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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.THIS IS THE BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4TH, BEGINNING AT 10:36 A.M., AND, MADAM CHAIR, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL? I MEAN, SORRY, MADAM.
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MADAM SECRETARY, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL? YES.THANK YOU. TODAY'S MEETING IS HELD PURSUANT TO THE BROWN ACT.
WE ARE PROVIDING LIVE AUDIO AND VIDEO STREAMING.
THIS INFORMATION IS NOTED ON THE AGENDA, AND I DO NOT SEE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEETING PROCEDURES, WE CAN BEGIN.
GREAT. OKAY, SO FIRST UP I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR JUNE 5TH MEETING.
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I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL, AND I WILL SECOND.ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. NONE OPPOSED.
SO MOTION CARRIES, AND SO I TAKE IT WE DON'T HAVE COMMENTS ON OR OFF THE AGENDA TODAY? NO. OKAY.
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BOARD CALENDAR.WELCOME, DEPUTY MANAGER ALVAREZ.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. PRESIDENT ECHOLS.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE A REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED CALENDAR FOR 2025, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS BASED ON SOME OF THE SURVEY FINDINGS.
DIRECTOR ECHOLS, IS TO REALLY SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY FINALIZE THE RECOMMENDATION TODAY TO GO FORWARD TO THE TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
IN STARTING, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS HAS BEEN A TRUE COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE LEADERSHIP OF YOU, DIRECTOR ECHOLS, FOR PARTNERING WITH STAFF AND HAVING ALL THOSE MEETINGS AND LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES AS WELL AS A NOTE OF GRATITUDE TO THE EXECUTIVE TEAM WHO WENT ALONG WITH THIS JOURNEY AND PROVIDED A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND RAISED THEIR QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THAT REALLY SHAPED WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TODAY. I THINK IN THE MANY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE THAT STANDS OUT IN TERMS OF PROVIDING CONTEXT IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO STRIVE TO BRING FORWARD TO LIFE THE HALLMARKS OF GOOD GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, AND THOSE HALLMARKS OF GOOD GOVERNMENT.
IT'S ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, MAKING PUBLIC DECISIONS, PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC IN HOW IN CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS AND HOW WE SHAPE AND ESTABLISH THE STANDING SCHEDULE OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF THE PARK DISTRICT, AS WELL AS PROVIDING AN ENHANCED ACCESS TO THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
IN THE DISCUSSIONS, I WAS OFTEN REMINDED TO MAKE SURE THAT I GO BACK TO WHY DOES THIS EVEN MATTER? THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, SO WHAT IF THE BOARD DOESN'T ADOPT THE CALENDAR? WHY DOES THAT MATTER? IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CALENDAR, THE BOARD CALENDAR FRAMES THE PARK DISTRICT 'S LEGISLATIVE PROCESS TO ALIGN THE AGENDA PLANNING THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE POLICY ACTIONS BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO ADVANCE MISSION DELIVERY.
WE CANNOT ADVANCE THE MISSION OF THE PARK DISTRICT WITHOUT THE POLICY ACTIONS PER STATE STATUTES, GOVERNMENT LAW, THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES AND THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, AND THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS FRAME THOSE DISCUSSIONS, AND THE CALENDAR BRINGS TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE FRAMEWORK OF THOSE OF THE MEETINGS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, AND AGAIN, WITH THE HALLMARKS OF GOOD GOVERNMENT.
IT IS OUR GOAL, OUR SHARED GOAL, TO BE ABLE TO POST THE CALENDAR AS SOON AS WE CAN ON OUR PUBLIC WEBSITE, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE IN THE DECISION MAKING AND THE DISCUSSIONS OF OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE, IN TERMS OF CONTEXT THAT ALL PUBLIC AGENCIES HAVE A LEGISLATIVE CALENDAR OR BOARD CALENDAR, IT'S UNUSUAL TO ADOPT THE CALENDAR EVERY YEAR.
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HOW WE MEET, WHEN WE MEET SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE PUBLIC RESOURCES, AND THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY POINT TO THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE IN A PUBLIC MEETING THAT JUSTIFIES OR MEMORIALIZES THE DISCUSSION OF THE FORMULATION OF THIS, THE CALENDAR OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY.WE DID A HISTOGRAM, LOOKING BACK 12 YEARS BACK, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 12 YEARS, TO UNDERSTAND THE MOVEMENT AND THE SHIFTING OF THIS CALENDAR, BUT I'M ANTICIPATING THAT IN 2026, PERHAPS THAT THINGS WILL SETTLE AND THEN WE WILL BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH MOST PUBLIC AGENCIES.
I DO WANT TO EXPRESS THAT THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT I'M HERE WITH YOU.
I WAS HERE BACK IN THE MONTH OF JULY, THE MONTH OF JUNE, TO DISCUSS THE PLANNING PROCESS AND THE REASON WHY THE PLANNING PROCESS DESERVED THAT MOMENT IS BECAUSE BASED ON FEEDBACK RECEIVED FROM 2024, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A PROCESS THAT WAS VERY WELL KNOWN TO PEOPLE, THAT ENCAPSULATED THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE AGREEMENTS PERTAINING TO WHAT ARE THE PRINCIPLES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, SUCH AS THE PRINCIPLE THAT WE'RE EMBRACING CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS, BECAUSE IT MATTERS IN TERMS OF MANAGING PUBLIC RESOURCES.
WE ADOPT A CALENDAR THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ADOPT A CALENDAR, UNDERSTANDING THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE ALONG THE WAY, AND IT WAS A COLLECTIVE DECISION MAKING, SO THAT WE CANNOT SAY IT'S A DECISION OF ONE INDIVIDUAL, BUT ACTUALLY ATTRIBUTE THE END, THE END RESULT TO THE COLLECTIVE, AND THAT WE ALSO DO IT IN CREATIVE PATHWAYS THAT ENSURE MEANINGFUL ENGAGEMENT BY KEY STAKEHOLDERS.
THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS REALLY BEGINS WITH THE PUBLIC, AND THE QUESTION WAS ASKED OF ME, SO WHERE DID THE PUBLIC COME IN? WHERE THE PUBLIC COMES IN AS PART OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN WE'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS IN PUBLIC MEETINGS, AND THEN WE HAVE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, I MET AND UNDERSTOOD THE INTEREST OF OUR CURRENT BOARD PRESIDENT, AND ALSO WE SENT OUT A SURVEY TO UNDERSTAND THE INTEREST AND THE INTEREST AND PREFERENCES OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS AND THE BOARD AS A COLLECTIVE, AND ALSO MET WITH THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AT THE REGULAR STANDING MEETINGS AND THE EXECUTIVE TEAM PARTICIPATED IN THIS SURVEY, AND THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT AS PART OF THE CHANNELS FOR MEANINGFUL ENGAGEMENT.
UNLIKE LAST YEAR, WE ISSUED THREE INFORMATIONAL MEMOS TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS STARTING IN MAY ANNOUNCING THE SURVEY AND THE REASON FOR THE SURVEY AND THE GOALS OF THE SURVEY.
THEN IN JUNE, WE ISSUED ANOTHER INFORMATIONAL MEMO THAT SPOKE TO THE PROCESS AND THE TIMELINES, AS WELL AS JUST RECENTLY, ON AUGUST THE 15TH, I SHARED THE SURVEY FINDINGS.
AS WE UNDERSTOOD AND ALSO AFTER MEETING WITH DIRECTOR ECHOLS, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE SOME SOME DECISIONS TO BRING BACK TO THE EXECUTIVE TEAM SOME DISCUSSION POINTS THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE TODAY.
HERE'S THE CALENDAR, AND THIS IS A FLAT IMAGE OF THE CALENDAR, BUT IT'S REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THINK OF IT AS A THREE DIMENSIONAL RUBIK'S CUBE, AND THE REASON WHY I LOOK AT IT THAT WAY IS BECAUSE IT HAS A CASCADING EFFECT.
ONCE YOU START MOVING THINGS AROUND, IT REALLY IMPACTS OR CASCADES DOWN TO OTHER MEETINGS.
SO IT'S A VERY INTERESTING PUZZLE.
IN 2025, WE'RE LOOKING AT 86 PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE, AND THESE MEETINGS CONSIST OF THE MEETINGS OF THE REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE BOARD STANDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS, AS WELL AS THE BOARD MEETINGS, THE SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
ALSO, WHAT I'VE INCLUDED HERE IS THE ABSURD PART DISTRICT HOLIDAYS FOR THAT YEAR, AND WE'VE ALSO PRIORITIZED THE AND RESOLVE FOR SCHEDULING CONFLICTS FOR THE PARK DISTRICT ADVOCACY EVENTS, WHICH CONSIST OF AN ADDITIONAL SET OF MEETINGS OVER THE COURSE OF SEVEN DAYS, AND THIS CALENDAR THAT YOU SEE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU ALSO INCORPORATES THE BOARD'S SUMMER RECESS FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, WHICH I'LL
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EXPLAIN MORE IN A LITTLE BIT.THE CALENDAR, WHAT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE, AND THAT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT POINT, IT DOES NOT RESOLVE FOR THE ADDITIONAL 74 PARK DISTRICT MEETINGS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED, THAT REQUIRES THE PARTICIPATION OF BOARD MEMBERS IN THE UPCOMING YEAR AND THOSE ADDITIONAL 74 PARK DISTRICT MEETINGS.
IT ALSO DOES NOT CURRENTLY INCLUDE THE TEN INTERAGENCY MEETINGS WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE PLANNED FOR 2025, NOR DOES IT INCLUDE THE 50 LOCAL GOVERNMENT MEETINGS WITH.
THAT INCLUDES THE PARTICIPATION OF UP TO TWO BOARD MEMBERS AS PART OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM IN THE GOVERNMENT AND LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS TEAM IN THE GENERAL MANAGER'S OFFICE. SO WE STILL SO BASICALLY, THE CALENDAR THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU SERVES AS A BASE SO THAT WE CAN BUILD THE SECOND TIER, AND THAT SECOND TIER IS DEFINED BY THOSE 74 ADDITIONAL MEETINGS THAT REQUIRES THE PARTICIPATION OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
ADDITIONALLY, WHAT'S NOT HERE IS THE NEXT SET OF EVENTS, PARK DISTRICT EVENTS THAT WILL BE BUILT INTO THIS CALENDAR, BASED BASED ON THIS PROPOSED 36 MEETINGS FOR THINGS LIKE THE SERVICE AWARDS WHERE WE ENCOURAGE AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PARTICIPATION OF BOARD MEMBERS. NOW I'M GOING TO DIVE INTO THE SPECIFIC DETAILS IN YOUR AGENDA STAFF REPORT.
ATTACHMENT A, YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE CALENDAR IN ONE ONE PAGE.
IT'S DOUBLE SIDED AND YOU CAN USE THAT TO AS I WALK YOU THROUGH THE SPECIAL DETAILS OR THE DETAILS OF EACH OF THOSE MEETINGS, IN TERMS OF THE REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD.
YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT AS THE ONES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED HERE IS RESPONSIVE TO THE BOARD CALENDAR SURVEY IN THE SENSE THAT THE STANDING SCHEDULE FOR THE REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS REMAINED AS THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE GOING BACK TO, I THINK, 15 YEARS.
THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR THE FOR THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS HERE AT THE PARK DISTRICT.
THE CALENDAR FOR 25 ALSO PROPOSES, AS IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, ONE MEETING IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT JANUARY THE 14TH, NOT THE 20TH, AND THE REASON FOR THAT, IT'S LOOKING AT POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF PEOPLE WANTING TO TRAVEL TO WASHINGTON, DC IN TERMS OF THE PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATION.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, THAT WE KEEP ONE MEETING IN EAST CONTRA COSTA COUNTY IN THE MONTH OF JUNE AT BIG BREAK VISITOR CENTER, AND ALSO THE REGULAR FULL BOARD MEETINGS PROPOSED FOR 25 IS RESPONSIVE TO THE SURVEY BECAUSE IT SHIFTS BACK THE BOARD'S SUMMER RECESS FROM AUGUST TO JULY.
SO YOU JUST CAME BACK FROM YOUR SUMMER RECESS IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST.
BASED ON THE SURVEY, THERE WAS A GREAT MAJORITY OF THE BOARD DESIRES TO MOVE TO SHIFT THAT SUMMER RECESS TO THE MONTH OF JULY, WHICH WE'VE DONE HERE, AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS WE BASED ON THE SURVEY FINDINGS, WE ARE KEEPING THE BUDGET HEARINGS, AS IN THE PAST YEARS, WITH ONE EVENING PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, AND WE WILL HAVE IN 2025, 21 MEETINGS, JUST LIKE WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST 12 YEARS IN TERMS OF THE STANDING BOARD COMMITTEE MEETINGS, IT DOES ADHERE TO THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES THAT PROVIDE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON THE TYPE OF STANDING BOARD, COMMITTEE MEETINGS, AND THE ALIGNMENT OF POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS OR ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PUT FORWARD TO THOSE RESPECTIVE COMMITTEES SO THAT THEY CAN ADVANCE TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
SO IT'S ALSO RESPONSIVE TO THE SURVEY FINDINGS IN TERMS THAT THE SCHEDULE REMAINS AS FAVORED BY THE BOARD , AND HERE I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE EXECUTIVE TEAM STRONGLY FAVORED ABOUT 71% OF THE EXECUTIVE TEAM FAVOR MOVING THESE STANDING BOARD COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO TUESDAYS, CONSOLIDATING THEM ALL TO TUESDAYS, AND HAVING MEETINGS ONLY ON TUESDAYS BETWEEN 9:00 AND 12:30 AND AGAIN BETWEEN 1:00 AND 4:30, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE DESIRE OF THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, AND FOR THAT, WHILE THEY WERE SPLIT ON THE ISSUE, WE DID LEARN THAT SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS CLARIFIED THEIR RESPONSES, AND THAT SHOWED THAT INDICATED THAT, IN FACT, THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD DESIRED THE STATUS QUO,
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WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE BOARD AND WE WILL DEFER TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS INTERESTS.SO THIS THE STANDING SCHEDULE REMAINS, EXCEPT THAT IN RESPONDING TO SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AND A BOARD MEMBER, WE SWAPPED THE STANDING SCHEDULE BETWEEN FOR THE BOARD FINANCE COMM ITTEE AND THE BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE THERE, AND THEN ALSO WE INCORPORATED AGAIN JULY AS THE RECESS, AND WE INCORPORATED AND RESOLVED FOR THE PARK DISTRICT HOLIDAYS. ON AVERAGE, THERE'S ABOUT 11 MEETINGS PER EACH COMMITTEE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BOARD'S NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES AND MEETS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
IN THE STANDING BOARD COMMITTEES, WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, AND AT THE REQUEST OF DIRECTOR ECHOLS, WE'RE HERE TO ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT FURTHER EXPLORING THE STARTING TIMES OF THE BOARD COMMITTEE MEETINGS, AND THIS IS DONE IN RESPONSE TO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. FOUR OUT OF SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS SHARE IN THE SURVEY CONCERNS PERTAINING TO TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION THAT CREATES A HARDSHIP FOR THE STARTING TIMES OF THESE MEETINGS.
