UNITS TO BE BUILT, AND THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT MAY HAVE A HIGHER RHNA

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AND THEN ALSO WITH THIS.

SO SO THERE'S THAT RHNA REQUIREMENT.

AND THEN THERE IS THE ONGOING OR THE NEAR TERM HOUSING PROJECTS THAT ALSO MAY BE COMING UP.

THAT I DON'T THINK EQUITY IS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE WITHIN A LOT OF THESE LARGER HOUSING PROJECTS, THERE IS GOING TO BE BELOW MARKET RATE COMPONENT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE.

AND THEN ALSO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS PLAYS INTO HERE, MAYBE CLIMATE PREPAREDNESS, BUT ALSO JUST I MEAN THIS WEEK WITH, WITH OUR HEAT, THINKING ABOUT HEAT AND BEING ABLE TO GET RELIEF FROM HEAT.

AND I THINK THAT WE PROVIDE A LOT OF THAT PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF OUR WARMER COMMUNITIES LIKE, YOU KNOW, PLEASANTON AND LIVERMORE.

I THINK SHADOW CLIFFS AND DEL VALLE ARE SO IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO ESCAPE.

I MEAN, IT'S HOT HERE.

IT'S EVEN HOTTER OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, TODAY.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT GETS FACTORED IN TO SOME OF THIS.

AND THEN THE THIRD POINT, I THINK A LOT OF THE RHNA HOUSING ALLOCATIONS ARE BASED ON NUMBER OF JOBS.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL TRYING TO PROCESS THIS.

I MENTIONED THIS AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING RECENTLY ABOUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY PROPERTIES AND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE COLLECT.

AND I THINK THAT THERE IS ALSO A POINT TO BE MADE ABOUT JOBS AND PEOPLE AND EMPLOYEES THAT ARE MAYBE COMMUTING INTO COMMUNITIES AND WORKING AT COMMUNITIES AND HAVING ACCESS TO OUR PARKS. AND SO THE RESIDENTS MAY NOT THAT THE CURRENT RESIDENTS MAY NOT ALWAYS REFLECT THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE AREA.

AND RHNA IS SUPPOSED TO HELP BALANCE THAT OUT.

BUT UNTIL THOSE HOUSING UNITS AND THOSE BELOW MARKET RATE HOUSING UNITS ARE BUILT, THERE MAY STILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN IMBALANCE.

BUT THAT'S STILL ALSO ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACTOR TO CONSIDER, EITHER WITHIN EQUITY OR MAYBE ONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES THAT I DIDN'T REALLY SEE IN THESE QUESTIONS.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

SO THIS NEXT SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS THE LESSONS LEARNED.

AND I'LL START THIS. AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KATIE DIGNAN, WHO WILL THEN TAKE THIS AND START TO TALK ABOUT OUR FINANCING AND HOW WE ARE UTILIZING THIS TO HONE IN ON A FIVE YEAR CIP. GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

KATIE DIGNAN ASSISTANT FINANCE OFFICER.

SO AS WE MENTIONED, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK YOU'VE PROVIDED THUS FAR.

I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST IS, JUST AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE SCORES, LIKE REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE PROJECT IS MISSING FROM THE FORMS. AND SO WE NEED TO ADJUST THEM TO, TO RECORD WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR IN THE PROJECT.

SO AS OTHER PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE REVIEWING THIS, THEY CAN EVALUATE HOW THE PROJECT WAS SCORED.

AS I MENTIONED, WE KEY TO NOTE IS THE SUPPORT FACILITIES.

AND ALSO TRAILS TEND TO HAVE LOWER SCORES AS SOME OF THE CRITERIA ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

SO WE WANT TO REALLY DIVE INTO WHAT CAN WE ADD OR WHAT ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT CAN WE DO TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOSE PROJECTS, AS THEY STILL ARE PRIORITIES, AND WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO INCLUDE THOSE IN OUR CRITERIA.

A NUMBER OF THE PROJECTS WITH LOWER CPP SCORES HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN FUNDED FOR PRELIMINARY PHASE, BUT WORK HAS BEEN DELAYED OR NOT PROGRESSED AND THIS HAS HAPPENED WITH LIMITED STAFF RESOURCES, MAYBE CONSTRUCTION FEASIBILITY, OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND AND OTHER PERMITTING REGULATORY ISSUES.

SO AS WE MOVE INTO THE BUDGET, WE'VE BEEN REALLY DIVING INTO THESE PROJECTS AND LOOKING AT UNSPENT BALANCES ON DELAYED PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED FOR REALLOCATION.

AND SO WE PLAN TO BRING THESE FORWARD TO YOU IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET SEASON FOR THINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE LESSONS WE'VE LEARNED THUS FAR.

WE WANTED TO KIND OF NOW OPEN UP FOR A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION.

ORIGINALLY WE HAD SAID THAT THE CPP SCORE WOULD DETERMINE FUNDING PRIORITIES, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S KIND OF IT'S NOT THAT EASY TO JUST SAY THIS IS THE HIGHEST SCORE PROJECT.

THIS IS WHERE ALL THE FUNDING SHOULD BE GOING TO RIGHT NOW.

SO ONE OF THE ASPECTS WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING TO DO THE PROJECT.

AND HOW BIG IS THE SCOPE, AND ALSO WHERE ARE WE IN RELATION TO ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THE QUEUE.

AND AS THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH DESIGN, SHOULD SOMETHING THAT'S SCORED HIGH, THAT'S IN PRE-DESIGN GO FORWARD BEFORE SOMETHING THAT'S SCORED LOW, THAT'S READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'VE SPENT YEARS DESIGNING.

SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO START CONSIDERING AS WE GO INTO THIS PROCESS.

ALSO FOR DEPARTMENT PRIORITY NEEDS THIS YEAR, SOME NEW PROJECTS HAVE KIND OF RAISED TO THE TOP THAT DIDN'T GET THE HIGHEST CPP SCORES, BUT IT'S INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING SAFE AND SECURE WORKING ENVIRONMENTS FOR OUR TEAM MEMBERS AND STAFF.

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CONSTRUCTION FEASIBILITY AND TIMELINE, AS I SAID, IS AN ISSUE.

AND THEN HOW WE EVOLVE THIS INTO THE SECOND CENTURY DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

SO WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR BEFORE I MOVE INTO THE CAPITAL FUNDING TO KIND OF GET YOUR GUYS' FEEDBACK THUS FAR OF WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU.

YES. DIRECTOR WAESPI.

CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A DELAYED PROJECT WITH UNSPENT BALANCES THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR REALLOCATION TO ANOTHER PROJECT SOMEWHERE ELSE? SURE. THERE WAS ONE THAT WE RECENTLY IDENTIFIED WHERE WE WERE DOING AN ASSESSMENT OF OF THE TIDEWATER BUILDING FOR STAFFING FOR THE SERVICE.

YEAH. AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE STAFF AREA FOR WE HAD PUT 65,000 OF FUNDS TOWARDS TO DO THAT ALLOCATION STUDY.

WELL, WHEN THEY WENT IN AND STARTED JUST ASSESSING IT, IT WAS GOING TO MEAN THAT WE'D HAVE TO TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN, ADD ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.

IT JUST WAS WAY BEYOND WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO ADD WORKSPACES FOR THE STAFF THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THERE.

SO THAT'S A PROJECT THAT THAT WE'RE THINKING OF REALLOCATING FUNDING FOR.

ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S COMING TO MIND.

I'M SORRY, I'M STILL NEW TO THE DISTRICT.

AND GETTING THINGS IS POSSIBLY.

OH, YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS.

IS THAT SO THAT'S TIDEWATER IS A GREAT ONE.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE FUNDING FROM OTHER PROJECTS TO REALLOCATE TO TIDEWATER.

YES. WELL, I THINK THE RUB IS GOING TO BE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE, HERE'S [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT AND PUT IT INTO TIDEWATER AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT LIST IF IT'S IF IT'S OUT THERE.

YES. AND WE'D BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO YOU AS PART OF THE BUDGET.

IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THAT.

IT'D BE COMING FORWARD WITH THESE, WITH THESE PROJECTS AND GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION ON IT.

BUT WE'RE JUST SCOURING THE LIST, FIGURING OUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THESE SITUATIONS ARE AND WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT BE.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

YES. I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF AN EXAMPLE, ALTHOUGH IT HAS TO DO WITH MEASURE WW AND CITY OF OAKLAND'S ALLOCATION.

THERE'S A THEY CURRENTLY HAVE $400,000 IN A PROJECT THAT I CONFIRMED WITH SEAN DOUGAN ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN NOT IN THREE YEARS BEFORE IT GOES.

SO I'M WORKING WITH TRYING TO WORK WITH CITY OF OAKLAND TO TRY TO REALLOCATE THAT TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO IT, YOU GET TO A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS THE CALDECOT TUNNEL TRAIL CONNECTION TRAIL, AND THERE'S SOME ZOMBIE LANDOWNERS THERE THAT WE HAVE NO, NO WAY OF CONTACTING THEM SO THE PROJECT'S BASICALLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THREE YEARS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MOVE THAT MONEY TO ANOTHER PROJECT THAT THEY WANT TO DO.

SO ONE OF THEM IS ONE OF MY PET PROJECTS THAT I HAVE A PET PROJECT IN THE CITY OF OAKLAND, BUT SO THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE FRAME THIS UP.

AND I MEAN, DIRECTOR WAESPI, YOU GET TO EXACTLY THE RUB OF THIS AND THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, PURPOSE OF THE EXERCISE IS THAT IF WE KEEP SAYING YES TO EVERYTHING, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'VE SPREAD THE PEANUT BUTTER SO THINLY ACROSS, IT'S NOT THAT WE WON'T DO THE PROJECT, IT'S JUST THAT IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN WE DO THE PROJECT.

SO IT'S A MATTER OF THE PRIORITIZATION.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS AND WITH SOME RHINOCEROS SKIN HERE BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT OF WHEN WE COME FORWARD.

AND THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT MAY BE ON A LIST FOR A VERY, VERY, VERY LONG TIME.

MAYBE THEY WERE IN AA, MAYBE THEY WERE IN WW, BUT THEY'RE NOT ONES THAT REALISTICALLY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 2 TO 5 YEARS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO IT DOESN'T COME COMPLETELY OFF OF A LIST.

IT JUST MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO REALISTICALLY HAPPEN NOW.

AND THOSE DOLLARS COULD GO TO ONE OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE DESPERATE FOR FUNDING TO COMPLETE IT.

SO I JUST WANT TO FRAME IT CORRECTLY THAT IT'S NOT A NEVER ON THESE PROJECTS.

THEY'RE ALL WORTHY.

I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S ONE EACH OF YOU COULD PICK OFF AND SAY, NO, MAYBE.

MAYBE IT'S THE TRAIL TO NOWHERE.

I AGREE, I AGREE WITH YOU.

[LAUGHTER] BUT BUT ALL OF THEM ARE, YOU KNOW, VALID, PROJECTS.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN WE DO THEM.

YEAH. THANKS. THANK YOU.

AND IF I COULD ADD, I MEAN, THE MARTIN LUTHER KING'S SERVICE, I MEAN, THAT'S ANOTHER I MEAN, THAT CREW'S BEEN UNDER DURESS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TRY TO COMPLETE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

BUT THANK YOU.

BUT I'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT SORRY FOR MY. MICROPHONE.

OH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

ALL THIS TALK ABOUT PET PROJECTS HAS TRIGGERED ME.

[LAUGHTER] YES.

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PERMISSION. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PET PROJECTS.

BUT SERIOUSLY, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WHAT ALL OF US ON THIS BOARD OF DIRECTORS BRING TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MUCH OF ITS SUCCESS OVER THE LAST 90 YEARS AND ESPECIALLY IN RECENT DECADES, IS THAT EACH OF US REALLY WORK HARD AT THE CONSTANT BALANCING OF THE PURSUIT OF OUR RESOURCES.

AND IF I'M EVER ASKED, YOU KNOW WHAT ARE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE BIG ISSUE IF WE'RE IN ELECTIONS FOR OUR BOARD OR WHAT? WHAT ARE THE BIG ISSUES FOR YOU ON YOUR BOARD? AND MY ANSWER HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE ABILITY OF THE BOARD TO ASSESS THE MULTITUDE AND VASTNESS OF COMPETING RESOURCES, COMPETITION FOR OUR RESOURCES, BE IT FOR ON ONE EXTREME, MAYBE VERY ACTIVE RECREATIONAL USES THAT FOLKS OUT THERE WANT AGGRESSIVE BICYCLE PARKS OR, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF USE AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM OF MAYBE AUDUBON REALLY BEING ACTIVELY PURSUING THE ACQUISITION OF LAND JUST FOR HABITAT. NO HUMAN ACCESS, BUT TO PRESERVE HABITAT.

AND WHAT THIS PARK DISTRICT HAS REALLY DONE VERY WELL.

AND IT'S A COMBINATION OF WHAT WE AS A BOARD KNOW FROM BEING OUT THERE AND MANAGEMENT KNOWS IS BALANCING THAT AND COMING OUT WITH OUTCOMES THAT DISAPPOINT AS FEW PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE AS THE SAYING GOES.

AND WE'RE VERY GOOD AT THAT.

SO WE, WE HAVE OUTCOMES WHEN WE DO THAT BALANCING.

NOW THAT BRINGS ME TO HOW WE DO THAT.

PET PROJECTS OR WHATEVER.

BUT WE DO THAT AS A BOARD IN OUR WORK ON ANNUAL PRIORITIZATION, RIGHT? WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THAT.

AND AS OPPOSED TO PRE YOU KNOW, PRE LANDRETH ERA.

