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HAVE THE SOUND.THIS IS THE TRAIL STUDY SESSION FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT ON FRIDAY, MARCH 1ST, 2024, BEGINNING AT 1:13 PM MADAM
[ROLL CALL]
CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? YES.UH, DIRECTOR ROSARIO IS ABSENT.
AND A GM, UH, CHIEF OF POLICE TI I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE TODAY.
UH, DIRECTOR WASPY, CAN YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE? SURELY PLEASE JOIN ME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
[LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT]
JUAN, CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT? YES.THE EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT'S HEADQUARTERS IS LOCATED WITHIN THE IAN TERRITORY ON THE UNSEATED LANDS OF THE OHLONE TNO SPEAKING PEOPLES WHO HAVE CONTINUOUSLY LIVED UPON THIS LAND SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL.
THE LANDS NOW ENCOMPASSED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT ARE THE ANCESTRAL TERRITORY OF THE OHLONE BAY MEWA AND DELTA YOKU.
TODAY'S OHLONE BAY EWOK AND DELTA YOKU PEOPLE ARE THRIVING VITAL MEMBERS OF THE GREATER BAY AREA COMMUNITY.
THEY REMAIN INTRINSICALLY CONNECTED TO THE LAND.
THEY HAVE STEWARDED SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL.
SO PLEASE JOIN US IN RECOGNIZING AND HONORING THIS LAND AND THEIR ANCESTORS, ELDERS, DESCENDANTS, AND ALL OTHER MEMBERS OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.
TODAY'S MEETING IS HELD PURSUANT TO THE BROWN ACT.
THIS MEETING IS HELD IN A STUDY SESSION FORMAT TO ENCOURAGE BOARD MEMBER CONTENT.
THIS MEETING IS HELD IN A STUDY SESSION FORMAT TO ENCOURAGE, HI.
THIS MEETING IS HELD IN A STUDY SESSION FORMAT.
I AM GONNA START, UH, START BACK AT THE TOP OF THIS.
UH, TODAY'S MEETING IS HELD PURSUANT TO THE BROWN ACT.
THIS MEETING IS HELD IN A STUDY SESSION FORMAT TO ENCOURAGE BOARD MEMBER COMMENT AND DISCUSSION.
HOWEVER, PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BROWN ACT, NO FORMAL ACTIONS MAY BE TAKEN AT THIS STUDY SESSION.
THEREFORE, ANY ITEMS REQUIRING FORMAL BOARD ACTION WILL BE REFERRED TO THE FUTURE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETINGS.
FOR CONSIDERATION, WE ARE PROVIDING LIVE AUDIO AND VIDEO STREAMING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT CAN DO SO, ONE LIVE VIA ZOOM TWO BY SUBMITTING AN EMAIL, THREE IN PERSON AT EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT ADMINISTRATIVE HEADQUARTERS IN OAKLAND, OR FOUR BY LEAVING A VOICEMAIL.
THIS INFORMATION IS NOTED ON THE AGENDA.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEETING PROCEDURES, WE WILL BEGIN.
[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, PLEASE? SO MOVED.MOVED BY DIRECTOR WASPY AND SECONDED BY DIRECTOR MECURIO.
IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AS PRESIDENT ECCLES? WE HAVE ONE PERSON IN THE ROOM.[00:05:01]
A AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED IN THIS ROOM.YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, KELLY.
UM, YEAH, I WANTED TO GO DO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, TELL YOU ABOUT THE PITFALLS AND TRAIL DEVELOPMENT FOR, UH, ONE IS JUST THE USUAL, UH, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, UH, IS ISSUES, YOU KNOW, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, LIKE AT COYOTE HILLS, WHEN YOU SCHEDULE A ONE YEAR TRAIL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND NOW IT'S SCHEDULED FOR IT TO BE TWO YEARS.
IT'S TWICE AS LONG AS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED.
IN FACT, HALFWAY THROUGH THE PERIOD AFTER THE FLOODING, THE OFFICIAL SCHEDULE AS OF LAST AUGUST, CALLED FOR COMPLETION THE FOLLOWING MONTH.
AND AS OF LAST AUGUST, YOU ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THE FLOODS.
SO BY PUTTING OUT A COMPLETION SCHEDULE FOR ONE MONTH LATER, UH, IT'S INDICATIVE OF A DISCONNECT WITH YOUR, UH, WITH YOUR ACTUAL PROJECT TIME TIMELINE.
UM, THEN THERE'S ACTING OR TAKING, UM, IRREVERSIBLE MEASURES, UM, BASED ON FALSE ASSUMPTIONS.
SO THERE WAS A 60 CAR, 50 CAR FREE PARKING LOT AT THE ENTRANCE TO MISSION TO, UH, COYOTE HILLS.
IT GOT BULLDOZED IN NOVEMBER OF 2022.
THE, BECAUSE YOU WERE GONNA PUT IN A FARM STAND AND YOU WERE GONNA BE GROWING, UM, FOOD FOR PEOPLE, FOOD NEVER HAPPENED.
THE FARM STAND HASN'T HAPPENED.
THE ROVA CROPS ARE STILL THERE.
ADD BULL FOOD THERE AND, UM, CHANGE OF PLANS.
BUT THAT PARKING LOT IS STILL DESTROYED.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE PARKING LOT WAS DESTROYED.
CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW PARKING LOT STARTED, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE ONE YEAR, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS TAKING TWO YEARS AS MENTIONED EARLIER.
UM, THEN THERE'S, UH, THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, SCARFACE TRAIL AT MISSION PEAK.
FAMOUS THING WITH PRESS RELEASES IN 2015 GOT BUILT.
THERE WAS, UH, TWO YEARS AGO, MANAGEMENT SAID, OH, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT THERE.
REMEMBER THE SCARFACE TRAIL AT MISSION PEAK? WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE IT.
WE'RE GONNA, AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AND THE SCARFACE TRAIL IS STILL, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, THE INCLINE IS TOO STEEP.
IT'S A, YOU CAN'T BUILD DIRT ROADS ON A, AT A VERY STEEP INCLINE.
IT'S JUST, UH, NOT GOOD FOR CIVIL ENGINEERS.
AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT A CIVIL ENGINEER.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'S THE, UH, THE ISSUE OF, UH, SIDEWALKS ON, UH, COMMERCE DRIVE WHERE YOU CAN'T PUT PAR.
UH, THE CITY DOESN'T WANNA ALLOW PARKING ON THE STREET BECAUSE THAT SIDE OF THE STREET DOESN'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.
AND IT OCCURRED TO ME THIS MORNING AT, YOU KNOW, LIKE 3:00 AM I WOKE UP, I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE.
I'M GONNA PARK MY CAR TODAY ON PERALTA OAKS COURT RIGHT HERE.
MY CAR IS PARKED HERE AND THERE CAR IS PARKED ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR THE CORONER'S OFFICE.
AND DID YOU KNOW THAT NONE OF THESE CARS HAS A SIDEWALK? NONE OF THESE PARKING SPOTS HAS A SIDEWALK, AND THEY LET YOU PARK HERE IN OAK? OF COURSE, IT'S NOT THE CITY OF FREMONT, IT'S THE CITY OF OAKLAND.
SO IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONAL RE REGIME.
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING WHERE NOBODY HAS A PROBLEM ALLOWING PARKING ON PUBLIC STREETS WITH NO SIDEWALK HERE, RIGHT IN FRONT OF HERE.
BUT IT'S A BIG PROBLEM IN FREMONT.
DID MR. BAYER, CAN YOU HEAR ME? BRUCE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? AH, AM I, AM I LIVE NOW? YES.
HI, BRUCE FIRED HERE, CHAIR OF TRACK TRAILS FOR RICHMOND ACTION COMMITTEE.
UH, WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE DISTRICT VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE LEAD IN DESIGNING AND GETTING READY TO GO OUT FOR BID, UH, TO BUILD THE POINT ME BAY TRAIL, WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF RICHMOND, WHERE THE CITY WILL PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION ON ITS PART, UH, USING GRANT FUNDS RESULTING FROM APPLICATIONS REPAIRED BY TRACK.
BUT THIS MORNING, I'D LIKE TO THIS AFTERNOON, UH, REMIND YOU OF THE IMPORTANCE OF SECURING THE EASEMENT PROMISED BY CHEVRON TO EXTEND THE BAY TRAIL FROM POINT ME TO THE CITY OF RICHMOND'S POINT, SAN PABLO PROPERTY.
UH, CHEVRON COMMITTED TO STATE LANDS COMMISSION THROUGH TRACKS WORK IN 2008 TO PROVIDE THIS EASEMENT ACROSS THIS LAND.
UH, THE DISTRICT GOT A, AN AGREEMENT FROM CHEVRON 14 YEAR, 15 YEARS AGO NOW THAT CHEVRON WOULD DONATE THAT AGREEMENT.
BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED, AND THERE'S SOME REASONS FOR THAT.
IT'S BEEN ON THE BACK BURNER FOR 15 YEARS.
SO I LIKE TO ASK THE DISTRICT TO GET BACK ON TOP
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OF THAT.IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE THERE'S UNDERLYING RAILROAD EASEMENTS, BUT I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO WORK THINGS OUT, PERHAPS GETTING A FLOATING EASEMENT FROM CHEVRON.
BUT IT'S REALLY CRITICAL TO GET THAT EASEMENT LINED UP TO EXTEND THE TRO FROM POINT MALAWI TO POINT SAN PABLO, THE SAN PABLO PENINSULA OPEN SPACE PLAN.
SO RECREATIONAL USE OF POINT SAN PABLO WAS THE KEY SUCCESS OF AN OPEN SPACE PLAN OUT THERE.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE LAND TENURE, THE DISTRICT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE THE FIRST STEPS OF GETTING GRANTS OR PLANNING AND DESIGNING THAT TRAIL.
SO THIS IS THE YEAR I HOPE TO MOVE FORWARD AND SECURE THAT EASEMENT FROM CHEVRON SO THAT FUTURE BAY TRAIL EXTENSION CAN BE MADE.
DO WE HAVE OTHER COMMENTS? NO.
[ACQUISITION, STEWARDSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT DIVISION]
ON TO OUR AGENDAS ITEMS. SO FIRST WE HAVE OUR TRAILS PROGRAM MANAGER, SEAN DUGAN, WILL PRESENT THE TRAIL DEVELOPMENT MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT OVERVIEW AGENDA ITEM.I'M THE TRAILS PROGRAM MANAGER, AND I'M HERE TO FACILITATE THE 2024 TRAILS STUDY SESSION.
AND I AM JOINED, UH, IN THE ROOM TODAY BY ROBERT KENNEDY, CHIEF OF MAINTENANCE AND SKILLED, UH, TRADES AND CAPTAIN TERRANCE OR JOE KOCHER FROM PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UM, WHY I HAVE THEM HERE TODAY WITH ME.
UM, BUT OF COURSE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE ROOM.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT SOMEHOW WE CAN'T ANSWER, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GET YOU AN ANSWER TODAY, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT DISCUSSION.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE USING A SIMILAR FORMAT THAT, THAT WE HAVE WITH THESE STUDY SESSIONS WHERE, UM, I SHARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE, UH, IN VARIOUS STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH, UH, IN MY SHOP AND IN, UM, OTHERS LIKE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
UM, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU TODAY SOME OF THE PLANNING, UM, SOME OF THE RFPS REQUEST REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS THAT WE, UH, PLAN TO RELEASE THIS YEAR VERY SOON.
UM, WE'LL GIVE A UPDATE ON THE BRIANA'S PILOT PROJECT SCHEDULE MOVING FORWARD, REAL BRIEF, UM, AND THEN GET INTO THE TRAIL INVENTORY THAT WE ARE, UM, EMBARKING UPON THIS YEAR AND SOME, UM, ISSUES WITH DATA COLLECTION.
AND THEN THE, UM, THE SECOND HALF OF THE, OF THE WORKSHOP, UM, WILL, WILL FEATURE ROBERT AND, AND, UM, JOE TO TALK ABOUT TRAIL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND TRAIL MANAGEMENT.
SO YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THESE THREE BUCKETS OR DISCIPLINES OR PILLARS OF TRAILS MANAGEMENT OR OF THE TRAILS PROGRAM AT THE PARK DISTRICT.
IT JIVES WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE GIVE YOU A SNEAK PREVIEW, UM, OF LAST YEAR, TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON.
UM, BUT THESE THREE, UH, FOCUS AREAS ENCOMPASS ALL THE WORK AND DISCIPLINES AT THE PARK DISTRICT THAT GO INTO THIS, INTO THIS, INTO THIS WORK.
AND THE THREE MAIN PILLARS, JUST REAL BRIEFLY, DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT DEVELOPMENT, UH, INCLUDES PLANNING, FEASIBILITY, STUDIES, DESIGN, SEQUIN, NEPA, ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, PERMITTING, GRANT ACQUISITION, AND THEN EVENTUAL CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT'S ALL WITHIN THAT BUCKET.
TRAILS MAINTENANCE INCLUDES THE CYCLICAL GRADING, CLEARING TREAD WORK, UH, INSTALLATION OF RETAINING STRUCTURES, DRAINAGE FEATURES, PERMITTING, CLEARING CULVERTS AT TRAIL CROSSINGS, POTENTIAL REROUTES, AND OF COURSE PAVING ON OUR EXISTING TRAILS.
SO TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE'VE BUILT IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE.
AND THEN THE THIRD TRAILS MANAGEMENT IS POLICY CREATION, ADOPTION AND ENFORCEMENT OF TRAIL USE, POLICIES AND RULES, UH, USER CONFLICT RESOLUTION, UM, RESPONSE TO EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES, TRAIL USER ACCESS AND EQUITY, TRAIL ETIQUETTE, AND EDUCATION AND ANALYSIS OF USE PATTERNS AND DATA COLLECTION.
AND OVERARCHING, ALL OF THESE BUCKETS IS, OF COURSE, OUR DISTRICT MISSION TO PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES SO THAT IT'S, IT'S EMBEDDED IN ALL OF THESE, AND IT'S INVOLVED IN ALL OF THESE.
SO WHY IS THIS, WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? RIGHT.
UM, WELL, BECAUSE, UH, PARDON ME.
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BECAUSE EVERY DIVISION AT THE PARK DISTRICT TOUCHES TRAILS IN SOME WAY.AND SO WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT TRAILS AND THE TRAILS PROGRAM, NOT JUST IN DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THESE, ALL OF THESE PILLARS, UM, BECAUSE WE WANT A HOLISTIC AND UNIFIED VISION MOVING FORWARD TO HELP THE PARK DISTRICT MOVE FROM SURVIVING IN THE TRAILS BUSINESS TO THRIVING IN THE TRAILS BUSINESS.
SO THE GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK OF THESE, UM, IN THIS WAY.
UM, AND THE THREE ELEMENTS ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTRICATELY WOVEN TOGETHER, RIGHT? SO CHANGES TO ONE IMPACTS THE OTHERS.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, SUSTAINABLE TRAIL DESIGN, UH, COULD LEAD TO A MORE MANAGEABLE LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE REQUIRED.
AND MIN WITH MINIMAL EROSION AND IMPACTS TO NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.
ADEQUATE MAINTENANCE OF TRAILS ENCOURAGES US USERS TO ACTUALLY STAY ON THESE DESIGNATED PATHS AND NOT TRY TO SEEK OUT OTHER, UM, SAFER, MAYBE MORE DIRECT OR NOT BLOCKED CORRIDORS.
AND THEN LASTLY, PROPER DESIGN AND MAINTENANCE OF TRAILS CAN ALSO HELP USERS MANAGE THEIR OWN ACTIVITY AND THEIR OWN SPEED, FOR INSTANCE, AND THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR, THUS MINIMIZING AREAS OF POTENTIAL CONFLICT AND, UH, MINIMIZING THE NEED FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TO TRY TO BE EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE ARE THE THREE TYPES OF TRAILS THAT THE PARK DISTRICT MANAGES.
YOU HAVE YOUR UNPAVED ROADS AND FIRE ROADS ON THE LEFT.
YOU HAVE NATURAL SURFACE TRAILS OR SINGLE TRACK TRAILS, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR DESCRIBING THAT TYPE OF TRAIL.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR PAVED REGIONAL TRAILS.
AND EACH ONE OF THESE TYPES OF TRAILS HAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT APPROACH TO DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE, AND MANAGEMENT.
UM, AND THEY CAN'T BE APPROACHED IN THE SAME WAY.
THEY REQUIRE DIFFERENT PERSONNEL, THEY REQUIRE A DIFFERENT, UH, APPROACH.
THEY REQUIRE DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA.
NOW, I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THIS GRAPH A LOT, AND I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THIS GRAPH, UH, THIS PIE CHART, UH, SOMETIMES AT NIGHT
SO, UM, THI THIS IS OUR DISTRIBUTION OF WHAT TYPES OF TRAILS, UH, THAT I JUST DESCRIBED TO YOU.
AND OF COURSE, YOU SEE OUR UNPAVED RANCH ROADS AND FIRE ROADS ARE THE, THE MOST, UM, MILEAGE THAT WE HAVE AT THE PARK DISTRICT.
AND THIS IS A, THIS IS A, UM, REFLECTION OF WHAT WE RECEIVE WHEN WE BUY PROPERTIES.
AND THIS WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE.
THESE PI, THESE PIE PIECES WILL CHANGE OVER TIME.
NOW, THE UNPAVED TRAILS, THE 200 MILES IN THE GREENS PIE, THAT'S THE PIE PIECE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS A PIECE OF, AND THAT THAT WILL CHANGE AND SHOULD CHANGE.
UH, WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM OUR PUBLIC THAT THIS ISN'T ADEQUATE ENOUGH, AND WE'RE HEARING THAT, HEARING THAT, UM, IN MULTIPLE WAYS SIMPLY BY THEM ASKING.
BUT ALSO BECAUSE OUR ESTIMATES SHOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY DOUBLE THIS AMOUNT OF BOOTLEG TRAILS IN OUR PARKS.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER WAY OF COMMUNICATING SOMEWHAT OF A CRY FOR HELP.
AND THE PAVED TRAILS, UM, WILL ALSO CHANGE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TWO TH THOUSAND 13 MASTER PLAN MAP, UH, AND LOOK AT ALL THE PINK LINES ON THAT MAP, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT, UH, I DID SOME MATH HERE, UH, AGAINST MY BETTER JUDGMENT.
UM, THERE'S ABOUT 430 ADDITIONAL PROPOSED MILES TOTAL ON THAT MAP.
AND ROUGHLY 120 ARE PROPOSED TO BE PAVED.
AND SO THROUGH TIME, THIS RED PIE PIECE HERE WILL GROW.