SO ALTERNATIVELY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER AND BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT, WE CAN SHIFT THE MEETINGS TO STARTING TIMES INSTEAD OF 10:30 IN THE MORNING, WE CAN SHIFT THE STARTING TIMES TO 11:00, WHICH MIRRORS THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING SCHEDULE FOR CLOSED SESSION.
THAT'S ONE OPTION THAT YOU CAN YOU CAN THINK ABOUT.
ALTERNATIVELY, YOU CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT SHIFTING THE STARTING TIMES TO EARLY EVENINGS, WHICH WILL BE 5:00 TILL ABOUT 7 OR 7:30 AT NIGHT.
I'M LAUGHING BECAUSE I SAW A BODILY REACTION HERE OR THE OTHER OPTION IS KEEP THEM AS IS.
YEAH, WE CAN COME BACK IF YOU LIKE.
SORRY. WE CAN FINISH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK IF THAT'S.
SO WE CAN COME BACK TO IT, AND LOOKING AT THE SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR 2025? IT DOES ADHERE TO THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES.
THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OF THE TYPE OF SPECIAL MEETINGS WHEN THESE MEETINGS CAN TAKE PLACE, AND THE TOPICS THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN THESE MEETINGS, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR 2025 RESOLVED FOR IT'S RESPONSIVE TO THE SURVEY BECAUSE WE SAW THAT THERE WAS CONFLICT WITH THE DATES THAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO CHECK ON THE AVAILABILITY OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS.
THERE WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFLICTS AND 40% FOR THE STUDY SESSIONS, AND I BELIEVE 60% FOR THE BOARD SITE VISITS OR ALSO KNOWN AS THE BOARD TOURS.
SO IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH PRESIDENT ECHOLS, SHE BROUGHT UP AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FACT THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CENSUS, WE'RE DOING THIS EARLY ENOUGH THAT WE CAN SEND OUT ADDITIONAL SET OF MEETINGS TO RESOLVE FOR THOSE CONFLICTS, TO ENSURE THE PARTICIPATION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AT THEIR SPECIAL MEETINGS, WHICH I APPRECIATE.
SO WE WENT BACK, WE RESHUFFLED ALL THE RUBIK'S CUBE, AND WE FOUND ADDITIONAL DATES, AND NOW THE DATES THAT YOU HAVE HERE BASED ON THAT SCHEDULING PROCESS, WE KNOW AS OF TODAY THAT ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE AVAILABLE TO PARTICIPATE, AND WE HAVE A BOARD RETREAT SCHEDULED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR FOR JANUARY '24.
WE ALSO HAVE FIVE BOARD STUDY SESSIONS ON LAND ACQUISITION TRAILS, CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND BOARD PRIORITIES THAT ALIGN WITH THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE PARK DISTRICT AND EACH OF THE TOPICAL AREAS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN ADVANCE, SO THAT YOU CAN ANTICIPATE AND PLAN OF WHAT'S COMING NEXT IN THE STUDY SESSIONS.
ALSO, WE HAVE JUST LIKE LAST YEAR, WE HAVE FOUR BOARD SITE VISITS OUT IN THE FIELD, ALSO KNOWN AS BOARD TOURS, STARTING WITH THE MONTH OF MAY, AND THEY CARRY ON THROUGH THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, AND WE RESOLVED FOR THE PARK DISTRICT HOLIDAYS AND AS WELL AS THE SUMMER RECESS FOR THE BOARD IN 2025.
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LOCATION, TO ROTATE THE LOCATIONS, TO CONDUCT FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETINGS.IN ADDITION TO THE SIX MEETINGS PROPOSED ALREADY IN 2025, AND THOSE SIX MEETINGS INCLUDE THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT BIG BREAK VISITOR CENTER IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, PLUS THE FIVE BOARD TOURS.
THOSE BOARD TOURS OR SITE VISITS ARE MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD.
THEY'RE SPECIAL MEETINGS, BUT IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
SO AS YOU THINK ABOUT, WE THOUGHT ABOUT REALLY THE OPPORTUNITY AND ABOUT EXPANDING THAT INTEREST, AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE ONLY CONSTRAINTS HERE IN TERMS OF THE FACILITY IS THE ABILITY TO CONDUCT HYBRID MEETINGS AND EXTEND VIDEOGRAPHY SERVICES.
IF WE GO TO TRUDEAU, IF WE GO TO DIFFERENT PLACES THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT WARDS, THAT AVAILABILITY TO TECHNOLOGY WILL VARY, BUT THE PUBLIC WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC AND AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THE POLICY DISCUSSIONS.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT IF THERE'S AN INTEREST FOR YOU TO INCREASE MEETINGS BEING CONDUCTED OUT IN THE WARDS AT VARIOUS WARDS, THAT YOU DO SO AT YOUR SPECIAL MEETINGS, WHICH INCLUDES THE STUDY SESSIONS FIVE STUDY SESSIONS IN ONE ANNUAL RETREAT, WHICH INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WE USED TO DO THAT BACK, I BELIEVE, BEFORE THE COVID PANDEMIC.
WE USED TO GO OUT TO KENNEDY GROVE AND WE USED TO GO OUT TO TEMESCAL AS WELL AS TRUDEAU.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, AND I'LL COME BACK SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THEN I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WHAT THESE MEETINGS ARE NOT MEETINGS OF THE BOARD.
THEY ARE PART OF THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES.
WE DO HAVE ALTERNATING BOARD MEMBERS PARTICIPATING IN THOSE MEETINGS.
WE HAVE CHECKED ON THE AVAILABILITY THROUGH THE SURVEY OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS, AND WE WILL BE INCORPORATING THE AVAILABILITY OF INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS AS WE ASSIGN THOSE MEETINGS TO YOU, AND I'M HOPING TO HAVE THAT DONE WHEN WE GET READY TO PRESENT THE CALENDAR TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
WE DID RESOLVE THE MEETINGS THAT YOU SEE HERE FOR 2025 RESULTS FOR AGAIN FOR THE SUMMER RECESS, AND WE ARE STILL PLANNING TO HAVE A FALL FIELD TRIP IN THE MONTH OF OF SEPTEMBER, AS WELL AS THE ANNUAL PACK RECOGNITION EVENT IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.
NOW I'M GOING TO SHIFT AND SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THE PARK DISTRICT'S ANNUAL ADVOCACY EVENTS, AND THESE ADVOCACY EVENTS REQUIRES THE PARTICIPATION OF THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND THE 2025 BOARD CALENDAR PRIORITIZES THESE THREE EVENTS.
OVERALL AS THE TOP PRIORITY, AND IT PROACTIVELY INTEGRATES THE ADVOCACY CONFERENCE IN WASHINGTON AND SACRAMENTO IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, AND ALSO RESULTS FOR SCHEDULING CONFLICTS PERTAINING TO HOLIDAYS AND OBSERVED HOLIDAYS AND THE SUMMER RECESS FOR THE BOARD . SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING IN GOING TO SACRAMENTO IN JANUARY LIKE WE DID THIS YEAR AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT MAY, AS WE DID THIS YEAR, TO TRAVEL TO WASHINGTON, DC AND CONDUCT THESE CONFERENCES.
THE LEGISLATIVE APPRECIATION LUNCH IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M HOPING TO HAVE RESOLVED WITH THE TEAM BEFORE WE GO TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND THEN I DO WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ABOUT RESOLVING FOR SCHEDULING CONFLICTS.
APPENDIX ATTACHMENT C OF YOUR REPORT, I HAVE PROVIDED A LISTING OF NON-PARK DISTRICT OPTIONAL CONFERENCES, AND I WANTED TO SAY AND I WANTED TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME EXPLAINING THAT THESE CONFERENCES, PER THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES ARE OPTIONAL, AND THEY'RE THERE TO SUPPORT THE ROLE OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS IN AFFECTING THEIR DUTIES AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF THE EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT.
SO AND THESE CONFERENCES ARE BEING PROVIDED BY A THIRD PARTY ORGANIZER.
THEY'RE NOT PARK DISTRICT EVENTS.
SO I THINK IN RESOLVING FOR THE RUBIK'S CUBE AND THE 86 MEETINGS PLUS THE ADDITIONAL 74 MEETINGS, THE CONCLUSION IS THAT THE GREATEST FLEXIBILITY REALLY EXISTS WITHIN EACH INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS CHOICES, AND BY OPERATIONALIZING THE BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES IN RESOLVING POTENTIAL SCHEDULING CONFLICTS, AND BY THAT SPECIFICALLY THE OPERATING GUIDELINES PROVIDES US WITH LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT THE REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD CAN CONTINUE.
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IF WE HAVE A QUORUM, FOUR OUT OF SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS, AND THE STANDING BOARD COMMITTEES, WE NEED TWO OUT OF THREE BOARD COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO BE HERE PRESENT TO CONDUCT THE MEETING.WE ALSO CAN AVAIL OURSELVES AND THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL GOAL IN 2023 TO START REALLY LEANING ON AND USING AND ACTIVATING THE BOARD COMMITTEE ALTERNATE THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE BOARD PRESIDENT TO EACH OF THESE FIVE BOARD COMMITTEES, AND THAT'S THE ROLE OF THE BOARD ALTERNATE TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND STEP INTO THAT ROLE IN THE ABSENCE OF AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER.
SO ATTACHMENT C PROVIDES YOU WITH 11 PROFESSIONAL INDUSTRY EVENTS THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO YOU IN 2025 AT YOUR DISCRETION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE INFORMATION FOR FOR THE MAJORITY OF THEM, ABOUT 60% OF THEM, WE HAVE INFORMATION THAT'S INCLUDED, AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CONFLICTS AND IDENTIFY THE CONFLICTS AS YOU THINK ABOUT FOR BOARD MEMBERS AS THEY THINK ABOUT REQUESTING THEIR APPOINTMENTS TO SPECIFIC STANDING BOARD COMMITTEES.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE TWO EVENTS THAT ARE MOSTLY HAS THE HIGHEST MAJORITY OF BOARD MEMBER ATTENDANCE, THERE ARE NO CONFLICTS.
THERE'S NO CONFLICTS FOR 2025, WHICH INCLUDES THE CALIFORNIA TRAILS AND GREENWAYS CONFERENCE AS WELL AS THE SPECIAL PARK DISTRICTS FORUM, AND WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON A COUPLE OF THOSE CONFERENCES, BUT AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE INFORMATION, WE WILL UPDATE THIS ATTACHMENT AND WE WILL INCLUDE THIS, AND THIS INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S OFFICE.
AS AS YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE EVENTS, AND IN THAT I'D LIKE TO--IT'S NOT MOVING--SHARE THAT THIS IS THE CALENDAR THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
IT FRAMES THE AGENDA PLANNING FOR THE BOARD POLICY ACTION TO ADVANCE OUR MISSION DELIVERY.
IT DOES ADHERE SPECIFICALLY TO BOARD OPERATING GUIDELINES.
SECTION TWO, THE STRUCTURE OF THE BOARD AND SECTION THREE BOARD RESPONSIBILITIES, AS WELL AS PRIORITIZES THE PARK DISTRICT'S EVENTS, SPECIFICALLY THE ADVOCACY ANNUAL CONFERENCES, AND IT WAS WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE IT WAS FORMULATED OR DEVELOPED IN CONSULTATION WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AS WELL AS THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, AND IT WAS DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH BOARD PRESIDENT ECHOLS AND GENERAL MANAGER LANDRETH, AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT'S BEEN REVIEWED IN A PUBLIC MEETING HERE WITH THE BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AFTER TODAY'S DISCUSSIONS, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE ANY REVISIONS, AND THE GOAL IS TO GET IT IN FRONT OF THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION AT THEIR MEETING IN ON OCTOBER THE 1ST, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE DISCUSSION.
UNLESS, DIRECTOR WAESPI, DID YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF GENERAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE DO THAT? NO, OTHER THAN JUST.
WELL, NO, I'LL WE'LL DO THIS FIRST.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE BOARD COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
I MEAN, I CAN JUST KICK IT OFF IF YOU WANT.
SO HERE, YOU KNOW, AS DEPUTY MANAGER, ALVAREZ JUST DESCRIBED DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER.
DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER ALVAREZ.
SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHY I DROPPED OUT THAT MIDDLE PART THERE.
MY FEELING IS, IF IT HELPS SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS TO START AT 11 INSTEAD OF 10:30.
I AM CERTAINLY OPEN TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK.
YOU KNOW, I'M OPEN TO DOING THE EARLY MEETINGS.
YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR OUR PUBLIC.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A LOT WORSE FOR SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS IN TERMS OF COMMUTE TIMES.
IT DOESN'T GET MUCH WORSE THAN 5 TO 7, OR MAYBE 4 TO 6 IS WORSE, BUT ANYWAY, SO YEAH, THERE'S A TRADE OFF THERE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
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SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE WE WOULD HAVE IF WE MOVED TO THE EVENINGS.SO THOSE ARE THAT'S SORT OF MY TWO CENTS ON IT.
YEAH, I AGREE, I IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
I WOULD PREFER AN EARLIER BOARD MEETING, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT JUST RECENTLY I ACHIEVED THE STATUS OF BEING THE CLOSEST PERSON TO THIS MEETING, AND IT'S 15 MINUTES FROM ME. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, NO MATTER WHAT.
SO I WILL I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL LONG DISTANCES, AND I WILL AGREE WITH WHATEVER THEY FEEL I CAN MAKE ANY TIMES, AND I YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE IDEA.
I ALWAYS LIKED THE IDEA OF DOING EVENING BOARD MEETINGS.
I STOOD BY THAT ALONG WITH DIRECTOR ROSARIO, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE SO FAR AWAY FROM ANYTHING ELSE AND SOME PEOPLE WORK, BUT AT SOME POINT WE'RE JUST WHEN WE WOULD DO IT, WE JUST NEVER SAW THE RESULTS THAT WE EXPECTED OF LOTS OF PEOPLE COMING TO OUR MEETINGS AND LOTS OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THE HYBRID MEETINGS AND PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE AT HOME AND PARTICIPATE, I THINK IT'S THAT'S, THAT WAS THE INSTRUMENT TO USE TO HAVE MORE PARTICIPATION IN MY OPINION.
SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH DOING MEETINGS DURING THE DAY ANYMORE.
SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED, THAT YOU, YOU'RE AMICABLE OR YOU'RE LOOKING AT SHIFTING THE MEETINGS TO START AT 11:00.