OUR PRIORITIZATION THAT THAT PROCESS LEADS TO FEEDBACK THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT PUT ON A SHELF BUT ACTIVELY REVIEWED BY US, ACTIVELY REVIEWED BY MANAGEMENT.

IN OUR LAST BOARD PACKET, WE HAD AMANDA'S JUNE UPDATE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ALL THE PRIORITIES.

AND WE HAVE THIS FASCINATING BREAKDOWN WHERE OF ALL OF US, WHEN YOU SET FORTH OUR PRIORITIES, ONLY 8% OF IT AFFECTED THE IMMEDIATE BUDGET.

AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S 30 TO 40% OF THOSE PRIORITIES ARE PROJECTS WHAT WE'RE STUDYING TODAY SO THAT THAT PROCESS THAT WE ENDEAVOR ANNUALLY AND WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT IN AS A BOARD AND MANAGEMENT PUTS TOGETHER IN THAT PIECE THAT AMANDA JUST CIRCULATED FOR OUR BOARD PACKET.

IT RESULTS IN A LISTING OF A LOT OF PROJECTS, MANY OF WHICH SHOW UP HERE, MANY OF WHICH DON'T.

WE HAVE MY JOKE IS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME OF MY PROJECTS END UP IN A CATEGORY THAT BASICALLY SAYS DIRECTOR, NOT IN YOUR LIFETIME.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ON HOLD.

IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

SOME OF THEM, SURPRISINGLY, ARE VERY ACTIVE.

AND SO THIS IS WHAT I APPRECIATE ABOUT THE PROCESS.

SO LONG WINDED WAY TO GET TO WHAT I'M ASKING NOW.

AND THAT IS HOW DO WE TRANSLATE THAT INTO THIS PROCESS? HOW DO WE TRANSLATE THOSE PRIORITIES THAT THE BOARD HAS WORKED ON INTO? AND I CAN BE VERY SPECIFIC.

WE HAVE A SLIDE ON PROJECT DELIVERY.

AND UNDER PROJECT ORIGINATION IT HAS BOARD PRIORITIES.

SO MY QUESTION IT'S PROBABLY TO THE GM AND THE AGM ON THIS FIRST PART IS HOW DO THOSE PRIORITIES THAT WE WORK ON WORK THEIR WAY INTO PROJECT ORIGINATION AS IT'S SET FORTH ON THAT SLIDE, HOW DO THOSE PRIORITIES WORK THEIR WAY INTO CURRENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PRIORITIZATION PROCESS?

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HOW DO THESE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE AND END UP IN ORIGINATION AND THEN OF A PROJECT THEN END UP HERE.

AND LASTLY THE PRIORITIZATION CRITERIA EVALUATION SHEETS AND THE SCORING EXAMPLES I'M LOOKING AT, I'M BEING A LITTLE JUST PARTIALLY FACETIOUS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A CATEGORY FOR BOARD MEMBER PET PROJECTS.

RIGHT. IT HAS, YOU KNOW, EQUITY AND ALL.

YOU KNOW ALL THE TEN VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT SCORING CRITERIA, PROJECT READINESS, OPERATING EFFICIENCIES, PUBLIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND ALL THAT.

BUT YET, I THINK IF YOU GAVE ALL OF US THE SCORE SHEETS, YOU WOULD SEE A HIGH CORRELATION OF PRIORITIZATION TO THAT WORK WE DO EVERY YEAR.

WHEN WE COME UP WITH OUR OWN SCORING SHEETS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF US THAT CONTINUE.

PERHAPS I WAS I'VE ASKED WHETHER WE SHOULD BE ASPIRATIONAL IN THOSE ANNUAL PRIORITIES, BUT A VISITOR CENTER POINT PINOLE I PUT IT BACK BECAUSE I WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE GM TO BE ASPIRATIONAL.

SO IT'S FULLY POSSIBLE IF THERE WAS A PET PROJECT CATEGORY TO SCORE HERE.

POINT PINOLE VISITOR CENTER WOULD GET A REALLY HIGH SCORE AND BUT IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I'M KIND OF JOKING ABOUT THE PET PROJECT, BUT IT DOES.

I AM POINTING OUT THAT THERE'S THE ORIGINATION OF A PROJECT, PART OF THIS PROCESS.

THERE'S BOARD ACTUAL APPROVAL OF A FUNDING IN A BUDGET.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS SCORING PROCESS.

AND I'M WONDERING, THIS IS LONG WINDED, BUT I'VE JUST SAVED IT UP TO COVER ALL OF WHAT I SEE HERE IS HOW DOES OUR WORK IN BALANCING THE COMPETITION FOR OUR RESOURCES? AND WHAT I THINK WE DO REALLY WELL IN THAT BALANCE.

HOW DOES THAT ULTIMATELY END UP INTO THE PROJECTS IN THIS FIVE YEAR LIST? IS THAT I'M SORRY FOR BEING LONG, BUT.

THERE'S A SERIES OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'M UNDERSTANDING WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

AND IT'S A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE WORD STRUGGLING BECAUSE THAT'S A STRONG WORD, BUT KIND OF IT'S BEEN AN ITERATIVE PROCESS OF KIND OF THIS GENERAL QUESTION. I THINK LISA GOORJIAN LIKES TO SAY, HOW DOES A PROJECT BECOME A PROJECT, RIGHT, IN A GENERIC WAY? EVERYBODY SAYS THAT. [LAUGHTER] LISA SAYS, OKAY, GREAT.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HER CREDIT TODAY.

SO THERE SO I WILL JUST TELL YOU THE BOARD PRIORITIZATION OR, YOU KNOW, PET PROJECTS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT HAPPENS THROUGH THE FORMAL, YOU KNOW, SUMMER PROCESS.

THOSE ARE GETTING WORKED THROUGH THIS MONTHLY GROUP MEETING THAT WE HAVE.

AND THEY'RE ON A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ONGOING LIST.

WHAT WE'RE I GUESS I'LL USE THE WORD STRUGGLING ON THIS ONE, WHAT WE'RE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT AT THIS POINT.

AND REN USED THE WORD LEGACY, WHICH I THINK WE'RE USING FOR A LOT OF THINGS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN IMAGINE ALL OF YOUR PREDECESSORS HELPED CREATE THIS HUGE LIST.

RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE OKAY, WE THAT SOMEBODY COMES OFF THE BOARD AND NO LONGER IS A PRIORITY.

MAYBE SOMETIMES.

AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, I MEAN, AND I SAID IT KIND OF IN A JOKING WAY EARLIER TO DIRECTOR ROSARIO, BUT LIKE.

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

[LAUGHTER] YES.

NOT WITH HIS ITEMS. NEVER. NEVER WITH HIS ITEMS. BUT IT IS TRUE.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHY YOU DO WANT TO DO THIS.

REFRESH AND LOOK AT YOUR FIVE YEAR PLAN EVERY YEAR.

BECAUSE THERE COULD BE THINGS AGAIN, THAT MADE A TON OF SENSE WAY BACK WHEN OR WHEN YOU PASSED A BOND MEASURE BUT AGAIN, FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

JUST DON'T DON'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE ANYMORE OR AREN'T HIGH HIGH ENOUGH PRIORITY TO THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS, RIGHT, AS THE POLICY MAKERS.

SO THAT IS A I THINK THAT'S AN ONGOING QUESTION.

THE ITEMS THAT YOU ALL DO BRING FORWARD DO GET INCORPORATED INTO THIS.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT DID I WHAT DID I CALL I COINED SOME PHRASE WITH KATY THE OTHER DAY.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE LIST BEYOND THE FIVE YEARS.

YEAH, THE OUT YEAR.

THE FUTURE LIST. YEAH.

SO WE'RE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT WHERE DOES THAT SHOW UP HERE SO THAT THEY'RE CAPTURED, THEY'RE NOT QUITE AT THEY'RE NOT RIPE YET FOR KIND OF PRE-DESIGN OR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS FIRST.

BUT YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT.

I DON'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER FOR YOU OTHER THAN I WILL TELL YOU, THE ONES THAT YOU DO BRING UP ARE GETTING INCORPORATED IN HERE WHERE THEY'RE NOT BEING LOST.

THEIR DISCUSSED AND THEY GET SCORED WHERE THEY LAND.

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AND WE'LL BE BACK HERE IN MARCH, IN MARCH.

AND MAYBE THESE GUYS CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT IN MARCH, WE'RE HOPING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS LIST A LITTLE BIT MORE REFINED AND BE ABLE TO WORK OURSELVES TOWARDS THAT KIND OF. OKAY, LOOK AT THE AND I WILL TELL YOU, I USE THE POINT PINOLE VISITOR CENTER ALL THE TIME AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE DOES THAT WHERE DOES THAT LAND IN HERE. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS IN A PLAN IN 2016, I WANT TO SAY, AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I COULD BE WRONG.

BUT IT WAS ON A LIST, RIGHT? YEAH. AND SO IS THAT STILL RELEVANT? IS IT NOT? RIGHT.

AND HAVING CONTINUAL CHECK INS WITH THE CURRENT BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL A PRIORITY.

SO YOU RAISE A GREAT QUESTION.

I DON'T HAVE A PERFECT ANSWER.

I'M BEING HONEST. THIS IS STILL A REALLY ITERATIVE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANYTHING TO ADD TO KIND OF WHERE HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT KIND OF BIGGER LIST.

NO, I THINK THIS YEAR WHAT WE WERE THINKING IN THE BUDGET BOOK WAS TO HAVE THESE FUTURE PROJECTS SO THAT THEY'RE STILL SHOWCASED.

IT'S NOT SHOWING THAT THEY'RE ON HOLD, BUT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TO COME BACK ON THE LIST.

SO WE'RE AWARE HOW MUCH LIST, HOW MUCH FUNDING THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, WHAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN SPENT TO DATE AND THEN GIVE A TRAJECTORY OF WHERE WE PLAN ON GOING WITH THOSE SO THAT THEY ARE FOREFRONT IN THE FOREFRONT, SO THEY GET ADDED TO THE NEXT LIST.

AS ONE PROJECT IS FINISHED, THEN THEY CAN GO FORWARD.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE OTHER END OF THE LIST BECAUSE YOU SAID, WELL, WE HAVE THIS PRIORITIZATION THAT'S CREATED BY THE INDEX.MAY NOT BE PERFECT.

AND JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS THE HIGHEST SCORE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST THROW ALL THE MONEY AT IT OR NECESSARILY EVEN MOVE THAT ONE FIRST.

SO SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALSO MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO WEIGH IN.

AND I WOULDN'T SAY NECESSARILY FOR OUR PET PROJECTS.

OH, SORRY.

I YEAH, THIS FORMAT IS THROWING ME OFF, BUT IT'S A GOOD FORMAT.

[LAUGHTER] YEAH. SO YEAH.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.

I WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS THIS LIST THAT'S CREATED BY THE PRIORITIZATION.

BUT I THINK I HEARD SABRINA SAY EARLIER THAT THAT WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY JUST JUST PICK THE TOP PROJECT BASED ON THE NUMBERS AND JUST GO WITH THAT.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT END FOR THE BOARD TO WEIGH IN AND SORT OF SAY, OKAY, WELL, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK IS OUT OF THIS, THE TOP FIVE OR TOP TEN.

AND I THINK THE PRIORITIZATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND I LIKE IT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THE BOARD HOPEFULLY WOULD BE PRETTY WELL ALIGNED WITH IT, GIVEN THAT THESE ARE ALL FACTORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, EQUITY AND ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT GO INTO THE INDEX.

BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THAT LIST AND JUST SEEING IT, WHAT WE THINK MIGHT NEED TO BE A LITTLE RESHUFFLED AT THE TOP, THAT WOULD BE A PLACE TO WEIGH IN.

BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH COLIN THAT ON THE OTHER END OF THE LIST, LIKE HOW DO YOU EVEN GET ON THE LIST, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES A PROJECT BECOME A PROJECT? SO, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO.

AND JUST SPECIFICALLY POINT PINOLE VISITOR CENTER.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S STILL A PRIORITY.

SO YEAH.

AND I THINK JUST ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS.

WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT SCORING, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE SET OF FACTORS, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE BLINDLY PUTTING IT THROUGH THE ALGORITHM.

RIGHT. AND THEN THAT POPS UP TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD.

AND THAT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO US.

THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS.

RIGHT. AND SO REALLY THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE BIG EFFORT IS TRYING TO INCORPORATE YOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS INTO YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS SO THAT YOU YOU DO GET TO WEIGH IN AS THE POLICYMAKERS ULTIMATELY, BECAUSE WE KNOW, AGAIN, WE LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD, THERE COULD BE ITEMS THAT WE SAY AT THE STAFF LEVEL OR WE THINK ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, AND IT COULD SCORE SUPER, SUPER HIGH FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD COULD STILL SAY, YEAH, OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHERE AGAIN, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THESE CONSTANT CHECK INS WITH YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING IT AT AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS WITH KEN'S GROUP.

THAT WAS PART OF THE EFFORTS WITH THE, THE ONE ON ONES THAT WE'RE DOING WITH YOUR WARDS.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO GET THE COMMUNITY INPUT THROUGH YOUR DISTRICT PROCESS AND ONGOING.

SO MY HOPE IS IN MARCH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE KIND OF THE HOW A PROJECT BECOMES A PROJECT.

THAT'S DEFINITELY OUR GOAL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS, BUT.

DEE. JUST AS A STRATEGY, I WAS, I WAS THINKING OF IF THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE IN THE LIST OF PRIORITIES 1 TO 10 AND NUMBER TEN ONLY NEEDS LIKE SAY 500,000, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST AMOUNT IS

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I HOPE WE CAN WE TAKE THAT I CALL IT LOW HANGING FRUIT.