UM, BUT THE QUESTIONS I ASK AND THINK ABOUT WITH THIS IS, SHOULD THESE BE, SHOULD THESE BE EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED EXCEPT FOR DISCUSSION UP FOR DEBATE? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT PERHAPS THAT'S A, THAT'S A ANOTHER DISCUSSION POINT WE COULD HAVE.
UM, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAVED TRAILS AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO AT THE PARK DISTRICT, IT'S PRETTY LOFTY.
120 MILES COSTS ABOUT BETWEEN THREE AND $5 MILLION TO BUILD A HALF A MILE OF PA PAVED TRAIL.
SO LET'S SAY 5 MILLION PER HALF, I'M SORRY, 5 MILLION PER MILE TO BE SAFE TIMES 120 IS ABOUT 600 MILLION THAT WE WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH AND IF WE WERE MANAGING THESE PROJECTS OURSELVES.
AND THAT'S THE OTHER DISCUSSION IS, IS THAT ALL OUR JOB IS THAT ALL OUR, OUR ROLE.
AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IT REALLY ISN'T OUR FEDERAL AND STATE MONEY'S COMING IN.
WE'RE LEVERAGING THAT, UM, VERY WELL.
OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND DEVELOPERS BUILD THESE TRAILS AND THINGS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THIS PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IT IS NOW AND, AND ALSO GET YOU THINKING ABOUT SOME OF, SOME OF THE WAYS THIS COULD CHANGE AND WILL CHANGE.
BUT THIS IS YOUR STUDY SESSION.
SO OUR GOAL TODAY IS NOT TO STAND HERE AND TALK AT YOU.
UM, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, I REACHED OUT IN JANUARY AND I ASKED, UM, FOR SOME TOPICS THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA TALK ABOUT.
I ONLY HEARD FROM THREE OF YOU, AND THAT'S OKAY.
UM, BUT, UM, SO WE TOOK A STAB AT THIS, BUT THESE QUESTIONS HERE ARE MEANT TO JUST KIND OF GET THE CONVERSATION
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GOING.YOU DON'T HAVE TO STRICTLY STICK TO THESE QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.
OF COURSE, I KNOW YOU, YOU WON'T
BUT, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT WHATEVER IT IS THAT COMES, COMES UP TODAY, UM, REGARDING TRAILS.
I MEAN, AND, UM, AND ONE OF, ONE OF THE GREAT EXAMPLE, UM, RECENT, JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, WE HEARD, YOU KNOW, UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT STEEP FIRE ROADS AND, AND WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT STEEP FIRE ROADS.
IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF, OF ONE OF THOSE DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE, UM, WERE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT AND THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF SETTING.
SO, OKAY, SO I WILL PAUSE FOR A SECOND AND, AND WE WILL PAUSE AFTER EACH ONE OF THESE SORT OF, UH, UNITS, I GUESS YOU WILL.
AND, UM, ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I GET INTO SOME PROJECT UPDATES.
UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE SEPTEMBER WHEN I WAS HERE LAST TALKING ABOUT THESE, BUT THERE ARE SOME UPDATES I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU.
AND THEN OF COURSE, I HAVE MY, UM, MY, UH, STORY MAP THAT CAN, HAS ALL 20 THAT YOU, 20 PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET THERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN ZOOM AROUND AND KIND OF GO WHEREVER YOU'D LIKE.
BUT I DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC UPDATES I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY.
SO I'LL ASK IF THERE, I'LL PAUSE FOR A SECOND.
UH, DIRECTOR SAN JUAN, REAL QUICK, AT THE BEGINNING YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT FOUR PILLARS, AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE PACKET.
COULD YOU JUST REVIEW IT? THREE PILLARS? YES.
I, I, I AM KIND OF INTERCHANGING PILLARS, DISCIPLINES OR ELEMENTS OF A TRAILS PROGRAM, AND THAT'S DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE, AND MANAGEMENT.
AND YOU, YOU ALSO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY TOOLS AND HOW THAT'S A PART OF IT.
WAS THAT PART OF THIS THREE PILLARS? YEAH, THAT I WOULD PUT CONVERSATION.
I WOULD, YEAH, I WOULD PUT THAT INTO, UM, INTO THE MANAGEMENT, UH, PILLAR.
YEAH, MANAGEMENT IS, IS, IS QUITE A LOT.
I MEAN, YOU COULD EVEN PUT STEWARDSHIP OF OUR LANDS IN THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY THE ADMINISTRATION AND, UM, HOW WE GOVERN AND MANAGE THE TRAILS AND ENFORCE OUR RULES, ET CETERA.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL, THANK YOU.
AND THEN, UM, WITH THE, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WITH THE TWO QUESTIONS, ARE YOU HOPING THAT WE INTEGRATE THOSE TWO QUESTIONS INTO EACH OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE ABOUT TO REVIEW? OR IS THAT AN OVERARCHING CONVERSATION THAT YOU WANNA HAVE WITH US TODAY? A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
UH, THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE THESE GET YOU THINKING ABOUT AN OVERALL OVERARCHING CONVERSATION.
THEY, THEY WEREN'T SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECTS, BUT OF COURSE IT WE'RE.
I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ESSENTIALLY.
UM, AND THEN I THINK THAT'S ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW, SO THANK YOU.
MCC, THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO, IS HOW ARE WE GONNA WORK IN THOSE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS HERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, YOU KNOW, THOSE THREE, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, SO I GUESS WE'RE JUST GONNA BRING 'EM UP AS WE NOTICE THAT IT INFECTS WHAT WE'RE TALKING.
THIS IS THIS, UH, I'LL, LET ME CLARIFY.
SO YOU, AFTER I SPEAK, WE'LL HAVE ROBERT KENNEDY, CHIEF OF MASS COME UP AND HE'LL EXPLAIN SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND APPROACHES TO MANAGING.
SO IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS OF, UH, ABOUT MAINTENANCE OF OUR TRAILS, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN HE'S FINISHED SPEAKING, THAT'S THE TIME WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
I THINK IT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE TIME.
OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, YOU COULD BRING THAT UP AT ANY POINT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL SHIFT OUT, UM, AGAIN, WITH THE, WITH MANAGEMENT, UM, CAPTAIN JOE KOCHER WILL COME UP.
HE HAS SOME STATISTICS, SOME ENFORCEMENT, UH, SOME INCIDENT STATISTICS AND SOME, UM, CITATION STATISTICS.
AND HE, UH, AND AFTER, YOU KNOW, DURING, DURING HIS SEGMENT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT THEN WE ARE GOING TO BREAK AND JUST TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD AT THE END AS WELL, UM, TO, TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION.
IT'S KINDA A NEW, NEW FORMAT, BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, I'M REALLY, I'M PUMPED FOR IT.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CONTINUE? OKAY.
SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE POINT EXCUSE, EXCUSE ME JUST ONE SECOND.
PRESIDENT LES, I GOING, GONNA WAIT UNTIL HE FINISHES TO ALLOW FOR THE COMMENT.
UM, YEAH, HE, HE CAN GO AHEAD AND FINISH IT.
'CAUSE WE'RE JUST DOING THE FIRST ONE AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? THE FIRST ONE, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE PROJECTS THAT PROJECT UPDATE, STICKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT BUCKET OR PILLAR.
'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, MR. LAFORCE HAS COMMENTS ON ALL THREE, SO, OKAY.
WHICH, WHICH, WHICH WE WILL ALLOW THREE MINUTES ON EACH.
SO, UM, SO JUST WANTED BE CLEAR AS WE FLOW FROM ONE TO THE NEXT, BUT, OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
I, AND THAT SOUNDS GOOD, IF THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO YOU.
PRESIDENT ECKLES, UM, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU HAVE
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ONE PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION AFTER ITEM ROMAN AND RULE SIX, IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? OR, UM, WELL, I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING THAT WE WOULD TREAT EACH ONE OF THESE TOPICS AS A SEPARATE TOPIC.UH, THE ACQUISITION STEWARDSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT DIVISION, THE SUB, THE SUBPOINTS IN THERE.
I MEAN, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT IS FINE, BUT I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE IT AFTER EACH ONE.
IF YOU WANNA JUST BUNDLE THAT AND HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, ON THAT.
IT'S BASICALLY, THIS IS ALL ABOUT TRAILS AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE ONE, BUT DO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE DISCRETION TO DO IT HOWEVER YOU WISH.
WELL, I'LL STICK WITH THE, THE WHAT I, WHAT I ALREADY ANNOUNCED.
UM, BUT, UH, BUT IF, UM, BUT DON'T FEEL OBLIGED TO USE THE WHOLE TIME, MR. LAFORCE.
WELL, I KIND OF ASSUMED IT WAS GONNA BE AT THE VERY END.
WELL, WE'LL START WITH POINT MAL, AND AS, UM, YOU HEARD IT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO PUTTING THIS PROJECT OUT TO BID.
UH, WE ARE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF RICHMOND TO, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY CHANGED HANDS.
SO WE'VE BEEN DESIGNING AND MANAGING THIS PROJECT, UH, UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT ALL THE LAND HAD BEEN ACQUIRED AND WE HAD RIGHTS OF WAY, BUT WHEN THE LAND CHANGED, THAT SLIGHTLY CHANGED IN CERTAIN AREAS.
AND SO WE WERE CONTEMPLATING, IF YOU RECALL, CONTEMPLATING SPLITTING THE PROJECT IN HALF, UH, POSSIBLY IF THOSE, THOSE ISSUES COULDN'T BE RESOLVED.
WELL, THEY'RE SUCCESSFULLY NEGOTIATING THOSE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO BE ABLE TO BID THIS ENTIRE PROJECT AS A 2.5 MILE GAP CLOSURE PROJECT, UH, OF THE BAY TRAIL, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.
UH, WE WE'RE WAITING FOR ONE PERMIT.
UM, WE'RE JUST WORKING OUT SOME FINAL ISSUES THERE.
UM, THE RICHMOND HAD SOME SECURITY ISSUES AND SOME FENCING, UM, ISSUES TO BE ABLE TO SECURE THE, THE PROPERTY THAT IS NOW OWNED, UH, WELL IS NOT OWNED BY RICHMOND ANYMORE.
AND, UM, AND SO THOSE ARE MINOR DESIGN CHANGES.
UM, THE, THE DELAYS ARE HAPPENING SIMPLY BECAUSE WE'RE REFINING THE DESIGN, BUT WE DID, WE DO HAVE A SLIGHT DELAY.
I AM LOOKING TO SEE IF I CAN GET ANY PICTURES FOR YOU.
UM, AND, UH, WE HOPE TO, WE REALLY WERE SHOOTING FOR MID-MARCH, BUT IT REALLY COULD, IT PRO PROBABLY GONNA BE LATE MARCH.
UM, BUT DON'T WORRY, UM, WE THINK WE'RE STILL GONNA GET COMPETITIVE BIDS ON THIS BECAUSE OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FIRM THAT WE'VE HAD ON BOARD FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW HAS BEEN SHOPPING THIS PROJECT AROUND WITH LOCAL CONTRACTORS.
AND THERE'S A FEW THAT WE KNOW ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS.
SO WE'RE HOPING FOR COMPETITIVE BIDS.
AND, UM, WE, WE WILL BE GETTING THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE THIS WEEK FOR THE 100% DESIGN PLANS.
AND AT THAT POINT, WE WILL KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH FUNDING OR NOT.
AND OF COURSE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT WILL COST UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET THE BIDS.
UH, BUT, BUT I JUST WANNA PUT YOU ON NOTICE THAT, UH, IT'S BEEN WHEN A PROJECT LASTS THIS LONG AND TAKES THIS LONG AND THEY ALL DO THE, THE COSTS CONTINUALLY GOES UP.
ANY QUESTIONS ON POINT MAUDE? NO.
UM, AS FAR AS PHASE TWO, WE ARE WORKING TO EXTEND THAT AGREEMENT WITH CHEVRON TO GET THAT EASEMENT FOR THE SECOND PHASE SO WE CAN CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSIONS.
UM, WE ARE VERY BLESSED TO HAVE A TEAM AT CHEVRON.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S OUR THIRD OR FOURTH TEAM AT CHEVRON, BUT THIS TEAM IS PROACTIVE IN CALLING US BACK AND WORKING WITH US AND VERY INTERESTED IN RESOLVING THIS AS WELL.
SO, UM, I'M HAPPY WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP RIGHT NOW, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO CRACK THIS NUT UP THERE IN PHASE TWO.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
SO, SEAN, WHERE, WHICH EXACTLY THE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE, THE EASEMENT, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLACES AND, UM, JUST WANNA BE CLEAR.
IF YOU COULD ADDRESS, UM, BRUCE BAYER'S POINT AS WELL.
SO THE PROJECT HERE IN YELLOW IS OUR PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2.5 MILES FROM THE BRIDGE TO WINE HAVEN.
HALF OF IT IS RICHMOND'S, HALF OF IT IS OURS.
THE OTHER PHASE TWO WE'RE REFERRING TO IS THIS LINE IN PURPLE, WHICH ACTUALLY IS MEANT ON OUR MASTER PLAN.
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IT IN ORANGE.ALL IT WAS MEANT TO, UH, GO ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE MARINA HERE.
UM, THIS AREA, IF I CAN ZOOM IN, UM, WAS A PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT THE LOWER YELLOW PROJECT PORTION WAS IN, UM, BACK IN 2012 WHEN CHEVRON AGREED TO GIVE THE PARK DISTRICT AN EASEMENT FOR A TRAIL HERE.
HOWEVER, THEY DISCOVERED AFTER THEY PROMISED THAT, THAT THERE WERE STILL RAILROAD RIGHTS ON, ON A LOT OF THAT PROPERTY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE TRAIL REALLY, UM, THE, THE, HOW IT'S A BOTTLENECK HERE, UM, REALLY CAN'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT TOUCHING THAT RAILROAD PROPERTY.
SO ESSENTIALLY CHEVRON DOESN'T HAVE THE COMPLETE RIGHTS TO, TO, TO GIVE US AN EASEMENT.
AND SO WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH CHEVRON AND, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE, UH, UNIFIED FRONT IN SPEAKING WITH THE RAILROADS AS WELL MOVING FORWARD HERE.
BUT, UM, JUST TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON PHASE ONE.
AND SO UNTIL WE KIND OF GET THAT OUT TO BID AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND EVEN COMPLETED, WE REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE HARD PRESSED TO REALLY FOCUS ON PHASE TWO, WHICH IS GOING TO BE EQUALLY AS EXPENSIVE, IF NOT MORE.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY TAKE JUST AS LONG.
WELL, I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE WORKING WITH A TEAM ON CHEVRON WHO IS RESPONSIVE AND, AND SEEMS ALIGNED WITH THE VISION.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN TIED UP BECAUSE OF THE, THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
UM, BUT I'M, I'M GLAD, I THINK THAT THAT MAKES SENSE.
IF, IF WE CAN ENGAGE THE PARTIES AND, AND TRY TO GET THIS WORKED OUT.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO, UM, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU GOTTA GET THE, THE PHASE ONE KICKED OFF, BUT MAYBE WHILE THAT'S IN PROCESS, WE CAN WORK OUT THE PROBLEM OR, OR REACH A SOLUTION WITH THE, WITH THE RAILROADS AND, UM, BE READY TO GO WHEN, WHEN, UH, THE TIME COMES TO START WORK ON PHASE TWO.
UM, HOPEFULLY THAT ADDRESSED THOSE CONCERNS.
UM, MOVING TO PLEASANTON RIDGE.
SO THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAVEMENT NOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIRT.
UM, SO WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL MILES OF, UH, PERMITTED TRAILS IN PLEASANTON RIDGE.
AND, UH, BUT TWO OF, TWO OF THE MOST, UH, READY, UM, ARE THE, THE MARIPOSA TRAIL AND THE PHILIP SCHULTZ TRAIL.
AND, UM, WE ARE STILL PLANNING TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE THIS YEAR.
UH, WE'RE MAKING SOME CHANGES.
UM, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO WE HEARD, WE WENT THROUGH, UM, A WHOLE YEAR'S PROCESS TO DETERMINE IN, IN A MEET AND CONFER PROCESS TO, UM, HIRE AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR TO BUILD TRAILS FOR US, IT'S ONE METHOD TO DO IT.
IT'S A, IT'S ONE METHOD IN A TOOLBOX OF HOW WE CAN BUILD TRAILS HERE.
WE, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAILS TO BUILD AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING ON OTHER THINGS BESIDES TRAILS, TRAILS CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT COMPANY, UH, WAS, WE, WE ENTERED IN AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND THEN ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, THEY CALLED US AND SAID THAT WE'RE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS.
AND SO WE ARE GONNA GO TO THE NEXT CONTRACTOR THAT PROPOSED.
UM, AND IT MIGHT SET US BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET THESE TWO TRAILS BUILT THIS YEAR STILL.
UM, THESE PROJECTS ARE HARD ENOUGH TO BUILD ALREADY.
UM,
AND SO THIS IS JUST PART OF US FIGURING OUT THE BEST WAY TO BUILD THESE AND, AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH THIS.
BUT, UM, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THERE.
UM, I'M LAUGHING TO KEEP FROM CRYING, BUT, UM, BUT WE, WE THINK WE, WE HAVE A, A WAY FORWARD.
UH, AND WE, I WILL SAY TOO THAT, UM, THE MAYOR POSA TRAIL HERE, WE'VE, WE'VE CUT OUT SOME OF THE MORE IMPACTFUL AREAS AND WE BASICALLY CUT THAT TRAIL IN HALF.
UM, AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE ONE IS TO CUT COSTS, BUT ALSO, UM, THEY STARTED IDENTIFYING BRIDGES THAT WE NEED TO BUILD.
AND, AND THEN WHEN THAT'S REALLY THE LAST RESORT, WE, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO BUILD BRIDGES OVER DRAINAGES.
UH, SO AS WHEN, IF WE CAN AVOID IT.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, UH, THAT'S IT ON THAT, WERE YOU ASKING QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE MAP THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET THAT IT MADE ME THINK OF, 'CAUSE I THINK TECHNICALLY THIS IS IN WARD THREE THAT I KNOW, UH, A LOT OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF PLEASANTON ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THESE PROJECTS.
AND MY COMMENT IS WHEN THERE ARE PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT MIGHT BE OUTSIDE OF, I'LL JUST GIVE THIS AS A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OUTSIDE OF WARD FIVE THAT I KNOW ARE VERY MUCH OF INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN WARD FIVE.
IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT IF THERE'S UPDATES SHARED THAT IT'S NOT JUST SHARED WITH, YOU KNOW, THE WARD THREE DIRECTOR, WASPY, BUT ALSO SHARED WITH MYSELF.