YEAH. WELL, I THINK YES, ABSOLUTELY.
I'M NOT 15 MINUTES AWAY, BUT I'M USUALLY IF THE TRAFFIC IS GOOD ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR FROM HERE.
SO I, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL FOR ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY IF IT HELPS OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND IF IT'S NOT TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN FOR STAFF TO MOVE FROM 10:30 TO 11, THEN YEAH, LET'S DO IT.
WE'LL MAKE THE REVISIONS IN TIME FOR THE NEXT FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
LOOKING AT SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD IN TERMS OF TAKING SOME THE SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS OUT INTO THE RESPECTIVE WARDS AND ROTATING AMONGST THOSE WARDS AS THE YEARS GO BY.
SO THIS IS FOR THE STUDY SESSIONS AND SITE VISITS.
YEAH. AGAIN I KNOW THERE'S THESE THINGS ARE WORK INTENSIVE AS IT IS.
SO I YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF STAFF AND THEIR TIME, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN MEET IN OTHER PLACES FOR SOME OF THESE SPECIAL MEETINGS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I ACTUALLY I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US MEET QUARTERLY IN OTHER HAVE THE FULL BOARD MEETING, THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING, MEET QUARTERLY AND OTHER YOU KNOW, IN OTHER SPOTS IF WE COULD DO IT WITH THE TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO BE OUT CLOSER TO PEOPLE THAT ARE CONSTITUENTS AND IF WE'RE ALWAYS HERE, IT DOES MAKE IT.
IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH HARDER TO GET HERE.
ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE THE WE DO HAVE THE VIDEO.
SO YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
NOT FOR THIS YEAR BUT MAYBE FOR NEXT YEAR TO THINK ABOUT IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THE STUDY SESSIONS OR NOT, THE STUDY SESSION, BUT SOME OF THE SPECIAL MEETINGS AND OH, IT IS STUDY SESSIONS.
I REMEMBER GOING TO KENNEDY GROVE, TEMESCAL.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, AND I WOULD EVEN INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, IF WE START THE MEETING AT 9:00, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF BOARD MEMBERS WOULD BE AVAILABLE OPTIONALLY TO. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET OUT AND MEET THE PARK SUPERVISOR, THE PARK STAFF, AND IT'S A GREAT WAY TO TAKE.
I'D LOVE TO WALK AROUND LAKE TEMESCAL.
YEAH. I'M TOTALLY IN THE CONCEPT OF SPREADING THE MEETINGS OUT.
HAVE QUARTERLY MEETINGS IN THE FIELD.
I KNOW IT'S INCREDIBLY HARD FOR STAFF.
I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE PARK DISTRICT, THOUGH.
SO I WOULD NOT THIS YEAR, BUT MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT.
SO JUST TO REITERATE, TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M LISTENING CORRECTLY, YOUR INTEREST.
WE WILL BE SHIFTING OR MOVING THE LOCATION OF THE BOARD.
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2026 BOARD CALENDAR TO THINK ABOUT ROTATING ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, THE REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS.YEAH, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, SO SO IS WOULD THAT BE ALL OF THE STUDY SESSIONS OUTSIDE THIS BUILDING OR JUST SOME OF THEM? IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE SOME OF IT COULD BE ALL OF THEM OR SOME OF THEM.
IT COULD BE EITHER WAY, AND IN PAST YEARS, PRIOR TO COVID, WE DID HAVE 1 OR 2 OF THE STUDY SESSIONS IN THIS BUILDING, AND THE REMAINING WERE OUT IN THE FIELD. YEAH, I YOU KNOW, I'M FINE WITH THE BALANCE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S HARDER TO HAVE HAVE THESE MEETINGS HELD ELSEWHERE.
I THINK IT CERTAINLY IS EASIER FOR STAFF, BUT I DO AGREE WITH DIRECTOR WAESPI THAT TO HAVE SOME OF THEM OUT IN THE FIELD, LIKE LIKE YOU JUST SAID, KENNEDY GROVE AND TEMESCAL AND SOME OF THE OTHER SPOTS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE.
I WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE WEREN'T DOING KENNEDY GROVE, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT WE WERE DOING TEMESCAL AND IT WAS REALLY IT WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL TO BE OUT THERE IN THAT GORGEOUS SPOT AND JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE PARKS.
YES. YEAH. AS I'M LISTENING, I'M IMAGINING A STUDY SESSION IN THE IN THE FARMHOUSE IN OUR WOODS.
YES, WE CAN DO THAT, AND THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION FOR STAFF.
WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU AND TO CREATE THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEETING, BUT ALSO A MEMORABLE EXPERIENCE FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIAL AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS A BACKDROP TO YOUR DISCUSSIONS IN THE POLICY ACTIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING TO ADVANCE THE MISSION OF THE DISTRICT.
I DO NEED A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE REVISIONS, AND THE REVISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING ARE AS FOLLOWS.
WE WILL ALSO SHIFT THE STARTING TIME.
SO THE BOARD STANDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS FROM 10:30 TO 11:00 IN THE MORNING, AND THEN I'LL MEMORIALIZE THE INTEREST OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO FOR THINKING ABOUT QUARTERLY MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN 2026.
I'LL PUT IT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO SO WE CAN MEMORIZE THIS, BUT THAT'S NOT A CONSIDERATION FOR THE 2025 CALENDAR.
SO WITH THOSE REVISIONS THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION.
COULD I DELVE A LITTLE MORE INTO THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S WILLING TO DO THIS, BUT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO HOLD THESE MEETINGS AND I CAN UNDERSTAND SORT OF THAT IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT IS IT SO DIFFICULT THAT IT DOESN'T.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE AN OPINION OF THIS BUILDING.
I CAN'T ASSIGN A VALUE TO IT SIMPLY BECAUSE I CAN'T BALANCE IT AGAINST THE WHAT THE ISSUES ARE OF MOVING, HAVING A TRAVELING CIRCUS, SO TO SPEAK.
SO I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OPINIONS? BECAUSE I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING ALL 6 OR 5 STUDY SESSIONS OUT IN THE FIELD, I THINK IT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN FIVE DIFFERENT PLACES THAT ARE NATURAL PLACES THAT WE SUGGEST ARE THE NICEST PLACES IN THE WORLD TO BE, AND MEET FIVE DIFFERENT PARK STAFFS AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUAINT OURSELVES WITH THAT PARK IS MUCH NICER THAN THIS PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS WILLING TO.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT BALANCES, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORKLOAD IS TO GET PEOPLE INTO DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT I'M THINKING OF COYOTE HILLS WHEN WE WENT OR PARDON ME DUMBARTON QUARRY CAMPGROUND.
THAT FACILITY IS A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN THIS PLACE, NO OFFENSE, THAT WE COULD HAVE A MEETING AND INVITE THE PUBLIC THERE AND SAY, LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL FACILITY, AND T HEY'VE GOT ALL THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE WORLD.
I THINK IT WOULD BE SIMPLE TO DO IT THERE, BUT I DON'T JUST.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, ON OUR PART, WE'RE WE'RE JUST WE'RE NOT MAKING AN ASSUMPTION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO THESE IN OTHER PLACES.
SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR FROM EITHER YOU OR THE GM OR WHOEVER.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS AND HOW DIFFICULT IS IT? AND BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS A BALANCE.
I MEAN, CERTAINLY TO BE OUT IN A BEAUTIFUL SPOT IS IS I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY VALUE IN HAVING US GO TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE DISTRICT AND HAVING OUR MEETINGS IN DIFFERENT SITES, WHETHER THEY BE THE FULL BOARD MEETINGS OR THE NOW, JUST NOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STUDY SESSIONS.
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SO I'LL JUST WEIGH IN ON THE BIG PICTURE AND ANA COULD SPEAK OR LYNNE AND THE CLERK CAN SPEAK TO THE LOGISTICAL CONSTRAINTS, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST ASSURE YOU, IF IT'S A FRAMING OF WANTING TO GET THE STAFF OUT INTO THE FIELD, I ASSURE YOU, THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE ARE OUT IN THE FIELD ALL THE TIME.SO I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD, AND I REALLY WANT TO CREDIT KEN AND HIS TEAM AND LISA AND HER TEAM FOR TRYING TO GET IT SO THAT YOU HAVE MORE SITE VISITS OUT THERE, WHETHER YOU'RE DOING THEM AS A TEAM, WHICH I THINK IS KIND OF COOL THAT WE DID THAT.
I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE OF THAT WITH TWO BOARD MEMBERS AND TIME SO THAT YOU CAN GO SEE YOUR WARD OR OTHER PEOPLE'S WARDS, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. THE QUESTION IS THESE BUSINESS MEETINGS.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO FRAME THE CONTEXT THAT IF IT IS A DESIRE TO GET OUT INTO THE PARKS MORE, WE CAN WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT FOR THE BOARD BUT IF IT'S ABOUT THE BUSINESS MEETING, I JUST WANT TO MAYBE DEFER TO THE TECHNICAL STAFF HERE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
IT IS A LOGISTICAL IT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL LOGISTICAL COORDINATION.
WE ARE, THEY'RE TRADE OFFS, AND PART OF THE TRADE OFFS IS WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE TECHNOLOGY.
SO THAT WILL WILL NOT BE WE WILL NOT BE ABLE IN SOME CASES BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A HYBRID MEETING.
WE HAVE AN AMAZING TEAM IN THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, AND THEY HAVE DONE THEIR WORK AT TRUDEAU.
THEY HAVE DONE THEIR WORK AT KENNEDY GROVE, THEY HAVE DONE THEIR WORK AT TEMESCAL, AND THEY AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS THEM FROM CONTINUING TO DO THAT. I THINK THE AND WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN SPRINKLE THAT IN IN THOSE SPECIAL MEETINGS TO CREATE THAT OVERALL EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF CONDUCTING THE BUSINESS IN A DIFFERENT BACKDROP, AND THAT LYNNE, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? NO, I DON'T UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME.
WE'VE GOT LOOKS LIKE SIX OF THEM FOR NEXT YEAR.
THE STUDY SESSIONS ARE SPECIAL BOARD MEETINGS, AND SO MAYBE DO HALF AND SEE HOW IT GOES, AND THEN WE CAN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE CAN EITHER SCALE BACK OR WE COULD ADD MORE OR WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, TRY IT.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, AND I DO THINK I THINK TRADITIONALLY WE HAVE CONTINUED TO DO THE BOARD ANNUAL RETREAT SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN HERE, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE IDEA OF DOING A RETREAT HERE IS REALLY A RETREAT.
SO BUT BUT I THINK MAYBE TO DO A COUPLE AT LEAST, WELL, THE ANNUAL RETREAT AND THEN A COUPLE OF THE STUDY SESSIONS SOMEWHERE ELSE WOULD BE IS WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST. OKAY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOLANDE BARIAL-KNIGHT, CLERK OF THE BOARD.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE, IN TERMS OF A BUSINESS MEETING AND JUST THE REGULAR BOARD PRIORITIES MEETINGS, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR STAFF THAT HAVE THAT HAVE TO DO ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS.
THE STUDY SESSIONS, I BELIEVE, SHOULD STAY HERE IN THE IN THE MAIN OFFICE FOR ASD AND OPERATIONS AND THE CAPITAL PROJECTS MEETINGS.
I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE DO THE BOARD PRIORITIES PART ONE AND TWO IN THE FIELD, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BOARD ANNUAL RETREAT IN THE FIELD SOMEWHERE ANYWAY.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY PROPOSAL IN TERMS OF WHAT THE GENERAL, THE DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER, IS SAYING FOR STAFF, THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S OFFICE CAN HAVE THE MEETING ANYWHERE THAT YOU LIKE. WE ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD IS SATISFIED AND GETS WHAT IT NEEDS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
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TECHNOLOGY IS THE ONLY DRAWBACK AS TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE IT, BUT THOSE WOULD BE MY SUGGESTIONS.ANNUAL RETREAT AND THE BOARD PRIORITIES PART ONE AND TWO OUT IN THE FIELD.
SO WOULD WE FOR THE SITES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THERE LIKE SAY TEMESCAL.
DIRECTOR ECHOLS, WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONFER WITH THE EXECUTIVE TEAM TO DECIDE WHAT THE STUDY SESSIONS THAT ARE MOST APPROPRIATE TO TAKE OUT IN THE FIELD AND THAT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS OF THE LOCATION FOR US TO EXPLORE THE FACILITIES, CONSTRAINTS AND OPPORTUNITIES BUT WE HEARD YOU THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT 50% OF THESE SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE FULL BOARD TO BE OUT IN THE RESPECTIVE WARDS.
I THINK IT IS WORTH MENTIONING, TOO, THAT THERE WAS QUITE A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS DONE IN THIS BUILDING FOR THE AV TO WORK, TO BE ABLE TO HOST HYBRID MEETINGS, AND SO THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER LOCATION WHERE WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE HERE, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE SOMETIMES EVEN RUN INTO PROBLEMS HERE TRYING. IT JUST TAKES A LOT OF CAPACITY, AND THERE'S CAMERAS AND THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM NOT HAVING EVERY MEETING STREAMED, BUT IF YOU'RE I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT WE COULD HOLD A HYBRID MEETING AT TEMESCAL OR ANY OF THE OTHER FACILITIES.
SO I WOULDN'T I GUESS WHAT I WAS THINKING IS IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE PARTICIPATION VIA THE HYBRID, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE THE BOARD PRIORITIES DISCUSSION WOULD BE ONE THAT SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC BEYOND JUST FOLKS COMING THERE.
SO COMING TO THE TO THE MEETING IN PERSON.
YOU HAVE EVERY DEPARTMENT COMING IN AND REPORTING TO YOU ON ON THEIR WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.
SO AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS WHERE THE BOARD MEMBERS, SABRINA'S PROBABLY BETTER TO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT WERE YOU THEN GIVE YOUR PRIORITIES AND RUN IT BACK TO STAFF.
SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR THE EXECUTIVE TEAM TO COORDINATE ON THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR DOING MEETINGS IN THE FIELD, AND THERE'S NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO HAVE THE MEETINGS BE HELD HYBRID, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T AGENDIZE IT AS A HYBRID MEETING AND YOU AGENDIZE IT AS AN IN-PERSON MEETING.
YOU'RE TOTALLY WITHIN THE LAW TO DO THAT.
ALVAREZ'S SUGGESTION TO DISCUSS AMONGST THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AND COME BACK WITH A SUGGESTION ABOUT WHAT MEETINGS AND WHERE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH WOULD BE HELPFUL.
OKAY, AND SO WE WILL DO THAT AND MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU WILL SEE THAT REFLECTED IN THE CALENDAR THAT WILL BE MOVING FORWARD.
IF YOU DECIDE TODAY THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING IN OCTOBER.