GET THAT DONE.

AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE ROOM FOR, YOU KNOW, GET THAT, GET THOSE LITTLE HANGING ONES DONE.

AND THEN YOU MAKE ROOM FOR THE YOU CAN BUMP UP THE NEXT ONE.

BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO WHEN THERE'S A PROJECT THAT'S REALLY CLOSE TO GET THOSE DONE.

AND WE CAN THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST BUMPS UP THE NEXT PROJECT.

BUT ALSO WE GET SOMETHING DONE.

YEAH. YEAH, DEFINITELY.

THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION HERE WHEN WE FINALLY GOT THE LIST TOGETHER TO SEE THOSE GAPS AND REALIZING, GOSH, SOME OF THOSE ONLY ARE GOING TO TAKE A FEW FEW, BUT WE NEED TO GET THE FLEXIBILITY ON THE FUNDING IN ORDER TO KIND OF CLOSE SOME OF THOSE OUT.

SO TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH. I GUESS WE'RE WEIGHING IN ON THE CRITERIA AND SUCH.

SO MY THOUGHTS ARE.

I GUESS WE'RE WEIGHING IN ON THE CRITERIA.

MY THOUGHTS ARE THERE'S BEEN SOME KIND OF MENTION KIND OF INCIDENTALLY, HERE ABOUT SOMEHOW TRAILS AREN'T GETTING RATED MAYBE IN THE WAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING IN THAT CATEGORY THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PROMOTE. YES.

SO YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF BEAT UP ON THAT, ON THAT CRITERION THOSE ARE THE MOST POPULAR WAYS THAT PEOPLE USE THE PARK DISTRICT . THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

AND A SUBSET OF THAT IS THERE ARE SOME TRAILS EITHER EXISTING OR PROPOSED THAT ARE HEAVILY TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED.

THAT'S NOT REALLY CAPTURED HERE.

WE AND COLIN, YOU KIND OF YOU KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS.

WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL PRETTY GOOD EXPERTS IN OUR WARDS.

WE KNOW OUR WARDS.

IN SOME CASES, THE DIRECTORS HAVE CHANGED.

AND SO NOW THE DIRECTOR WHO'S IN OFFICE KNOWS A DIFFERENT PART OF THE WARD AND HAS IDEAS.

THEY'VE BEEN THINKING, GEE, DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR? HAS IDEAS THAT THEY'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT FOR DECADES, YOU KNOW, AND HAD MUCH CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH OTHER AGENCIES, TO THINK ABOUT IT, TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW THINGS GET IMPLEMENTED.

AND THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SOMEHOW.

WE MIGHT HAVE A SITUATION WHERE AN AGENCY IS REALLY INTERESTED IN FUNDING A PROJECT THAT THIS DIRECTOR HAS COME UP WITH.

THEY WANT TO PUT MONEY INTO IT.

AND YET THIS PROJECT DOESN'T GET RECOGNIZED AT ALMOST AT ALL.

YOU KNOW, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, IT'S JUST HYPOTHETICAL, BUT IT'S ALL REAL, YOU KNOW? AND THEN I GUESS.

OKAY. SO SO THERE'S THAT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL IDEAS THAT I THINK SHOULD BE SOMEHOW COME INTO THE, THE SETTING OF SETTING THE RATING OF THE PROJECTS. AND IT'S NOT REALLY CAPTURED NOW, I DON'T THINK.

CAN YOU SHARE A SPECIFIC FOR THAT HYPOTHETICAL, BECAUSE I MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THERE'S A POTENTIAL PROJECT WE COULD BUILD IN CONCORD AND GOING INTO WALNUT CREEK, WHERE AN EXISTING TRAIL, CALIFORNIA RIDING AND HIKING TRAIL COULD BE CONVERTED INTO A FIRST CLASS BICYCLE TRAIL, WHICH WOULD TIE INTO THE CANAL TRAIL AND BE A DIRECT ROUTE TO THE PLEASANT HILL BART STATION AND SEVERAL SCHOOLS. AND IT'S AND THE CITY OF CONCORD HAS DONE PRE-DESIGN ON IT ALREADY.

SO THERE YOU GO. THERE'S ANOTHER ASPECT.

SO I JUST WONDER ABOUT MAYBE IN THIS MARCH MEETING THAT WE HAVE, IF EACH OF US COULD HAVE IF THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT'S SCRATCHING US, JUST BOTHERING US, THAT WE CAN'T SEEM TO GET ANY TRACTION ON, IF WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A PITCH TO THE REST OF THE BOARD. A DETAILED PITCH LAYING OUT ALL THE ASPECTS THAT DON'T SEEM TO BE ABSORBED FULLY ENOUGH TO CAUSE THIS PROJECT TO RISE IN INTEREST.

THE INTEREST TO RISE IN THIS PROJECT, AND WITH THE HELP OF I WOULD NEED.

IF I WAS GOING TO DO THAT, I WOULD NEED SOME HELP TO DEVELOP THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND IT WOULD AND THEN IF IT DIDN'T, IF IT DIDN'T REGISTER, THEN, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD A GOOD EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE AND.

OKAY, FINE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE ALL ABLE TO ALWAYS COMMUNICATE.

WE CAN'T DO A VULCAN MIND MELD AND FIND OUT, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING THOUGHT.

YES. YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN DO A POWERPOINT, AND THAT'S ALMOST, ALMOST AS GOOD.

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THANK YOU. NEXT.

YEAH, ACTUALLY, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THIS, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION TOO.

SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT WE'RE KIND OF IN TERMS OF THE THEMES ON THE SAME LINE, BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO POINTS BESIDES, AND I GUESS I DO LIVE IN A WORLD OF FORECASTING AND LIKE PREDICTIVE MODELS.

SO JUST TO BE FAIR, YOU KNOW, SO EARLIER I MENTIONED HOUSING, BUT ALSO I THINK TRANSIT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT CRITERIA THAT I DON'T REALLY SEE REFLECTED IN OUR QUESTIONS.

AND THEN THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I WOULD DEFINE IT AS LIKE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL PROJECT OPPORTUNITIES.

SO WHETHER THERE'S A PRE-DESIGN FROM CITY OF CONCORD OR THIS POTENTIAL FOR A ZONE SEVEN PIPELINE THAT'S GOING TO BE PASSING RIGHT BY SHADOW CLIFFS LAKE, I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THESE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL PROJECT OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH.

AND IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THE DIRECTORS CHANGE OVER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT ANNE TOLD ME THAT SHE SAID WHEN YOU JOIN THIS BOARD, I EXPECT YOU TO GET A, YOU KNOW, A RELIABLE WATER SUPPLY TO SHADOW CLIFFS LAKE.

THAT WAS HER ONE THING THAT SHE SAID TO ME.

BUT I THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR HER TO GIVE ME THAT YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE.

AND I GUESS SO WITH THESE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT HOUSING, TRANSIT, MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, I DON'T THINK WE VOTED ON THE QUESTIONS.

I THINK WE REVIEWED THEM LAST YEAR.

ACCORDING TO MY RECORDS.

AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME, BUT I THINK WHEN WE HAD THESE LAST YEAR I SEE THAT IT WAS WRITTEN UP AS A PROCEDURE, BUT THEN WE NEVER CAME BACK TO IT.

AND THERE MAY ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION CRITERIA.

I KNOW THIS WAS VOTED ON IN AUGUST OF 2022, SO BEFORE YOU AND I JOINED THIS BOARD, BUT MAYBE SOME OF IT COULD BE REFINED.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD START.

RIGHT. BECAUSE NOW WE DO HAVE THIS RUBRIC AND WE DO HAVE THIS WAY TO APPLY SOME SORT OF SCORING ACROSS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS? BUT THERE ARE SOME GAPS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, AND MY THREE BIG ONES, AS I MENTIONED, ARE HOUSING, TRANSIT AND MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

AND YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY GET INTO MEASURE WW MAYBE IN A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF FUNDING SOURCES. AND ONE THING THAT I DID NOTICE, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED THAT THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY STILL LEFT FOR SUNOL AND MEASURE WW.

I WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF 2008.

RIGHT. SO THAT THAT WAS PASSED IN 2008.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT ABOUT, AGAIN, POPULATION GROWTH AND HOUSING.

SO SUNOL RIGHT NOW HAS A RESIDENTIAL POPULATION OF 922 RESIDENTS AND RESIDENTS ISN'T THE SAME AS HOUSING UNITS.

IT'S ACTUALLY HOUSING UNITS MAY BE AN INDICATOR OF MORE THAN JUST ONE UNIT, ONE PERSON.

BUT RIGHT ACROSS STANLEY BOULEVARD FROM SHADOW CLIFFS, RIGHT NOW GOING THROUGH UNINCORPORATED ALAMEDA COUNTY THERE'S A PROPOSAL ON TWO OF THOSE PARCELS TO BUILD APPROXIMATELY 800 UNITS ACROSS THOSE TWO PARCELS.

SO JUST TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, CERTAINLY SUNOL IS BEAUTIFUL.

I THINK WE ALL LOVE THE WILDFLOWERS.

AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO THINK ABOUT ACQUISITION, ACQUISITION AND ACCESS AND SUNOL.

BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE SHADOW CLIFFS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE RAPID BUS STOP THAT CONNECTS EVERY 15 MINUTES TO THE DUBLIN PLEASANTON BART STATION.

UNINCORPORATED ALAMEDA COUNTY IS NOW LOOKING AT BUILDING ALMOST 800 UNITS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SHADOW CLIFFS.

SO THAT JUST SHOWS THAT THERE ARE.

AND I JUST USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT THERE CAN ALSO BE SOME DIFFERENT PRIORITIZATION IN REGARDS TO OUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS RUBRIC THAT THAT'S MY MAIN POINT HERE.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SANWONG.

WE'RE ON THE MARCH NEXT CAPITAL PRIORITIZATION STUDY SESSION WE ARE GOING TO BRING FORWARD BECAUSE AS WE'VE MENTIONED IN OUR PRESENTATION, WE DO SEE THOSE GAPS.

AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON SOME MORE GAPS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO WE WANT TO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING, TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS AND BRING THEM BACK TO THE BOARD AND FOR THAT CONVERSATION.

SO WE CAN FINE TUNE THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. NO OTHER COMMENTS.

YEAH. SO THE NEXT THING IS WE'RE GOING TO DO THE CAPITAL FUNDING SOURCES.

OH YEAH. DEFINITELY. WE SHOULD TAKE A BREAK BEFORE THAT.

THERE'S LUNCH IN THERE.

OH, PERFECT. OH, GOOD.

GOOD TIMING. GOOD JOB.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE A BREAK FOR LUNCH.

12:38 IS OUR [INAUDIBLE].

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HOLD ON A MINUTE.

ONE SECOND. SOUND IS ON.

GREAT. WELCOME BACK EVERYONE.

[CAPITAL FUNDING SOURCES]

FUNDING SOURCES DISCUSSION.

GREAT AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

KATIE DEGNAN, ASSISTANT FINANCE OFFICER.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW OUR CAPITAL FUNDING SOURCES.

SO AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR, WE HAVE FOUR MAIN CAPITAL FUNDING SOURCES.

THE PARK DISTRICT REVENUE THAT COMES FROM OUR PROPERTY TAXES WHICH GO INTO GENERAL FUND MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE RENOVATION REPLACEMENT FUND, MEASURE FF, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICTS AND ZONE OF BENEFITS.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR BOND FUNDS WHICH ARE MEASURE AA MEASURE WW AND THEN PROMISSORY NOTES WHICH ARE SIMILAR TO BOND FUNDS.

GRANTS WE HAVE FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL AND PRIVATE AND OTHER FUNDING FROM OUR REGIONAL PARK FOUNDATION, MITIGATION AGREEMENTS, DEVELOPER AND SETTLEMENT FUNDS.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT STATUS OF FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS THIS YEAR.

SO DUE TO OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS IN THE COMING YEAR, THE AMOUNT OF GENERAL FUND AVAILABLE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS IS MINIMAL.

WE'RE THINKING THAT THE ALLOCATION WILL CONTINUE AT ABOUT 5 MILLION, AND THEN WE HAVE A REMAINING 4.4 MILLION OF MEASURE AA UNAPPROPRIATED FUNDS FOR LAND ACQUISITION. HOWEVER, EARLIER THIS WEEK, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE APPROPRIATION OF 2.6 MILLION FOR POINT MOLATE.

SO THAT BALANCE HAS DECREASED BY THAT AMOUNT.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOME MEASURE A INTEREST AA INTEREST, WHICH WILL BE PROPOSING FOR ALLOCATION AS PART OF THE 2025 BUDGET.

NEXT WE'LL GO INTO THE MAJOR AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT WE DO HAVE LEFT ARE OUR MEASURE WW.

AND SO IN YOUR PACKET IS A DETAILED LIST IS ATTACHMENT C OF ALL THE REMAINING MEASURE WW FUNDING STATUS AS OF SEPTEMBER 2024.

SO IT INDICATES EACH THE LOCATIONS HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN ALLOCATED.

AS OF SEPTEMBER 2024.

AND THEN WHAT'S REMAINING IS UNAPPROPRIATED.

AS YOU RECALL, MEASURE WW FUNDING WAS ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED BASED ON THE METROPOLITAN AREAS POPULATION CENSUSES.

SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE PROVIDED A SUMMARY HERE ON THIS SLIDE OF THE DIFFERENT REMAINING UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCES BY THE METROPOLITAN AREA. AND THEN FOR AREAS LIKE THE BAY TRAIL, BAY WATER TRAIL, THOSE ARE CONSIDERED URBAN CREEKS.