'CAUSE I KNOW I WOULD DEFINITELY
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LIKE TO JUST STAY IN THE LOOP ON THESE PROJECTS.AND I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY UPDATE SHARED WITH, WITH, UM, UH, DIRECTOR
AND I CAN GIVE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
I, I, I KNOW WE, WE SHARE FREMONT AND I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BE INCLUDED IN ALL OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, FREMONT TRAILS AND PROJECTS THAT MAYBE ARE IN WARD THREE, BUT UH, ARE OF INTEREST TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN WARD FIVE.
SO THAT, THAT'S JUST ONE COMMENT I WANTED TO SHARE WHEN LOOKING AT THE MAP.
UM, 'CAUSE I, I KNOW THAT IN REGARDS TO THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING UP ON THE PLEASANTON RIDGE IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN PLEASANTON LIKE TO TALK TO ME ABOUT.
OH YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING, UH, UH, WE'RE ALL GETTING A LITTLE LIGHT HERE, BUT I MEAN, DO WE HAVE A CHAPLAIN IN THIS DEPARTMENT THAT WE COULD TALK TO THE SHOS FAMILY ABOUT THIS, WHO HAVE SUFFERED FOR A LONG TIME DONATING MONEY FOR THEIR SON AND HUSBAND AND EVERYTHING ELSE WHO THOUGHT HE'D GET A TRAIL OR THEY'D GET A TRAIL OUT OF THIS.
BUT WE DID MEET WITH, WITH EMILY SCHULTZ, UH, AND, UH, THE FOUNDATION, UH, LAUREN AND I MET WITH HER RECENTLY, AND, UH, THIS WAS RIGHT BE
AND, AND I, I, I COMMITTED WE'RE GONNA BUILD IT THIS YEAR.
AND SO I'VE GOTTA MAKE THAT CALL STILL.
BUT, UM, WE, WE STILL THINK WE, THAT'S WHY I'M STILL PUSHING FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY, UM, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, IT'S THE 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF PHILIP SCHULTZ'S DEATH THIS YEAR, AND HIS BIRTHDAY IS ON OC WOULD HAVE BEEN OCTOBER 5TH.
SO WE'RE REALLY SHOOTING FOR THAT DATE, AND WE'RE STILL SHOOTING FOR THAT DATE.
UH, BUT, UM, THERE SHE HAS NOTIFIED US THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN THE FOUNDATION THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE OUT AND MOVE ON AND, UM, IN, IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF AROUND 60,000 MORE DOLLARS.
WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE THESE TRAIL PROJECTS, UM, ARE COSTLY AND WE COULD USE THAT.
UM, SO, SO DO WE EXPECT THAT OCTOBER 5TH IS WITHIN REASON? I, RIGHT NOW IT IS.
WE, WE ARE MEETING, UH, LATER THIS MONTH WITH THE OTHER CONTRACTOR AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY CAN GIVE US A SCOPE AND THEN I WILL BE RETURNING BACK TO YOU WITH A CONTRACT TO HIRE THEM AS SOON AS I CAN, AND THEN WE CAN GET THEM GOING.
UH, IT'S SANTA CRUZ MOUNTAIN TRAIL STEWARDSHIP.
UM, THE OTHER FIRM WAS FROM COLORADO, IF YOU RECALL.
SO THERE'S SOME GOOD THINGS THERE.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S STILL DOABLE, DIRECTOR WASPY.
UH, BUT I, I WILL KEEP YOU AND OF COURSE, DIRECTOR SAN WONG AND THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS APPRISED OF WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS HERE.
ACTUALLY MORE ON THE SAME TOPIC.
WELL, LET, LET, LET ME TRY SOMETHING HERE.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU, YOU HAVE THOSE TWO QUESTIONS AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY INTEGRATING SOME OF 'EM IN HERE.
AND MAYBE I'LL JUST PUT THIS OUT HERE, BUT WE COULD DISCUSS IT AT THE END.
BUT ONE THING I KNOW THAT IS A PRETTY FAIRLY LARGE TREND ON PLEASANTON RIDGE IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, UN SANCTIONED TRAILS, I GUESS WE'LL SAY.
UM, IN THINKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY APPS, A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT APPS WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO ON THESE UNSANCTIONED TRAILS.
SO I'M GONNA LEAVE THIS AS A QUESTION.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW, SINCE WE'RE GOING PROJECT BY PROJECT, MAYBE AT THE END OF THIS WORKSHOP, THAT'S SOMETHING TO MAYBE DISCUSS.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES WITH THIS GUIDANCE OF, YOU KNOW, THESE THIRD PARTY APPS TELLING PEOPLE, OH, YO, YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY TO GO, YOU KNOW, ON THIS TRAIL THAT'S NOT SANCTIONED.
WE CAN HAVE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS THAT HAPPEN.
SO I THINK WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TRAILS, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT I KNOW WE WON'T ANSWER TODAY.
BUT ONE THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE IS INCLUDED IN THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT TRAILS IN GENERAL.
AND I SHOULD MENTION MY STAFF IS LISTENING AND TAKING NOTES IF I'M NOT TOO DISTRACTING FOR ME.
BUT I THINK YOU'LL BE INTERESTED IN THE, IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TRAIL INVENTORY THAT I'LL GET TO IN A BIT, BECAUSE IT DOES, IT RELATES TO THIS PARK AND THAT ISSUE DIRECTLY.
AND, AND, AND ACTUALLY I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE NAME OF THAT, THAT OUTFIT, BECAUSE I, I, I KNOW THEM A LITTLE BIT.
I GET THEIR EMAILS AND I TALK TO SOME OF THEM AT A TRAILS CONFERENCE, AND THEY SEEM TO BE ON TOP OF THINGS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE REALLY ORGANIZED.
THEY GOT A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS AND THEY'RE ALL REALLY VERY SKILLED.
AND THEY GOT, I GUESS THEY GOT PAID PEOPLE TOO, UM, I GUESS, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'M WONDERING ABOUT THAT SOUTHERN ONE, THOUGH.
THE, THE ONE THAT'S, YEAH, THAT ONE THERE ON THE, ON THE, UM, ON THE MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO ANOTHER TRAIL THAT RUNS ROUGHLY PARALLEL TO IT.
AND I'M, I'M JUST THINKING IS, IS THAT BEING BUILT TO REDU TO, UH, CREATE A TRAIL THAT'S NOT A STEEP 'CAUSE IT'S LONGER THAN THE ONE THAT'S NEXT TO IT.
WHY, WHY IS THERE TWO TRAILS NEXT TO EACH OTHER? YEAH, THE, THE, UM, SO GOING WAY BACK TO THE LAND USE PLAN FOR PLEASANTON RIDGE, UM, ADOPTED IN 2012.
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I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT, UM, REASONING BEHIND THIS.I DO KNOW THAT THIS WAS, THIS IS THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE OF A LAND USE PLAN THAT LOOKED AT TRAILS MORE CLOSELY, LOOKING AT OPENING NEW TRAILS, LOOKING AT CLO, RESTORING BOOTLEG TRAILS, LOOKING AT ADOPTING BOOTLEG TRAILS AND DECOMMISSIONING ROADS AND ROAD TO TRAIL CONVERSIONS.
AND WE'VE DONE SOME OF THAT ALREADY.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO REMOVE ROADS FROM OUR PARKS BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ONLY OF EMERGENCY VEHICLE AND MAINTENANCE ACCESS, A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S UTILITIES THAT NEED THAT, LIKE PG E YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF UTILITIES THAT THEY NEED TO ACCESS, ET CETERA.
AND ALSO OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF IS NOT, THEY, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THESE PLACES AS WELL.
SO I I, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S MEANT TO BE A REPLACEMENT, UM, BUT THAT ROAD IS NOT WHAT THE, THIS IS NOT THE RECREATIONAL EXPERIENCE THAT MO MOST ARE LOOKING FOR.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC, UH, INFLUENCE ON THIS PLAN FOR, ESPECIALLY FROM THE BIKING COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO THE, THE, THE RESULTS OF THE, UH, OF THE PLEASANTON RIDGE LAND USE PLAN IS SOME, SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 17 NEW MILES OF TRAIL WITHIN THIS PARK.
IT'S, IT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST ANSWER I CAN GIVE YOU AT THE MOMENT.
BUT I, I I, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, EVEN IF YOU DON'T
YEAH, NO, IT, IT, IT SOUNDS, I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL JUST TO MY, FOR MYSELF, I'LL JUST SAY THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A BETTER, A BETTER TRAIL TO USE THAN WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.
ALMOST BY DEFINITION, WHAT WE WOULD BUILD FROM SCRATCH WOULD BE BETTER THAN WHAT SOME RANCHER DID WITH HIS OWN BULLDOZER IN, IN, IN THE 1940S, YOU KNOW? SO, YEAH.
SO I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS AND, AND, AND SOME NEWS, UM, ON THIS PROJECT,
THEN OUR JOB WAS TO WORK WITH THE RAILROAD TO GET A PERMISSION TO BUILD THIS ALONGSIDE THEIR RAILROAD TRACK.
WE WERE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH MARTINEZ.
WE, UH, SOME GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON OUR FINAL DESIGN PACKAGE TO UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD FOR THE CROSSING, WHICH IS, OH, I'LL BRING THIS UP, THIS CROSSING HERE.
UM, THEY WERE ASKING FOR A LOT OF THINGS HERE, KIND OF THE CADILLAC OF ALL AT GRADE CROSSINGS.
AT GRADE CROSSINGS ARE, ARE THE UNSAFEST TYPE.
AND THIS IS ALSO, THIS SEES ABOUT 60 TO 80 TRAINS PER DAY, AND THE AMTRAK STATION IS RIGHT THERE.
SO THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
THEY'RE ASKING US FOR CROSSWALKS AND SIGNALS AND LIGHTS AND THINGS.
WELL, THEY'VE BACKED AWAY FROM SOME OF THAT, WHICH IS GREAT.
SO IT'S GONNA LOWER SOME COST.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE SUBMITTED SOME DATA TO THEM THAT HAS RELIEVED, UH, THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, CROSSING OF ESA, ET CETERA.
BUT IN OUR, IN OUR, UM, AS WE FEDERALIZED THE PROJECT AND WE ENGAGED WHEN, WHEN IT BECAME FEDERALIZED, WE HAD TO THEN, UM, WHEN UNDER NEPA, AND THEN THAT MEANS WE'RE WORKING WITH CALTRANS.
AND THEY HAVE, THEY'RE, THAT'S ANOTHER REVIEWER IN THE ROOM, RIGHT? AND OF, IN PARTICULAR, UM, THERE'S WHOLE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES IN THIS AREA.
UM, THE RAILROAD ITSELF IS BEING CONSIDERED A CULTURAL, UH, A HISTORIC RESOURCE AND IS PROBABLY GONNA BE ADOPTED AS SUCH, WHICH IS EXTREMELY, IS YEAH, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE ALIGNMENT.
SO, UM, SO THERE'S ISSUES IN THERE, BUT WE'VE ALSO FOUND SOME CULTURAL RESOURCES ON OUR PROPERTY, UM, UH, UM, TO THE, TO THE LEFT THERE ON THE, ON THE SEGMENT THAT'S REALLY ALREADY BEEN BUILT.
SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE SECTION 1 0 6 PROCESS WITH, WITH CALTRANS.
AND, UM, AND THEN THE DESIGN PROCESS OF THE TRAIL ITSELF WITH UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD.
AND, UM, WE THINK WE'RE GETTING CLOSE.
WE'VE MOVED IT AS FAR AWAY AS WE CAN.
UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE COME DOWN, THERE'S A BRIDGE THAT WE BUILT, UH, THAT MARTINEZ BUILT YEARS AGO THAT'S JUST WAITING TO HAVE A TRAIL CONNECT TO IT.
AND THEN, UH, WE GO BEHIND THEIR SIGNAL CABINETS.
BUT THERE'S THESE PINCH POINTS OVER HERE.
THIS ENTIRE SITE IS EXTREMELY FLAT.
ALL THE WATER RUSHING DOWN FROM THESE HILLS POOLS ALONGSIDE THE TRACKS, RIGHT? WHERE WE WANT TO BUILD OUR TRAIL.
SO THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT PORTION TO DESIGN, UM, FOR OUR ENGINEERS.
AND, UM, SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OVER THERE BY THAT ORANGE CONE.
UM, AND UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD DOES NOT WANT WATER TO GO NEAR THEIR BALLAST BECAUSE IT COULD SETTLE IT AND FOUL IT.
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TRYING TO DESIGN HERE IS A TRAIL THAT'S A LEVEE THAT ISN'T GONNA ALSO GET DAMAGED BY THIS WATER.SO THE, I'M, I'M ONLY POINTING THIS OUT BECAUSE THIS COULD BECOME A BIG ISSUE WITH UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD, AND IT AL DRAINAGE IS ALREADY THEIR MAIN CONCERN BESIDES SAFETY.
SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE SOME DESIGN WORK TO DO ON THIS, AND, UM, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, IF SOMEBODY SAID, OH, JUST BUILD A BOARDWALK, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT'S NOW PUTTING THE PROJECT IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT COST CATEGORY.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO START ASKING OURSELVES WHAT WE WANNA SPEND FOR WHAT BENEFIT WE'RE GETTING AND WHETHER WE'RE THE ONES THAT SPEND THAT.
UM, SO, UM, I, I DON'T MEAN TO BRING ANY BAD NEWS.
THIS, THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD.
CCTA IS, IS, UH, TAKING OVER MANAGEMENT OF IT AS SOON AS WE CAN FINISH QUA AND NEPA AND, UM, PERMITTING, AND THEY'RE STILL WAITING TO RECEIVE IT.
UM, BUT, UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES.
AND SO WHEN YOU SEE DELAYS AND IT'S NOT HAPPENING FAST ENOUGH, OR THEN YOU MAY KNOW WHY.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YEAH, I THOUGHT SO.
SO, UH, MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT BASED ON EXISTING MEANING MAYBE SOME POINT IN THE PAST ESTIMATES OF COSTS, WE WERE CLOSE TO BEING FULLY FUNDED ON THIS PROJECT.
FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE NOT FULLY FUNDED AND WHAT, SO WHAT ARE NOW THE COST ESTIMATES? NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT THIS, AT THIS STAGE, WE ACTUALLY ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO BEING FULLY FUNDED IF THEY APPROVE THIS DESIGN.
IF THEY SUGGEST, HOWEVER, THAT OUR DESIGN IMPACTS DRAINAGE AND THAT THEY WON'T APPROVE IT, OR THAT WE HAVE TO SAY, UPGRADE THEIR CULVERT UNDER THEIR TRACKS, IT'S BEEN BLOCKED FOR 20 YEARS.
UM, THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, AND THAT'S PREVENTING THEM FROM FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THEIR OBLIGATION, UH, WITH THE MOU THAT WE HAVE FROM 2016.
AND SO THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE, I'VE BROUGHT UP WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM BRIEFLY, BUT NOT IN IN DEPTH, BUT JUST PUTTING, PUTTING EVERYONE ON NOTICE THAT, UM, UNION PACIFIC ASKS FOR EVERYTHING AND THEY WON'T APPROVE OUR PLANS IF, IF IT'S IMPACTING THEIR, THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I'M AT THIS POINT WORRIED ABOUT THIS, JUST THIS PROJECT BEING RENDERED UNVIABLE OR INVI, WHATEVER THE WORD IS, NOT VIABLE.
UH, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF THE RAILROAD PROVES, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, COMES UP WITH A DEMANDS THAT ARE UNWORKABLE, UM, HAVE, HAVE WE EVER STUDIED ALTERNATIVES JUST USING THE STREET? WELL, THERE IS SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN TO THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT IS POSSIBLY AN OPTION, UM, TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE DIFFERENT RIGHT OF WAY.
BUT THAT AGAIN, THAT'S A COST.
AND THAT'S, UM, ANOTHER DELAY.
UM, I, WELL YEARS, I KNOW, YEAH, BUT THIS, THIS MIGHT JUST NOT HAPPEN.
WE DO HAVE DESIGNED, UM, DRAINAGE DITCHES AND, UM, TRAPEZOIDAL CHANNELS TO, TO POOL THIS WATER AS OF RIGHT NOW.
AND IF WE CAN SHOW THAT THE CAPACITY OF THE FLOOD WATERS COMING INTO THIS AREA CAN BE, UM, HELD WITHIN THOSE CHANNELS AND STILL ALLOW UP ACCESS, WE COULD BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM, THE BALL'S IN THEIR COURT AT THIS POINT.
SO I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM, UH, ON, ON THEIR RESPONSE IF IT'S REASONABLE OR NOT.
I HAVE TO BE, I'M, I, I'M SURE MY BOSS IS GONNA KICK ME FOR EVEN BRINGING IT UP, BUT THESE ARE CHALLENGES THAT WE DEAL WITH.
UM, AND THIS PROJECT, NO, IT SHOULD, IS, IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT SITES TO DESIGN A, A PROJECT WITHIN.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? I, I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE YOU MOVE ON.
ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO? UM, SO AT THE RISK OF
I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO TRY TO ANSWER THAT WITHOUT, BUT FAIR ENOUGH.
I'LL JUST, I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE AND, UM, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT TODAY, BUT, UM, DEFINITELY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT COULD BE A REALLY BIG DEAL.
I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS IS THE SAME, BUT I KNOW SUNOL, NILES RAILROAD IS, IT HAS A HISTORIC UHHUH DESIGNATION AND IT'S CONSIDERED A MOVING MUSEUM OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE
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LINES.I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE THE SAME DESIGNATION OR NOT, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING OF COMPARISON.
POSSIBLY IT, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY IF IT'S A GOOD COMPARISON, BUT THE NILES CANYON RAILWAY IS ACTUALLY THE HISTORIC ALIGNMENT OF THE TRANSCONTINENTAL RAILROAD.
SO THAT IS QUITE PROTECTED AND IS A HISTORIC RESOURCE.
I'M NOT SURE AT WHAT LEVEL, IF THERE'S VARIOUS LEVELS, AND IF THIS IS AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL THAN THAT OR NOT.
I, MY GUESS IS THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT THE SAME.
BUT, UM, I THINK ANNAMARIE OUR, OUR CULTURAL RESOURCES, UH, COORDINATOR, UH, AND I WILL BE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD FROM CALTRANS.
SO, UM, JUST SOME RFPS THAT WE'RE RELEASING, UH, WE HAVE WRITTEN, WE'RE JUST WAITING TO, UH, FIT IT INTO OUR WORKLOAD, THE IRON HORSE TRAIL FROM MARSH DRIVE TO M HK DRIVE.
UH, WE WANNA RELEASE THAT RFP FOUR DESIGN AND, UM, AND CON AND FULL DESIGN AND PERMITTING AND SQA FOR THIS.
THERE'S, UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A THREE MILE PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT.