SO THAT MEANS THAT WITH THOSE REVISIONS AND WE CAN CONSIDER RECOMMENDING TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL MANA GER'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO ADOPT A CALENDAR FOR 2025.
OKAY. IF YOU COULD JUST STATE THE CHANGES, JUST RECAP THEM SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND THEN I'LL ASK DIRECTOR WAESPI TO MAKE A MOTION.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED CALENDAR FOR 2025.
WITH AS PRESENTED TODAY WITH THE TWO AMENDMENTS, ONE IS TO SHIFT THE SPORTS STANDING COMMITTEE MEETING STARTING TIME FROM 10:30 IN THE MORNING TO 11:00 IN THE MORNING, AND THE SECOND REVISION IS TO IDENTIFY 50% OF THE STUDY SESSIONS AND THE RETREAT TO BE HOSTED OR TO BE CONDUCTED OUT IN A RESPECTIVE WARD
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IN A PARK FACILITY.SO THAT'S WHAT THE CALENDAR WOULD LOOK LIKE.
OKAY. I WILL MOVE THIS AND HOPEFULLY GO TO THE FULL BOARD, BUT AND BUT FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AND ELIZABETH AND ALL OF THE STAFF THAT WORKED ON THIS.
I KNOW THAT I'VE WORKED ON IT INAUGURALLY WITH YOU LAST YEAR AND IT'S SO DIFFICULT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.
IF I CAN ADD ONE THING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CHANGED, I THINK I WAS PROBABLY A PROTAGONIST FOR HAVING A RECESS, AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF A RECESS IN THIS CASE, AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF MOVING IT TO JULY BUT WE WILL NOT HAVE A MEETING FROM JUNE 17TH TO AUGUST 3RD, WHICH, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT, IS 45 DAYS OR 46 DAYS.
I THINK THAT'S EVEN FOR A PERSON LIKE ME WHO LIKES LONG VACATIONS.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY LONG TIME.
I WAS WONDERING IF POSSIBLY WE HAVE A SCHEDULED MEETING ON JULY 1ST.
THAT'S THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
I THINK THAT WOULD BREAK IT UP NOT PERFECTLY EVENLY, BUT IF WE COULD HOLD A BOARD MEETING ON JULY 1ST, I THINK THAT WOULD BRIDGE US NOT SEEING ONE ANOTHER FOR 45 DAYS.
I DON'T HAVE AN OH, I CAN LOOK AT ONE OF THOSE LITTLE CALENDARS.
I JUST WANT TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD BREAK OUT FOR JULY.
YEAH THE ALTERNATIVE YOU COULD HAVE THREE IN JUNE, AND THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE TRY TO TAKE THAT JULY 4TH WEEK OFF.
THAT'S A PRETTY POPULAR WEEK I FOR AT LEAST STAFF TRADITIONALLY, AND SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TRY TO BE AWAY FOR THE WEEK OF JULY 4TH, BUT THERE ARE THREE FRIDAYS IN JUNE.
WAIT A SECOND. NO, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
I WAS HOPING WE COULD DO WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR WHERE WE SQUEEZED IN WHEN WE MOVED UP THE.
WE CHANGED UP THE JULY ONES AND HAD HAD THEM IN THE.
I MEAN, WE COULD DO THE 13TH AND THE 27TH POSSIBLY.
OR IS THAT GOING TO CREATE A WHOLE 'NOTHER RIPPLE EFFECT? IT ONLY SAVES US A WEEK.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT MIGHT NOT BE WORTH IT, BUT YOU DO RAISE A GOOD POINT.
YEAH. LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, I CAN'T.
EVERYTHING HAS A RIPPLE EFFECT HERE AND I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE DO HAVE FOUR TUESDAYS IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, BUT LET ME LET ME TAKE A LOOK IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
IF IT'S NOT, THEN I WILL EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
SO IS THAT YOUR YOUR MOTION? DIRECTOR WAESPI. MY MOTION WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THIS AND MOVE IT FORWARD WITH THE AMENDMENTS.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? NO. OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVEN THOUGH THE FINAL PRODUCT MAY NOT LOOK COMPLICATED, IT IS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED AND VERY HARD AND TEDIOUS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS, AND TRYING TO MANEUVER THROUGH THE SCHEDULING, WHICH IS A LOT HARDER THAN IT LOOKS.
YOU'RE WELCOME. SO NEXT UP, WE
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HAVE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE 38.GOOD AFTERNOON, NEOMA LAVALLE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, ACQUISITION, STEWARDSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT.
I AM HERE TODAY TO REQUEST A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD REGARDING AN AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE 38 FOR THE RULES AND REGULATIONS REGARDING SPECIAL PROTECTION AREAS.
TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THE PARK DISTRICT CURRENTLY MANAGES APPROXIMATELY 25,000 ACRES UNDER SOME SORT OF LEVEL OF PROTECTION AND COULD QUALIFY FOR THIS SPECIAL PROTECTION AREA STATUS.
THESE AREAS INCLUDE THE EAST CONTRA COSTA COUNTY HABITAT CONSERVATION PRESERVE LANDS, VARIOUS CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, DEED RESTRICTIONS, AREAS WITH CULTURAL RESOURCE RESTRICTIONS, AS WELL AS OTHER SENSITIVE RESOURCE AREAS.
THE PARK DISTRICT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF PUBLIC ACCESS AND OTHER USES ON WITHIN THESE SENSITIVE RESOURCE AREAS, AND THESE RESTRICTIONS CAN VARY BY PROPERTY, SOMETIMES QUITE WIDELY.
THIS ORDINANCE 38 AMENDMENT WOULD ENABLE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO DESIGNATE SPECIAL PROTECTION AREAS AS WELL AS PRESCRIBE DESIGNATION OF THESE USE RESTRICTIONS BY POSTING SIGNAGE AND IN OTHER WAYS AS WELL.
SO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS NOT AS FLEXIBLE AS WHAT IS REALLY NEEDED FOR THESE CONSERVATION LANDS.
IT DOES STATE THAT NO PERSON SHALL RIDE OR OPERATE A BICYCLE OR RIDE A HORSE WITHIN A SPECIAL PROTECTION FEATURE, BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS OTHER TYPES OF USE RESTRICTIONS, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO DOGS OR OTHER ANIMALS BEING BROUGHT INTO THE AREA.
SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, WHICH WE WORKED ON QUITE EXTENSIVELY WITH LEGAL AND PUBLIC SAFETY, WOULD REALLY MAKE THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF ORDINANCE 38 A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE AND ABLE TO ADDRESS THE VARIABILITY IN EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES AND THE MECHANISMS THAT ARE PROVIDING THAT EXTRA LEVEL OF CONSERVATION.
RESTRICTIONS. SO IT WOULD ALLOW THE GENERAL MANAGER OR THE DESIGNEE TO DECLARE A SPECIAL PROTECTION AREA TO PRESERVE SENSITIVE NATURAL CULTURAL RESOURCE AREAS.
IT WOULD ALSO REALLY EXPAND UPON WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC ACCESS USE AND THEN ALLOW FOR THE FLEXIBILITY.
DIFFERENT DIFFERENT SPECIAL PROTECTION AREAS HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF RESTRICTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC ACCESS, AND THEN IT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH MORE CLEAR BY POSTING VIA SIGNAGE OR ON THE WEBSITES, OR A COMBINATION OF ALL OF IT.
MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHERE THOSE RESTRICTIONS RESTRICTED AREAS ARE, AND ALLOW OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM TO ENFORCE THOSE RULES AND RESTRICTIONS IF IF NECESSARY.
SO TODAY WE'RE ASKING THAT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD APPROVAL OF THIS RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE 38 FOR SPECIAL PROTECTION FEATURES.
DIRECTOR WAESPI. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE AN EXCELLENT PLAN.
I'M WONDERING WHAT PRECIPITATED THIS? I MEAN, IS THERE A IF THIS IS WE DO AMEND ORDINANCE 38 TO INCLUDE THIS SPECIAL PROTECTION AGENCY AREAS.
IS THERE A PLAN? IS THERE A SPOT? HAVE YOU GOT ONE IN MIND? HAVE YOU GOT A COUPLE IN MIND? YEAH, WELL, WE HAVE LIKE I MENTIONED, ABOUT 25,000 ACRES UNDER SOME SORT OF LEVEL OF USE RESTRICTION.
NOT ALL OF THESE AREAS NEED TO BE AMENDED INTO THE SPECIAL PROTECTION AREAS, BUT WE DO HAVE SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC INTO THEM, AND SO WE HAVE SEEN SOME AMOUNT OF VIOLATION OF THOSE AREAS, EITHER THROUGH TRAIL BUILDING OR JUST USE INTO THEM, AND BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REPORT BACK TO THE RESOURCE AGENCIES ABOUT THESE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS, THEY THEN WANT TO KNOW HOW WE'RE ENFORCING THOSE THOSE AREAS, AND WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A, WELL AN EXPANDED MECHANISM TO REALLY TAKE THOSE AREAS, PUT THEM UNDER
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ORDINANCE 38, AND THEN BE ABLE TO SEND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM OUT, AS WELL AS KIND OF HAVE SPECIALIZED SIGNAGE THAT REALLY SAYS LIKE, THIS IS A SENSITIVE RESOURCE AREA, YOU KNOW, UNDER ORDINANCE 38, YOU KNOW, PLEASE STAY ON DESIGNATED TRAILS.THE CURRENT ORDINANCE JUST WASN'T FLEXIBLE ENOUGH FOR THE DIFFERENT CASES THAT WE WERE CONFRONTING, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WIDE VARIETY OF CONSERVATION LANDS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE PARK DISTRICT.
SO THAT WAS REALLY THE IMPETUS WE WERE SEEING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS AND THEN WE WERE ALSO, YOU KNOW, NEEDING TO REPORT THOSE VIOLATIONS BACK TO THE RESOURCE AGENCIES, AND WE REALLY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO, IN THOSE ANNUAL REPORTS, BE ABLE TO STATE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS MECHANISM THAT WE CAN, UNDER ORDINANCE 38, DESIGNATED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DESIGNATED THIS AREA A SPECIAL PROTECTION AREA, AND THAT ALLOWS US TO ADDRESS IT IN ANY OF THESE TRESPASS ISSUES IN THIS WAY.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE IMPETUS.
THE OTHER THING WAS, IS THAT WE NEED MITIGATION FOR OUR OWN PROJECTS, AND THERE WAS A REQUEST AS WE WERE NEGOTIATING SOME OF OUR OWN CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, THERE WAS A REQUEST ON THE BEHALF OF SOME OF THE RESOURCE AGENCIES TO SEE THIS EXTRA LEVEL OF PROTECTION BEING DESIGNATED ON CONSERVATION EASEMENTS THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING FOR OUR OWN PROJECTS.
SO OF THE 25,000 ACRES, CAN YOU DESIGNATE OR TELL ME WHERE OR WHICH ONES, HOW MUCH OF THIS I MEAN IT ON THE FACE? IT SOUNDS A LITTLE EXCLUSIONARY.
I MEAN, YOU SAY, HEY, LET'S WELCOME TO THE PARKS, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO SAY, YEAH, EXCEPT THESE.
I MEAN, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE 25,000 ACRES DO YOU PERCEIVE WILL BE OF THIS SPECIAL PROTECTION AREA.
WELL, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A FULL CALCULATION YET.
I WOULD SAY ANY OF THOSE AREAS THAT ARE WITHIN KIND OF MITIGATION CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, WHICH ENDS UP BEING ABOUT 10,000 ACRES AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO CONSIDER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WILL BE DOING FOR OPEN, AND THIS IS REALLY FOR THE OPEN PARKLANDS.
I THINK IF YOU KNOW, THERE'S AREAS OF THAT, A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE LAND BANKED, AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PLANNING FOR THOSE LAND BANKED AREAS, WE CAN REALLY SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DESIGNATE ANY OF THOSE AREAS AS SPECIAL PROTECTION.
SO I'M THINKING OF, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY ANY OF THE HCP AREAS.
SO IN SOME CASES WE ARE GETTING THOSE LANDS WITH SORT OF A VERY WELL BAKED RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF PUBLIC ACCESS, AND WE JUST WE WANT A WAY TO PROVIDE ASSURANCE THAT WE CAN ENFORCE THOSE RESTRICTIONS IF NECESSARY.
ARE REALLY OUR HOPE IS TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE PEOPLE ABIDE BY RULES, AND AS WE SEE PROBLEMS ARISE, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD REALLY WANT TO DESIGNATE A SPECIAL PROTECTION AREA.
THERE ARE ALREADY AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED UNDER THE ORDINANCE OVER THE OVER THE YEARS SINCE THIS PART OF THE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED THROUGH LAND USE PLANS AS WELL THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THIS CONSERVATION LANDS DESIGNATION PROCESS.
SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
IT'S JUST ALLOWING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND REALLY INCORPORATING IN THESE MITIGATION LANDS INTO THE INTO THE KIND OF HOW WE CAN USE THAT, THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE FOR SPECIAL PROTECTION AREAS.
YOU MENTIONED THE EXCLUSION OF DOGS AND BICYCLES.
DO YOU EXPECT ANY OPPOSITION FROM THOSE GROUPS.
WE HAVE SPOKEN A LOT WITH OUR, ESPECIALLY THE BIKING COMMUNITY, ABOUT RESTRICTIONS IN THESE CONSERVATION LANDS THAT ARE ALREADY BAKED INTO THE LANDS, REALLY OFTENTIMES BEFORE WE EVER ACCEPT THEM, AND THE BIKING COMMUNITY IN GENERAL HAS BEEN VERY OPEN TO IT.
WE ALSO HAVE NOT HEARD ANY ANYTHING FROM THE YOU KNOW, DOG COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE ALSO HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM AND EXPLAIN KIND OF WHERE THAT IS COMING FROM, AND, YOU KNOW, WHY THOSE RESTRICTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE IN PARTICULAR AREAS.
SO FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT SOUNDS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS SUBSTANTIVELY, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CHANGE ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU STILL COULD MAKE ANY OF THESE AREAS SPECIAL PROTECTION.
IT JUST WOULD BE THIS MAKES IT EASIER TO DO SO.
IS THAT CORRECT? MORE FLEXIBLE, A LITTLE EASIER AND MORE FLEXIBLE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. YEAH.
OKAY. SO KIND OF IMPROVES SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY THERE IN THE ORDINANCE.
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IT'S JUST AMENDING THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT MORE FLEXIBLE.GOT IT, AND T ALSO SOUNDS LIKE IN A LOT OF THESE CASES, YOU'RE AT LEAST THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE ON THE TRAIL AS OPPOSED TO JUST KEEPING THEM OUT OF THE AREA 100%.
SO THEY COULD STILL HAVE ACCESS.
THE OTHER THING I WAS WONDERING ABOUT.