THOSE ARE CONSIDERED MULTI METRO.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR CONTINGENCY FUNDS.

SO IN TOTAL WE HAVE ABOUT 185.9 MILLION REMAINING FOR ACQUISITION, 29 FOR DEVELOPMENT WHICH LEADS US A TOTAL OF 215 MILLION STILL AVAILABLE FOR APPROPRIATION.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND OVER TO OUR AGM OF FINANCE TO TALK ABOUT OUR MEASURE AA OR WW.

SORRY. THANK YOU.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT.

I'M DEB SPAULDING, ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER OF FINANCE AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

SO I WANTED TO JUST TALK TO YOU BRIEFLY ABOUT MEASURE WW.

SO AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, WE ORIGINALLY AUTHORIZED 500 MILLION BACK IN 2008.

THE VOTERS APPROVED 500 MILLION IN BONDS TO BE ISSUED.

AND SO FAR WE'VE ISSUED 300 MILLION OF THAT.

SO WE DID AN $80 MILLION TRANCHE IN ORIGINALLY IN 2009, THEN 2013, THEN 2017.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WE HAD TO SLOW DOWN IN 2022.

WE ONLY ISSUED 60 MILLION.

SO TO DATE WE'VE SPENT ABOUT 258 MILLION.

AND WE HAVE ABOUT 200 MILLION.

WELL, WE HAVE EXACTLY 200 MILLION IN WW BONDS REMAINING TO BE ISSUED.

SO WE ARE APPROACHING NOW CLOSING IN ON 20 YEARS SINCE THAT 2008 MEASURE, WW APPROVAL AND GOING BACK IN HISTORY EVEN FURTHER.

WE HAD MEASURE AA, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS IN 1988.

SO THAT WAS LIKE A THAT WAS 20 YEARS BETWEEN AA AND WW.

AND HERE WE ARE APPROACHING 20 YEARS FROM WW'S APPROVAL, AND WE ARE NOT VERY CLOSE TO SPENDING DOWN THOSE WW BONDS.

AND WE'RE REALLY SLOWING DOWN ON OUR SPENDING.

AND THEN MOVING ON TO THIS NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE I DON'T KNOW, LEGALESE, I GUESS I'LL SAY.

SO THE IRS HAS REQUIREMENTS ABOUT SPENDING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS BECAUSE THEY ARE TAX EXEMPT.

SO THE IRS SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO EXPECT WHEN YOU ISSUE YOUR BONDS, YOU HAVE TO EXPECT TO SPEND THEM WITHIN THREE YEARS OF ISSUANCE.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT EXPECTATION THERE ARE RISKS TO THE IRS SAYING, HEY, THOSE BONDS SHOULD NOT BE TAX EXEMPT.

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YOU COULD EVEN BE LIABLE TO PAY PENALTIES AND INTEREST.

AND SO THERE'S AN EXAMPLE HERE OF AN AGENCY WHERE THEY DID HAVE TO LOSE THEIR TAX EXEMPT DETERMINATION.

SO ALL THIS IS TO SAY SO WE ISSUED OUR LAST 60 MILLION IN 2022.

WE STILL HAVE 40 MILLION THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT.

AND IT'S SO IT'S NOW ALMOST WE'RE ALMOST TWO YEARS IN.

WE'VE REALLY AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE REALLY SLOWED DOWN ON THE SPENDING.

AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THE LOCAL GRANTS, THAT LOCAL GRANT PROGRAM THAT WAS EASIER TO GET THOSE FUNDS OUT THE DOOR.

THAT MONEY IS NOW ALMOST ENTIRELY BEEN APPROPRIATED AND USED UP.

THE ACQUISITIONS, SOMETIMES THOSE COME IN BIG CHUNKS, BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S LIKE LONG PERIODS OF TIME WHEN WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO ACQUISITIONS.

AND SOME OF THE ACQUISITIONS THAT WERE SET FORTH IN THE ORIGINAL MEASURE WW DOCUMENTS ARE, LESS FEASIBLE OR POSSIBLY EVEN NOT FEASIBLE ANYMORE.

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS IN THE 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET.

WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING FORWARD SOME PROJECTS FOR RECOMMENDING TO YOU WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FUNDS FROM EITHER ACQUISITION TO DEVELOPMENT AND POSSIBLY EVEN BETWEEN ALLOCATION AREAS.

SO NOT BETWEEN METROS BUT BETWEEN ALLOCATION AREAS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING THAT TO THE BOARD TO DISCUSS.

AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT FOR WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

THE BOARD DOES HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

SO THE ORIGINAL WW LEGISLATION DOES GIVE US THAT ABILITY TO DO SO.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.

BUT IT'S REALLY IT'S BECOMING MUCH MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONSIDER.

AND THAT'S I THINK ALL I WANTED TO SAY ON THAT SLIDE.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK TO KATIE FOR GRANT FUNDING.

ANY. OH YEAH.

SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOUR QUESTIONS.

OH, MICROPHONE.

OH. PARDON ME. SO ACCORDING TO THIS, WE'VE SPENT $258.6 MILLION SO FAR.

BUT 125 MILLION OF IT WAS TO LOCAL.

SO WE'VE ONLY SPENT 133 MILLION.

YEAH. YES. OKAY.

WOW. YEAH.

AND THERE ARE REASONS FOR THAT, RIGHT? LIKE, THERE'S, LIKE, THE WAY MEASURE.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SURE, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH. WE'RE TRYING. WE'RE TRYING.

YEAH. SO WE HAVE $200 MILLION IN PROJECTS AND $200 MILLION LEFT IN WW FUNDING.

WHAT IS IT? SO, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE ALL SMILING BECAUSE, HEY, GIVE US, YOU KNOW, HERE I HAVE A MAP.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL 2008.

YES. BROCHURE THAT WAS USED BY THE PARK DISTRICT TO PROMOTE WW.

SO ACCORDING TO THIS 2008 MAP AND PROJECT LISTS, I MEAN, WE ALL COULD SPEND THE $200 MILLION REALLY QUICKLY IF YOU NEEDED HELP.

SO IT'S JUST IMPORTANT AS WELL THAT WE USE THIS 2008 MAP AND TRACK IT SO THAT WHEN WE GO OUT ONCE AGAIN FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUNDING.

WE CAN DO WHAT WE DID WHEN WE WENT OUT IN 2008, WHICH IS WE WAIVED THE MAP AROUND FROM MEASURE AA AND SAID, HEY FOLKS, WE DID ALL THESE PROJECTS AS PROMISED, AND NOW IT'S 20 WHATEVER YEARS.

I THINK IT WAS 20 YEARS OUT.

WE NOW WANT TO DO THIS.

HERE'S THE MAP OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

AND THE INTENT IS WE'RE ON OUR 20TH YEAR.

BUT WHENEVER WE'RE PREPARED TO GO OUT FOR GO BONDS AGAIN, WHICH I SUSPECT WE WILL, THAT WE CAN LOOK AND SHOW PEOPLE THIS MAP AND SAY, WE'VE DONE WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO, AND SO ON ITS FACE OF IT, AGAIN, I'M BEING A LITTLE LIGHT THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE COULD SPEND THE $200 MILLION.

WHAT IS THE IMPEDIMENT THAT YOU ALL ARE FACING THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT NOT ONLY TO SPEND MONEY OR TO ISSUE MORE BONDS IN ORDER TO SPEND IT, BUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO SPEND WITHIN THREE YEARS OF WHEN WE'VE ISSUED BONDS, WHICH IS A LITTLE ALARMING.

THERE'S A WHOLE SLIDE THAT EMPHASIZES THAT RISK.

WHAT OUT THERE IS THE IMPEDIMENTS TO USING THESE THESE FUNDS, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET OVER THAT ISSUE SO QUICKLY.

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AND IF WE SEE A PROJECT THERE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BEEN APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S EXPECTED TO BE SPENT ON THAT PROJECT, WE'VE BEEN VERY RELUCTANT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT OVER HERE FOR THIS OTHER PROJECT THAT IS IS MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW AND NEEDS MONEY.

AND SO WE'VE SOMETIMES PUT PROJECTS MAYBE ON THE BACK BURNER OR WE'VE LOOKED FOR.

WE'VE USED GENERAL FUND MONEY.

SOMETIMES WE'VE REQUESTED WW CONTINGENCY TO BE USED.

BUT IT'S RARE WHERE WE SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACQUISITION FUNDS AND USE IT FOR DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WE REQUEST THAT OF THE BOARD OR WHERE WE GO BETWEEN TWO ALLOCATION AREAS, BECAUSE WE'VE TRIED TO BE SENSITIVE TO WHAT IS ON THAT LIST.

AND, SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY STILL NEED TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT LIST.

AND ANYTHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE IS FEASIBLE AND CAN BE DONE.

WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT.

BUT IF THERE'S A PROJECT THAT'S READY TO MOVE FORWARD NOW AND NEEDS ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK HARD AT THAT LIST AND SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE TO REALLOCATE.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WELL, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT SPENDING WW MONEY AS QUICKLY AS ANTICIPATED IN 2008 BECAUSE SOME OF THE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED HERE OR ACQUISITIONS IDENTIFIED HERE.

I'M TOUCHING THE 2008 MAP JUST AREN'T FEASIBLE ANYMORE.

THERE ARE SOME YES.

OR I, YOU KNOW, IS IT THAT WE JUST HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS GOING THAT IT'S WE'RE LIMITED BY THE AMOUNT OF PERMITTING THAT WE NEED? I'M TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT ARE THE CHIEF BARRIERS TO THIS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAP, I DON'T SEE BARRIERS TO SPENDING MONEY.

I SEE A LOT OF ACQUISITIONS OF LAND, AND I SEE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT HAVEN'T EVER BEEN DONE.

THAT COULD BE. SO I DON'T I'M WONDERING IF IT'S REALLY FEASIBILITY OF 2008.

PROJECTS AND LAND ACQUISITIONS VERSUS.

WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DEVELOP THESE PROJECTS FAST ENOUGH TO SPEND THE MONEY.

SO I WOULD SAY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE REAL EXPERTS CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS.

BUT I WOULD SAY FOR ME, IT KIND OF FALLS INTO THREE BUCKETS.

SO ONE IS ONE IS THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE DOLLARS, AS DEB MENTIONED.

SO, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE THE MAP WAS PASSED BY THE VOTERS.

BUT CERTAINLY IT IS.

WE HAVE LOOKED INTO THE KIND OF THE LEGAL DISCRETION THAT THE BOARD HAS, AND IT'S MUCH MORE THAN I THINK WAS MAYBE THOUGHT OF IN THE PAST, THAT YOU ALL CAN IN, THROUGH YOUR ACTIONS, ACTUALLY MOVE DOLLARS AROUND IF YOU WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THE VOTERS.

I THINK THERE WAS A HESITANCY IN THE PAST.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE RECORD HERE.

OF COURSE THERE WERE COMMITMENTS MADE ON THE RECORD ON THOSE PROJECTS.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU IGNORE THOSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO, SO THERE COULD BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THERE.

AND IT IS THAT MIX BETWEEN ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR YOUR LIST OF 200 PROJECTS HERE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE NEED FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND I KNOW IN THE PAST AND THIS PREDATES ME, YOU ALL HAVE COME TO THE BOARD TO MOVE MONEY FROM ACQUISITION IN THE PAST AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

AND DEB JUST FORESHADOWED THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS COMING.

SO THAT'S ONE IS I JUST THINK FLEXIBILITY OF THE DOLLARS WITHIN THE BUCKETS.

BUT TWO IS KIND OF WHAT REN WAS ALLUDING TO, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF REGULATORY ISSUES THAT POP UP AND PROJECTS JUST TAKE LONGER THAN THEY USED TO TAKE. AND SO WE'RE WORKING REALLY, REALLY HARD TO TRY TO STREAMLINE THAT AND WELCOME OTHER IDEAS THAT MIGHT BE OUT THERE.

AND SO THAT'S A HUGE, I THINK, IMPEDIMENT TO GETTING SOME OF THESE THINGS DONE.

AND THEN THE THIRD IS JUST THE REALITY OF STAFF CAPACITY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST AS MUCH AS AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, REN, WE GIVE YOU THREE MORE PROJECT MANAGERS AND TWO MORE CIVIL ENGINEERS. HOW MANY MORE PROJECTS COULD YOU GET DONE NEXT YEAR? RIGHT? AND SO CONTINUING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF THOSE ASKS IN THE BUDGET AND BUT IT'S NOT JUST THROWING MORE, MORE STAFF AT IT. RIGHT. IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT STAFF AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE THE, IN MY MIND, KIND OF THE THREE, THREE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENTS, I'M GOING TO SAY A FOURTH ONE.

THE FOURTH ONE IS AGAIN, JUST THE LACK OF PRIORITIZATION.

SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEEN RUNNING FROM PROJECT TO PROJECT AND THEN WE HAVE EMERGENCIES, RIGHT, THAT POP UP THAT TAKE THE SAME STAFF, IT'S ALL THE SAME STAFF OFF OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE LONGER TERM, YOU KNOW, MEASURE WW PROJECTS THAT HAVE TO GO AND DEAL WITH THE BRIDGE THAT WAS WASHED

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AND SO WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT WE'VE HAD SO THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS GET, YOU KNOW, THE LONGER TERM PROJECTS GET PUT ON THE BACK BURNER FOR YEARS AND YEARS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE EMERGENCIES.

SO I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE TO ME, THOSE ARE THE FOUR VERY, VERY, VERY LARGE BUCKETS.

SO IT'S NOT ONE THING.

YEAH I UNDERSTAND THEY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE JUST THEN.