THERE'S THREE MILES LEFT TO BUILD TO GET TO BENICIA BRIDGE.
I'LL ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT HERE.
UM, THE CURRENT TERMINUS IS AT MARSH DRIVE.
THE COUNTY FINISHED THEIR BRIDGE.
WE HAVE THE TRAIL ACROSS THAT.
UM, AND JUST WAITING FOR THIS, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO EXTEND THE TRAIL TO A LOGICAL TERMINUS, WHICH WE'VE DETERMINED TO BE, UH, M HOF DRIVE, UM, IN THE NEXT, UH, FIVE YEARS SINCE THE COMPLETION OF THE BRIDGE.
UH, MOST OF IT IS ON AN EXISTING FLOOD CONTROLLED LEVEE ROAD.
UH, IT GOES UNDER HIGHWAY FOUR, AND WE'RE, UM, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THAT THIS YEAR.
UM, AND MH HAS SOME BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE ON IT, HAS SOME BIKE LANES.
UM, AND SO WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO STOP IT FOR NOW AND NOT CREATE A DEAD END, UM, YOU KNOW, UNHOUSED CORRIDOR, WHICH IT ALREADY IS.
UM, SO WE, WE, WE THINK THIS IS THE BEST CHOICE, AND WE HAVE, WE HOPE THAT THE 1.6 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IN A FUND THAT'S BEEN, UH, A MITIGATION FROM FUND FROM THE TOCO REFINERY WHEN THEY CLOSED THE PORT CHICAGO HIGHWAY, OR I'M SORRY, WATERFRONT ROAD TO WITH THE REFINERY, UM, THEY, THEY, UH, MITIGATE IT WITH SOME FUNDING.
SO WE, WE HOPE WE HAVE ENOUGH TO, UM, DESIGN AND BUILD THIS SECTION.
AND THEN, UM, CALVERS RIDGE TRAIL, WE HAVE AN RFP READY.
UH, WE, UM, NOT AN RFP, I'M SORRY.
WE HAVE A SCOPE WRITTEN FOR, UM, CQA COVERAGE ON THIS.
WE HAVE AN ON-CALL SQL CONTRACT IN PLANNING, AND WE'RE HOPING TO USE ONE OF THOSE, UM, CONTRACTORS.
WE'VE, WE'VE GIVEN THEM THE SCOPE AND WE'RE WAITING FOR SOME, SOME, UH, COST ESTIMATES BACK.
BUT WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE GOTTEN ALL OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE NEED, UM, IF YOU'LL RECALL, THE EAST BAY MUD, UH, CANCELED THE LICENSE AGREEMENT THAT LAFAYETTE HAD WITH THEM FOR A PORTION OF THE TRAIL ACROSS THEIR LITTLE, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THIS, IT'S LITTLE FISH, THIS, THIS RESERVOIR PROPERTY HERE.
ANYWAY, UM, SO WE, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, UM, ON THIS, ON THIS SIDE, AND, UM, GAVE RE-RECORD AN EASEMENT AROUND.
AND THEN THE GOLDWIN FAMILY HAS, UM, AGREED TO DONATE THIS EASEMENT TO US, UH, AT NO COST.
UM, AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET SE GET THROUGH CQA AND BUILD THE SECTIONS THAT AREN'T ALREADY ON ROADS.
SO ONCE, ONCE WE, UH, ONCE WE, WHOOPS, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS PERMITTING PROCESS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I JUST DID.
I MIGHT NEED YOUR HELP THOUGH,
CAN YOU SEE IT BETTER? THANK YOU.
UM, THIS ONE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY IN DIRECTOR ROSARIO'S WARD, UH, WHO I'M JUST NOTICED HE'S NOT HERE.
UM, AND, UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE.
UM, IT DOES INCLUDE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT IN LAND BANK, IT'S SHOWS SHOWN US PARKLAND.
IT'S CALLED THE DESILVA PIECE.
UM, LITTLE, IT'S TOTALLY LANDLOCKED.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT ONCE WE DO ALLOW PEOPLE INTO IT, THIS IS WHAT THEY'LL GET.
AND, UM, IT'S ONE OF THE BEST KEPT SECRETS.
I HESITATE TO BUILD A TRAIL THERE.
UM, NO, SERIOUSLY, IT'S GONNA BE GREAT.
AND I THINK THIS IS MOSTLY GOING TO BE USED BY THE EQUESTRIAN COMMUNITY IN THIS AREA.
SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT OUT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE, UM, RECEIVED, I THINK IT'S STILL ZOOMED IN A LITTLE, BUT, UM, IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE HAVE MONEY TO, UM, ANALYZE THE WILDCAT FLOW TRAIL, UM, UNDER CQA.
AND WE'RE, UM, PREPARING THAT RFP NOW.
AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO RUN A FEW MORE STUDIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT, UM, GOOD
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COVERAGE ON OUR PLANT SPECIES.WE HAVE HIRED, UM, POINT STRATEGIES, UM, TO COME UP WITH SOME DESIGN ALTERNATIVES WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR.
AND THEN WE HAVE THEM LOOK AT SOME OF THE CIRCULATION AND SOME OTHER AREAS THAT WE WILL, UM, ADDRESS THOSE ALTERNATIVES IN THAT SE A DOCUMENT.
AND, UM, I THINK THIS, THIS RFP SHOULD GO OUT WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, AND WE HOPE TO, UH, WE HOPE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS DONE UNDER A YEAR.
AND WE'LL KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
WE'RE DOING A SQA ANALYSIS ON THAT PARTICULAR, UM, ALIGNMENT AND VARIATIONS OF THAT ALIGNMENT.
THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE SUBMITTED NORMAN'S HERE.
I MEAN, THERE WAS A SIERRA CLUB AND, AND, UH, NATIVE PLANTS.
THERE WAS A VERY, UH, DISTINCT ALTERNATIVE, IF MY MEMORY'S CORRECT, UH, ALIGNED AROUND ALVARADO MORE.
AND, UH, SEVERAL OF US SUGGESTED AT THE TIME THAT THAT DESERVED SIGNIFICANT STUDY AS WE PROVIDED SIGNIFICANT STUDY OF, UH, THE BICYCLE COUNCIL'S PROPOSAL THAT THIS DEPICTS.
UM, SO I USE THE WORD ALARM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS PROCESS IS, MAYBE I'M, YOU CAN CORRECT ME, BUT THIS PROCESS IS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT AND GIVING SERIOUS STUDY AND ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENT OF THAT ALTERNATIVE SUGGESTION.
SO THE, A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THIS ALIGNMENT.
AND THE STUDY, WE TYPICALLY DO NOT DO THAT LEVEL OF STUDY FOR ALTERNATIVES.
THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND OUR PREFERRED ALIGNMENT IS, IS THIS ONE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO BE ANALYZED UNDER QUA AT THIS POINT.
WE, UM, WELL FIRST OF ALL, LET BACK UP.
THERE'S ALMOST, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPACTED WHEREVER WE CHOOSE TO BUILD A TRAIL.
AND SO WE, WE, WE HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS AS WHY NOT OVER THERE? WHY NOT OVER THERE INTERNALLY? WHY NOT? WHY, WHY HERE, HOW ABOUT OVER THERE? AND EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK, THERE'S SOME, SOME ISSUE.
AND THE ALVARADO AREA IS OF PARTICULAR CONCERN TO US BECAUSE IT IS, IT HAS A LOT OF CULTURAL RESOURCES OVER THERE.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT PALEONTOLOGICAL AS WELL.
AND SO, BUILDING IN THAT AREA, MEETING OUR GOALS, THERE'S LESS ROOM, UM, AND POSSIBLY OTHER IMPACTS TO PLANT SPECIES AND, AND WHIP SNAKE HABITAT.
AND SO WE, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE AND LOOK AT ELSEWHERE, BUT WE ARE NOT, AT THIS POINT PLANNING TO DO A RIGOROUS LEVEL OF STUDY OF, OF THOSE OTHER AREAS.
WELL, SO MY RESPONSE IS, AT THE TIME, I'M JUST ONE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVEN OF US, AND I'M JUST ONE.
AND AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS ALIGNMENT, UH, I TOOK THE POSITION THAT I'D LIKE A RIGOROUS STUDY OF A, OF AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS ALIGNMENT OR VARIATIONS OF THIS ALIGNMENT IF ONE WERE SUBMITTED, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THOSE WHO WERE CRITICAL OF THE WAY THIS WAS ALL HANDLED, UM, DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE AND HAVE IT RIGOROUSLY STUDIED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST ONE, BUT I WOULD OPPOSE GOING FORWARD WITH THIS UNTIL THAT IS DONE, JUST IN MY, MY PERSONAL JUDGMENT ON IT.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, SEAN, JUST TO BE FAIR, I, I TOOK THAT POSITION LONG AGO.
SO, I MEAN, THIS ISN'T A NEW BOARD MEMBER SUGGESTING SOMETHING TO THROW A WRENCH INTO IT.
I WAS V VERY CLEAR IN THAT POSITION, AND I, I THINK I HEARD IT FROM DIRECTOR,
BRIAN HOLT, CHIEF OF PLANNING TRAILS, GIS UM, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE, WITH THE, THE PROPOSALS THAT CAME FROM, UH, SIERRA CLUB, NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY AND, AND OTHERS.
WE HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THOSE.
UM, WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT EACH OF THE ALTERNATIVES IN COMPARISON TO THIS.
AND REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT PROJECTS, RIGHT? DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT PROJECT OBJECTIVES WOULD SERVE A COMPLETELY, ENTIRELY DIFFERENT USE THAN WHAT THIS TRAIL PROPOSES.
SO THIS TRAIL IS THE, THE PROJECT THAT'S BEFORE US, AND OF COURSE IT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION.
IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, IT WOULDN'T BE, IT'D BE KIND OF APPLES AND ORANGES TO SAY, WELL, LET'S JUST DO THIS PROJECT OVER AT ALVARADO.
REALLY AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT AND THAT WOULD SERVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF USER.
SO WOULDN'T REALLY SERVE THE SAME PROJECT OBJECTIVES OR
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THE SAME DEMAND THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THIS, IN THIS LOCATION.SO WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN THE POSITION THAT, UM, REALLY, IT, IT, IT, IT COULD BE, I MEAN, THE BOARD COULD DECIDE, WELL, WE COULD DO THAT PROJECT AND THIS PROJECT, OR WE DO THAT PROJECT AND NOT THIS PROJECT, OR WE DO NOTHING AT ALL.
UM, SO I GUESS JUST TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AND TO, UM, TO MEET YOUR NEEDS REGARDING, UH, UH, UNDERSTANDING THE ALTERNATIVES, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UM, YOU, UH, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE AND MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS.
WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR STEWARDSHIP DEPARTMENT, OUR CULTURAL RESOURCES GROUP, OTHERS, THAT REALLY, IF THERE'S ANY PLACE FOR US TO DO THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT, IT'S REALLY IN THIS LOCATION.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, IT'S THE BOARD'S DISCRETION IF THIS IS THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE.
UM, BUT REALLY WE NEED THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE COULD ALSO COME BACK WITH A, WITH A DISCUSSION ON KIND OF THE, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BIKE FACILITIES OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF BIKE TRAILS AND WHAT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
UM, SO, UH, THE, THE SORT OF DOWNHILL FLOW TRAIL EXPERIENCE THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED HERE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED AT ALVARADO.
UM, OR, OR AT SIBLEY QUARRY, WHICH WAS ALSO SUGGESTED, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MORE AKIN TO A, TO A BIKE PARK, WHICH AGAIN, MIGHT BE A, A DESIRABLE TYPE OF FACILITY, BUT, UM, REALLY APPLES AND ORANGES.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AS STAFF.
AND ALL THAT I SUPPORT AND I BASICALLY SUPPORT A TRAIL HERE.
AND I'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TRAIL, AND I WENT OUTTA MY WAY TO SUPPORT THE PROCESS, UM, DESPITE THE CRITICISM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT.
AND THAT WAS, THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW AND HAVE AT LEAST FOR MY INFORMATION.
AND AGAIN, I'M JUST ONE, UM, BEFORE I SUPPORTED THIS WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING.
THIS ONE IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRAIL IN THIS ONE.
THIS ONE HAS SOME CULTURAL RESOURCE.
THIS ONE IS NOT AS, UM, STRAIGHTFORWARD AND, AND AS, UH, BENEFICIAL AS, AS THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
I INVITE AND WOULD ENJOY ALL THAT CONVERSATION.
I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE I SAW VOTE TO PROCEED WITH AN EXPENSIVE STUDY OF THIS ONE.
UM, I, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT AS PART OF A, YOU KNOW, A A AN EFFORT TO GET APPROVAL FOR THIS PROCESS.
AND AS PART OF THAT CA PROCESS, OH, WE'VE STUDIED THESE ALTERNATIVES.
I WOULD RATHER HAVE A STUDY THE ALTERNATIVE AND HAVE A FULL-BLOWN DISCUSSION AT THE BOARD LEVEL OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES, RATHER THAN DO IT AS PART OF THAT CQA PROCESS WITH THAT TRAIL.
I WOULD INVITE THAT DISCUSSION AND ALL THE DISTINCTIONS YOU'RE MAKING.
I WOULD JUST PERSONALLY LIKE TO HAVE THAT PRESENTATION AT THIS LEVEL BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A, A THANK YOU DIRECTOR COFFEE.
I THINK THAT'S A, A REASONABLE PROPOSAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, IF WE WERE TO BRING THIS FORWARD WITH THE CA ANALYSIS THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN THERE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THE SAME LEVEL OF CA ANALYSIS THAT'S, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO AN EIR FOR FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
UM, JUST WITH THE INTENT OF ONLY SELECTING ONE.
SO, UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S ENTIRELY REASONABLE TO UNDERSTAND EACH OF THE ALTERNATIVES BEFORE, BEFORE VOTING ON THIS.
AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AT, UM, AT BRINGING FORWARD JUST SORT OF A DISCUSSION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BIKE FACILITIES ARE THAT WE GET REQUESTS ON AND, AND WHERE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE FEASIBLE AND REALLY, FRANKLY, WHERE THEY'RE APPROPRIATE.
'CAUSE THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT SHOULD PERHAPS OTHER AGENCIES OR CITIES BE PROVIDING VERSUS THE PARK DISTRICT? I DESCRIBE MY, MY INTEREST, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.
I, I, I DO THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT THE ALTERNATIVES ARE.
AND I APPRECIATE WHAT SEAN SAID ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY LOOK AT THAT ALVARADO PATH THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUE WITH SOME OTHER CULTURAL RESOURCES THERE.
AND, UM, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER.
SO I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A, A DISCUSSION, UM, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T HAVE TO CAUSE A BIG DELAY.
I, YOU KNOW, I, IF YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT PRELIMINARY WORK OR, OR IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO IT.
BUT, UM, IT WOULD JUST BE HELPFUL TO, TO AGAIN, UNDERSTAND THE ALTERNATIVE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FULL, FULL CQA, UH, REVIEW OF THE OTHER ONE.
I'M SEEING HEADS NODS, SO I'LL, I'LL LOOK TO KEN AND OUR GENERAL MANAGER, BUT, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
DID I HEAR YOU JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS THAT COULD BE OFFERED BY OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN
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CITIES? IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? OR WAS I THINKING YOU SAID THAT? WELL, I THINK ONE OF, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT STAFF IS HAVING, BECAUSE WE DO RECEIVE, WE RECEIVE LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR, UM, FOR DEVELOPING, UH, BIKE FACILITIES.OF COURSE THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST, AND IT'S NOT JUST BIKE FACILITIES.
YOU COULD, COULD USE A WHOLE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES, WHETHER IT'S FRISBEE, GOLF, OR BASKETBALL OR, OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF A FACILITY IS APPROPRIATE WITHIN EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT LAND VERSUS, UH, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS WHAT SHOULD BE ACCOMMODATED BY CITIES OR, OR OTHER AGENCIES.
UM, SO, UH, SO SOME OF THESE FACILITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT SEE AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE CITY COMMUNITY PARKLAND NEXT TO REGIONAL PARKLAND.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING AT THE STAFF LEVEL IS, WELL, PERHAPS THAT BIKE ACCESS COULD BE OR SHOULD BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN CITY PARKLAND, UM, VERSUS THE MORE, YOU KNOW, NATURAL OR PROTECTED PARKLANDS THAT WE MIGHT OPERATE.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THAT'S THE CASE IN THIS SITUATION.
IT MAY BE, I'M NOT, NOT NECESSARILY STATING THAT.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE HAD KIND OF, UM, UH, SAW SOME OF THE PROPOSALS FOR, UM, FOR, UH, UH, LANGUAGE ABOUT ESTABLISHING A BIKE PARK.
IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, UM, SAY LIKE THE PLEASANTON UH, THE JUMP PARK OVER IN PLEASANTON, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO WITHIN OUR PARKLANDS.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, BUT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR FROM, YOU MEAN THE BMX PARK, RIGHT? THAT'S NEXT TO SHADOW PLACE.
AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR FROM CYCLISTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PERHAPS DO SOME OF THAT.
UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME LOCATIONS THAT, THAT WE DO LOOK AT THAT WE HAVE HAD THE OYSTER BAY BIKE PARK, UH, PROPOSAL, UM, ON THE TABLE FOR SOME TIME.
SO THERE MIGHT BE PLACES WHERE THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
BUT, UH, AGAIN, I THINK THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IS, UM, AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS, WHICH IS A SORT OF DOWNHILL TRAIL, NARROW TRAIL EXPERIENCE, UM, ONE DIRECTIONAL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAIN PLACES THAT YOU CAN DO THAT.
AND, UH, AND IDENTIFYING A CERTAIN LOCATION WHERE IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A BIKE TRACK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT ACCOMPLISHING THE SAME THING THAT THE USERS ARE SEEKING FROM THIS EXPERIENCE, THAT'S WHERE IT'S KIND OF APPLES AND ORANGES.
AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT JUST FROM A BIGGER, BROADER, AND GENERAL PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT MAYBE OUR CONVERSATION AFTER WE GET THROUGH, UM, THE PREPARED, UH, SLIDES AND PRESENTATIONS, IT'S JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW WE INTERACT WITH, YOU KNOW, CITIES AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONNECTING POINTS.
IN FACT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEXT TO THAT BMX BIKE PARK THAT YOU REFERENCE A SHADOW CLIFFS, THERE'S ALSO A WALKING TRAIL THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO OUR WALKING TRAILS AT SHADOW CLIFFS.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, CONNECTIONS.
SO, SO THAT ONE EXISTS TODAY, BUT THERE'S OTHER PLACES WHERE MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CONNECTIONS THAT EXIST TODAY.