SO UNDER THE CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOW THE OLD OR THE CURRENT RATHER PROCEDURE WORKS BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT IT SAID IN THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE TAKING OUT, SPECIAL PROTECTION AREAS ARE DESIGNATED BY THE BOARD TO PRESERVE CULTURE AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.
SO WOULD IT WOULD IT THEN IN THE IN UNDER THE EXISTING ORDINANCE DOES IT HAVE TO IT'S RECOMMENDED BY THE GENERAL MANAGER AND THEN COMES TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? HOW DOES IT WORK CURRENTLY? I THINK IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE NORMALLY WOULD JUST ADOPT THESE THROUGH LAND USE PLANNING PROCESSES, AND SO THEN THAT'S WHY THE LANGUAGE AND I'M NOT I CAN'T SPEAK NECESSARILY FOR WHY THAT LANGUAGE WAS WRITTEN 20, 30 YEARS AGO, BUT MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT IT WAS IT WAS INITIALLY A MECHANISM THAT WAS COMING THROUGH THE LAND USE PLANNING PROCESS, AND IT WAS AN INTERNAL DESIGNATION BUT AS WE WERE GETTING MORE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF LAND THAT HAS COME FROM THE OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE OF THE LAND USE PLANNING PROCESS, AS DEDICATED LAND THAT HAS COME WITH CONSERVATION INSTRUMENTS ON IT, AND THE WAY THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN FOR AN INTERNAL PROCESS WAS NOT NECESSARILY AS FLEXIBLE AS WHAT WE NEEDED FOR LANDS THAT WERE COMING TO US VIA OTHER MECHANISMS. SO OUTSIDE OF OUR NORMAL PLANNING PROCESS, THESE LANDS.
SO THE BOARD STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO DESIGNATE THESE AREAS THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS OR EVEN THROUGH ACCEPTANCE OF A DEDICATED PROPERTY, BUT WE FELT THE FLEXIBILITY OF ALSO ALLOWING THE GENERAL MANAGER TO DO IT WOULD KIND OF ACCOUNT FOR A LOT OF LIKE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE'RE GETTING A PROPERTY THAT ALREADY HAS A RESTRICTION ON IT. THERE'S NOTHING REALLY TO CHANGE ABOUT THAT RESTRICTION OTHER THAN TO DECIDE TO NOT ACCEPT THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, ONCE ONCE THAT PROPERTY COMES TO US, THEN WE CAN JUST LATER OR IF WE IDENTIFY AN ISSUE, WE CAN AMEND IT INTO ORDINANCE 38 VIA THIS PROCESS.
IF THERE IS NEVER AN ISSUE, WE CAN WE CAN POTENTIALLY KEEP IT OUT OF THIS ORDINANCE 38 PROCESS.
ANYTHING ELSE? DENNIS, YOU'RE GOOD? OKAY. YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? SURE. OKAY.
I WILL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES.
[Informational Items]
OKAY, SO NOW WE HAVE TWO, TWO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. FIRST FEMA PROJECTS UPDATE.BEAR WITH ME WHILE I PULL UP MY PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
THIS FIRST PRESENTATION IS ABOUT FEMA UPDATES, AND I AM PLEASED TO PROVIDE THIS TODAY.
THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL UPDATE.
I MEAN, IT'S THEY'RE SORT OF PART AND PARCEL.
STORM DAMAGE IS THE REASON WE HAVE FEMA PROJECTS.
THEY'RE HANDLED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
THERE'S BEEN TWO LARGE STORM SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON.
FEMA PROJECTS FOR, THE FIRST BEING 2017 STORM DAMAGE.
I TOOK THIS SLIDE FROM A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.
JUST AS CONTEXT, THE IF THESE PROJECTS WERE INITIALLY MANAGED BY FINANCE AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES, AND SO WHEN STAFF HAS DUE TO SUBSEQUENT STAFF CHANGES, THE 2017 FEMA PROJECTS WERE ASSIGNED TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE'RE CURRENTLY PICKING UP THESE 16 OUTSTANDING PROJECTS TO COMPLETE.
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THEY'RE IN VARIOUS STAGES OF FINAL APPROVAL WITH FEMA AND CALOES.THERE SEEMS TO BE SEVERAL SCOPE REVISIONS AND THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED THROUGHOUT.
TO THAT END, BECAUSE THERE ARE THESE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PROJECTS.
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WAS ALSO A PART OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE, RECEIVED A CIVIL ENGINEER TO HELP DELIVER THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'RE PRETTY FULL WITH OUR WORKLOAD, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY RECRUITING THAT POSITION NOW.
ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT IS WOULD BE INCURRED BY THE DISTRICT.
SO I THINK THERE'S STILL SCOPE CHANGES BEING HAPPENING.
OR THEY'RE BEING REVIEWED, AND I THINK THOSE WERE ALL KIND OF SCOPE OF CHANGES THAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO US TAKING THEM OVER, US BEING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION I DON'T THINK--I'M REN BATES--I DON'T THINK I INTRODUCED MYSELF APPROPRIATELY AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS.
I'M CHIEF OF DESIGN CONSTRUCTION.
FOR THE RECORD, I'M HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR FEMA UPDATE.
THIS IS A PROJECT IN LAFAYETTE.
IT'S THIRD STREET NEAR DOWNTOWN LAFAYETTE.
THERE WAS AN INITIAL STORM DAMAGE IN 2017.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS SLIDE AREA.
THERE WAS A CLAIM FOR A FEMA PROJECT.
THEN IN 2022-23, THERE WAS MORE STORM DAMAGE, AND SO BASED ON THAT AND NOT HAVING FIXED THE 2017 DAMAGE AND THEN MAKING A CLAIM ON 2022-23, THERE'S BEEN OVERLAPPING FEMA CLAIMS, SO I THINK THAT'S CAUSED SOME DELAY IN APPROVALS.
THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS THAT WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY PERMITS IN HAND.
WE BECAUSE THIS IS IN LAFAYETTE, THEY DON'T HAVE A BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I'M GOING TO GET INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT ON THIS.
SO WE FIRST WENT TO THE CITY, THEN WE WENT TO THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY WANTS TO SEE APPROVALS FROM THE WATER BOARD.
THE WATER BOARD IS LOOKING AT THIS, NOT NECESSARILY FROM EMERGENCY REPAIR THAT THE DISTRICT IS.
IT'S LOOKING AT IT FROM WATER QUALITY AND NOT NECESSARILY A FEMA PROJECT EITHER.
SO THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING CORRECTLY OR MAKING A FULL IMPROVEMENT, NOT AN IMPROVEMENT, BUT A FIX THAT'S GOING TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE WATERCOURSE THAT'S THERE, AND SO THAT'S PART OF IT.
SO WE HAVE LOTS OF ALTERNATING APPROVALS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
IN TERMS OF FEMA SOMETIMES THE FEMA PROCESS, I BELIEVE, WILL ALLOW QUICKER APPROVALS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL BECAUSE THIS WAS A 2017 PROJECT, WE GOT PUSHBACK FROM REGULATORY AGENCIES AS TO WHY IS THIS AN EMERGENCY NOW? SO WE ENDED UP PERMITTING THIS THROUGH OUR TRAILS, CREEKS AND PONDS OR OUR REGULATORY PERMIT PROCESS.
SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME.
THERE'S JUST TO SAY THERE'S A LOT TO IT.
WHERE WE ARE NOW CURRENTLY IS WE HAVE PERMITS FROM WE HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY.
WE'RE READY TO GO. WE HAVE A JOB ORDER CONTRACTING CONTRACTOR WHO'S GONE OUT AND LOOKED AT THE SITE.
WE'RE FINALIZING PRICING WITH THEM.
WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE WORKING ON THIS IN THIS MONTH.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO START CONSTRUCTION SEPTEMBER 16TH TO GET ROCK INTO THIS AREA SO THAT IT'LL STABILIZE THIS SLOPE AND HOPEFULLY NOT ALLOW ANY MORE DAMAGE THERE. IT WILL NOT PROVIDE WHOLE THE TRAIL ACCESS AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE OF WHERE WE WERE WITH PERMITTING THE STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAKE THE TRAIL THERE AND THE PROXIMITY OF PROPERTY LINES.
SO THAT IS A HIGHLIGHT, I THINK, IN TERMS OF JUST SHARING KIND OF HOW THAT GOES.
I'M GOING TO INVITE KATY UP NOW TO TALK ABOUT SORT OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE 2023 PROJECTS.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. KATY HORNBECK, GRANTS MANAGER.
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WE REPORTED THOSE LAST MAY.HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, AND SO THOSE WERE COMPLETED EITHER BY ROADS AND TRAILS OR OPS.
IT'S YOU KNOW, LANDSLIDE OR MINOR TRAIL REPAIR, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, AND WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 120 REMAINING OF. OF THAT ENTIRE 140 ABOUT BETWEEN 80 AND 90 ARE CONSIDERED SMALL PROJECTS, WHICH MEANS THEY WILL COST LESS THAN 1 MILLION.
THIS IS A DESIGNATION BY FEMA, SO IF IT'S A SMALL PROJECT, IT UNDERGOES A LESS INTENSIVE REVIEW.
SO THAT LEAVES ABOUT 15 CAPITAL PROJECTS OR PROJECTS THAT WILL COST OVER A MILLION.
OUR SORT OF ROUGH ESTIMATE OF THE TOTAL DAMAGES IS APPROXIMATELY 13 MILLION.
WE PROPOSE COST ESTIMATES TO FEMA BASED OFF OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE CURRENT SCOPE OF WORK.
THEY REVIEW THAT, THEY APPROVE IT AND DETERMINE, YES, WE WILL OBLIGATE IT AT THAT AMOUNT OR NO, WE THINK IT'S LESS OR THERE'S SOMETIMES SOME EXCHANGE OF, WELL, LET'S DO SOME FURTHER DELIBERATION, LET'S DO SOME FURTHER COST ESTIMATES, AND THEN THEY MAY INCREASE OR DECREASE THAT AMOUNT, BUT THAT'S ROUGHLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, AND LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DO I WANT TO SAY? SO, PERMANENT WORK.
SO TECHNICALLY, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY ASK FEMA OR CALOES, WHEN CAN WE START REPAIR, THEY WILL SAY, DON'T START UNTIL THE PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND FUNDS HAVE BEEN OBLIGATED, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE DUE TO SAFETY OR PUBLIC ACCESS OR EMERGENCY WORK, WE NEED TO GET IN THERE AND DO THE REPAIR BEFORE APPROVAL.
THE STAFF WILL THESE WILL GET DIVVIED OUT BETWEEN DECO AND MAST DECIDE WHAT WHAT PROJECT IS APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT DIVISION, AND I WILL SAY THAT THE APPROVAL PROCESS TAKES QUITE A BIT OF TIME.
THERE IS A 7 TO 8, NINE STEP REVIEW PROCESS OF WHO IT STARTS WITH AND WHERE IT GOES THROUGHOUT FEMA AND CAL OES, AND IT OFTEN SPENDS THE MOST TIME IN ENVIRONMENTAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION, OR EHP, AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD IT.
THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING TO DETERMINE, DO YOU KNOW, ARE THERE CULTURAL RESOURCES? WHAT'S THE IMPACT? HOW MANY TREES ARE COMING OUT? IS IT THE WHOLE TREE? ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND SO IT SORT OF LIVES THERE FOR ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3 TO 9 MONTHS, IF NOT LONGER, DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. SO MOST OF OUR PROJECTS ARE SITTING THERE RIGHT NOW.
OF, OF THIS 2023, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE A GOOD CHUNK OF OUR 2017 PROJECTS ARE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHERE OUR PROJECT IS GOING TO LIVE FOR A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE GET THEM BACK FOR APPROVAL.
I THINK THOSE WERE MY MAIN POINTS ON 2023, SO I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER TO REN.
SO THE PINOLE SHORES TRAIL, AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT KATY DESCRIBED.
IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S BETWEEN TWO RAILROAD LINES, AND BUT IT IS A DIRECT OR A PUBLIC ACCESS.
IT'S A POINT. IT'S A COMMUNITY TRAVEL ROUTE, SORT OF A PEOPLE COMMUTE ON THIS.
SO IT WAS IMPORTANT WE AGAIN UTILIZED THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTOR.
THIS ACTUALLY I WASN'T ANTICIPATING US GETTING THIS DONE THIS YEAR.
I WAS EXPECTING THAT WE WOULD DO IT NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF THE RAILROAD INTERACTION.
I'M GETTING APPROVALS FROM BOTH, BUT DUE TO THE SUCCESS AND DETERMINATION OF STAFF AND FOLLOWING THROUGH, THIS HAS GOTTEN FIXED, AND WE'VE JUST RECENTLY ACCEPTED THIS, AND SO NOW THIS TRAIL IS WHOLE, AND I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW IF WE HAVE FULL FEMA COVERAGE.
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I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS NEEDED, BUT THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.THANKS. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THIS IS THIS IS GOOD STUFF AND VERY EXCITED TO SEE THAT THE PINOLE SHORES ONE IS FIXED, BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, AS YOU KNOW AND OKAY, SO DIRECTOR WAESPI ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? NO.
I GUESS THAT THESE, THESE PROBLEMS CONTINUE TO OCCUR AND THEN MORE, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, I GUESS, DO DO YOU GUYS CHECK WEATHER PROGNOSTICATORS TO SEE, I MEAN, IS IT THEORETICALLY GOING TO BE A BAD WINTER THIS WINTER? IS EL NIÑO COMING? EL NIÑO, WHATEVER THE DIFFERENCE IS, YOU GUYS WORK ON THAT, AND DO YOU PLAN SOME OF THE PROJECTS? I KNOW THAT CLEANING A CULVERT, I THINK CAN HELP OUT A WHOLE LOT IN A TRAIL FROM FAILING, AND I KNOW THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN TIMES YOU CAN DO IT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN TRADITIONALLY WITH LIKE FIRES THAT HAPPEN, WEATHER TOPOGRAPHY AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THEY SEEM TO OCCUR IN THE SAME SPOTS. A LOT OF TIMES.
SO IS THERE A PLAN FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE? I'M THINKING OF THE WEST SHORE TRAIL ON ANTHONY CHABOT.
THAT SEEMS TO SLIDE A LOT, AND IT'S BASED ON SOME CULVERTS PACKING UP.
I'M WONDERING IF WE IDENTIFY THOSE VULNERABLE SPOTS AND POSSIBLY TRY TO PREVENT CATASTROPHIC THINGS FROM OCCURRING.
I'M THE ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER OF OPERATIONS.
SO THANK YOU, DIRECTOR WAESPI, FOR THAT QUESTION ABOUT PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ON OUR CULVERTS AND SPECIFICALLY THIS PAST YEAR.
ACTUALLY, I WANT TO APPRECIATE OUR STEWARDSHIP TEAM THAT WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE AGENCIES, REGULATORY AGENCIES TO GET US APPROVAL TO DO SOME OF THAT REMOVAL.
WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT NOW THAT WITHIN THE PARK, STAFF CAN GO AHEAD AND DO DEBRIS REMOVAL.
SO THAT'S PART OF THAT PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE APPROVAL FOR BEFORE, AND SO THIS YEAR WE DID GET THAT, AND SO THAT WORK IS BEING ABLE TO BE DONE AT A PARK BY PARK LEVEL, AND THEN ALSO WE DO HAVE A LIST THAT THE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH STEWARDSHIP, THE PARKS, DIFFERENT PARKS AND THEN WITH OUR MAINTENANCE AND SKILLED TRADES, ROADS AND TRAILS, WE HAVE A LIST OF 23 SITES THAT NOW IS THE SEASON.
SO THAT'S ALL PART OF THAT PREVENTATIVE ACTION PLAN OR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED STARTING LAST YEAR AND WAS FINALIZED EARLIER THIS SPRING THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE AGENCIES AS WELL.
I DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SPEAK ABOUT LAKE CHABOT, BUT FOCUSING ON THOSE PLACES.
IN THE CASE OF A TRAIL WASHING OUT OR A SLIDE OCCURRING ON A TRAIL, WE CLOSE THE TRAIL, BUT I MEAN, ARE WE DO WE HAVE TO WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT UNTIL WE GET FEMA APPROVAL AND THEN GO GET THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND DO ALL THIS STUFF? OR CAN WE CUT THE TRAIL, YOU KNOW, CUT A PATH THROUGH THE TRAIL SO THAT PEOPLE CAN STILL ENJOY THE TRAIL? WELL, IF YOU ASK FEMA OR CALOES, THEY'LL SAY, DON'T DO ANY WORK.
IF WE NEED TO OR HAVE TO, FOR WHATEVER THE REASON IS, WE JUST NEED TO DOCUMENT.
SO THEY'RE NOT THEY'LL GIVE US A VERY GRAY ANSWER, SO DON'T DO IT, BUT IF YOU HAVE TO, MAKE SURE YOU DO IT RIGHT AND YOU GO BY THE BOOK SO WE PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT THOSE PRIORITY PROJECTS WILL BE BASED OFF OF THAT, AND THEN WE'LL SUBMIT ALL OF THAT DOCUMENTATION AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY GET REIMBURSED. OKAY.
SO ONCE AGAIN, I'M PLAYING WITH HYPOTHETICALS.
I'M THINKING OF THE TRAIL WASHES OUT.
BY DEFINITION IF IT'S A TRAIL, IT'S AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
SO FOR US TO SAY WE WON'T DEAL WITH THE ENGINEERING OF WHY THE HILLSIDE FELL, BUT WE COULD TAKE A DOZER AND CLEAR THE TRAIL FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND THEN CREATE AN OPEN TRAIL.
HAVE WE EVER DONE THAT AND WOULD FEMA PENALIZE US OR DO ANYTHING?
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IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO GET AROUND NOT DOING ANYTHING.WELL, THERE'S WORK THAT CAN HAPPEN.
UNDER WHAT WE CALL CATEGORY A OR CATEGORY OR WHAT FEMA WOULD CALL CATEGORY A, CATEGORY B.
SO THAT'S EMERGENCY RESPONSE OR DEBRIS REMOVAL.
SO THAT'S HAPPENING. THAT'S WORK THAT'S HAPPENING USUALLY WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH TO TWO MONTHS.
SO THIS PERMANENT REPAIR IS BRINGING THINGS BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL STATE.
SOME OF THOSE LARGER PROJECTS, BUT YEAH, SO WE DID PLENTY OF WORK THAT HAPPENED IN THE FIRST, I THINK IT WAS SIX MONTHS THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE PENALIZED FOR THAT.
WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
GREAT. GOOD. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW, AND THEN ONE MORE, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF DRY CREEK? THE MEYERS ESTATE, DRY CREEK GARDENS.
IS THE PARK OPEN? IS IT FIXED? IS IT? HI AGAIN.
SO, WITH REGARD TO THE DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE AT THE DRY CREEK MEYERS GARDEN, THAT WAS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE 16 PROJECTS THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY SHOWN THAT HAS NOT BEEN WORKED ON YET, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SCOPE AND SCALE.
SO IT'S SORT OF ALIGNED WITH THE OTHER AT LAKE DEL VALLE, WHERE THE MARINA WAS WASHED OUT.
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A MAJOR EFFORT TO DO THAT SIMILAR SITUATION AT THE MEYERS GARDEN.
SO THAT HAS NOT IT'S NOT FIXED YET.
I'M CURIOUS, THOUGH, A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND YOU'VE TALKED TO IT SOME IN TERMS OF WHAT CONSTITUTES AN EMERGENCY, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T REALLY USE THAT MECHANISM THAT OFTEN BECAUSE ONE IS NOT A GUARANTEE WE'LL GET REIMBURSED, AND TWO, I'M ALSO WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM WHEN WE DO HAVE TO FRONT THE MONEY TO FIX A TRAIL LIKE THAT? I MEAN, IN THE SHORT TERM BEFORE IT'S REIMBURSED OR HOPEFULLY REIMBURSED.
I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE TO SUBMIT CERTAIN PAPERWORK TO FEMA TO BASICALLY SAY, YES, WE'VE HAD THESE DAMAGES, WE'RE AN ELIGIBLE AGENCY. WE'RE GOING TO NEED PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, AND SO WITH THAT DOCUMENTATION AND THE COST ESTIMATES AND THE CONTRACTS THAT WE'LL GET FROM DECO, WE CAN PROGRAM SOME FUNDS FOR SOME LIKE FOR THE THIS PROJECT, AND THEN WE PROVIDE ALL OF THAT TO FEMA DOWN THE ROAD FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
RIGHT, AND I WILL JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT, AND YOU'RE CORRECT.
IT'S OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CORRECT ME.
YOU'RE NODDING. THAT WE DID SET ASIDE SOME DOLLARS IN IN FUND BALANCE FOR THESE ONGOING.
YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TREES GOING DOWN BECAUSE OF DROUGHT ISSUES OR FIRE ISSUES, IT'S JUST ALL THE EXTREME WEATHER. SO WE DID WHAT I CALLED KIND OF A DOWN PAYMENT TO SET ASIDE SOME RESERVE DOLLARS FOR THAT AND HOPEFULLY GOING TO GROW THAT OVER TIME.
SO IT'S REALLY YOUR GENERAL FUND, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST DEAL WITH REALITY.
HOW MANY YEARS? SIX, SEVEN YEARS, RIGHT? SEVEN YEARS. SEVEN YEARS.
YEAH. THANK YOU, GENERAL MANAGER LANDRETH YOU ANSWERED MY NEXT QUESTION BEFORE I EVEN ASKED IT.
SO VERY GOOD, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHEN, WHEN WE ARE BUILDING BACK FROM THESE STORMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD BACK IN A WAY THAT CAN BE MORE PREVENTATIVE GOING FORWARD, BUT THE FEMA MONEY HASN'T REALLY ALLOWED US TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST SORT OF REPLACING WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE, WHICH FAILED.
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SO HAVE WE MADE ANY PROGRESS ON ON EITHER LEGISLATIVELY OR SOME OTHER WAY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD BACK BETTER, SO TO SPEAK? SO IS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE THE RIGHT ONES TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING KIND OF WHERE THAT STANDS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.SO THE SO FEMA HAS A HAZARD MITIGATION DIVISION AND SO WE'VE MET WITH THEM.
I HAVE A WEEKLY STANDING MEETING WITH, WITH FEMA, AND SO THAT DIVISION HAS COME IN TO DISCUSS HOW THAT WORKS, AND SO WHAT YOU CAN DO, ONE OPTION IS THAT WHEN WE SUBMIT, WHEN WE SUBMIT THE PROPOSED SCOPES OF WORK AND THE ASSOCIATED COST ESTIMATES FOR THOSE, WE CAN INCLUDE BASICALLY LIKE A BUDGET LINE FOR A HAZARD MITIGATION COST.
SO THEY PAY UP TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TOTAL PROJECT COST.
SO THAT'S ONE PATH WE CAN FOLLOW IS IF WE KNOW AT THE START THAT WE NEED TO REPAIR BEYOND ITS ORIGINAL STATE, WE CAN PROPOSE THAT AT THE BEGINNING. THE OTHER OPTION IS ESPECIALLY JUST GIVEN THE SHEER NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND HOW MUCH TIME HAS PASSED, WE CAN, AFTER OUR PROJECTS HAVE BEEN OBLIGATED.
ONCE WE ENGAGE WITH CONSULTANTS AND DECO AND WHOEVER ELSE MAY DETERMINE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY DON'T WANT TO RETURN TO THE ORIGINAL STATE OF REPAIR.
WE WANT TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT.
THEN WE CAN PROPOSE THAT TO FEMA AND THEN GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AGAIN.
OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THERE WAS A SOMEONE IN THE ZOOM ROOM THAT WANTED TO COMMENT, BUT IT WAS ON ORDINANCE 38.
CAN WE GO BACK AND GET THAT PUBLIC COMMENT? I DID NOT SEE HIS HAND.
OH, OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO LET HIM IN.
OKAY, BUT WE'RE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC.
OH, YEAH. I'M SORRY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU BOTH.
KELLY, I'M GOING TO PROMOTE YOU TO PANELIST.
AS YOU SAID IN YOUR EMAIL, I'M GOING TO TURN OFF MY VIDEO.
WHEN I COME BACK ON, YOU'LL HAVE 30S.
BUREAUCRACIES CAN SOMETIMES OPERATE IN WAYS THAT PRIORITIZE THEIR OWN INTERESTS OVER THE PUBLIC.
THEY WIELD ENORMOUS POWER TO BLOCK ACCESS TO SENSITIVE AREAS.
THE PARK DISTRICT CAN BLOCK ACCESS ANYWHERE IT WANTS AS OF RIGHT NOW.
THE PARK DISTRICT DID SAYING NO ACCESS THROUGH TWO GATES.
YOU GOT A PUBLIC ROAD THAT LEADS RIGHT STRAIGHT TO A PUBLIC PARK, AND YOU PUT UP SIGNS SAYING NO ACCESS HERE, AND CLEARLY, PEOPLE COULD WALK UP THAT ROAD AND ENJOY A NICE WALK IN THE PARK, BUT YOU HAVE PUT UP SIGNS FOR, YOU KNOW, YOUR OWN POLITICAL REASONS.
THE SIGNS THAT YOU CAN POST RIGHT NOW WITH 3-$400 FINES AND CRIMINAL MISDEMEANORS FOR TRESPASSING AND CURFEW VIOLATIONS, AS COMPARED TO JUST $50 FOR PARKING FINES.
NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, TAKE A LOOK AT SECTION 301.1 OF ORDINANCE 38, WHICH STATES THAT, QUOTE, ANY PERSON WHO VIOLATES ANY POSTED SPECIAL CONDITIONS OF USE ESTABLISHED BY THE GENERAL MANAGER OR DESIGNEE SHALL BE GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR.
END QUOTE. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS PRETTY POWERFUL TO ME.
NOW, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE PARK DISTRICT APPEARS TO BE CREATING NEW REGULATIONS TO ENHANCE ITS POLITICAL POSTURE, ITS IMAGE FOR OUTSIDE AGENCIES, AND TO SERVICE ITS OWN INTERNAL ACCOUNTING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE NOW HAVE 20% OF OUR 125,000 ACRES ARE GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, ELIGIBLE FOR SPECIAL PROTECTION.
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THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOUR BUREAUCRACY IS DISCONNECTED FROM THE PUBLIC THAT YOU OSTENSIBLY SERVE.YOU'VE GOT AN INSULAR CULTURE THAT'S FOCUSED ON INTERNAL DYNAMICS.
YOU PRIORITIZE THE INTERESTS OF PARK BUREAUCRATS OVER PARK VISITORS.
YOU KNOW, YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL SELF-INTEREST APPEARS TO BE SUPERSEDING THE SERVING THE PUBLIC GOOD, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT EFFECTIVE OVERSIGHT AND STREAMLINING EFFORTS ARE NEEDED TO KEEP THE PARK DISTRICT ALIGNED WITH ITS INTENDED PURPOSE.
OKAY, SO I THINK WE HAVE NEXT UP, THE CONTRA LOMA SWIM LAGOON UPDATE.
YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD COMMITTEE.
SO THE CONTRA LOMA SWIM LAGOON IS ONE OF THREE SWIM LAGOONS THAT THE PARK DISTRICT OPERATES.
IT WAS CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE CONTRA LOMA WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, COMPLETED BY THE CONTRA COSTA WATER DISTRICT TO REPLACE THE LAKE SWIMMING THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAKE RESERVOIR IN THE 1960S.
SO THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF CONTRA LOMA.
HERE'S THE LAGOON, AND THIS IS THE SWIM EDGE THAT PROVIDES THAT BEACH LIKE FEATURE FOR.
SO AS I SAID, IT WAS BUILT IN 2003.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE CONTRA COSTA.
WATER DISTRICT DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT SWIMMING IN ITS RESERVOIR ANYMORE, AND SO THEY BUILT THIS.
WHAT THAT ENTAILS IS TO ACTUALLY WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS JUST TO.
SHOW SOME CONTEXT IS HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE LAGOON.
WHAT THESE RED SQUARES SHOW ARE THE OUTLINE.
OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ROBERTS POOL THAT WE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED.
SO THIS GIVES YOU LIKE AN IDEA OF THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE AND THE JUST THE GENERAL INCREASE OF DIMENSIONS THAT THIS SWIM FACILITY HAS OVER A STANDARD POOL.
IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN, AND IT HAS RESULTED IN WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY.
IN ADDITION TO THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE OR SHOWING OF HOW MUCH IT IS BECAUSE OF ITS SQUARE FOOTAGE, TYPICALLY THERE AREN'T A LOT OF EXPANSION JOINTS OR SQUARE JOINTS IN THE BOTTOM OF POOLS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE AN EXPANSION JOINT OR SCORE JOINT IS SOMETHING IN CONCRETE WHICH ALLOWS SOME FLEX SO THAT THE CONCRETE DOESN'T CRACK.
SO I THINK THE SURFACE AREA OF IT IS OVER 30,000FT², AND SO IT'S A MASSIVE POOL THAT THEN ACCORDINGLY SOMETIME HAS ITS OWN REGULATIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN CONTRA COSTA COUNTY AS WELL IS THAT SOMETIMES THE LAGOON FEATURE HAS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, BUT THIS IS A CHLORINATED SWIM FACILITY, AND SO IT IS SUBJECT TO THE SAME REQUIREMENTS AS A POOL.
SO BACK TO THE MAINTENANCE IN TERMS OF SORRY I'LL STAY HERE AND WHEN THE DISTRICT ENTERED INTO THIS, THERE WAS MAINTENANCE THAT WAS GOING TO BE REQUIRED AND THAT IS THE WATERPROOFING.