AND ONE LAST QUESTION ON THIS TOPIC IS WHEN YOU'RE DESCRIBING FLEXIBILITY OF SPENDING AS OR MAYBE LACK OF FLEXIBILITY OF SPENDING AS AN IMPEDIMENT TO MOVING FORWARD ON WW PROJECTS OR WW FUNDING.

WHY IS THAT AN ISSUE? WHY IS IT A PROBLEM IF WE CAN'T SHIFT MONEY AROUND? IN OTHER WORDS, IF A BULK OF THIS MONEY IS IN ACQUISITIONS, WHY NOT SPEND IT ON ACQUISITIONS? JUST THE LOGICAL.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF ACQUISITIONS.

I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES AROUND CAPITAL PROJECTS PROBABLY HAVE SOME OF THE SAME SIMILAR, DIFFERENT, A LITTLE DIFFERENT FLAVOR ON LAND ACQUISITIONS THAT SOME OF THESE WHERE WE THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE WITHIN THE 20 YEAR PERIOD JUST AREN'T HAPPENING YET.

SO SO IT'S AND THAT IS A THAT'S A TOUGH ONE.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF ACQUISITIONS ON YOUR RADARS AND ON OUR WORK PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WW MONEY FOR THEM.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE STILL MIGHT BE WAITING ON SOMETHING BIG TO HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, SOMEONE PASSES AWAY OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

AS WE KNOW IN LAND ACQUISITION THAT IS UNPREDICTABLE.

SO DO YOU HOLD IT'S A BIG POLICY QUESTION.

DO YOU HOLD ON TO THOSE DOLLARS IN THE EVENT OF KNOWING IT'S STILL A PRIORITY FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION, OR DO YOU USE IT NOW FOR THE PROJECTS YOU HAVE HERE TO TRY TO GET THESE DONE WITH THE IDEA.

WE KNOW AND YOU JUST SAID IT.

WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO GO BACK OUT TO THE VOTERS TO RENEW THIS, TO GET ADDITIONAL CAPITAL DOLLARS.

AND SO AT THAT POINT, DO YOU THEN SAY, OKAY, NOW WE GOT TO GET THE MONEY BACK FOR THAT ACQUISITION THAT WE KIND OF PUT ON THE ON THE BACK BURNER? THOSE ARE BIG POLICY QUESTIONS, AND I IMAGINE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU WOULD HAVE AN ARGUMENT.

I CAN YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T.

I'VE WORKED IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG TIME GIVING UP MONEY FOR A PROJECT IN YOUR WARD THAT YOU THAT IS A PRIORITY THAT MAY HAPPEN SOME DAY IS REALLY HARD. REALLY HARD.

SO THERE'S NO NO EASY ANSWER TO THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHERE OUR HEADS ARE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS FINALLY HAVING THIS LIST OF REAL, TANGIBLE PROJECTS AND NEEDING TO COMPLETE SOME OF THEM.

AND WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

AND KATY'S GOING TO TALK NEXT.

THE OTHER KATIE ABOUT HOW GREAT WE'VE DONE WITH HUSTLING TO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, BUT THAT ALSO IS UNPREDICTABLE.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE JUST KEEP IN THE BACKGROUND OF OUR OWN MINDS THAT THERE IS WW FUNDING FOR OUTSIDE OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS, FOR LAND ACQUISITIONS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY ABLE TO BE PURSUED RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A TO ADD TO THE COMPLICATION IN WARD SIX AND IN WARD SEVEN, WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE PARTNER IN THE HABITAT CONSERVANCY THAT IS SUCCESSFULLY RAISING MONEY AND WANTS TO PARTNER WITH US IN A LOT OF THESE ACQUISITIONS.

AND IN FACT, BETWEEN WARD SIX AND SEVEN, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED ANOTHER 15,000 ACRES OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS THAT ARE TARGETED UNDER THE ORIGINAL HABITAT CONSERVANCY PLAN.

SO TO US, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT WW FUNDING THERE IS PART OF A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THAT ADDS TO THE COMPLICATION OF THE ISSUE, I THINK.

BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ANSWER MAKES IT SPREADING IT OUT INTO THOSE DIFFERENT BUCKETS.

WHY WE CAN'T DO THIS AS QUICK AS ALL OF US THINK WE COULD IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH. SO TECHNICALLY WE HAVE TO SPEND WW DOWN BY 2030.

WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND IT DOWN BY 2030.

IS THAT WHAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE AIMING FOR? YES. THERE'S.

YEAH, THE IRS IS ONCE YOU'VE ISSUED THE BONDS, IS WHEN YOU REALLY NEED TO MOVE IT OUT THE DOOR QUICKLY.

OKAY. BUT IT'S YEAH, THE LIST JUST GETS SO OUTDATED 30 YEARS OUT.

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YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER TECHNICAL TERMS THAT DEB CAN USE.

AND SHE'S BEEN VERY CAREFUL ON THE RECORD HERE, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY A VERY BAD LOOK IN THE MARKET TO WHEN THEY WILL GO BACK.

WHEN YOU GO OUT FOR ANOTHER MEASURE, THEY WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT HOW QUICKLY YOU SPENT IT AND HOW MUCH YOU, YOU KNOW, SAT ON IT.

YEAH. WELL, GOING BACK TO THE EAST BAY CONSERVATION, THE EAST COUNTY CONSERVATION, IN A WAY THAT WAS A BOON AND A CURSE AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING SO MUCH LAND FOR A LOT CHEAPER THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

SO YEAH.

SO BUT I ALSO JUST WANT TO MAKE COMMENT.

I JUST I APPRECIATE THE DECISION BY OUR PREVIOUS BOARD MEMBERS WHO BUILT IN THIS FLEXIBILITY THAT WE HAVE THAT NOW BECAUSE THEY LEARNED FROM MEASURE AA, WHICH WE'RE STILL TRYING TO SPIN DOWN THAT MONEY.

AND SO NOW AT LEAST WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PAST BOARD MEMBERS WERE APPRECIATED FOR THAT DECISION, TOO.

SO THANK YOU.

YES. SO LOOKING AT THIS, LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING THINKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTS FROM COLIN IN TERMS OF THAT BALANCE AND THAT PRIORITIZATION.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE WW FUNDING STATUS AND I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER.

SO SOME OF WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE, BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE HERE.

YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, SUNOL AND OHLONE, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED FOR ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT.

SO OHLONE, 7.2 MILLION OF WHICH IS UNAPPROPRIATED IS AT 6.9 MILLION.

AND SUNOL, WE HAVEN'T EVEN MADE ANY ACQUISITIONS OF THE 3.6 MILLION THAT'S ALLOCATED THERE.

AND CERTAINLY THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR MOST, YOU KNOW, TREASURED WILD LAND AREAS IN TERMS OF HABITAT.

BUT I THINK ALSO PART OF WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE PARK DISTRICT OVER, WHEN DID I JOIN THE PAC 2015.

SO ALMOST THE LAST TEN YEARS.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN MORE ABOUT LIKE ACCESS TO THE OUTDOORS.

AND I AND I ALSO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M USING SHADOW CLIFFS AS MY EXAMPLE TODAY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SHADOW CLIFFS ISN'T EVEN ON MEASURE WW YET SHADOW CLIFFS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT LOCATION IN TERMS OF RECREATION ACCESS AND GETTING PEOPLE ACCESS TO NATURAL TRAILS AND TO A LAKE FOR, YOU KNOW, SWIMMING AND OTHER LAKE ACTIVITIES AND ALSO THEN THINKING ABOUT POPULATION DENSITY, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE PEOPLE LIVE CLOSER TO SHADOW CLIFFS THAN TO SUNOL AND OHLONE, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S ONLY 922 RESIDENTS IN SUNOL.

NOT THAT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK IT'S THAT BALANCE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE FOCUS ON REALLY IMPORTANT WILD HABITAT SUCH AS SUNOL AND OHLONE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THIS RECREATION ACCESS AT A PARK LIKE SHADOW CLIFFS.

AND I THINK TO THE EARLIER POINT ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WE WAIT FOR ONE OF THESE LIFE EVENTS, MAYBE IN REGARDS TO SUNOL AND OHLONE, THERE HASN'T REALLY BEEN ONE OF THESE LIFE EVENTS WHERE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AND ALSO THESE TWO PARKS ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

AND IF YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE MAP, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF PARCELS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO SUNOL AND OHLONE THAT ALSO COME UP AND ARE AVAILABLE TO EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT.

SO I THINK THAT THAT ALSO PROVIDES SOME SORT OF DIFFICULTY IN REGARDS TO BEING ABLE TO USE THE MEASURE WW FUNDS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR TWO PARKS.

I WANT TO SECOND DEE'S COMMENT.

FIRST OF ALL, ON THANK HEAVENS THAT WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY BUILT IN IN TERMS OF MOVING FROM ACQUISITION TO DEVELOPMENT, IF THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO.

I MEAN, GRANTED, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT HAVE TO WEIGH WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD SPEND THE MONEY ON AND HOW RELEVANT THAT IS, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UPHOLDING THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE VOTERS ARE EXPECTING.

BUT I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW.

SO WHAT HOW MUCH FLEXIBILITY IS THERE IN TERMS OF MOVING THE MONEY FROM ACQUISITION TO DEVELOPMENT? WE HAVE AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS WE FEEL IS NEEDED.

THAT'S APPROPRIATE. YEAH. THERE'S NO SO THERE'S, WITH AA, YOU WERE LOCKED IN BETWEEN ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT, AND THE ONLY LOCK ON THE FUNDS IS NOW BETWEEN THE SOUTH DIABLO AND WEST METRO.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOCKED IN IS YOU CAN'T MOVE BETWEEN METROS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION, A QUICK ONE.

HOPEFULLY. THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS, 19 MILLION PLUS ON ON ACQUISITION.

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AND I'M HESITATING BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF THE.

NO, THAT'S THE INTEREST PROCEEDS THAT ARE WHERE WE'RE SPENDING THOSE ON DIABLO.

YES. SO THOSE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY METRO.

THANK YOU. SO TO MY WAY OF THINKING, THAT'S FOR UNEXPECTED WHATEVER'S.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPENING ARGUMENT FOR LET'S GO FOR IT AND BUY STUFF.

BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS CONTINGENCY HERE FOR THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT COME UP AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

I WOULD SPEAK FOR THE I DON'T KNOW WHO I'M SPEAKING FOR, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, WE GET PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR OUR STUFF AT 66.7 OR MORE BECAUSE THEY TRUST US, AND WE MAY HAVE BUILT IN SOME FINE PRINT CONTINGENCY TO SUGGEST WE CAN SPIN IT ANY WAY WE WANT, BUT WE SURE AS HECK SOLD IT AS HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUY.

WE DID MAPS.

WE SENT OUT THINGS CALLED, PROMISES MADE, PROMISES KEPT.

AND I'M TELLING YOU, I THINK THIS MAY BE AN EASY BAND-AID RIGHT NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE I THINK WE'RE BREAKING PROMISES IF WE START SAYING, OH, CONTINGENCY, GEE, IT'S NOT SPLIT. SPLIT THREE WAYS OR THREE [INAUDIBLE], OH, WE'LL SPEND IT ON SOMETHING WE LIKE.

WELL, THAT MEANS TWO METRO SECTORS GOT STIFFED, OR FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, AND THE SAME THING MOVING MONEY AROUND.

WE HAD A REAL, IN MY OPINION, SET TEMPLATE OF, YOU KNOW, THERE AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT VOTED BASED ON THAT.

THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD EVERY MAYOR, EVERY CITY COUNCIL LOCKED IN.

AND THE FACT THAT WE GAVE THEM ALL 125 MILLION DIDN'T HURT EITHER.

BUT THEY GOT IT.

AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THE PROMISES WERE MADE.

AND NOW, YEAH, SURE, THERE'S A LOOPHOLE AND IT MAY BE A SHORT TERM FIX, BUT I BOY, I'D SURE LOOK AT IT A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY THAN THAT.

I DON'T THINK WE I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT TREPIDATIOUSLY.

WE SHOULD ALL HAVE THAT MAP HANDY.

YEAH. JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON DENNIS' WE SHOULD HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF WHAT OUR ORIGINAL PROMISES WERE AND THEN HAVE THAT HAVE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT HAVE A RUNNING ACCOUNT OF THAT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE ON OUR WEBSITE AND THEN AND THEN WHEN WE RUN UP AGAINST A DEADLINE OF WHERE THE IRS IS GOING TO POSSIBLY TAKE AWAY OUR STATUS, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN USE THAT AS JUSTIFICATION FOR PUTTING THE MONEY INTO PROJECTS TO FINISH IN THE WW LIST.

SO. THANK YOU.

AND I'LL JUST ADD ONE OTHER ADDITIONAL COMPLICATION HERE, WHICH IS NOT COMPLICATION, BUT JUST DATA POINT TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT TOO AS WE GO INTO THE DISTRICT PLAN.

BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE ALL CONVERSATIONS, RIGHT, THAT WE SHOULD BE HAVING WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THESE COULD HAVE BEEN THE PRIORITIES AGAIN, AND I TOTALLY RESPECT IT 20 PLUS YEARS AGO. BUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CAN ALSO CHANGE IN THE WORLD.

I MEAN, GOODNESS, LOOK AT FIRE DANGER, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THAT CERTAINLY WASN'T ON OUR RADAR IN THE SAME WAY 20 YEARS AGO.

BUT I DO, YOU KNOW, AS THE BOARD IS WELL AWARE, WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE IN NEED OF GOING OUT TO THE VOTERS FOR OPERATIONS.

I THINK THAT'S NOT A SECRET.