SO HOW WE WORK WITH THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
I'M JUST SAYING THIS FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE WHEN WE GET TO OUR DISCUSSION.
AND, UM, COMMENTS NOTED, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS AT STAFF ABOUT HOW WE CAN MOVE THAT, THAT CONVERSATION FORWARD.
UM, YEAH, UM, THOSE, THOSE ARE THE PROJECT UPDATES I HAVE.
UM, AS I, AS I MENTIONED WITH, JUST TO CLOSE THIS OUT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVE PROPOSED SO MANY TRAIL PROJECTS OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, AND MANY OF THEM GET SHOT DOWN.
UH, WHEN WE'RE ANALYZING THESE AND WE HAVE OVERANALYZED THIS, WE ARE SEEING THAT THERE ARE REALLY NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS THUS FAR.
AND SO THE, THE NOTION OF GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND LOOK LIKE IF WE WOULD'VE FOUND SOMETHING THAT WAS, THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, THEN THAT SORT OF TRIGGERS, HEY, LET'S GO LOOK ELSEWHERE, THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT HERE.
AND SO THE QUESTION THAT MY ME AND MY STAFF HAVE IS, WHY WOULD WE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE IF THIS IS LOOKING LIKE A GOOD SPOT? SO, UM, THAT IS ALL I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT.
WE, WE HEAR YOU AND WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY ABOUT HOW WE CAN, UM, ADDRESS THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS I HAVE, UM, TO, BUT THERE ARE 20 HERE OR 19.
IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT PROJECTS THAT YOU SAW IN THE PACKET, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT NOW.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET, UM, GET THE LAST TWO SLIDES DONE, AND THEN I'LL BRING UP ROBERTS, UH, KENNEDY TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
OSBY, OH, I, I, I WAS GONNA LET YOU GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR LAST ONE, SEAN, IF THAT'S OKAY.
THEN I'LL HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE YOU PODIUM.
DID I STOP? CAN I DO A NEW SHARE? HOW THAT WORKS?
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YES.OKAY, SO JUST TO GO WITH THE THEME OF CONTROVERSIAL AND COMPLICATED PROJECTS, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BRIANNA'S PILOT PROJECT, SHALL WE? UM, THE, OKAY.
SO WE HAD A GREAT UPDATE BACK IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER AND, UM, RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK.
WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF PUBLIC SURVEY INPUT, UM, A LOT OF CONTINUOUS, UM, INFORMATION COMING FROM THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY ON THIS.
WE'VE MET WITH EQUESTRIAN COMMUNITIES AND THE STABLES AROUND THE AREA.
OF COURSE, WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH, UM, THE LOCAL BIKING COMMUNITY.
UH, WE, WE ARE, UM, AGAIN, REMINDING YOU THAT THIS, THIS WAS MEANT TO BE A TWO YEAR STUDY AND, UM, THE, THE, THE PILOT ZONE ON THE RIGHT HERE IS, UM, WHAT TOOK A LOT TO COME UP WITH AND TRY TO FIND A BALANCE IN HERE.
AND THIS, WE'VE, WE'VE DEPLOYED ALMOST 20 CAMERAS AND COUNTERS.
WE'RE COLLECTING DATA IN THIS AREA, AND WE ARE STARTING TO SEE TRENDS AND, AND COMPLIANCE RATES ACTUALLY GO UP.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE MONITORING THAT AND WE THINK THAT AFTER, UM, THIS SEASON, UM, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON WHETHER OR NOT WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT ISN'T AND WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO TRY ELSEWHERE IN THE PARK DISTRICT.
UM, WE ARE PLANNING A COMMUNITY MEETING, SOME PROBABLY LATE MAY, I DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR YOU YET.
UM, ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, MEETING AT ALHAMBRA CREEK STAGING AREA OR BY, AT THE PICNIC AREA THERE, INVITING AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN.
UM, AND, AND COLLECTING MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
AND ALSO EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY, UM, OUT THERE.
UM, AS WE ENTER THIS NEXT SUMMER, UM, WE, WE WANT TO HAVE SOME TABLE, SOME MORE TABLING, NOT AS, NOT AS RIGOROUS AS WHEN WE STARTED, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE, UM, SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEER TRAIL SAFETY PATROL OUT THERE WITH TABLES AND, AND CATCHING FOLKS.
WHAT WE'VE FOUND, UM, AND I'LL GET INTO SOME OF THIS DATA, BUT WHAT WE'VE FOUND IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE OF THE AREA THAT MAY OR MAY NOT REALLY ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WHICH IS SEEN.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS.
UM, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND HERE, THEY GET IT NOW, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S THE FOLKS THAT HEAR ABOUT THIS AND COME HERE THAT, SO WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE BETTER COMMUNICATE OR HAVE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME VOLUNTEER EVENTS AGAIN THIS YEAR, SOME RESTORATION EVENTS.
THE RESTORATION IS HOLDING UP.
WE SEE THE DATA, UM, AND IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CONTINUALLY VISIT THESE SITES TO SEE.
AND THEN THIS FALL, WE'RE GONNA RELEASE ANOTHER COMMUNITY SURVEY, KIND OF A CLOSE OUT, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, QUESTIONNAIRE FOR FOLKS AND, AND, UM, GET, GET SOME FEEDBACK TO MOVE FORWARD AS WE GO POST PILOT PROJECT AND WE DETERMINE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS AREA AND THE REST OF THE PARK MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THIS PARK IS ONE OF THE TRAILS, ONE OF THE PARKS IN THE TRAILS INVENTORY.
AND, UM, AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, AND THEN ON DECEMBER 4TH, 2024, UH, AT BOARD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, WE'LL PRESENT SOME OF THESE FINDINGS AND, AND SOME OF OUR IDEAS TO, TO THE, THE COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO SUNSET THIS PILOT PROJECT.
UM, THE TECHNICAL SUNSET DATA IS REALLY APRIL OF 2025, BUT WE WANT TO BE, HAVE TIME TO SORT OF ANALYZE THE DATA, COME UP WITH SOME OTHER SOLUTIONS, TAKE IN SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING BEFORE AND DURING THE, THE PILOT.
UM, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY RULE CHANGES.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE ODD EVEN DAYS.
WE ARE CHANGING SOME SIGNAGE AND SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE COUNTERS AND SOME OF THE, UM, MESSAGING.
UH, BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE GLOBAL CHANGES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT, WE'VE JUST DETERMINED THAT IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF WORK.
THE MESSAGING, THE MAPS WOULD ALL HAVE TO CHANGE THE SIGNAGE.
AND SO WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA RIDE IT OUT FOR TWO YEARS AS WE, AS WE WERE COMMITTED TO, UM, IN THE BEGINNING.
AND, UH, WE CAN, WE'LL, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THE MEETING IS IN MAY.
AND, UM, AND OF COURSE YOU'LL HEAR, HEAR MORE IN DECEMBER.
UM, YOU, YOU MENTIONED FEEDBACK, AND I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE SURVEY ON OUR WEBSITE, THAT WAS ONE MECHANISM FOR FEEDBACK, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY SORT OF FORM, AND I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST, I'M ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW, THE EAST BAY PARKS WEBSITE FOR THE BRIANNA'S PILOT PROJECT.
DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO GO ON THIS WEBSITE AND BE ABLE TO SUBMIT A FEEDBACK COMMENT AND THEN WE HAVE IT AUTOMATICALLY TAGGED AS PART OF THE PILOT PROJECT? OR IS SOMEONE ON THE BACKEND HERE AT THE PARK DISTRICT STILL SIFTING THROUGH THAT? YEAH, WE HAVE A BRIANA'S PILOT PROJECT@EBPARKS.ORG.
AND WE, I SEE CONTINUOUSLY SEEING THAT.
UM, WE ALSO, UM, WE, THERE'S A SUBMIT A FORM TO, YOU CAN SUBMIT A COMMENT FORM THROUGH THAT OR ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
THE, THOSE COMMENTS, I WILL SAY THEY'VE, THEY'VE GONE DOWN, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AT ENGAGING WITH AT LEAST THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE AND, AND THINGS.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN, HAVE
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YOU TRIED TO CLICK THE LINK? IS IT HOPEFULLY WORKINGI DON'T SEE THE FORM RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M ALSO NOT LOOKING SUPER CLOSE 'CAUSE I'M ALSO TRYING TO OKAY.
THERE'S, BUT, BUT MY OTHER COMMENT, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU MADE A COMMENT, SO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEAR THE PARK ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PILOT PROJECT PROCESS, BUT IT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE MAYBE DON'T LIVE AS CLOSE TO THE PARK, MAYBE ARE COMING TO THE PARK WHO HAVE LESS FAMILIARITY, BUT MAY ALSO HAVE FEEDBACK, UM, THAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IN THE PROCESS.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TRACKING AS WE'RE GETTING COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, WHO MAYBE THE PROXIMITY TO THE PARK WOULD BE ONE METRIC TO TRY TO KEEP TRACK OF.
I I, I KNOW WHEN I HEAR FROM THE MOUNTAIN BIKING COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE TRI-VALLEY REGION, THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PILOT PROJECT AND I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE GOING, ARE TAKING THEIR BIKES HERE JUST TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEIR FEEDBACK'S MAKING IT BACK TO US, BUT I I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE MAKING AN EFFORT TO GO HERE JUST TO SEE WHAT WE ARE DOING.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA SPACE, UM, THE, THE GROUP, THE BRI, THE STEWARDS OF BRIANA'S, UM, AND OTHER THE BAMB BE AREA, MOUNTAIN BIKE, UM, GROUP, UM, THEY, THEY HAVE THOUSANDS OF FOLLOWERS AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHATTER IN THERE ABOUT THIS.
AND WE'VE, WE FOLLOW THAT AND WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND A AND WE, WE HEAR OF A LOT OF THINGS TOO IN THERE.
UM, BUT THERE'S, IT, THIS HAS REALLY TAKEN ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN IN THE, IN THE WAY THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS REALLY EMBRACED THIS, ESPECIALLY THE STEWARDS OF BRIAN'S.
AND THEY'RE NOW, THE, THE BIKING COMMUNITY APPEARS TO BE SORT OF LOOKING TO THEM, UH, AS LIKE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S THE NEW THING? LIKE, AND, AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE MORE OR LESS THE MIDDLE MEN, IF YOU WILL, AND, AND HELPING MANAGE THIS, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE SHOOTING FOR WITH THE BIKING COMMUNITY AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE AIM TO DO.
UM, AND THE REST OF THE DISTRICT IS HAVE THEMSELVES POLICE THEMSELVES TO, TO, TO, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSTANTLY BE DOING THAT.
SO, UM, AND, AND SO, UM, BUT YES, WE ARE GETTING THE FEEDBACK THROUGH THE EMAIL AND THROUGH THE WEBSITE.
UM, AND WE, WE CONTINUOUSLY DO, SO I KNOW IT'S WORKING OKAY.
BUT YEAH, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA RELEASE ANOTHER SURVEY AND, UM, TABLING, ET CETERA, AND, AND DO ANOTHER SORT OF INFORMATIONAL BLAST IN THE SPRING BEFORE THE SUMMER COUNCIL.
AND THEN REAL QUICK, WHAT ABOUT FEEDBACK FROM OTHER, I GUESS, FENCE LINE NEIGHBORS? I HEARD YOU USE THAT AT OUR RETREAT.
I LIKE, I LIKE THAT DESCRIPTION.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT LIVE NEAR THESE PARKS MIGHT HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIKING COMMUNITY.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE RECEIVING THAT FEEDBACK AND HOW I, I GUESS I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
I, I KNOW I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF THE FENCE LINE NEIGHBORS AT DELVAL, AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FEEDBACK IN REGARDS TO MOUNTAIN BIKE RIDERS IN THAT PARK.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S EVEN SOMEHOW BEING CAPTURED RIGHT NOW AS PART OF THIS PILOT PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS PILOT PROJECT, BUT YOU KNOW, HOW WE MIGHT APPLY WHAT WE'RE LEARNING HERE TO OTHER PARKS, UM, I GUESS IS REALLY OUR NEXT PHASE AND OUR NEXT STEPS.
THIS IS MORE OF JUST A COMMENT THAT I'M SHARING, BUT I I, I THINK THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
OH, UH, SO THIS TIME I WANNA PRAISE YOUR PROCESS IN THE, IN THAT I'M VERY, UM, PLEASED TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE PROACTIVE AND NOT JUST WAIT TILL NEXT APRIL, UH, OR APRIL 25 TO BRING US A BUNCH OF FINDINGS AND INSTEAD BE PROACTIVE IN, UM, WHAT BRINGING US WHAT'S EMERGING AS SUCCESS AND, AND POTENTIAL FAILURES OF THE PROJECT AND THE TEST AND ALL THAT.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, AND THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING THIS AND, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA WAIT TILL APRIL 25.
SO I APPRECIATE, I JUST WANNA REITERATE ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT I'M HOPING YOU ALL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS YOU LOOK AT, UM, HOW, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF, WE'VE NEVER COME UP WITH BETTER FOR, UH, WORDING FOR THIS STUFF, BUT BETTER BEHAVIOR ON THE PART OF THE MOUNTAIN BIKERS IN, IN TERMS OF RESPECTING THE TRAILS THAT HAVE BEEN RESTORED, UM, IN EX EXCHANGE FOR BEING GIVEN THESE, THESE THREE, UM, EXCLUSIVE USE TRAILS.
UM, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF US HAVE BEEN, I'M LOOKING AT DENNIS, VERY SKEPTICAL THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY, UM, UM, PROTECT THE RESTORED TRAILS AND PREVENT THE CREATION OF NEW ROGUE TRAILS ELSEWHERE.
SO THIS BRINGS ME BACK TO JUST THE POINT I'VE, I'VE BEEN, I THINK THIS IS, AND I WANNA PREFACE THIS BY ALL IN ALL, YOU KNOW, I GO OUT THERE ALMOST WEEKLY AND WALK UP AND DOWN HAMER VALLEY.
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MY SENSE IS WITH OUR CONSTITUENCIES, HIKERS, BIKERS, AND EQUESTRIANS, THIS IS VERY SUCCESSFUL.I GET REALLY POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WEAR MY TAG WHEN I'M WALKING OUT THERE, I CAN TALK TO PEOPLE AND, UM, AND, AND, AND THERE WERE THOSE WHO WERE SKEPTICAL OF COME AROUND.
THERE WERE A WHOLE BUNCH OF, UM, FAMILIES THAT LIKE GOING OUT THERE ON THE DAY.
BIKES AREN'T THERE, YOU KNOW, SO EVERYTHING, EVERY FA AND, UM, I'M, I'M HEARING FROM EQUESTRIANS JUST THRILLED TO HAVE THAT DAY WHEN BIKES AREN'T THERE.
UM, AND, AND SO I'M, I'M GETTING THE SENSE THAT WITH OUR CONSTITUENCIES, IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL.
AND SO I ONLY EMPHASIZE THIS ONE FACET THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IN THE END.
AND THAT IS ENFORCEMENT OF, UM, OF, UH, THE, THE, THE ENFORCEMENT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO PREVENT, UM, NEW ROAD TRAILS FROM BEING DEVELOPED OUT THERE.
AND THAT I'M HOPING YOU FOLKS, AS YOU LOOK AT THESE TRENDS, AND IF IN FACT THAT IS AN ISSUE AND IS SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA IDENTIFY AS A PROBLEM, THAT YOU TAKE THE ONE FURTHER STEP OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST REALLY PERSONAL TO ME.
IT'S JUST, I AM REALLY FEARFUL THAT THERE'S A FEW BAD ACTORS THAT RUIN THIS FOR THE OTHER MOUNTAIN BIKERS WHO ARE REALLY INTO HELPING US RESTORE TRAILS, UM, GETTING THE, THE PEER PRESSURE OUT THERE TO TRY TO GET THE BEHAVIORS, UM, FOCUSED ON WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT THIS FOR, FOR MOUNTAIN BIKERS.
UM, SO I'M, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT SMALL GROUP JUST RUINING IT, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
AND SO HOW, HOW DO WE ENFORCE AND, AND, AND RESPOND IF IN FACT THAT'S GOING ON? AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS FROM MY TONE, YOU, I, I HAVE A SUSPICION THAT'S, THAT'S STILL GOING ON.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M JUST EMPHASIZING THAT, THAT BE A PART OF WHAT YOU BRING BACK TO US.
THANKS FOR ALL THE PRESENTATION TODAY.
UM, WILL THERE BE, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, REPORTS ON THE, THE OYSTER BAY, UH, SHORELINE AREA? I, I HEARD ADDITION.
I HEARD ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU ASKED.
WELL, YOU HAVE SOME MORE TO TALK TO US ABOUT LATER, BUT THE O THE OYSTER BAY SHORELINE AREA, UM, IT'S, IT'S ON YOUR LIST HERE.
THE, A LOT OF WORK HAS, YOU KNOW, CHA CHANGED YEAH.
UH, A LOT OF REALLY GOOD STUFF IS GOING ON, BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST HEAR A LITTLE DETAILS ABOUT THAT.
THE, UM, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE OYSTER BAY INSIDE THE PARK? YES.
THE BIKE SKILLS PARK THAT I, THAT, YEAH.
UM, AND HOW IT CONNECTS TO OTHER TRAILS.
WELL, THE, SO THE OYSTER BAY BIKE SKILLS PARK IS, UM, IS A PROJECT THAT, THAT WE ARE, DO NOT HAVE, LIKE, ON OUR ACT OF 2024 LIST.
BUT THERE, THERE'S BEEN DIRT DUMPING IN THAT AREA FOR YEARS.
IT'S ALMOST READY TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE.
BUT WE, SO WE'VE COMPLETED A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON HOW WE WOULD MANAGE THAT, HOW THAT COULD BE BUILT.
THERE'S A PRELIMINARY DESIGN, HOW IT COULD BE PHASED, ET CETERA.
THAT, THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY IS ONLINE, ON OUR PROJECTS PAGE, ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, I'M ENCOURAGED EVERYONE TO, TO, TO CHECK THAT OUT.
UM, WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION INTERNALLY ON, ON HOW THE PARK DISTRICT MIGHT MANAGE A FACILITY LIKE THIS.
WHAT COULD WE DO AT FIRST, ET CETERA.
THERE ARE, THERE'S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT THERE.
UM, FIRST THERE'S PARKING, UM, BUT, BUT, BUT IT'S ALL SORT OF GETTING TEED UP AND READY, READY TO MOVE TO A NEXT STEP IF, IF THE, IF THE BOARD WANTS THAT TO BE A PROJECT THAT WE DO PURSUE.
AGAIN, IT'S IN THE LAND USE PLAN.