SO THAT MEANS THAT BIG HUGE SHELL HAS TO BE WATERPROOFED PRETTY REGULARLY.
THE DISTRICT HAS TAKEN THAT ON SINCE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY IN 2003.
SO THE DISTRICT HAS DONE THAT IN 2008 AND 2015.
THOSE TWO TIMES THAT THE DISTRICT DID THAT WE USED A PROJECT CALLED THOROSEAL.
THAT WAS THE WATERPROOFING SUBSEQUENT TO THAT.
SUBSEQUENT TO THOSE APPLICATIONS, THOROEAL'S MANUFACTURER CAME OUT AND SAID THAT THIS MATERIAL IS NO LONGER SUITABLE FOR CHLORINATED WATER.
SO THAT TOOK AWAY HOW WE'D BEEN MAINTAINING AND MANAGING THAT.
SO AND THE SAND HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE.
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IT'S A GREAT RECREATIONAL AMENITY, BUT IT DOES CAUSE PROBLEMS. IT CLOGS UP THE DRAINS.I MEAN, IF YOU IMAGINE THERE'S WATERPROOFING, SO IT'S PAINT AND THEN YOU PUT SAND ON IT AND KIDS RUNNING AROUND ON THE SAND, IT'S BASICALLY LIKE YOU HAVE SAND ON TOP OF THIS PAINT STRUCTURE THAT'S JUST GOING TO GRIND IT AND WRAP IT AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, WEAR IT DOWN INCREASINGLY FAST.
I'M JUMPING AROUND A LITTLE BIT. I'M TRYING TO GIVE CONTEXT AND SOME HISTORY AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALL INFORMATIVE AS TO WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE NEED TO HEAD IN TERMS OF THE WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THIS FACILITY.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE PARK DISTRICT.
SO THAT JUST BEAR THAT IN MIND THAT IT WAS BUILT BY CCWD.
THEY'RE TURNING IT OVER TO CCWD, BUT WE OPERATE IT AND MAINTAIN IT.
IN 2019, WE ENGAGED WITH CONSULTANTS TO HELP ASSESS, BASED ON OPERATIONS REQUEST, WHAT WE COULD DO TO REMOVE THE SAND HOW WHAT THAT WOULD FUNCTIONALLY REQUIRE.
BECAUSE LET ME JUMP TO THIS SLIDE.
IF WE GO IF YOU SEE HERE SO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE SAND STAY WHERE IT IS.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY THE LIMITS OF THE SAND HERE IN PLAN VIEW.
YOU IF WE DID NOT HAVE THERE'S A LITTLE WEIR BUILT IN.
SO IF YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, HERE'S THE BOTTOM OF THE LAGOON SHELL, AND SO IT COMES DOWN AND THEN HAS A LIP THAT THEORETICALLY WOULD HOLD THIS SAND IN, AND SO THAT THE SAND STAYS AT THAT EDGE, CREATES THIS SORT OF ZERO ENTRY EXPERIENCE, BEACH LIKE EXPERIENCE.
THE SAND TENDS TO MIGRATE, ESPECIALLY WITH KIDS AND EVERYTHING.
AFTER THAT, WHEN A SEASON OPENS TO GO OUT INTO HERE AND IT BECOMES A MAINTENANCE ISSUE FOR STAFF TO SWEEP IT OFF THE DECKING AROUND IN BACK INTO IT AND THEN ALSO SWEEPING IT BACK INTO THIS WEIR STRUCTURE.
WE SOLICITED RFP FOR A DESIGNER TO COME HELP AND LOOK AT THIS IN 2020.
THEY COMPLETED THIS ASSESSMENT IS JUST A REPORT THAT SUGGESTED SORT OF HOW WE WOULD BASICALLY PUT IN POTENTIALLY A CONCRETE SLAB TO FILL THAT IN SO THAT WE COULD MAINTAIN ZERO ENTRY, AND THE RESULTS OF THAT.
THEY ALSO MADE RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT WATERPROOFING WE COULD USE, ONE BEING THE MIRATECH.
THE REPORT WAS COMPLETED IN 2020.
THE LAGOON WAS CLOSED BECAUSE THE OF SAFETY CONCERNS.
SO THE EXISTING WATERPROOFING WAS COMING UP.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THERE WASN'T A LOT OF CONTRAST FOR THE LIFEGUARDS TO LOOK AT THAT.
SO THE POOL LAGOON WAS CLOSED.
WE HAVE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING.
WE JUST GOT THIS REPORT THAT MADE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A WATERPROOFING IN 2020.
IT'S A MULTI MEMBRANE LAYER THAT KIND OF IS SUPPOSEDLY DESIGNED TO BRIDGE SOME OF THESE GAPS.
IT LASTED FOR A SEASON AND IT DID NOT.
IT WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL, AND SO THE BECAUSE OF THAT SAME CONDITION, THE LAGOON WAS OPEN FOR 2021 I THINK WAS IT 2021 SEASON, AND THEN IT SHUT DOWN AGAIN BECAUSE AGAIN THE WATERPROOFING CAME UP.
WE LOOKED INTO IT. WE LOOKED AT THE APPLICATION.
IT WAS ALL APPLIED APPROPRIATELY.
I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT MANY REASONS AS TO WHY THE FAILURE WAS.
THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WAS TOTALLY DEFINITIVE IN REGARDS TO THAT, AND SO BASED ON THAT AND KNOWING THAT WE'D SPENT ABOUT HALF $1 MILLION TO PUT IN A WATERPROOFING THAT DIDN'T LAST OR IT LASTED FOR ONE SEASON, IT BECAME TIMEOUT, LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THESE BIGGER, LARGER FIXES, BECAUSE HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT PREVIOUSLY ISN'T WORKING.
WE HAVE OPERATIONALLY A REQUEST TO SORT OF CHANGE THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
ADDITIONALLY, IN TERMS OF JUST BACKGROUND AND THINK, IN 2014 OR 2015, WE HIRED THE DISTRICT, HIRED UTILITY LOCATOR TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THIS, AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET INTO THE DRAIN OF THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURE OF THE LAGOON BECAUSE IT WAS FILLED WITH SAND, AND SO IT'S JUST INDICATIVE OF, AND THEN WHEN THE SAND GETS IN THERE, IT GRATES ON THE FILTRATION SYSTEM AND SO IT AGAIN, IT'S A MAINTENANCE PROBLEM.
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LEAKS, AND SO THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT CONSTANT LEAKING OUT OF THIS STRUCTURE INTO THE WATER AND THE INTEGRITY OF THIS WALL.I GUESS TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, SOME OF OUR CODE ISSUES ARE AROUND ADA AND OTHER ISSUES REGARDING CLARITY, THE CLARITY AND QUALITY OF THE WATER.
SO CODE WISE, THESE ARE COMPLIANCE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN NOTED AS THE ASSESSMENT.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S NOT OKAY FOR US TO OPERATE THAT FACILITY.
THESE ARE HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
I WOULD POSIT THAT WHEN WE GO IN AND JUST PAINT AND WATERPROOF, IT'S NOT A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT, AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES AS WE GET INTO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE FOOTING OR THE STRUCTURE OF THIS POOL, THAT'S WHEN THE AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION, IN THIS CASE, CONTRA COSTA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, WOULD THEN LOOK AT SOME OF THESE CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES AND HAS THE DISCRETION TO THEN MANDATE THAT WE, AS THE PARK DISTRICT, IMPROVE THESE FACILITIES UP TO CURRENT CODE. SO THE FACILITY AS IT IS NOW IS FINE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A GRANDFATHERED IN SITUATION, BUT IF WE DO START TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS WHERE WE TAKE OUT THE SAND CHANGE SOME OF THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO MAKE ALL OF THESE CODE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO AGAIN, BASED ON WHERE WE WERE LEARNING FROM OUR EXPERIENCES, WE HIRED AN AQUATIC DESIGN GROUP THAT DID THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT STUDY TO COME THROUGH AND TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT THIS AND SORT OF COME UP WITH OPTIONS AS TO WHAT WE COULD DO TO REMEDY THIS AND MAKE THE FACILITY MUCH MORE FUNCTIONAL, UP TO CODE.
WE ALSO TALKED WITH THE OPERATIONS FOLKS TO FIND OUT CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE SITE OPERATES CURRENTLY, AND SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO IN LEARNING ABOUT THAT, THERE'S ONE RESTROOM FACILITY AT CONTRA LOMA THAT'S FLUSHABLE.
IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE GATE FOR THE LAGOON.
SO WHEN PEOPLE NEED TO GO OUT TO USE THE RESTROOM, IT'S HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT.
SO THESE ARE JUST ASIDE FROM THE SAND.
THESE ARE JUST OPERATIONAL SITE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN RAISED BY OPERATIONS.
IT'S TOO LATE, BUT WE'RE HERE NOW.
SO SOME OF THOSE SLOPES OUT THERE ARE CLOSE TO 5%.
SO IT LENGTHENS SOME OF THE PATHS OF TRAVEL.
IT PROVIDES SOME SHADE STRUCTURES.
IT CHANGES THIS AROUND SUCH THAT WHEN YOU ENTER INTO THE KIOSK, THE RESTROOMS ARE AVAILABLE INSIDE OF THE AREA SO THAT OPERATIONALLY, WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN, THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT.
THINKING ABOUT THAT FURTHER IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT PRECLUDED SOMEONE WANTS TO USE A FLUSH RESTROOM FACILITY, THAT THERE ARE ACCESS POINTS OUTSIDE, AND SO IN DEVELOPING IT, THE EXISTING RESTROOMS IN THIS OPTION, WHICH IS A LESS EXPENSIVE OPTION PROVIDES THE ACCESS BOTH FROM EXTERNAL POINTS AND INTERNALLY INSIDE THE SWIM LAGOON FACILITY.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE NOTICED IS THERE'S NOT SUFFICIENT SHOWER FIXTURES.
SO IN TERMS OF TRYING TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE RESTROOM SPACE, BUT ALSO SWIM OR SHOWER FIXTURES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN RINSE OFF, THESE ARE PROPOSED TO BE AROUND OUT ON THE DECK.
THERE'S A SIMILAR ONE AT ROBERT'S POOL, WHICH WE'VE DONE.
THOSE NUMBERS OF FIXTURES ARE ARE A NUMBER THAT'S BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE POOL ITSELF.
SO IN THIS CASE IT'S A BIG POOL.
WE NEED TO HAVE LOTS OF SHOWERS AND SWIM FACILITIES OR SWIM.
EXCUSE ME. SHOWER FACILITIES HERE.
SO AGAIN, THIS THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE THESE PROPOSALS WILL DO IS THAT THIS PUMP FEATURE WHICH LEAKS CONTINUOUSLY AND THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM FOR OPERATIONS, AND JUST FROM AN ESTHETIC POINT OF VIEW IS THAT THIS IS THE FEATURE, AND YOU LOOK OUT AND HERE'S THE RESERVOIR, THERE'S THIS BIG GRATE THAT I THINK I HAVE A PICTURE OF IT MAYBE HERE.
SO THIS IS RUNNING AND IT'S OBSTRUCT YOUR VIEW, AND HERE IT IS HERE.
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WHAT PART OF THE PROPOSAL IS TO RELOCATE THAT SO THAT IT IS NO LONGER IN THE VIEW SHED OF THE LAGOON, MAKING THE FACILITY A MUCH NICER, USABLE FACILITY, BUT ALSO MOVING IT OVER TO HERE SO THAT IT'S CLOSER TO THE CHEMICAL STORAGE AND EVERYTHING.SO THIS IS ONE OPTION THAT KEEPS LIKE I SAID, IT KEEPS THE EXISTING RESTROOM FOOTPRINT.
IT ADDRESSES INGRESS AND ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES.
HERE'S CONCEPT B, IT KIND OF DOES A LITTLE MORE.
IT HAS A MORE SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT IT TAKES OUT THE EXISTING RESTROOM, BUILDING STRUCTURES THAT ARE HERE AND CREATES TWO NEW ONES THAT ARE AND INCREASE THE PLAZA SO THAT THE STAGING OR THE QUEUING OF THIS IS KIND OF LESS INSIDE HERE.
IT PROVIDES BASICALLY THE SAME RESTROOM ACCESS OUTSIDE OF THE FENCED IN FACILITY.
IT HAS A LITTLE MORE LANDSCAPE SITE FEATURES WHERE THESE WOULD BE TERRORISTS TO PROVIDE MORE AREAS.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE INVOLVED IN TERMS OF CHANGING THE SITE CONDITIONS AROUND.
THEY WILL INCREASE AND CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF STACKING FOR FOLKS AS THEY QUEUE UP AND PROVIDE A LOOP AROUND, BECAUSE FOLKS RIGHT NOW PASS THROUGH HERE, IT'S REALLY TIGHT TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE.
IF WE FENCE THIS OFF, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE ACCESS AROUND TO THIS FURTHER SIDE OF THE PARK.
SO THIS IS THE SAME, EXCEPT THAT, LIKE I SAID, IT ADDS MORE SHADE STRUCTURES.
IT CHANGES THE KIOSK KIOSK ENTRY SPACE, AND IT ADDS SOME MORE USER AMENITIES AS PART OF THE TERRACE SEATING FOR THIS HOLD YOUR HATS.
KNOWING THAT THE MIRACOTE WATERPROOFING WASN'T VERY SUCCESSFUL, AND ONE IS A LINER WHERE THEY WOULD GO IN AND THEY WOULD PUT A LINER IN AND THEN PUT A CONCRETE SLAB OVER THAT.
THAT SLAB WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE WATERPROOF BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A LINER UNDERNEATH IT.
AS YOU CAN EXPECT, THAT'S A LINER, AND THEN ANOTHER SLAB.
ANOTHER ONE IS JUST A VINYL MEMBRANE WHICH IS JUST LAID ON IT, AND IT'S BASICALLY JUST A BIG LINER THAT WOULD BE PUT AT THE BOTTOM OF IT, AND SO IT WOULD ACT AS MORE OF A YEAH, IT WOULD JUST BE A LINER.
SO THE LIFESPAN OF THESE IS THE LINER WITH THE CONCRETE SLAB IS ESTIMATED TO BE 20 TO 30 YEARS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REPAINT THE CONCRETE.
IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE WATERPROOFED.
SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THAT NECESSARILY, BUT WE'D HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF TEXTURING FOR SLIP RESISTANCE AND OR JUST CONSISTENCY FOR THE CONTRAST, FOR VISIBILITY, FOR LIFEGUARDING, AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRINTED OR PAINTED, AND THEN THIS VINYL MEMBRANE IS SUPPOSEDLY LASTS 15 TO 20 YEARS, BUT AGAIN IT'S JUST A BIG VINYL SHEET, AND SO THERE'S POTENTIAL THERE THAT IT COULD WEAR.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO WATERPROOFING OPTIONS AT THIS POINT.