WE HAVE BEEN ON THE RECORD.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GONE THIS YEAR IF WE COULD HAVE, BUT WISELY SO WE'RE NOT.

AND SO THAT IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE DO NEED TO THINK ABOUT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE DOLLARS.

AND I'VE HAD CONSTITUENTS ASK ME THAT QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU HAVE THESE POTS OF MONEY SITTING HERE.

OF COURSE WE CAN EXPLAIN AWAY.

NO, THESE ARE CAPITAL DOLLARS THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM OPERATIONS.

BUT IT IS ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST NEEDS TO BE ON ALL OF OUR RADARS AS WE MESSAGE OUT, GOING BACK OUT TO THE VOTERS, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN TWO YEARS, LET'S SAY, WHICH IS, I THINK LISA GOORJIAN'S HOPE OUT THERE AS SHE IS DOING HER RESOURCE ALLOCATION STUDY ON WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO RUN THESE PARKS AND TO GET, AS KEN SAID, TO OPEN UP SOME OF THE LAND BANK AND GET SOME OF THESE, THESE STAGING AREAS OPEN AND GET SOME SOME NEW TRAILS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE ALL WANT TO DO.

SO JUST WANT TO PUT ANOTHER ANOTHER THING OUT THERE.

I'LL JUST SAY ONE THING THAT'S POPPING INTO MY MIND BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON OUR 2025 BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, AND REN HAS GIVEN US HIS LIST OF, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THIS IS THE MONEY THAT'S NEEDED.

AND WE'RE COMING UP SHORT.

AND THAT'S A HARD THING FOR US TO LIKE.

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AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING ANYTHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MOVING FUNDS WHERE WHERE THERE'S A PROJECT THAT'S VIABLE, BUT WHERE THERE IS A LIMITATION ON HOW THE FUNDS CAN BE USED, OR MAYBE THE PROJECT HAS RUN INTO A ROADBLOCK AND THOSE FUNDS ARE NEEDED IN ANOTHER AREA.

THAT'S THE KIND OF RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'LL MAKE.

SO IT'S I WE ARE WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE ORIGINAL MAP AND THE VOTERS APPROVAL.

REN BATES, CAPITAL OR CHIEF OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.

JUST TO ADD TO THAT.

WHEN WE LOOK SO WE LOOK TO THE WW FUNDING WHEN WE LOOK FOR FUNDING.

TO DEB'S POINT, WHEN WE PUT IN OUR BUDGET REQUEST, WE LOOK TO SEE WHAT WW FUNDING IS THERE.

TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN.

DIRECTOR COFFEY IS THAT, YEAH, THERE'S $200 MILLION OF POTS OF MONEY THERE.

BUT AND THEY IF YOU DON'T, THAT NUMBER IS EQUIVALENT.

BUT AS YOU SEE THAT A LOT OF THAT MONEY IS IN ACQUISITION.

AND SO THE QUESTION IS BEING RAISED IS WHAT'S THE BOARD'S APPETITE TO MOVE THAT FROM ACQUISITION TO DEVELOPMENT TO DELIVER ON THAT? I THINK PART OF THE MAP THAT WE'VE SHOWN IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO DATE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF THE FUNDS WE HAVE ON THE EXISTING PROJECTS WE HAVE.

SO TO THAT, IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT FUNDS ARE A LITTLE BIT WE JUST HAVE USED UTILIZED MOST ALL OF THOSE FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTIVE ON OUR LIST.

IF WE WANT TO TAKE ON PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT ON THE LIST TO DELIVER THAT AND UTILIZE THAT MONEY, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I THINK WHERE WE ARE IS THE FLEXIBILITY OF UTILIZING IT IN METRO'S.

I GUESS THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE $200 MILLION AS AN OUTFALL FOR OUR CURRENT PROJECTS.

BUT NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE ON THE WW LIST.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HOW COME WE CAN'T SPEND THAT MONEY IS JUST THAT ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS ON THE WW LIST AREN'T NECESSARILY WHAT OUR ACTIVE LISTS ARE, AND WHAT THAT FUNDING GAP IS.

SO TO THAT END, ADDITIONALLY, WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE WW IS THAT A LOT OF THAT MONEY FOR DEVELOPMENT WASN'T FULL PROJECT COSTS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WAS SEED MONEY.

AND SO WE'VE HAD TO LEVERAGE THAT TO DELIVER THOSE PROJECTS.

AND I THINK THAT IS A GOOD VALUE TO TELL OUR CONSTITUENTS IS THAT WE'VE TAKEN THIS SEED MONEY AND WE'VE DONE IT AND WE'VE INCREASED IT THIS FOLD.

AND SO I THINK WE'RE DOING GREAT IN TERMS OF THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT IS A THING THAT WE CAN TELL OUR CONSTITUENTS.

THAT IS WE'VE LEVERAGED THAT MONEY.

WE MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN 1 OR 2 THINGS DONE, BUT WE'VE TAKEN THE MONEY THAT WE HAD.

WE LEVERAGED IT, WE GOT THIS DONE.

AND THEN IN LOOKING AT IT AGAIN, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE INFEASIBLE AS AS LAID OUT 20 YEARS AGO.

SO AS AN AGENCY, WE SAID, OKAY, HOW CAN WE BEST SPEND THIS MONEY? BECAUSE IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY.

AND THEN THAT'S TO YOUR POINT.

DIRECTOR WAESPI IS THAT WE THEN HAVE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION ABOUT HOW WE'VE REALLOCATED THAT FUNDS SO THAT WE CAN DELIVER THINGS FOR THE CONSTITUENTS.

AND THEN THAT WAY, WE'VE SPENT THAT MONEY DOWN AND CAN MOVE FORWARD FOR ANOTHER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE.

THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HEARD HERE, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY. MOVING ON TO GRANT FUNDING.

SO OUR GRANTS DEPARTMENT, LED BY KATY HORNBECK, IS CURRENTLY MONITORING AND MANAGING APPROXIMATELY 170 GRANTS TOTALING 193.5 MILLION. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A STRONG FOCUS ON RAISING AS MUCH GRANTS AS WE CAN.

AND SO THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDING AND GRANTS.

SO WE WANTED TO JUST QUICKLY REVIEW THAT.

SO YOU'RE AWARE OF KIND OF THE FUNDING SOURCES WE HAVE OUT THERE AND THE DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS AND ISSUES.

SO BASED ON THE 193.5 MILLION THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, ABOUT 75% OF THAT COMES FROM THE STATE.

THE AGENCIES LISTED STATE COASTAL CONSERVANCY, WILDLIFE CONSERVATION BOARD, CAL FIRE AND STATE PARKS.

15% IS FROM FEDERAL FUNDING FROM THE EPA, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND FEMA.

AND THEN OUR 5% COMES FROM ABOUT LOCAL REGIONAL GRANTS FROM METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, CONTRA COSTA TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY AND ALAMEDA COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.

AND THEN WE HAVE PRIVATE 5% FROM NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION.

YES. SO WHERE WOULD THE EASTERN CONTRA COSTA HABITAT CONSERVANCY FALL ON THIS OR THAT, SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THIS FUNDING AND GRANTORS SECTION? THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE WAY THAT WE TRACK THAT? HOW WOULD WE DEFINE THAT? AND THEN I GUESS MORE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO THE ALTAMONT LANDFILL OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE, AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE TRACK THAT.

YEAH, THOSE ARE THE SEPARATE THE SEPARATE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT THE FUNDS COME DIRECTLY INTO THE BUDGET.

SORRY. MY VOICE. SO THE HCP FUNDS ARE NOT EXACTLY GRANT

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REGIONAL IF I HAD TO CATEGORIZE THEM.

BUT I GUESS WHEN WE'RE THINKING OF GRANTS, WE'RE MORE LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMPETITIVE APPLICATION PROCESS, WHEREAS THE HCP FUNDS WE GET ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND THEN THE ALTAMONT LANDFILL.

I DON'T KNOW. DOES ANYONE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? OF HOW WE. YEAH, THEY'RE ANOTHER LOCAL REGIONAL SOURCE.

I DON'T THINK OF THEM QUITE AS A GRANT EITHER.

RIGHT. BUT THIS LIST IS LOCAL, REGIONAL SOURCES AND GRANTS.

RIGHT. OR IS THIS JUST GRANTS.

I'M SORRY. YEAH. SOURCE.

SO, DO WE HAVE A SECTION ON HERE ON LOCAL SOURCES FROM TODAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE I DIDN'T I DID NOT INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING THAT FORWARD IN OUR NEXT SESSION.

YEAH, I THINK AT SOME POINT THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE I AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS IN GENERAL.

SO IT'S HELPFUL TO ALSO KNOW THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT SEPARATE FROM GRANTS TOO.

AND THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT I SEE THE TWO THE EASTERN CONTRA COSTA HABITAT FUND AND THE ALTAMONT LANDFILL OPEN SPACE FUND IS SIMILAR BUT ALSO DIFFERENT, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SIMILAR PORTIONS OF THE EASTERN PORTIONS OF OUR PARK DISTRICT.

AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY IN BOTH.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN IN TERMS OF SOME OF OUR PARKS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAP INTO THE ALTAMONT LANDFILL OPEN SPACE FUNDING.

BUT ACTUALLY THAT THAT GROUP AND THIS IS IN THE NEWS A LOT LOCALLY WHERE I LIVE, THEY'RE RIGHT NOW SITTING ON TOP OF $26 MILLION FOR OPEN SPACE AND NOT AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE SAME CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING ABOUT MEASURE WW.

IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE CONVERSATION THEY'RE HAVING IN REGARDS TO THAT $26 MILLION.

VERY HARD FOR THEM TO SPEND.

WHAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S BEEN VERY HARD FOR THEM TO SPEND.

AND WE'VE LOOKED AT IT ACTIVELY.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE JUST KIND OF SAYING OVER HERE.

AND IT'S BEEN LIKE, JUST DOESN'T QUITE FIT.

YEAH. AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO INTO THIS, BUT I MEAN, CERTAINLY LOOKING AT THE MEASURE WW MAP AND I USUALLY MENTION THIS EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT MEASURE WW DOES NOT INCLUDE MURRAY TOWNSHIP.

SO WITH THAT ALTAMONT LANDFILL SO THAT 26 MILLION, 80% OF IT IS DEDICATED TO MURRAY TOWNSHIP, ROUGHLY IN TERMS OF THE WAY THE MAP IS, THERE MIGHT BE SLIGHT DIFFERENCES IN THOSE LINES, BUT LET'S SAY 80% OF THAT 26 MILLION IS MURRAY TOWNSHIP, 20% IS DUBLIN, PLEASANTON, AND THEN A PORTION OF HAYWARD AS WELL.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT GRANTS.

SO THE DIFFERENT SOURCES, FEDERAL.

SO JUST KIND OF GIVING SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS WE'VE PREVIOUSLY USED IT FOR THE TYPES OF PROJECTS, AS HAS MAINLY BEEN FUELS, MITIGATION PROJECTS, STORM DAMAGE, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, TRAILS AND RESTORATION IS WHERE WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN IN GETTING FEDERAL GRANTS IN THE PAST.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO GO AFTER THESE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

THE RESTRICTIONS AND ISSUES IS THERE'S A LONGER APPROVAL PROCESS.

THERE'S MORE FEDERAL PERMITTING REGULATIONS SUCH AS NEPA REQUIREMENTS, AND MATCHING FUNDS CANNOT BE FEDERAL RELATED.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN MATCHING FUNDS TO BACK UP THOSE GRANTS.

OUR STATE AND LOCAL, REGIONAL AGAIN, FUELS MITIGATION PROJECTS.

WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SECURING FUNDING FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND RESTORATION PROJECTS.

THESE ARE USUALLY WHEN WE'RE GOING AFTER THESE OPPORTUNITIES, WE HAVE TO BE ABOUT 65% DESIGN.

SO HAVE AN ACTIVE PLAN OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER AND THEN SHOULD HAVE CEQA ALREADY COMPLETED.

THESE ARE COMPETITIVE.

WE'RE COMPETING WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND MUNICIPALITIES FOR THESE FUNDINGS, AND USUALLY THEY HAVE A THREE YEAR COMPLETION WINDOW.

AND THEN WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH SOME OF THE DEFICITS THE STATE HAS HAD FOR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL TO SEE THE LEVELS OF FUNDING THAT WE'VE HAD SEEN IN THE PAST.

AND THEN PRIVATE FUNDING TYPES OF PROJECTS, AGAIN, SAME FUELS AND RESTORATION.

AND THEN IT'S JUST ELIGIBILITY, SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNT.

AND THEN THERE'S MORE REPORTING AND TRACKING REQUIRED.

SO THIS IS JUST LIKE A HIGHLIGHT OF KIND OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANTS.

BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY PURSUE THESE.

AND WE'VE DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR PRIORITY PROJECT LIST AND THE WORK PLAN, LOOKING AT THOSE PROJECTS THAT DO HAVE REQUIRE SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING, AND WE CONTINUE TO GO AFTER GRANTS FOR THOSE PROJECTS.

SO MOVING ON.

UNLESS ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FUNDING SOURCES, JUST A COMMENT.

[PREVIEW OF 2025 - 2029 FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN]

AND I'M JUST THINKING OF THE ARTEMESIA TRAIL AND THE CULVERT THERE IN LEONA.

[02:10:04]

IT'S BEEN, WHAT, ALMOST TWO YEARS? SO YEAH, WE SHOULD I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE JUDICIOUS AS TO WHICH PROJECTS WE PUT FORWARD TO FEMA, BECAUSE I THINK ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO TRAILS, THERE'S A LOT OF THAT'S AN ACCESS ISSUE.