I GET A CALL EVERY YEAR FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE ABOUT, WHERE'S THAT? WHY ISN'T THAT DONE YET? YOU KNOW? UM, SO IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT ALSO CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES.
WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PRIORITIZATION MATRIX FOR OUR PROJECTS, IT'S IN A EQUITY PRIORITY COMMUNITY.
IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, UH, IT, IT'S ALREADY IN A PARK THAT'S A LANDFILL, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS TO IT.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, BUT IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT BRIAN SORT OF MENTIONED BRIAN HOLT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS, IS, IS WHAT IS THE PARK DISTRICT'S ROLE AND, AND, AND, AND ARE WE THE ENTITY THAT PROVIDES THIS TYPE OF TYPE OF FACILITY OR, OR, OR NOT.
UM, BUT HOW IT CONNECTS TO OTHER TRAILS, YOU KNOW, THE BAY TRAIL GOES THROUGH OYSTER BAY, AS YOU KNOW.
UM, I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED GOING NORTH TO SAN LEANDRO MARINA, UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I DON'T HAVE MUCH INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S, EVERYBODY LOVES OYSTER BAY.
EVERY TIME I'M OUT THERE, THEY TELL ME NOT TO TELL ANYBODY ELSE ABOUT IT.
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THERE.IT'S KIND OF A, KIND OF A HOP IN PARK.
SO, UM, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE A, A GOOD LOCATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT YEAH, I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I MIGHT ALWAYS BRING SOMETHING UP ABOUT MENTIONING IT, FINDING OUT WHERE WE ARE, IS HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT BEEN SINCE THIS PROJECT BEGAN,
BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT WE'RE, UM, TALKED ABOUT TODAY, BUT I'D CONTINUE TO WANNA HEAR MORE ABOUT WHERE, WHEN WE'RE GONNA GET TO A COMPLETION OR ON THAT.
AND A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST YEAR.
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH, UH, WORK STILL TO BE DONE THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT MORE AND MORE ABOUT WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET TO THE END OF THAT.
THERE'S SOME HUGE CHALLENGES ON THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE WHAT THAT LAND WAS USED FOR PREVIOUSLY AND STILL WILL BE USED FOR, UM, WHICH I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
BUT, UM, I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW FAR AHEAD WE ARE ON THAT AND HOW WE MOVE THAT UP, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN WAITING TO MOVE FORWARD FOR HOW MANY YEARS? HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN? YEAH.
WELL, HOW MANY? SEVEN? I'M THINKING, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN SEVEN.
I DON'T RECALL WHEN THE OYSTER BAY, UH, LAND USE PLAN WAS ADOPTED.
IT'S ABOUT 107 WHEN THEY STARTED FILLING IT.
IT WAS BEFORE I WAS EVEN ALLOWED TO VOTE YET
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I'M VERY, UH, THANKFUL TO SEE THAT'S IN HERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE AND MORE HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND GET IT GOING.
TONS OF WORK HAVE HAS BEEN DONE RECENTLY, UH, TO, UH, ADD, ADD ADDITIONAL SOIL MM-HMM.
UM, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN AMAZING PLACE RIGHT THERE ON THE BAY.
AND, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL FOLKS THAT, UM, USE THAT PROPERTY FOR, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN TYPES OF USE.
UM, AND IT'S, AND IT'S VERY, VERY, UH, SUPPORTIVE.
BUT, UM, I JUST, WHEN IS THIS EVER GONNA HAPPEN? I SWEAR, UM, THIS, THIS PROJECT HAD STARTED LONG BEFORE I EVEN HAD THE ABILITY TO VOTE, YOU KNOW, THE AGE TO VOTE.
BUT NOW WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSER.
WE'RE GETTING A LOT CLOSER THAN WE WERE WHEN I BEGAN LOOKING AT THIS
BUT CAN YOU TELL ME, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET GOING TO COMPLETE THIS AND FINISH IT? THERE ARE SOME, I'LL JUST ADD THIS, THERE ARE SOME PART PARTS TO THAT LAND, WHICH WILL BE DIFFICULT TO ALWAYS CONTINUE TO IMPROVE JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SOIL HAS TO BE DRAINED, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
THERE'S MANY CONSTRAINTS ON THIS PROPERTY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
I'M GLAD YOU SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS, I, LIKE I SAID, I, IT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ONES THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MOVE FORWARD.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AN INTERNAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
AND I, AND, AND THIS IS, THIS GETS AND REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD ON.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE FINISHING POURING DIRT THERE, UM, SOON.
AND IT, IT'S MATCHING THE PLAN THAT, THAT WE THINK WILL WORK FOR SOME FORM OF A BIKE PARK.
UM, BUT I, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE COME AND SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT, I THINK IT, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO MAYBE HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING OR AN OFFLINE DISCUSSION ON IT.
AND, AND IS THAT, DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? YEAH.
AND I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN REAL QUICK 'CAUSE I AM LOOKING AT KEN'S EYES AND THE, THE CLOCK YEAH.
UM, THAT WE HAVE A LOT LEFT TO COVER THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY FOLLOW UP DIRECTLY WITH YOU, DIRECTOR CORBETT.
AND THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITY AS PART OF YOUR, UM, YOUR BUDGET PROCESS IN THE SUMMER FOR US TO DIG INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO, UM, BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD.
I, I APPRECIATE, I, I DO APPRECIATE THOUGH THAT IT'S IN THIS LIST.
BUT IF YOU WOULD GO BACK AND JUST SEE HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN SINCE WE BEGAN ON THIS LAND, IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG TIME.
SOME REALLY GREAT WORK AND IMPROVEMENT VERY RECENTLY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOREVER GONNA GET THAT THING DONE.
I UNDERSTAND WE'VE GOTTA GET GOING A LITTLE MORE, ALTHOUGH I'M, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT HAS BEEN DONE MOST RECENTLY ON GETTING IT TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT, UH, I'M JUST, I HAVE TO MENTION THAT WE'LL NEED TO BE WORKING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY JUST BECAUSE THANK YOU.
LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF IT, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WHY WE HEAR YOU.
AND, UH, MANY OF THESE
UM, SOMETIMES, UH, I LOOK AT SOME AND I, I WONDER, ANYWAY, UM, SO THANK YOU.
AND THE YEAR ON THAT ONE WOULD BE WHAT? YEAH, THIS, THANK YOU.
THIS, THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT IS, IS I THINK, UM, BECOMING RIPE.
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COME ON THAT.BUT ONE OF OUR OLDEST PARCELS AS WELL.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? ONE OF OUR OLDEST PARCELS THAT STARTED AND HASN'T COMPLETED? YEAH, I THINK I, I'M NOT SURE.
SO I ALWAYS HAVE TO BRING THAT UP.
WE CAN LET SEAN DO HIS LAST SLIDE HERE.
UM, SO I, I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THE, ON FEBRUARY 20TH, UH, ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, THIS BOARD APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH AECOM TECHNICAL SERVICES, UM, TO, UH, PERFORM A TRAIL INVENTORY IN THREE PARKS, PLEASANTON RIDGE, BRIANNA'S, AND DELVAL.
UM, THIS RFP WENT OUT, UM, END OF LAST YEAR.
WE TRIED TO, TO GET IT OUT, WE HAD ABOUT $50,000 TO DO THIS WORK, AND WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSALS BACK.
THEY ARRANGED BETWEEN 200,000 AND $600,000.
AND IF YOU START TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN SCALE TO THE, TO THE REST OF THE DISTRICT, THAT STARTS TO GET EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
SO WE HAD TO KIND OF CIRCLE THE WAGONS AND, AND, AND NARROW DOWN THE SCOPE.
WE'VE CHOSEN AECOM TO, TO DO THIS WORK IN THESE THREE PARKS.
AND THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE THEM IS BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING A, UM, UH, AN APPROACH THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THIS INVENTORY A LOT FROM THE DESKTOP.
SO THEY'RE USING, UM, DIGITAL ELEVATION MODELS, LIDAR DATA, AND, AND THEN THEY WILL GO VERIFY THAT IN THE FIELD BY WALKING.
AND, UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE IDENTIFYING IMMEDIATE SAFETY, HEALTH AND SAFETY HAZARDS.
UM, UH, THIS TRAIL CLASSIFICATION IS A, IS A, IS ANOTHER DISCUSSION, BUT, UM, STATE PARKS AS THEY LOOK AT IT, IT'S SORT OF LIKE HIGHLY DEVELOPED AND USED ALL THE TIME VERSUS BACK COUNTRY.
AND YOU START TO KIND OF, UH, UM, BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES.
AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HEAR MORE ABOUT SOME OF THAT ACT, UM, SOME OF THAT, UM, APPROACH FROM, FROM ROBERT KENNEDY.
UM, WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT, WE, WE WE'RE GONNA TAKE ALL THE DATA THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON BOOTLEG TRAILS, STRAVA DATA, GPS DATA THAT WE HAVE FROM OUR SMALL TRAILS CREW, AND WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE THAT TO THEM.
AND THEY'RE GONNA GO VERIFY AND, AND LOOK AT THESE BOOTLEG TRAILS IN THESE PARKS.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT, UH, AND WE SEE A LOT OF THESE TRAILS IN THERE.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DETERMINE WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THOSE? ARE THEY BEING USED? ARE THEY JUST GAME PATHS TO A, A WATER TROUGH? OR ARE THEY BEING ACTIVELY CONSTRUCTED? AND GET A, KIND OF, GET A HANDLE AROUND THAT GREEN PIECE OF THE PIE THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE REST OF THE, UM, THE, IS THE, THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO PUT A PAUSE ON THOUGH, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET AS MUCH OUT OF IT AS WE CAN, IS WE HAD TO TAKE OUT A LOT OF THE ASSESSMENT AND SORT OF LIKE, CATEGORIZATION OF, OF EROD ABILITY AND, AND, AND SOME OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONDITION INDICES THAT WE WERE, WE ASKED THEM FOR EVERYTHING, AND WE GOT BIG NUMBERS, AND THEN WE HAD TO TONE IT DOWN.
BUT A LOT, THE, THE REASON WHY THIS MAKES SENSE FOR US IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT DATA COULD GO SCALE RIGHT AFTER THE WINTER, RIGHT? SO WE GET THIS ASSESSMENT DATA HERE, HERE YOU GO, ROBERT KENNEDY HAVE, HAVE GO, GO FIX THIS, RIGHT? AND THEN THERE'S A SLIDE OR A FLOOD OR 16 ATMOSPHERIC RIVERS AND, AND IT ALL GOES STALE, RIGHT? SO WE, WE ARE, WE'RE CIRCLING THE WAGONS HERE.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THIS FOR THE WHOLE PARK DISTRICT AT A REASONABLE COST, SOME IN-HOUSE, SOME CONTRACT, AND THEN, UM, UM, AND THEN SCALE IT OUT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY PICKING OFF A FEW PARKS PER YEAR.
SO YOU MAY SEE LIKE A BUDGET REQUEST OR IF IT, IF IT GETS TO YOU, UM, BUDGET REQUEST FOR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING PROBABLY AROUND 25,000 PER PARK WITH THIS, THIS, THIS METHODOLOGY.
WE'LL SEE IF THE DATA'S WHAT WE GET OUTTA THIS DATA.
AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO USE THIS DATA TO START MAKING DECISIONS MIXED WITH OUR OTHER GIS LAYERS TO DETERMINE WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS AND CLOSURE RESTORATION AND POTENTIALLY ADOPTION.
SO, AND THAT, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA PAUSE AND, AND TURN IT OVER TO ROBERT AND HE CAN TALK ABOUT, UM, OTHER CONTROVERSIAL THINGS.
MAYBE WELL, HOLD ON BEFORE YOU BRING ROBERT UP, I KNOW DIRECTOR WAPI HAS BEEN WAITING VERY PATIENTLY TO ASK A QUESTION.
I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY JUST SAY, I ADMIRE THE WORK OF YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
EVERYWHERE I GO TRAILS CONFERENCES, WE ARE THE ENVY OF MOST EVERYBODY AROUND.
THE ARD THE ARD TRAIL, I KNOW THAT'S, I, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.
BUT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE HIRED GHD AND THEY'RE CONSIDERED A ENGINEERING ARCHITECTURE AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FIRM.
IS ARCHITECTURE PART OF THIS CONTRACT? BECAUSE I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE CHOUINARD WINERY, THE, THE, THE PHYSICAL BUILDING THERE, WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS A CULTURAL RESOURCE BY SOME OF US.
UH, IT'S HAS A TREMENDOUS INTERPRETIVE, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR AGRICULTURAL HISTORY IN THAT AREA OF WINE MAKING.
AND IT'S SITTING THERE GETTING WET.
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WONDER IF THE GUTTERS WORK, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.WILL, HAS ANYBODY DONE A HOME INSPECTION OR HAS ANYBODY DONE AN INSPECTION? DOES THE ROOF LEAK, DO THE WINDOWS, ARE THEY ROTTING OUT? ARE WE GONNA DO THE THING THAT WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE IN THIS DISTRICT AND LET IT ROT AND THEN DOZE IT, SAY, OH, WE, SORRY, BOARD.
IT'S GONE AND IT'S NOT GONE YET.
BUT GIVEN THE TIME IT'S GONNA TAKE TO BUILD A TRAIL, IT MIGHT BE, UNLESS WE PROTECT IT.
WELL, BRIAN HOLT, CHIEF OF PLANNING TRAILS IN GIS THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A TRAIL QUESTION, SO I'M JUMPING IN THERE.
I KNOW WE HAVE, SOME PEOPLE ARE IN THERE LOOKING AT IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, AND PART OF THE STUDY THAT WE'RE DOING IS, AGAIN, BACK LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES, RIGHT? THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AT THAT SITE, UM, WHETHER IT'S A REALLY ACTIVE USE AREA OR WHETHER IT'S A VERY, YOU KNOW, PASSIVE, UM, PASSIVE, UH, TRAIL GO THROUGH.
AND, AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, A CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE RETAINED OR, OR RESTORED, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND IF WE'VE REALLY HAD THAT FULL DISCUSSION.
SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE STUDY, UM, WHAT THE STUDY IS, IS LOOKING AT IS, IS WHAT COULD THAT BUILDING BE REPURPOSED FOR? AND IS IT SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE FROM AN OPERATIONAL POINT OF VIEW? IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN? UM, AND IS IT SOMETHING, IT WORKED WELL AS, IT WORKED GREAT AS A WINERY, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT IT'LL WORK GREAT AS A PARK FACILITY.
UM, SO THAT'S PART, THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE STUDIES ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU AGAIN, AS ALTERNATIVES.
I, I KIND OF SAY WE'VE GOT SORT OF, WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT THE GOLDILOCKS, UM, SORT OF SCENARIO HERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE FULLY RESTORED IN SOME LEVEL OF, UM, YOU KNOW, REAL ACTIVE USE WHERE WE HAVE, SAY, NATURALISTS OR STAFF IN THERE, OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A, A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, A TRAIL GOES THROUGH AND THERE'S NOT AS MUCH, UH, NOT AS MUCH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, UH, INTERACTION THERE.
AND THAT'S A DIS A DISCUSSION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE HAVE A SOLID DIRECTION OR STUDY ON THAT YET.
I, I HEAR THAT YOU'RE LOOKING INTO IT.
I, ONCE I'LL ECHO DIRECTOR COFFEE, I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD INCLUDE THE BOARD IN SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
THAT'S THE INTENT OF DOING THESE STUDIES IS SO THAT WE CAN BRING, SO WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BOARD AND WITH THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND SORT OF WHAT THOSE USES ARE, SO.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE, JOHN, WILL YOU PROMISED ME TO TELL ME THE STORY OF DUNS BEER TRAIL SOMEDAY? 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA BRING IT UP TODAY.
IT'S GONNA TAKE TOO LONG, BUT CAPPING A LANDFILL IN, THAT'LL BE A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW,
YEAH, I THINK HARD TO GET A TRAIL.
I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH STEPH ON ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS AND IF WE SHOULD MOVE ALONG.
I MEAN, UNLESS YOU, YOUR QUESTION IS BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE, OLIVIA, BECAUSE I, I I THINK IT MIGHT JUST BE MORE LIKE A QUICK COMMENT.
QUICK COMMENT ON THE TRAIL INVENTORY SLIDE.
I, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S FOR EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT LAND THAT'S MANAGED OR OWNED BY US, SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE PRIVATE PROPERTY OR OTHER JURISDICTIONS? NO, IT IS PART OUR PARKLAND AND ALSO THE LAND BANK PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN AROUND PLEASANTON RIDGE AND ANY OTHER OF THOSE.
SO I GUESS MY COMMENT, AND THIS MIGHT CUE UP FROM WHEN WE SEE PUBLIC SAFETY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, A LOT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WELL AS OTHER JURISDICTION PROPERTY NEAR BOTH PLEASANTON RIDGE AND DELVAL.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAD BEEN AT LEAST ONE SERIOUS BIKE ACCIDENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY LAST YEAR, AND PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY THAT WE MANAGE YET, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR STAFF THERE, WE'RE, WE'RE INVOLVED.
AND SO MAYBE WHEN WE GET TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION, JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
ROSSBY HAD ONE LAST THING, ONE QUICK THING, AND I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, AFTER HIS QUESTION, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK.
SO, ROBERT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, AND, BUT WE WILL MAKE IT 10 MINUTES.
SO, UM, YOU REFER TO, UM, WHEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE OF A TRAIL YOU REFER TO GETTING ENGINEERS ESTIMATES.
I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD DESCRIBE AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, HOW DO WHO, WHAT, WHAT'S AN ENGINEER? WHERE DO WE GET OUR ENGINEERS? HOW MUCH DO WE PAY ENGINEERS FOR THESE ESTIMATES? AND THAT'S IT, THAT'S A QUICK QUESTION.
THAT'S THAT, THAT'S A QUICK ONE.
UM, SO IN SHORT, I'M TEASING YOU.
UM, THE, THE, SO IT HAS TO BE A REGISTERED ENGINEER AND WE HIRE, UM, UM, CONSULTANT ENGINEERS TYPICALLY FOR LIKE THE POINT LAUDE PROJECT.
FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE NCE NICHOLS CONSULTING ENGINEERS AND THEY, THEY TAKE, UM, THE DESIGN AND THEY DETERMINE HOW MANY, LIKE THE MATERIALS THAT WILL GO INTO THAT DESIGN FOR EACH OF THE ELEMENTS.
SO IF IT'S A THREE MILE PAVED PROJECT,
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THEY CAN DETERMINE THE THICKNESS AND THE WIDTH AND ET CETERA, AND THEY CAN GET THE NUMBER AND THEN THEY CAN GIVE YOU A, A LINEAR COST PER FOOT OR SOMETHING.RIGHT? AND THEY DO THAT FOR EVERY ELEMENT.