SO HERE IS CONCEPT A AGAIN HAS THE HERE'S THE PUNCHLINE IN TERMS OF AND AGAIN, THIS IS FULL BUILD OUT OF SORT OF THE OPTIONS.
THIS IS A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE BECAUSE THESE ARE CONCEPT PLANS.
SO WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THAT FOR THE PLASTER FINISH WE WOULD HAVE IT WOULD COST ABOUT $10 MILLION TO MAKE ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN FOR THE VINYL IT WOULD BE 11 MILLION AND THEN.
FORGIVE ME. I'M MISREADING THIS.
SO FOR THE PLASTER, IF WE JUST, AND THEN LEFT IT IS IS TEN, 13 FOR THE CONCEPT B WHICH MOVES THE RESTROOMS. IF WE DO THE VINYL MEMBRANE, IT'S 11 AND 14 TO DO ONE OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SORT OF FULL BUILD OUT OF WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO.
THERE'S OPTIONS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND THIS IS THE NEXT POINT IS IT'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FULL BUILD OUT WOULD BE, AND THEN WE CAN START TO RATCHET BACK OR DETERMINE WHAT IT IS WE NEED TO FIX MOST, AND WE'LL WORK WITH OPERATIONS IN TERMS OF THAT.
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LIKE I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SWIM FACILITY, AND WE WANT TO GET THIS BACK ONLINE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE A DECISION THAT'S COST EFFECTIVE AND PROVIDES THIS AMENITY SO THAT WE CAN LEAVE IT OPEN FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME THAN HOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST.SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS.
I'M NOT SURE WE WERE HOPING TO MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE FULL BOARD.
THIS IS INFORMATIONAL AT THIS POINT.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WHY HAS IT BEEN CLOSED SO LONG? THESE ARE THE PROPOSALS THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF BASICALLY CODE COMPLIANCE, MAKING IT WHOLE, LISTENING TO OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND THE FACILITY, AND SO WE AS STAFF ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DIRECTION TO TAKE.
I WILL SAY THAT THERE ISN'T FUNDING TO ACCOMMODATE EITHER OF THESE PLANS AT THIS POINT.
IT'S PART OF OUR CPP, CAPITAL PROJECT PRIORITIES AND POLICY.
THE PROJECT DOES HAVE SOME FUNDING WHERE WE COULD DEVELOP SOME MORE DESIGN.
I WOULD SAY I'M RELUCTANT TO DEVELOP DESIGN AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION AND SORT OF DECIDE WHAT THE DISTRICT WANTS TO DO WITH THIS FACILITY, BEARING IN MIND THAT IT IS GOING TO BE COSTLY, THAT WE DON'T OWN IT, BUT OR AND IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT FACILITY FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, FOR THE EAST COUNTY, FOR SWIM FACILITIES, AND WE ALSO HAVE LEARNED FROM ROBERTS POOL THAT SWIM FACILITIES ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING THESE FACILITIES TO CONSTITUENTS SO THEY CAN LEARN HOW TO SWIM.
THAT WAS TOO MUCH. THAT'S A LOT GOING ON IN MY HEAD TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
SO I'LL HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
THE GM LOOKED LIKE SHE HAS A COMMENT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE POTENTIAL FIXES OF 13-$14 MILLION.
PROBABLY I WANT TO SAY IT PROBABLY WAS OUR GUESS IT WAS GOING TO BE PRETTY HIGH.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION REALLY IS TO KIND OF, AS REN SAID, WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO CONTINUE TO THROW KIND OF THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AFTER SOMETHING OF PATCHING AND REPAIRING SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT ACTUALLY EVEN RESULT IN ULTIMATELY THE SWIM FACILITY THAT WE WANT FOR THE LONG HAUL, KNOWING THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY TO HAVE A FACILITY IN EAST COUNTY.
SO REALLY NEEDING TO GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE INTERNALLY IN MY MIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT THAT MAY BE WEIGHING THE COST BENEFIT OF A NEW FACILITY VERSUS PUTTING, YOU KNOW, 14 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS AFTER SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT ACTUALLY EVEN RESULT IN A LONG TERM NEEDS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT I THINK YOU WERE SAYING THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY EXPLICIT.
THANK YOU, AND AND, YOU KNOW, THERE IS PART OF THE DISTRICT PLAN WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL SWIM FACILITIES IN THE TWO COUNTY REGIONS, NOT JUST OURS, BUT ALL ALL PUBLIC SWIM FACILITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND LOOKING AT WHERE THE POPULATION CENTERS ARE AND REALLY PUTTING AN EQUITY LENS ACROSS THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THESE, THESE IN THE PLACES THAT ARE NEEDED AGAIN, AS PUBLIC SWIM FACILITIES AND KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE SAME EXPERIENCE AS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO CROWN OR GOING TO ROBERTS, RIGHT? SO REALLY GETTING SOME COMMUNITY INPUT THROUGH THROUGH THAT PROCESS, OUR DISTRICT PLAN PROCESS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK, AS I THINK YOU JUST SAID AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IS IT WORTH FIXING VERSUS DOING SOMETHING NEW? SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
THANKS, REN, FOR DOING ALL THIS.
SO YOU CONFUSED ME, DIRECTOR OR GENERAL MANAGER.
SO 14 MILLION IS A FIX, NOT A REPLACE.
I MEAN, THE SHELL WOULD STAY WHERE IT IS.
I MEAN, THE PROJECT'S THERE, SO WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO THEN REBUILD SORT OF WHAT IS AROUND IT.
OKAY. WELL, ONCE AGAIN, THANKS FOR DOING ALL THIS WORK BECAUSE PERSONALLY THINK IT IS A VALUE.
IT'S WHAT WE DO IN THE PARK DISTRICT.
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I MEAN, SWIMMING IN A POOL VERSUS WHAT WE OFFER.WITH THAT IN MIND, AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO MY STRING OF ASKING INCREDIBLY WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF QUESTION WILL BE, BUT HAS ANYTHING CHANGED? I'M GRASPING HERE.
DON'T LAUGH. HAS ANYTHING CHANGED IN WATER QUALITY ISSUES OTHER THAN THEY'RE MORE STRINGENT? THAT WOULD SUGGEST TO THE CONTRA COSTA WATER DISTRICT THAT WE COULD BLOW OUT THAT RETAINING WALL AND HAVE THAT LITTLE LAGOON BE PART OF THEIR I MEAN, THEY TREAT THEIR DARN WATER.
HAS ANYTHING GOTTEN BETTER? ARE THEY USING REVERSE OSMOSIS? ARE THEY FILTERING IT THROUGH SAND LIKE THEY USED TO, MAYBE 20 YEARS AGO? IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE WATER QUALITY OR WATER DELIVERY SYSTEMS AROUND HERE THAT SUGGEST WE CAN HAVE A LAKE FULL OF CHLORINE, NOT CHLORINE, BUT WHAT? HUMAN PERSPIRATION AND WHATEVER THEY PERCEIVE 21 YEARS AGO AS BAD.
DO THEY HAVE TECHNOLOGY NOW, LIKE REVERSE OSMOSIS OR THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN THEY TREAT YOUR DRINKING WATER? DIRECTOR WAESPI, LISA GOORJIAN, ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER OF OPERATIONS.
I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT, BUT I AM GOING TO ZOOM OUT AND SAY THAT THE LAKES THAT WE OPERATE FOR SWIMMING ARE INCREASINGLY CLOSED A LOT OF THE TIMES BECAUSE OF WATER QUALITY ISSUES.
WE DID. JOE SULLIVAN GAVE A PRESENTATION AT THE NATURAL CULTURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE ABOUT THAT, AND SO THIS IS A LAGOON, AND SO IT HAS ITS OWN CHALLENGES.
IT'S IT IS REGULATED DIFFERENTLY IN CONTRA COSTA COUNTY THAN THE TWO SWIM LAGOONS THAT WE OPERATE IN ALAMEDA COUNTY, AND THAT IS A BIG FACTOR IN THIS, AS REN WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, BUT I DID WANT TO I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW WHAT CONTRA COSTA WATER DISTRICT, HOW IF THEY WOULD EVEN ALLOW SWIMMING IN THIS RESERVOIR BUT I WOULD POINT OUT IT IS A ARTIFICIAL, IT WOULD BE AN ARTIFICIAL LAKE SITUATION, AND WE JUST KNOW INCREASINGLY IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO MAINTAIN SWIMMING IN LAKE CONDITIONS.
SO I'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM THOUGH.
THAT WATER IS MOVING ALL THE TIME OUT THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGES THE CHEMISTRY AT ALL, BUT WHO KNOWS? I DON'T, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR, BUT FROM A JUST A STRUCTURE POINT OF VIEW AND ELEVATIONS.
I KNOW I'M GRASPING AT STRAWS HERE.
MY ONLY COMMENT IS I THINK IT'S A VALUE AND I AGREE.
I COULD SEE THAT BEING A SIMILAR PROBLEM.
WELL, I HAD A FEW SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, SO I UNDERSTAND BETTER.
SO FIRST OF ALL SO WHEN IT WAS OPERATIONAL, THIS IS IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS WAS AN AREA WHERE WE DID SWIM INSTRUCTION, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE DOING SWIM INSTRUCTION WITH PARTNERSHIPS WITH PITTSBURGH AND SO ON IS IT, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS SOME INSTRUCTION THERE.
I JUST THINK IT PROVIDED A FACILITY AND WE HAD LIFEGUARDS THAT WERE THERE.
SO I THINK IT PROVIDES THAT FUNCTIONALITY.
OH, OKAY. OKAY, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S A HUGE FACILITY.
OH YEAH. IT'S A VERY POPULAR FACILITY I THINK IT.
I CAN'T REMEMBER 60 TO 100,000 PEOPLE ANNUALLY.
SO IT'S PACKED IN TERMS OF TALKING TO STAFF IS THAT AND THAT'S WHAT PART OF IT WAS, IS THAT AS YOU GO IN, IT'S HARD TO MANAGE THE FOLKS COMING IN AND OUT AND THE RESTROOMS OUTSIDE OF THAT, AND SO PART OF THE ISSUE IS IT'S SO BUSY AND SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO GET IN THAT IT'S HARD TO KEEP TRACK, AND SO WE WANT TO ENCLOSE IT SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN THEY CAN USE THE RESTROOM, USE THE FACILITY, AND SO THAT'S ADDING TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT YES, IT'S A VERY POPULAR FACILITY AND THERE ARE MANY VISITORS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
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INSIDE OR OUTSIDE.SO CAN PEOPLE JUST SLIP RIGHT THROUGH THAT WAY? NO NO, NO. SO IT WOULD BE THERE WOULD BE A WALL.
SO IT WOULD BE A BATHROOM OR A FACILITY THAT HAD AN INTERNAL WALL, BUT TWO DOORS.
SO ONE WOULD BE SORT OF THE SWIM LAGOON FACILITY, AND THE OTHER WOULD BE TO FACILITATE THE PARK, AND THERE WOULD BE THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE AN ACCESS DOOR FOR MAINTENANCE TO SORT OF GET IN BETWEEN AND TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE BOTH, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A WAY TO SNEAK THROUGH.
YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO. RIGHT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT JUST CHECKING.
IS THERE ALSO? IS THERE ALSO LIKE A BEACH THERE CURRENTLY WITH SAND OR WHAT'S ON THE WHAT'S OUTSIDE THE WATER? SO IT'S A POOL DECKING, AND I THINK THE SAND IS INTENDED TO BE JUST AT THE WATER'S EDGE, BUT FROM WHAT I HEAR IS THAT IT GETS KIND OF EVERYWHERE, ESPECIALLY WITH PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT, AND SO I'VE HEARD THAT STAFF HAS TO WHEN THE SWIMMING IS OVER, THEY SPEND HOURS SWEEPING IT BACK FROM THE POOL DECK, BACK INTO THE EDGE OF THE POOL.
SO I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT MOVES BECAUSE THE SAND WILL MOVE.
SO IT ACTUALLY THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHETHER CURRENTLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT KIDS USE LIKE AS A BEACH WHERE THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, BUILD THEIR SAND CASTLES AND PLAY IN THE SAND.
OR IS IT NOT REALLY THAT KIND OF SAND? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MORE JUST AT THE WATER'S EDGE AND IN THE I THINK IT'S MORE INUNDATED AND IT'S JUST THERE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST THERE.
IT'S NOT A REAL BEACH AREA THAT HAS.
OKAY. THEY MAY TAKE SAND GO LUMP IT OVER SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT THAT IT'S NOT.
THE SAND TAPERS OUT AT THE WATER SO IT DOESN'T CREATE.
YEAH. WELL, YEAH, I WAS JUST ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS JUST TRYING TO THINK IN MY OWN MIND WHETHER THERE WAS ANY DOWNSIDE TO GETTING RID OF THE SAND, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT. YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE GRASS DESIGN.
I JUST WAS WONDERING IF WE WERE GOING TO BE TAKING AWAY SOME FUN FROM SOME PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND WE ACTUALLY AS PART OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WE LOOKED INTO SORT OF WHAT RECREATIONAL FACILITIES COULD BE REPLACED TO ACCOMMODATE OR AMELIORATE THE LOSS OF THAT SORT OF RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S NICE AND I THINK ALL PARENTS OF TODDLERS DO REALLY LIKE IT.
SO WE LOOKED INTO WHAT COULD WE ADD, LIKE A SPLASH PAD THAT COULD BE PART OF THIS AS WELL? IT TURNED OUT THAT BECOMES WE'RE EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE WATER FILTRATION OF THAT.
WE LOOKED INTO EVEN SORT OF HAVING IT FLOW INTO THE LAGOON.
SO PREVIOUS AGM OF OPERATIONS AND DECK DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STAFF STRUCK THAT OUT AS PART OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST ADDITIONAL COST. SO BUT YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT THAT IT IS IT DOES PROVIDE SORT OF A PHYSICAL AMENITY, RECREATIONAL AMENITY, AND THAT'S BEEN STAFF'S CONCERN FROM THE GET GO IN TERMS OF WANTING TO REMOVE IT.
THAT MAKES SENSE. SO I THINK THAT I THINK THAT COVERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS.
SO, DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS?
[Announcements]
NO ANNOUNCEMENTS.IN THAT CASE, I THINK WE'RE READY.
OH, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE VERY NICE AND SENSITIVE MEMORIAL WE HAD FOR OUR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, ELLEN CORBETT YESTERDAY. ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION, OR I FORGOT TO NOTE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, IS THE WONDERFUL MEMORIAL PICTURE OF HER IN OUR LOBBY AND THE FLOWERS AND THE WHOLE ARRANGEMENT THERE THAT WAS DONE BY KAREN MCCLENDON.
THE TIME IS 12:45 P.M..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.