AND UNLESS IT'S A REALLY MAJOR, THEN I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING THOSE YOU KNOW, FUNDING THOSE OURSELVES.

BUT JUST BE MORE JUDICIOUS IN THAT, IN THAT RESPECT.

YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE JUST ACTUALLY I THINK THIS WEEK I LOSE TRACK OF MAYBE IT WAS YESTERDAY I LOSE TRACK OF TIME.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN LAST MONTH.

WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT AND YOU'LL SEE THIS AS PART OF YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET.

PROBABLY WE DID A LITTLE EXPERIMENT LAST YEAR OF CREATING KIND OF AN EMERGENCY FUND WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND FOR SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, REPAIRS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR FEMA. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PROPOSE TO INCREASE THAT FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO SOMETHING NOT TO DO THEM ALL, BUT AT LEAST THE HIGH PRIORITY ONES.

AND THERE'S ALSO A MECHANISM TO DO THEM AND THEN GET THE MONEY LATER.

RIGHT. IS THAT YES.

WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THESE GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS IN THAT, SO I'LL LET THEM.

YEAH, I MEAN, WE HAVE DONE SOME OF THE WORK FROM THE STORMS FROM 2023 AS PART OF OUR TRAILS CREEK PROGRAM.

AND SO NOW IT'S JUST SEEING IF THEY'LL ACCEPT THE WORK AND THAT WE BECAUSE WE'VE TOLD THEM WE ALREADY COMPLETED THE WORK AND WE'VE SUBMITTED ALL OF OUR COSTS AND WE'RE SEEING IF THEY WILL ACCEPT IT. BUT THEIR POLICY IS FOR US NOT TO DO THE WORK UNTIL THE PROJECT WORKSHEET HAS BEEN OBLIGATED, THE SCOPE HAS BEEN APPROVED, IT'S GONE THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW AND THAT THE MONEY'S THERE.

SO YEAH.

THANKS. AND I WILL SAY IT'S A BIG CREDIT TO THIS TEAM PUSHING VERY HARD.

AND I'M ACTUALLY THE BOARD KNOWS THIS TOO.

AND FROM WHAT THE WORK WE DID IN DC, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THINGS BACK TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, NOT TO WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE.

AND I THINK WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE SOME PRETTY GOOD PROGRESS ON THE GROUND WITH THEIR LOCAL TEAM HERE AND DOING SITE VISITS AND SHOWING THEM HOW THIS ACTUALLY THESE DOING THE RIGHT REPAIR IS GOING TO END UP SAVING MONEY.

SO A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.

BUT I THINK IN THIS LAST YEAR YOU GUYS HAVE MADE A LOT OF HEADWAY WITH FEMA.

YEAH, BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET THE 2023 STORMS APPROVED.

WE STILL DON'T HAVE APPROVAL EVEN OF OUR DEBRIS REMOVAL.

SO IT'S A CONSTANT PROCESS.

AND WE'RE ACTIVELY WE MEET WITH THEM EVERY WEEK.

SO SO THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S OUR PRIORITIES.

I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW KATY WORKED ON HURRICANE KATRINA WITH FEMA, SO SHE'S GOT A LOT OF BATTLE SCARS.

YES. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S AND THERE SEEMS TO BE MOVING A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN THAT, THOUGH.

THANK GOODNESS. [LAUGHTER] OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO THE PREVIEW OF THE 2025, 2029 FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

SO IN THE PAST, OUR PROJECT BUDGET BOOK HAS GIVEN FIVE YEAR FUNDING, ACTUALLY EXPENDITURE PROJECTIONS WHEN WE HAD ESTIMATED COSTS. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I'VE WORKED WITH DECO AND MAST AND SOME OF THE OTHER DIVISIONS TO REALLY GET A PROJECTION OF WHAT OUR FUTURE FUNDING COSTS ARE GOING TO BE FOR OUR PROJECTS.

AND SO THIS YEAR, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF A PREVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN THE PROJECT'S BUDGET BOOK.

IT WILL LIST THE PROJECTS AND THEN WHAT PHASE THEY'RE IN, PRIOR YEAR FUNDING, AND THEN WHAT, 2025 FUNDING WE'RE PROPOSING, AND THEN FUTURE COSTS. SO THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANY REQUEST FOR FUNDING THIS YEAR, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW WHEN THE FUNDING IS GOING TO COME OUT IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN IT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO START PLANNING FOR THESE BIG OUTLAYS OF PROJECTS THAT WILL BE READY TO GO INTO CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE A NUMBER THAT WILL BE READY IN 2026.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SLIDE FROM LIKE, THURGOOD MARSHALL AND, AND DEER VALLEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO START PLANNING FOR THAT, THAT FUNDING TO COME IN. AND THESE ARE ALSO PROJECTS THAT ARE HIGH ON OUR PRIORITY FOR GRANTS TO SEARCH FOR ACTIVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING.

SO THIS WILL HOPEFULLY GIVE US A SNAPSHOT SO WE CAN START PLANNING FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE FUNDING IN THE FUTURE AND GET THESE RESOURCES READY, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION QUICKLY WHEN THEY'RE READY TO GO.

AGAIN? EXCUSE MY BACK.

I APOLOGIZE, BUT I NEED TO READ FROM THE PROPOSAL.

THE ITEM SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM.

DEER VALLEY PROJECT 160300.

AND THIS IS A FUNDING BUDGET FOR THAT PROJECT, BY WHICH WE'RE ACTUALLY REFERRING TO THE CONVERSION OF THE RODDY GOLF COURSE TO THE FIRST PHASE OF THE OR THE FIRST PHASE OPENING OF THE FUTURE DEER VALLEY REGIONAL

[02:15:03]

I WANT TO SAY KENNA WAS A LITTLE MORE THAN A WEEK AGO, MAYBE TWO WEEKS.

TWO WEEKS AGO WITH SENATOR GLAZER, WHO HAS SUPPORTED THE PROJECT AND IN PARTICULAR SUPPORTED IT WITH ADVOCACY THAT RESULTED IN SIGNIFICANT FUNDING TOWARD THE PROJECT AND THE GOLF COURSE DEVELOPMENT. IT IT WAS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE SENATOR THAT PERHAPS OUR PLANNERS COULD LOOK AT A PHASING OF THE OPENING OF THE GOLF COURSE AFTER IT IS I YOU KNOW, WE'LL CONTINUE TO REFER TO IT AS A GOLF COURSE TO DISTINGUISH IT FROM THE REST OF THE 3000 ACRES OUT THERE AT DEER VALLEY.

BUT FOR THAT FIRST PHASE OF THE DEER VALLEY DEVELOPMENT, PERHAPS WE COULD LOOK AT PHASING THAT OPENING THAT PROJECT IN ORDER TO USE THE FUNDING ALREADY SECURED AND IS LIKELY TO BE SECURED SOON TO DEVELOP A PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT COULD BE OPENED SOONER THAN LATER FOR PUBLIC ACCESS.

AND JUST BY SUMMARY, THIS IS TO BE RESPONSIVE TO SENATOR GLAZER'S DESIRE THAT WE PRIORITIZE PUBLIC ACCESS FOR THAT PROJECT BY WHICH HE'S HELPED US ACQUIRE SUBSTANTIAL FUNDS.

SO IN THAT SPIRIT, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE DONE SUCCESSFULLY IN THE PAST.

THE GOLF COURSE PROJECT IS UNTO ITSELF A PHASE, A FIRST PHASE OF A LARGER REGIONAL PARK OPENING.

AND IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT OUR PLANNERS CAN INCORPORATE SUCH A PLAN B INTO THE PROJECT DESIGN, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT AND IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO US TO AT LEAST EXPLORE THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN IN FACT CREATE AN EARLY STAGE PHASE OF THAT PROJECT FOR OPENING.

BE IT A TRAIL OR A SERIES OF TRAILS.

WE ALREADY HAVE THE STAGING AREA ESSENTIALLY, SO THAT THAT PARK DOES HAVE THAT ADVANTAGE IN TERMS OF GETTING IT OPEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR COFFEY.

YEAH. FROM THAT MEETING, WE DEFINITELY TOOK IT TO HEART WHAT SENATOR GLAZER WAS ASKING FOR.

AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT, ON HOW WE CAN STAGE OUT SO WE CAN START GETTING SOME ACCESS OPEN, GETTING SOME PROJECT WORK DONE AS WE GO FORWARD.

SO WE DEFINITELY ARE GOING TO BE DOING THAT.

THANK YOU. THANKS.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS SLIDE TOO.

SO THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY TRAIL EXTEND BAY TRAIL AT POINT MOLATE.

IS THIS THE SAME LITTLE STRETCH THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND THAT WE RECENTLY HAD TO REJECT THE BIDS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

SO PUT THE FUNDING IN 2026 FOR RIGHT NOW.

JUST THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT EXAMPLE.

WE'RE ACTIVELY PURSUING GRANTS FOR THAT FUNDING FOR THAT THAT SHORTFALL THAT WE HAD FROM THAT.

OKAY. SO BEST CASE SCENARIO THAT MONEY MIGHT MOVE TO 2025.

OR DO YOU THINK 2026 IS BEST CASE FOR IT HASN'T BEEN PROPOSED FOR 2025 FUNDING FROM THESE SOURCES THAT ARE LISTED HERE, BUT WE'RE ACTIVELY PURSUING GRANTS.

BUT TO SHOW THAT WHAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE NEED IS POINT NINE.

I'VE REPRESENTED IT IN 2026.

DOES THAT WILL YOU REPRESENT THE 4.2? THE 4.2 MILLION.

RIGHT. OKAY.

BECAUSE WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD BE I THINK WE'RE I THINK THAT ONE OF THE GRANTS THAT'S IN OUR TARGET, IT'S GOING TO BE FAIRLY SOON.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, LISA OR SOMEONE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT AND THAT WE WOULD WE HOPE TO GO BACK OUT FOR BIDS IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2025. THAT IS CORRECT.

IT'S TO GO BACK TO BID.

AND I'LL LET KATY SPEAK TO THE GRANTS THAT THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS FOR.

[02:20:04]

I BELIEVE THE GRANT THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE REGIONAL MEASURE THREE GRANT.

SO YES, THAT APPLICATION IS DUE OCTOBER 14TH AND IS BEING SUBMITTED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF RICHMOND, WHO IS THE ELIGIBLE ENTITY.

SO WE ARE SUBMITTING THAT FORWARD FOR 5 MILLION.

AND THEN WE ACTUALLY JUST TODAY SUBMITTED ANOTHER APPLICATION TO THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY RESTORATION AUTHORITY FOR THEIR MEASURE AA FUNDING.

THERE IS A SMALL COMPONENT OF THE POINT MOLATE PROJECT, OUR SEGMENT THAT HAS A RESTORATION COMPONENT.

AND SO WE SUBMITTED A GRANT APPLICATION TO FUND THAT SECTION.

AND THAT WAS FOR 1 MILLION.

AND SO BOTH OF THOSE WE WOULD LIKELY FIND OUT EARLY SPRING IF THEY'VE BEEN AWARDED.

SO THE HOPE WOULD BE THEN TO START THE WORK IN 2025 OR 2026, DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THE FUNDING.

BUT YES, 2025. YEAH.

YES. OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. SO THE 2026, THE 4.2 IN 2026 IS JUST SIMPLY A PLACEHOLDER.

CORRECT. A CONSERVATIVE ONE, HOPEFULLY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER] CONSERVATIVE AS I COULDN'T PUT IT IN ONE OF THE CATEGORIES WE HAVE HERE.

AND THEN ANYTHING THAT'S HERE IS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE GRANT FUNDING.

IT'S SPECULATIVE.

SO I DIDN'T WANT TO INCLUDE IT AS FUNDING THAT WE CAN COUNT ON RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.

I'LL NEED TO HAVE A BETTER WAY OF REFLECTING.

YEAH. NO, TOTALLY I UNDERSTAND.

WE WERE JUST MEETING WITH RICHMOND'S MAYOR YESTERDAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CORRECT IN WHAT WE HAD TOLD THEM, SO.

OKAY, GOOD. WE'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

AND THEN JUST TO NOTE FOR SOME OF THE PRE-DESIGN PROJECTS, WE DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT ESTIMATE.

SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE GET THE CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATES, THEN THEY'LL BE PLUGGED INTO THIS TABLE.

SO WE HAVE THE FUTURE PROJECTIONS.

SO NOW WE MOVE INTO THE SUMMARY OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION AND I'LL HAND BACK OVER TO AGM SPAULDING.

ALL RIGHT. SO YEAH, THIS IS JUST RECAPPING WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY HEARD.

SO WE'RE WORKING TO ADD IN THIS THIS SUMMARY TABLE INTO OUR 2025 PROJECT BUDGET, OUR CIP BUDGET TO MAKE IT A TRUE CIP, A MORE TRUE CIP THAN IT HAS BEEN.

AS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS UNDERWAY WITH A LOT OF FUNDING NEEDS RIGHT NOW.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT HOW TO MOVE THOSE PROJECTS FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN SPEND OUR MONEY THAT WE DO HAVE, AND SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT OUR PROJECT THROUGHPUT IS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

AND KATY AND HER TEAM ARE, AS YOU JUST HEARD, REALLY ACTIVELY APPLYING FOR GRANTS.

BUT THERE'S JUST THERE ARE TOO MANY NEEDS OUT THERE THAT NOT ALL OF THEM FIT WHAT GRANT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE.

SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH OUR SOURCES.

AND AGAIN, YEAH, THE BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO MODIFY THE WW PROJECT PLAN.