IT'S VERY, VERY DETAILED, RIGHT? UM, AND IT'S, IT'S AN ESTIMATE BASED ON THE DESIGN.
SO THEY CALL IT AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATES, BUT WE USE THAT AND WE PROVIDE THAT IN THE BID PACKAGE.
AND THEN EACH OF THOSE LINE ITEMS THAT HAS BEEN ESTIMATED BY THE ENGINEER, THEN THE CONTRACTOR THAT WANTS TO BID ON THE PROJECT WILL PUT THEIR PRICE IN THERE AND THEN WE'LL COMPARE THE TWO.
AND SO YOU, YOU MAY GET MORE A BID THAT'S MORE THAN OUR ENGINEERS ESTIMATE, OR YOU MAY GET LESS.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF IT IN A NUTSHELL.
UM, I, AS FAR AS THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR RATES AND, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERS ARE EXPENSIVE RIGHT? TO GET THIS.
BUT IF WE GO INTO A CONTRACT WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO DESIGN OUR TRAILS, UM, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT IN THE DESIGN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE BID PACKAGE.
SO WE WILL, UM, BREAK FOR 10 MINUTES AND READ ADJOURN AT 3 0 4.
WE HAVE, UH, ROBERT KENNEDY, CHIEF OF MAINTENANCE AND SKILLED TRAILS.
AND HE'S GOING TO PRESENT ON TRAIL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OVERVIEW.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, PRESIDENT ECKLES.
I'M ROBERT KENNEDY, CHIEF OF MAINTENANCE AND SKILLED TRADES.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, OUR, UH, SKILLED TRADES TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF OVER 1,330 MILES.
UM, AND THAT CONSISTS OF BRUSHING, UH, CLEARING, GRADING, WATER CROSSINGS, RETAINING WALLS, AND, UH, CONSTRUCTIONS, CULVERT, REPAIR AND INSTALLATION, POND RESTORATION, SAND MOVING, UH, PAVEMENT, REHAB AND MAINTENANCE.
UH, ALL WITH 24 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
UM, THIS CONSISTS OF, YOU KNOW, THE ROADS AND TRAILS, UH, SUPERINTENDENT, UH, ERIC BOWMAN, WHO'S BESIDE ME TO MY RIGHT.
UH, THE ROADS AND TRAILS SUPERVISOR, THE NEW SMALL TRAIL SUPERVISOR, HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, PARK, CRE, SPECIALIST PARK RANGERS, A SMALL TRAILS CREW LEADER, AN A WP SUPERVISOR, A PARK, UH, A PROJECT MANAGER, AND A PROJECT COORDINATOR IN A PARTRIDGE AND A PEAR TREE, UM,
WE ALSO HAVE, UM, THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS, UH, IN STEWARDSHIP TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE, UH, PLANNING TRAILS AND GIS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS, UM, AND OUR, OUR PARTNERS IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND OPERATIONS TO ENSURE THAT, UM, WE'RE ADDRESSING HEALTH, LIFE, AND SAFETY MATTERS, OPERATIONAL IMPACTS, UM, AND EQUAL ACCESS AS WELL.
UM, YOU HAVE IT ALL PLANNED OUT AND THINGS KIND OF, UH, TAKE A TWIST.
UH, OUR FULL-TIME, UH, SMALL TRAILS CREW HAS TAKEN ON THE CHALLENGE OF, UH, MAINTAINING OUR NARROW, UH, NATURAL SURFACE TRAILS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FROM FOOT BRIDGES TO RETAINING WALL STRUCTURES TO, UM, BRUSH CLEARING, UH, FOR OUR, OUR NETWORK OF SMALL TRAILS.
UH, BUT THE MAIN CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE IS JUST THE, A VAST AMOUNT OF WORK, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
UM, GIVEN THE WEATHER IMPACTS ON OUR TRAILS AND THE HIGH USAGE, UH, IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR US TO DETERMINE WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE PRIORITIZATION, UH, FOR MAINTENANCE AND OUR STANDARDS FOR OUR NETWORKS ARE.
UM, PRIORITIZING HELPS US DETERMINE WHAT TRAILS AND ROADS TO FOCUS ON, WHICH ENSURES THE SAFETY OF THE PERSONNEL, OPERATIONAL STAFF, AND OUR VISITORS.
UH, DETERMINING THIS, UH, SET OF TRAIL STANDARDS ALLOWS US TO ALSO COMMUNICATE TO OUR VISITORS WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THEY VISIT OUR PARKS.
UM, SO AGAIN, JUST REITERATING WHAT SEAN HAD SAID EARLIER IN HIS PRESENTATION, WE HAVE OVER 1010 MILES OF UNPAVED RANCH ROADS AND FIRE ROADS.
UM, BEING ABLE TO PRIORITIZE THAT WITH OUR STAFF, UM, UH, WITHIN THE DISTRICT IS GONNA BE IMPERATIVE TO US BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THOSE, THAT PROGRAM AND OPERATE OUT OF OUR PARKS, WE HAVE OVER 120 MILES OF PAVED TRAILS, AND WE'VE GOT A PROGRAM TO MAINTAIN AND RENOVATE OR REHAB, UH, THAT 120 MILES.
UH, AND THEN AGAIN, THE UNPAVED NATURAL SURFACE SINGLE TRACK TRAILS CONSISTS OF 200 MILES.
UM, ONE, ONE, UH, TIDBIT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE OVER 29 LOCATIONS FOR GRAVEL RESURFACING, AND THAT'S
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JUST OVER 620,000 SQUARE FEET.SO YOUR ROADS AND TRAILS TEAM AND YOUR SMALL TRAILS TEAM, UH, DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING IN THE DISTRICT.
UH, AND BEING ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE, PRIORITIZING THAT WORK, MOVING INTO THE STANDARDIZATION OF HOW WE, UH, CLASSIFY OUR TRAILS, UM, ALLOWS US TO, AGAIN, PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT'S NEEDED.
UM, WE ALSO DO EMERGENCY RESPONSE, WE ALSO DO SHORELINE HARDENING, UH, AND THEN WE ALSO MITIGATE HAZARDS.
UH, I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, CROWN BEACH.
AND SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT OUR STAFF WORKS ON, UH, WORKED ON PREVIOUSLY IN 2022, UH, WHERE WE WERE HARDENING THAT SHORELINE DUE TO THE SEVERE STORMS THAT WE'RE, UH, WE HAD RECEIVED THAT YEAR.
UH, AND THE FACT THAT THE, THE SAND IS FLEETING ON THAT BEACH IS LITERALLY BEING WASHED FURTHER AND FURTHER UP SHORE.
UM, AND SO OUTSIDE OF TRAILS MAINTENANCE, OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATORS AND OUR ROADS AND TRAIL STAFF, OUR ARMING SHORELINES, PROTECTING OUR PATRONS, UH, AND ENSURING THAT ASSETS ARE HERE FOR, UH, A NUMBER OF YEARS TO COME.
I'VE GOT A LOT OF PICTURES TO SHOW YOU BECAUSE A, A PICTURES SPEAK A THOUSAND WORDS, AND I JUST WANT GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF WHAT OUR ROADS AND TRAILS TEAMS, UH, DO.
SO THIS IS POND 36, AND WE DID A RESTORATION HERE.
AND THE REASON WHY I PUT THIS ON OR IN THIS PRESENTATION AS IT RELATES TO TRAILS, BECAUSE THE DAM THAT REINSURERS THE VIABILITY OF THAT POND IS ACTUALLY A ROADWAY.
UM, AND SO THAT'S A SERVICE ROAD, A-E-V-M-A ROAD OR AN OPERATIONAL ROAD FOR A PARK STAFF THAT, UH, MAINTAINED THIS LOCATION.
AND SO WHENEVER OUR PARK STAFF GO OUT, OUR ROADS AND TRAILS, I SHOULD SAY, UM, WE LOOK AT IT WITH A THREE TO FIVE YEAR LENS.
AND SO OUT OF THAT, UH, 1010 MILES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 170 TO 200 MILES OF, UH, GRADING AND MAINTENANCE ANNUALLY, UH, BASED ON, UH, THE GIVEN YEAR, IF WE'VE GOT SEVERE STORMS THAT COME IN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA, UH, MOVE OR PIVOT TO A POSTURE THAT'S MORE OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
OR CAN WE DO OUR CYCLICAL, UH, PRIORITIZATION WHEN IT COMES TO WORK.
UM, AND AGAIN, 1,010 MILES THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR OF ROADS AND FIRE ROADS AND EVMA ROADS THREE TO FIVE YEARS TO GET THROUGH THAT, THAT'S QUITE A BIT.
UH, YOU TALK ABOUT MOVING HEAVEN AND EARTH, THAT'S WHAT OUR ROADS AND TRAILS TEAM DOES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND THEY DO IT TO PERFECTION.
ON TOP OF THAT, WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS IN THE DISTRICT.
WE'VE GOT THE INSTALLATION OF, UH, CXT RESTROOMS, WE'VE GOT OUR TCP, UH, PROCESS THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU A SLIDE IN.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON A DA COMPLIANCE.
SO THE WORLD OF TRAILS MAINTENANCE, UH, DOESN'T ALLEVIATE US FROM THE PRESSURES OF BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF OUR OTHER DISTRICT ASSETS.
AND OUR, UH, ROADS AND TRAILS TEAM DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB AT MAINTAINING THESE ASSETS.
BUT WE'RE WORKING TO TOWARDS A STANDARDIZATION OF THE WORK THAT WE DO, SO THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS WILL KNOW THAT THE EVMA ROADS THAT THEY OPERATE ON AND PATROL ON ARE UP TO SPEED.
OUR PARK OPERATIONS STAFF THAT RELY ON THESE ROADS TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE, ARE MAINTAINED.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY PROGRAMMING ELEMENTS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THOSE PARKS, THEIR NEEDS ARE MET AS WELL.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR TRAILS, WE CAN'T PROGRAM, FOLKS CAN'T VISIT OUR PARKS, AND WE CAN'T CREATE THAT EQUITY THAT, UH, MANY FOLKS DEPEND AND RELY ON TO ENJOY OUR PARKS.
BUT THIS IS JUST A, UH, PLETHORA OF IMAGES THAT SHOW YOU THE VAST, UM, SKILLS AND ABILITY OF OUR ROADS.
AND, UM, MAINTENANCE, UH, TEAM, YOU CAN SEE CULVERT INSTALLATION, YOU CAN SEE, UM, DEBRIS REMOVAL, YOU CAN SEE OUR PAVING INSTALLATION.
YOU COULD EVEN SEE A PIT FOR OUR CX TS THAT'S PERFECTLY ALIGNED AND READY TO RECEIVE THAT CXT VAULT TOILET.
UH, WE ALSO WORK ON UTILITIES, SO WE HAVE TO POTHOLE AND ENSURE THAT WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES ARE AVAILABLE, AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR TRAILS.
UM, BUT ERIC AND HIS TEAM, THEY DO A MAGNIFICENT JOB, UH, JUGGLING ALL OF THESE RESPONSIBILITIES, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, UH, A PATH OF TRAVEL, A SAFE PATH OF TRAVEL, UM, AND AGAIN, JUST CREATING THESE EXPERIENCES FOR GENERATIONS TO COME, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, BASK IN THE NATURAL ELEMENTS.
NOW, THIS IS THE MOST EXCITING PART, AND THIS IS KIND OF DOVETAILING ONTO WHAT SEAN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THIS IS OUR NATURAL NARROW SURFACE TRAILS.
WE NOW HAVE A SMALL TRAILS CREW THAT IS FULLY STAFFED.
UH, PATRICK DEMINS AND HIS TEAM, UH, OF EIGHT ARE, UH, MOVING FORWARD TO
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REALLY, UM, MAINTAIN, UH, THAT ASSET.UH, AND THESE ARE ALL TRAILS THAT ARE LESS THAN EIGHT FEET IN WIDTH.
UH, AND FROM THIS, UH, LENS, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MIX OF SMALL EQUIPMENT AND HAND TOOLS.
SO WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT A THREE TO FIVE YEAR TURNAROUND FOR, UH, OUR ROADS AND TRAILS AND FIRE ROADS, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR NATURAL SURFACE TRAILS, THAT'S A FIVE YEAR, FIVE TO SIX YEAR LENS.
UH, WE'VE GOT 200 MILES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MAINTAIN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, OR, UH, SORRY, UH, IN THAT FIVE TO TO SIX YEAR TURNAROUND.
SO THAT'S 33 TO 40 MILES ANNUALLY THAT OUR SMALL TRAILS CREW, UH, CAN MAINTAIN.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING, YOU KNOW, MINOR BLADING BECAUSE WE'VE GOT OUR SUTTER 300 THAT'S GOT A, A FOUR FOOT WIDE, UH, BER ON IT.
UM, CORRIDOR CLEARING, HAZARD REMOVAL, WATER DIVERSION.
UM, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE SKILLED TECHNICIANS THAT ARE DOING THIS WORK.
SO WE'VE GOT A PLETHORA OF PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, UH, HAZARD REMOVAL, UH, BOULDERS THAT MIGHT FALL DOWN ONTO OUR TRAILS AND PATHWAYS, TREES THAT MIGHT CROSS THE NARROW SURFACE TRA UH, UH, TRAILS.
UH, AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF RETAINING FEATURES.
THESE FOLKS ARE SKILLED IN THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIX TO FIVE YEAR COMPLETION RATE OF TOUCHING ALL 200 MILES WHEN WE'RE OUTTA THERE, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO COME BACK FOR FIVE TO SIX YEARS.
SO WE DO A, A DETAILED, UM, THOROUGH JOB, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO TRAINING THE STAFF, UH, AT THAT PARK LOCATION SO THAT THEY CAN DO A, A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, UH, IN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, OUR TIME BEING ABLE TO, UH, TOUCH THOSE FACILITIES.
AND WE'RE NOT JUST THROWING GRAVEL DOWN WHEN WE DO GRAVEL APPLICATIONS.
WE PUT GEOGRIDS SO THAT IT DOESN'T SPREAD OUT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY TRAFFIC IN CERTAIN AREAS.
UH, SO WE, WE REALLY THINK ABOUT, UH, THE APPLICATION OF, UM, MATERIALS.
UH, AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT THAT FIVE TO SIX YEAR LENS OF WHEN WE LEAVE THIS PARK, IT'S GONNA BE IN GOOD SHAPE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS THEY SAY, PAINTING THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE, ONCE YOU'RE, YOU'RE DONE PAINTING, YOU GOTTA START ALL OVER AGAIN.
WE DO, WE HAVE THAT SAME KIND OF LENS HERE WITH, UH, OUR SMALL TRAILS AND OUR ROADS AND TRAILS.
UM, WE DON'T DO THIS ALL BY OURSELVES EITHER.
UM, I'VE GIVEN COUNTLESS PRESENTATIONS ABOUT OUR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND HOW WE COORDINATE WITH, UH, OTHER, UH, VOLUNTEERS, UM, AND HAVE PARTNERED WITH CIVICORE AND SCA CREW, AND THIS IS THEM IN ACTION, UH, ALONGSIDE OF OUR SMALL TRAILS CREW AND ROADS AND TRAILS CREW TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER, UH, ACCESS TO OUR TRAILS, UH, HABITAT RESTORATION, UH, AND SAFE CROSSINGS, BRIDGES TO RETAINING WALLS, TO CULVERT INSTALLATION AND, UM, SPLIT RAIL FENCING.
AND A LOT OF THIS MATERIAL IS HIKED IN.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT FIVE TO SIX YEAR TIMEFRAME, JUST IMAGINE HAULING DEBRIS UP IN PLEASANTON RIDGE BY HAND OR WALKING MATERIAL IN OUR STAFF, STRATEGICALLY HAVE TO STAGE EQUIPMENT.
WE, UH, STRATEGICALLY HAVE TO STAGE MATERIAL, AND THROUGH THE MAGIC OF ERIC AND HIS CREW, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO DELIVER PROJECTS FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.
UM, THIS DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN ALL BY ITSELF.
UM, OUR SMALL TRAILS CREW HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGHOUT THAT PILOT PROGRAM TO CREATE A TRAILS INVENTORY AND ASSESSMENT.
THEY'VE DELIVERED FOR A NUMBER OF OUR PARKS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GIVE US MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT PLANS FOR THE TRAILS MAINTENANCE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS, UM, EXPANDING WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER PARKS AND THEN ALSO EXPANDING TO OUR ROADS AND TRAILS CREW.
AND A PART OF THIS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, COORDINATING BUDGETS ALLOWS US TO ADOPT, UM, SOME OF WHAT OUR NEIGHBORING PARTNERS DO IN THE STATE.
SO ADOPTING THE STATE TRAILS STANDARDS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'VE GOT OUR EYE ON BECAUSE WE CAN POINT TO SOMETHING THAT SAYS, THIS IS STANDARD PRACTICE.
THIS IS WHAT IS DONE THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING SUIT.
UH, AND SO THEN THAT ALLOWS US TO AGAIN, UH, SET THE PRIORITY, SET THE STANDARDS SO THAT WHEN OUR, UH, CONSTITUENTS COME INTO OUR PARKS, THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
UM, AND THAT'S OUR BIGGEST CHARGE, UH, DEFINING OUR TRAILS, OUR STANDARDS, UH, AND OUR USE TYPES AND CLASSIFICATIONS THAT HELPS US WITH OUR PREDICTIVE MAINTENANCE.
RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE POSTURE THAT WE WANT TO BE IN.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PREDICT WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE IN THE DISTRICT NEXT, GIVEN THE SEASON AND THE, THE CHANGING CLIMATE, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST, UH, AND BUILD IN A RESPONSE FOR EMERGENCIES.
BUT IF WE CAN, UH, BE CONFIDENT WITH OUR DISTRICT TRAIL STANDARDS AND OUR TRAILS
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CLASSIFICATION, UM, THAT ALLOWS US TO PRIORITIZE THAT WORK.SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS DEFINING OUR TRAIL TYPES.
SO, RANCH ROADS, SERVICE ROADS, FIRE AND PATROL, ROADS AND RECREATIONAL ROADS.
YOU KNOW, RECREATION HAS TO DO WITH EVERYTHING THAT OUR VISITORSHIP DOES.
AND SO ARE WE MEETING THEIR NEEDS.
AND SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT DISTRICT STANDARDS, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, A LEVEL STANDARD, A B LEVEL STANDARD, OR A C LEVEL MAINTENANCE STANDARD.
AND AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UH, YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO KIND OF REPORT BACK AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE, UH, ALONG THAT PROCESS AND STANDARDIZING AND CREATING, UH, TRAIL CLASSIFICATIONS FOR OUR PARKS AND TRAILS NETWORK.