WE'VE GOT THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER BETWEEN ALLOCATION AREAS AND ADJUST BETWEEN ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT USES.

GREAT. KEN, I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE THIS LAST SLIDE.

YEAH I'M STILL DIGESTING EVERYTHING AND DIGESTING.

YEAH. SO CLOSING FIRST OFF, THANKS FOR SPENDING A FRIDAY WITH US.

ESPECIALLY AS WE IMPROVE OUR CIP AND HOW WE EVEN REPORT OUT, BECAUSE INFORMATION IS POWER.

RECEIVING INFORMATION, BUT ALSO GIVING YOU ALL INFORMATION.

OUR NEXT BOARD STUDY SESSION FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS IS IN MARCH OF 2025.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL YOU'D LIKE TO CONSIDER, WE DO HAVE NOTES OF THINGS WE WANT TO IMPROVE ON THAT WE HEARD FROM YOU TO BRING FORWARD.

BUT IF ANYTHING ADDITIONAL, IF YOU REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, OVER THE WEEKEND YOU KNOW, YOU GOT MY EMAIL ADDRESS TO DROP ME A LINE OR CALL ME.

DEFINITELY WELCOME FEEDBACK AND IDEAS.

JUST ALSO, I WANT TO KEEP IN MIND WE'RE USING THE SECOND CENTURY PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO INFORM THE LEVELS OF SERVICE TARGETS BY GAINING, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY INSIGHTS ON PROJECT PRIORITIZATION.

IT'LL BE INTERESTING WHEN WE GO DOWN THAT PATH NEXT YEAR ON DISTRICT PLAN OUTREACH, ENGAGING THE PUBLIC INTERNALLY, GAINING, ENGAGING INTERNALLY. WHAT WE LEARN AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NEW NOW GOING FORWARD.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE AT THE MARCH 2025.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIST OF POST FIVE YEAR PROJECTS.

THOSE THINGS I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE FIVE YEAR CIP, BUT THEY'RE ON OUR LIST OF STUFF WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.

[02:25:06]

WE HEAR THE PUBLIC, WE HEAR THE BOARD, WE HEAR INTERNAL STAFF REQUESTS, AND WE'RE PUTTING THAT ON OUR LIST.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE REFINING THAT PRIORITIZATION PROCESS.

WE'VE LEARNED A LOT BY RUNNING THROUGH THAT SCORING.

WHAT'S MISSING? AND, YOU KNOW, GREAT INPUT FROM THE BOARD TO HELP EVEN HELP US REDEFINE AND REFINE THE SCORING PROCESS.

SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU GUYS ALSO ON MARCH.

SO ANY I TURN IT OVER TO YOU PRESIDENT ECHOLS.

AND OKAY, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM OUR BOARD MEMBERS? DEE. YEAH.

I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS, AND HAVING SEEN ALL THESE PROJECTS ON ONE LIST IS AMAZING.

AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO IT.

IT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME AS A BOARD MEMBER, FOR SURE.

AND I JUST WANT TO REFLECT AS AS A FORMER PARK SUPERVISOR, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT, LIKE PARK SUPERVISORS DO, ONLY ON REAL TIME BASIS, WHERE WE HAVE A FINITE SET OF FUNDS AND THEN STUFF HAPPENS.

YOU KNOW, YOU SET YOUR GOALS FOR THE YEAR, THEN STUFF HAPPENS AND YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO ADJUST.

SO THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF FUN.

IT'S ON A BIGGER SCALE THOUGH.

[LAUGTHER] BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE I REALLY I THINK I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS AND THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME EXCITING DECISIONS IN THE NEXT YEAR.

SO YEAH, IT'S VERY COOL.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE WATCHING.

YES, I'LL BE WATCHING.

PARTICIPATING HOPEFULLY IN THE SECOND CENTURY PLAN.

COLIN. OH, OLIVIA.

[BOARD COMMENTS]

I WONDER. BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH.

YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'LL USE COLIN'S PHRASING ABOUT PET PROJECTS, BUT I WONDER IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO, TO SUBMIT, YOU KNOW, A FEW PET PROJECTS, AND WE COULD RUN IT THROUGH THE RUBRIC.

AND THAT COULD ALSO HELP US TEST THE RUBRIC IN TERMS OF THE CRITERIA.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT COULD ALSO BE REALLY INTERESTING.

AND THEN ALSO THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM EACH OTHER WHERE SOME OF OUR TOP, YOU KNOW, OR NOT TOP, BUT LIKE PET PROJECTS ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION FOR THE MARCH WORKSHOP, BUT THAT COULD BE INTERESTING.

GO AHEAD. I DIRECTOR SANWONG JUST TRIGGERED A THOUGHT FOR ME THAT I HAD EARLIER AND DIDN'T ACT ON.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE AND NOT TOO PROBLEMATIC IF I'M GOING TO SAY 4 OR 5 PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PRIORITIZATION SCORING LIST HERE ARE IN WARD SEVEN, IT.

CAN I POSSIBLY GET A LOOK AT THE SCORE SHEETS? SURE, SURE. YEAH, I'M RAISING IT BECAUSE 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO WE WERE GIVEN SIMILAR SAMPLE SCORING.

AND I REMEMBER DIRECTOR LANE AND I LOOKING AT THE SCORING SAMPLE FOR THE TIMBER PROJECT AT BLACK DIAMOND MINE, AND BOTH OF US THOUGHT THAT IT DESERVED POINTS THAT WEREN'T THERE BECAUSE THE TIMBER PROJECT OR THE LACK OF A PROJECT FIXING THE BACK END OF THE MINE PRECLUDED US FROM FULLY UTILIZING PRIOR PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE GREAT STAIRS PROJECT, WHICH WE SPENT SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS ON DEEP IN THE MINE, OR THE COAL MINE EXPERIENCE, WHICH WE ALSO SPENT SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS, MAYBE 4 OR 5.

ALL OF THOSE TOGETHER, THE BIG STAIRS, THE COAL MINE EXPERIENCE AND THE UPPER MINESHAFT OF MINESHAFT OF THE HAZEL ATLAS MINE.

ALL WERE DESIGNED TO BE ONE PROGRAM FOR OUR NATURALISTS TO OFFER THE PUBLIC.

AND SINCE THAT, TIMBER HAS BEEN OUT AND NOT REPLACED, THE ENTIRETY OF THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN IMPACTED.

AND WE THOUGHT IT DIDN'T GET ENOUGH POINTS BECAUSE IT DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ITS IMPACT ON OTHERS.

AND I THINK THERE IS NOW A CATEGORY FOR MULTI-PROJECT IMPACTS OF ONE.

AND THAT MAY BE WAS THERE.

[02:30:01]

WELL DID IT GET THE TEN POINTS FOR THAT.

SO IT'S IN THE BACK OF MY MIND THAT I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THOSE.

AND I PROMISE NOT TO BE TOO MY COLLEAGUES ARE ALREADY LAUGHING AT ME TWO CRITICAL OR TWO IMPACTFUL ON THE SCORING.

I DON'T WANT TO SEEK MAKING, REDOING, SCORING.

I JUST WANT TO SEE IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAS BEEN ACCOMMODATED.

YEAH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

AND I JUST WANT TO I'M GLAD YOU RAISED THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT THAT WE DID GO BACK.

AND AS WE'VE BEEN REFINING THIS PROCESS AND ADDING DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT YOU'LL SEE NUMBER 48 ON THE LIST THERE, IT DID, GET IT'S ON THERE.

AND IT DID GET A BUMP UP.

YEAH. SO I MEAN, AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, MORE ART THAN SCIENCE.

AND SO DEFINITELY WELCOME THE FEEDBACK.

OLIVIA, DID YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH I GUESS. SURE.

SO SO I GUESS THE OTHER PART OF THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S BROUGHT UP A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING TOPICS.

AND ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT OF, YOU KNOW, THIS MAKES ME GO BACK TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT REPORT AT OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE.

AND I HAD WHEN I WAS ON THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, I HAD HAD A COMMENT ALONG THESE LINES THAT SOMETIMES AND I THINK IT WAS JOHN WHO HAD THIS POINT DURING THE WORKSHOP TODAY, JUST HOW SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT DEGREES OF AWARENESS IN REGARDS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE LIVE AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN, IN REGARDS TO OUR WARDS.

AND SO SOME OF THAT TRACKING IN THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT REPORT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF THE TRACKING ISN'T ALWAYS MAKING IT INTO THE REPORT, EITHER BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE AWARE OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, BRIAN AND HIS TEAM MIGHT NOT BE THINKING TO LOOK AT, AND OR MAYBE IT'S NOT PART OF THAT REPORT.

SO I THINK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THE ALTAMONT LANDFILL OPEN SPACE FUND, AND I CAN JUST SHARE, YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY GOOD AT TRYING TO FIND INFORMATION ONLINE.

AND THAT THAT RIGHT NOW IS MOSTLY, IF NOT COMPLETELY HOUSED WITHIN ALAMEDA COUNTY.

AND WHEN I TRY TO GO AND LOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, MEETING MINUTES AND AGENDA ITEMS AND INFORMATION ABOUT EACH OF THEIR MEETINGS, IT'S NOT VERY EASY FOR ME TO FIND IT.

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE FOLLOWING THAT COMMITTEE.

BUT THAT INFORMATION, I HAVE TROUBLE TRACKING IT DOWN.

AND IT MAY JUST BE ME, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE OTHER POCKETS TOO, OF DIFFICULTY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME MECHANISM FOR US TO ALSO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT SOMEHOW, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY RELEVANT TO THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS CONVERSATION TODAY. AND THEN I HAD ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION, BUT I GUESS ALSO JUST THINKING ABOUT THE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL, THAT'S THE OTHER PART, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MIGHT BE AWARE OF SOMETHING, HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE THAT IN TO STAFF AS SOMETHING TO POTENTIALLY TRACK? AND I GUESS IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO THE CPP SCORE OR WHETHER IT'S EVEN ON THE PROJECT LIST.

SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO USE MY, YOU KNOW, CHAIN OF LAKES PIPELINE THAT'S GOING TO PASS BY SHADOW CLIFFS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EVEN ON OUR LIST.

SO IT'S NOT EVEN REALLY BEING TRACKED RIGHT NOW BY EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF DEPENDENCIES ON THAT IN REGARDS TO ANOTHER AGENCY DECIDING TO GREENLIGHT THAT PROJECT, BUT I THINK IT'S ONE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON TOP OF. AND SO HOW DO WE, I GUESS, WORK ON THAT DEGREE OF COMMUNICATION AND THAT.

SO THAT'S MY QUESTION FOR THAT.

YEAH, I'LL CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.

AND IT'S PROBABLY A BIGGER CONVERSATION.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU NOT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE AND I THINK REN MAYBE SAID THIS AT THE BEGINNING.

NOT EVERYTHING WE'RE WORKING ON OR TRACKING IS ON THIS LIST.

RIGHT. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW SO, YOU KNOW, KEN HAS HIS TEAM OF PLANNERS THAT DO TRACK ALL OF THESE LOCAL AGENCIES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE. SO THERE'S A HUGE LIST OF ITEMS THAT I'D BE SURPRISED IF THAT ONE'S NOT EVEN ON THERE.

I'D BE VERY SURPRISED IF THEY'RE NOT TRACKING THAT COMPLETELY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT'S GREAT FOR US AND I'LL, SPEAK FOR KEN A LITTLE BIT HERE IS JUST CONTINUALLY, YOU KNOW, PINGING US WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, MADE DIFFERENT EFFORTS HERE ABOUT KIND OF HAVING THESE WORD SITE VISITS OR IN THE OFFICE VISITS WHERE WE JUST HAVE THE MAP OPEN.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT, YOU KNOW SHOOTING MESSAGES EITHER TO ME OR TO AMANDA, WHO AND AMANDA TRACKS ALL OF THESE AND GETS THEM TO KEN'S SHOP.

SO JUST CONTINUE TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH US.

THAT'S THE BEST. YOU KNOW YOU ARE.

YOU ARE THE BEST MESSENGERS.

YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE BETTER THAN THAN WE DO OR IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WE DO.

SO JUST, I WOULD JUST SAY CONTINUE TO YOU KNOW, DON'T ASSUME THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I GUESS IS IS A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT.

SO YEAH, MORE INFORMATION IS BETTER.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER [INAUDIBLE]? JUST OTHER THAN THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THE WORK BECAUSE THAT I KNOW IT'S HARD WORK.

[02:35:01]

THAT'S THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY AND I THINK IN ALL PARTS OF EVERYBODY'S LIVES.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING ON IT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, I'LL HIT IT.

I THINK SOME OF THE SHORT SIGHTED ANSWERS ARE PULL FROM THIS OTHER FUND AND BRING IT HERE.

BUT I THINK THE TRUST OF OUR VOTERS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE HAVE AROUND HERE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THEIR TRUST, AND I'D HATE TO VIOLATE THAT IN ANY WAY.

WELL, I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS WORKSHOP OR STUDY SESSION OR WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING THEM NOW.

BUT BUT THIS WAS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL AND VERY PRODUCTIVE.

AND OBVIOUSLY A TON OF WORK WENT INTO ALL OF THESE CAREFULLY PUT TOGETHER DOCUMENTS.

AND IT'S REALLY VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

THIS IS REALLY GREAT.

I HAVE A FEW SMALL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, WHICH I THINK I'LL JUST EMAIL TO KEN, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS HERE RIGHT NOW.

BUT YEAH, JUST THANKS SO MUCH.

WELL DONE. THANK YOU.

ALL VERY, VERY ENGAGING.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT AND WELCOME ALL THE FEEDBACK TO KEN.

[LAUGHTER] AWESOME.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.