BIGGEST PRIORITY FOR ME, UH, WHEN I LOOK AT THAT PRIORITIZATION STRUCTURE IS HEALTH, LIFE, AND SAFETY.
I, I THINK I'VE SAID THAT IN A NUMBER OF PRESENTATIONS.
I RECENTLY GAVE A PRESENTATION AT BOARD OPS TALKING ABOUT OUR, UM, STORM RESPONSE.
AND I LAID OUT OUR PRIORITIZATION, UM, STRUCTURE.
ONE BEING HEALTH, LIFE AND SAFETY, TWO BEING OPERATIONAL AND EQUITY EQUITY IMPACTS, AND THREE, BEING SCHEDULED PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.
AND IF WE PUT OURSELVES IN THAT POSTURE, I CAN ENSURE THAT THE FIRE ROADS AND SERVICE ROADS FOR OUR PARK OPERATIONS AND PUBLIC SAFETY ARE MAINTAINED ANNUALLY SO THAT THEY CAN PATROL, UH, OUR PARKS AND KEEP OUR PATRONS SAFE.
AND IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY, THEY CAN GET THERE EXPEDITIOUSLY.
AND THEN, UH, FOR THE OPERATIONAL AND, UM, EQUITY COMPONENT, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ACCESS FOR ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, UH, SO 1,330 MILES, PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW DO WE BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES, AND ENSURING THAT OUR ROADS AND TRAIL STAFF AND OUR NEW SMALL TRAILS CREW CAN PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
UM, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING ANNUALLY ARE THE PERMIT AND REGULATORY, UH, COMPLIANCE.
UM, UH, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SPEED BUMPS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT WALLS OR ROADBLOCKS.
WE, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR REGULATORY AGENCIES, FISH AND WILDLIFE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, AND THE STATE WATER BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR, UH, NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THIS WORK DONE.
BUT THAT COMPRESSES OUR WORK WINDOW DOWN TO THREE MONTHS.
SO FROM AUGUST 1ST TO OCTOBER 31ST IS WHEN WE HAVE AN OPERATING WINDOW.
SO EVERYTHING THAT I JUST LAID OUT BEFORE YOU HAS TO BE PLANNED, COORDINATED, AND SCHEDULED.
AND IF IT DOESN'T FIT WITHIN THAT WORK WINDOW, WE'RE PUSHING THAT OFF TO THE NEXT SEASON.
AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T SEE 16 ATMOSPHERIC RIVERS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?
UH, AND I KNOW OUR PARTNERS IN LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS AND ALSO OUR PARTNERS IN STEWARDSHIP, UH, HAVE, UH, MADE SOME GREAT STRIDES IN CUTTING THE GREEN TAPE, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE TO DO.
UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NO FAULT OF OUR OWN, WE'VE GOT A BACKLOG OF OVER 200 PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE TIME, NEED TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN, UH, TCP.
AND SO PRIORITI PRIORITIZING THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR TRAILS, A DA COMPLIANCE, UM, RESTROOM INSTALLATION, AND THE TCP WORK IS WHAT WE JUGGLE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, ALL WHILE FITTING IN, GRADING TRAIL WORK, AND, UM, BASIC STRUCTURES.
AND I WANTED TO BE SHORT AND SWEET, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF QUESTIONS, SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND, AND OPEN THE MIC UP.
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON DIRECTOR RIO.
UM, THANKS ROBERT FOR, UH, FOR ALL THAT.
AND YOU DID A GOOD JOB WITH THE PICTURES TOO.
SO WHEN, UM, WHEN WE ENCOUNTER A YEAR, LIKE LAST YEAR WHEN THERE'S JUST SO MUCH DAMAGE AND WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF RESTORATION, UH, AS CLOSE AS CLOSE TO BEYOND THE RAINY SEASON AS WE CAN MANAGE, UM, ARE WE, ARE WE PRIORITIZING THEM? I KNOW THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN LAST YEAR, BUT MAYBE NOW IT WILL THAT WHEN, WHEN YOU'VE GOT A LAND BANKED PROPERTY WITH DAMAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THE LAND BANK STUFF GETS DONE AFTER THE PROPERTIES WHERE THE PARKS THAT, THAT ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE USING THEM.
SO WE WORK CLOSELY WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND OUR OPERATIONS FOLKS TO REALLY DETERMINE WHAT ARE THOSE OPERATIONAL IMPACTS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAMS SO THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE THAT WORK.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THAT EQ THROUGH THAT EQUITY LENS AND CREATING, YOU KNOW, EQUITABLE ACCESS FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.
AND SO OUR EYES AND EARS, OUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND, OUR PARK STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY COMING FORWARD AND LETTING US KNOW
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WHAT'S GOING ON.AND THEN DO WE HAVE ACCESS? SO IF THE, IF THE GROUND IS STILL SOFT YEAH.
AND IT'S HEAVILY SATURATED, WE'RE GONNA DO MORE DAMAGE MM-HMM.
SO WE'VE GOTTA KIND OF WORK OUR WAY FROM EAST TO WEST.
'CAUSE IT'S DRIER IN EAST COUNTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE GET SO IN WITH THE, THE FOG AND THAT THE COOL BAY BREEZE AND THINGS DON'T DRY OUT TILL LATER ON IN THE SEASON.
AND THAT PUSHES, PUSHES US INTO TCP.
SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY DOING THIS DANCE OF EVALUATING CAN THIS LAST ANOTHER SEASON? OR DO WE REALLY NEED TO JUMP ON IT NOW? AND THEN SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A NO GO.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T GET OUR EQUIPMENT THERE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE HEAVY PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
UM, BUT YES, NON FREQUENT, NON FREQUENTED PARKS THAT ARE CLOSED OFF TO THE REST OF THE, THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S NOT A PRIORITY FOR US.
UH, WE KNOW IT'S HABITAT AT SOME POINT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THERE, BUT WE ARE PRIORITIZING THE LOCATIONS THAT ARE USED BY OUR CONSTITUENTS.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WANTED JUST KIND OF TO COMMENT ON IS, UM, UM, USAGE OF THE STATE TRAILS MANUAL THAT I HAVE.
ONE OF THOSE, IT'S A THICK BINDER.
UH, AND, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, HAVING LOOKED THROUGH IT NUMEROUS TIMES, IT, IT COVERS SO MANY DIFFERENT, IT COVERS STUFF WE DON'T EVEN HAVE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A USEFUL RESOURCE.
IT COVERS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY JUST ABOUT ANY CONDITION THAT WE MIGHT ENCOUNTER HERE.
SO I LIKE THAT BECAUSE I THINK IF, IF YOU FOLLOW THAT MANUAL AND YOU, AND YOU AND, AND EVERYONE IS COMMITTED TO FOLLOWING IT, YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING YOUR MOST EFFECTIVE WORK.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA, LIKE YOU WERE MENTIONING EARLIER, YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE TO GO BACK NEXT YEAR AND DO IT AGAIN IF YOU, IF YOU FOLLOW THAT MANUAL, IT REALLY IS, UM, UM, CREATES A SUSTAINABLE CONDITION ON YOUR TRAILS WHEN YOU FOLLOW THAT.
AND I HOPE THAT, UH, EVERYBODY WHO NEEDS TRAINING IN THAT, UH, CAN GET IT.
I KNOW THAT COULD BE HARD SOMETIMES, BUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN, AND HERE'S THE BIG ONE, WHEN THE VOLUN, WHEN WE START HAVING VOLUNTEERS, AGAIN, I'VE, I, WE NEED ENOUGH STAFF OUT THERE TO SHOW 'EM HOW TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
AND YOU SEE THINGS HAPPENING OUT.
I'VE SEEN THINGS HAPPENING OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THEM THERE, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 'EM THERE, YOU MIGHT, THEY MIGHT AS WELL BE DOING IT.
SO ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO, AND, AND I KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE, IT JUST, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE GAINING GROUND ON THIS OVER THE YEARS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CORRECTING THINGS AND, AND MAKING PROGRESS SO THAT IN 20 YEARS, MAYBE I'LL PICK A NUMBER, UM, OUR, OUR TRAILS ARE NOT GONNA BE AS DEMANDING OF US AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
UH, I'M, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF MY TALKING POINTS.
I, I FIGURED SOMEBODY'S GONNA TALK ABOUT TRAINING.
UM, BUT THAT IS A KEY PILLAR TO OUR SMALL TRAILS CREW.
AND PATRICK DEMINS HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, SEARCHING OUT SOME OF THESE NEW TRAININGS, UH, AND PARTNERING.
IT'S A, AN ENG IMPORTANT PART OF OUR GROWTH FOR THE SMALL TRAILS CREW, UH, IS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND A WELL-TRAINED STAFF CAN ACCOMPLISH MORE, WORK, MORE EFFICIENTLY, UH, AND WILL BE MORE LIKELY TO RETAIN, UM, THESE STAFF MEMBERS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE GROWING, UM, NOT ONLY IN THE SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE, BUT JUST HOW THEY CAN DELIVER SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND SO OUR SMALL TRAIL SUPERVISORS WORKING TO PROVIDE, UH, GROUP TRAINING, UH, FOR THE SMALL TRAILS CREW, AS WELL AS DIFFERENT PERSONNEL IN MAST AND IN PARK OPERATIONS, SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO A PARK AS THE FALSE FORCE MULTIPLIER, WE'RE BRINGING IN PARK STAFF.
SO THEY'RE LEARNING THESE TECHNIQUES AND GETTING THAT VALUABLE TRAINING.
SO WHEN WE'RE GONE, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT.
UM, PATRICK HAS SIGNED UP OUR FOLKS IN THE WILDERNESS FIRST RESPONDER COURSE, UH, OUTTA SAUSALITO.
UM, AT THE END OF FEBRUARY, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH TRAILS UNLIMITED TO DO TRAILS MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT TRAINING FOR OUR SCO, OUR SETTER 300 AND OUR MINI X.
AND THAT'S A GROUP TRAINING DAY.
AND THAT'LL HAPPEN IN BETWEEN MAY AND JUNE.
UH, AND THEN THE CALIFORNIA TRAILS AND GREENWAYS CONFERENCE WILL BE ATTENDING, AND THAT'S AT THE END OF APRIL.
SO WE'RE REALLY BRINGING THIS INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE TO THIS GROUP SO THAT WE CAN BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF TRAILS MAINTENANCE.
AGAIN, WE'RE USING THAT TRAIN THE TRAINER CONCEPT, SO AS OUR STAFF GET TRAINED UP IN THE SMALL TRAILS CREW, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT KNOWLEDGE DOWN TO OUR PARK STAFF.
UH, AND THEN JUST KIND OF CONTINUOUS, CONTINUE THIS ONGOING MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR COFFEE, ROBERT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD IS, UH, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE SMALL TRAILS CREW, EXPANDING THE SMALL TRAILS CREW, EXPANDING THE CIVIC CORP AND YAP PROGRAMS, ALL TO BOLSTER OUR ABILITY TO HANDLE ALL THE MULTI-LAYERED, MULTIFACETED NEEDS THAT THE SMALL TRAILS CREW FITS.
SO I WANT TO TEE UP AN ISSUE, AND I'M NOT, I KNOW I BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE
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WHEN WE HIRED THAT COLORADO FIRM, UH, FOR NEWER TRAIL, UH, WORK.AND AS SEAN REPORTED, WE'RE, THEY'RE GONE AND WE'RE GONNA BE, UM, BRINGING BACK, UH, ANOTHER CONTRACT FOR A SANTA CRUZ BASED TRAILS CREW.
SO THE ISSUE TO TEE UP IS WE ALL LIKE TO SEE EXPANSION, AS YOU SPOKE OF, OF THE SMALL TRAILS CREW OF OUR, UM, YOUTH EMPLOYMENT EFFORTS TO BRING, UH, UH, YOUTH IN TO DEVELOP OUR ABILITY TO DO THESE TASKS.
SO I, AMONG OTHERS, ARE HESITANT TO GO OUT AND HIRE OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS, NON-UNION CONTRACTORS TO, TO DO THE WORK.
AND SO WHAT I WANT TO TEE UP IS, WHEN YOU BRING THAT, OR WHOMEVER AMONG OUR STAFFS STAFF AND DIVISIONS ARE GONNA BRING THAT CONTRACT TO US, UH, IT WILL BE USEFUL TO KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN ANALYSIS OF HOW COST EFFECTIVE IT IS TO USE THESE OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS FOR, UM, SMALL TRAIL CREW WORK.
INSTEAD OF, UH, HIRING MORE OF THESE, UM, UH, PATRICK DEON'S CREWS AND, UM, CIVIC CORPS PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
RIGHT? SO THAT I WANTED TO, UM, MAKE SURE WE'RE, UH, UM, TRACKING BECAUSE THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IT GONNA COST US? HOW OFTEN DO WE NEED THESE FOLKS WHEN YOU BRING IN OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS TO DO THAT KIND OF WORK? ESPECIALLY THAT WORK.
'CAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL HEAR TREASURE AS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE YOUTH EMPLOYMENT, UM, JOBS AND, UM, JOBS FOR OUR EXISTING UNION EMPLOYEES.
SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE.
DIRECTOR CORBETT, I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH MORE TO ADD THAN WHAT IS ALREADY COM BEEN STATED WITH REGARD TO YOUR WORK, BUT ONCE AGAIN, AMAZING WORK.
AND I KNOW YOU'LL SAY IT'S THE STAFF TOO THAT'S DOING ALL THE WORK, AND I'M SAYING THAT TOO,
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I DON'T NEED TO REALLY ADD TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, BUT, UM, GOOD WORK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED.
THANK YOU, ROBERT AND FRANKS TO ALL YOUR STAFF WITH ALL THE GREAT WORK THEY'RE DOING.
UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, ROADS AND TRAILS, YOU'RE RIGHT.
DOES INCREDIBLE WORK AND GREAT WORK IN THERE, BUT THEY NEED PEOPLE TO RUN DOZERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE, WHAT'S YOUR STAFFING LEVEL ON ROADS AND TRAILS? SO IN TOTAL, WE'VE GOT 24, UH, EMPLOYEES IN ROADS AND TRAILS.
BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE BEING FILLED, RIGHT? YEAH.
ONE OPERATOR AND ACTUALLY TWO.
UM, AND I'M, UH, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM FOR ROADS AND TRAILS? THAT IS ACTUALLY THE VACANT POSITION.
WE'RE HOLDING THAT OPEN FOR THE APPRENTICE.
AND, AND ARE WE GONNA HIRE THAT PERSON SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE? WE'RE WORKING ON THE DETAILS OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH HAYWARD ADULT SCHOOL.
AND SO AS WE, ONCE WE'VE COMPLETED THAT PROCESS, THEN WE'VE ALREADY STOOD UP THE COMMITTEE AND WE'RE MEETING, UM, BUT THAT'S, WE'RE DRIVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
UH, AND ON THE SMALL TRAILS CREW, UM, SO IT'S ONE SUPERVISOR, EIGHT CREW MEMBERS? YEAH, I THINK I MISSPOKE.
SO, UM, I WAS NOT READING MY NOTES CLEARLY.
SO THERE'S A SMALL TRAIL SUPERVISOR, SMALL TRAILS CREW LEADER, TWO PARK RANGERS, UH, AND A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR THAT WILL COME IN TO ASSIST WITH THE OPERATION OF OUR EQUIPMENT.
AND THEY ARE, WE, I KNOW WE, OUR PLAN WAS TO GET CIVICORE TO WORK RIGHT ALONG WITH THEM, CORRECT.
AND LEARN THOSE SKILLS AND, AND GET THOSE JOB SKILLS AND TRAINING.
DO WE HAVE A COMMITTED, UH, UM, CIVICO CREW THAT COMES OUT THERE? THERE ARE EIGHT PERSON CREW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UH, AND THAT'S BEEN WORKING OUT GREAT, UH, WITH OUR TRAILS CREW.
AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY IN OPEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM RIGHT NOW ON HOW WE CAN EXPAND THAT.
SO NEXT WEEK WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO THE PITTSBURGH, UM, LOCATION AND POSSIBLY LOOKING AT, UH, ADDITIONAL EXPANSION.
THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC AND IT'S REALLY NICE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TODAY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PREPARING, UM, THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF HOW WE COMMUNICATE ALL THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT
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I THINK IT ALSO CONTINUES TO REMAIN A CHALLENGE, RIGHT? IN REGARDS TO HOW TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AND UNDERSTANDING WHY WE'RE DOING IT.I KNOW WE STILL, ESPECIALLY LAST YEAR, BUT EVEN NOW, IF THERE'S PARKS THAT ARE CLOSED BECAUSE OF SOME, YOU KNOW, WEATHER IMPACTS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HEAR, WE WILL HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
AND I THINK THE, THE, THE RESPONSE TO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, SHARING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THESE CHALLENGES, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, A CLIMATE RELATED OR AN INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED IMPACT, AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT THIS COMMUNICATIONS CHALLENGE, I THINK WILL BE ONGOING, EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH IT.
I, I THINK THAT THERE'S STILL MORE THAT EVOLVES ALONG THESE LINES.
UM, AND I THINK THERE'S TWO PART, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE WORK THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE, BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE.
I, I, I THINK WE MIGHT, I THINK THE AVERAGE PERSON MIGHT TAKE FOR GRANTED WHEN WALKING ON A TRAIL, HOW MUCH WORK ACTUALLY GOES INTO CONSTRUCTING THAT TRAIL.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.
SO HOW TO COMMUNICATE THAT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE WITH THE CHALLENGES, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT PERMIT AND REGULATORY COMPLIANCE AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL SHARE A QUICK STORY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS AT SUNOL, UH, REGIONAL PARK AT THE END OF JANUARY, I NOTICED THAT WE STILL HAD A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, SOIL AND, AND LAND AND, UH, DIRT THAT HAD MOVED WITH THE ATMOSPHERIC RIVERS.
AND WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ELEVATION WAS UP ALONG ONE OF OUR SIGNPOSTS.
AND I MADE A COMMENT TO, UM, STEVE CASTILE.
I'M LIKE, WHY AREN'T WE FIXING THIS? I FEEL LIKE WE COULD GET VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, DIG THE SIGNPOSTS OUT THE DOOR DIRT.
AND HE HAS A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT I SHOULD HAVE ACTUALLY KNOWN.
AND MY POINT HERE IS THAT EVEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE KNOWLEDGE DON'T REALIZE THIS.
HE SAID, OH, HOW CLOSE TO THE CREEK WAS THAT? I SAID, OH, IT WAS VERY CLOSE TO THE CREEK.
AND HE SAID, WELL, THERE'S A PERMITTING ISSUE, AND I REALLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT, BUT DIDN'T IN THAT MOMENT.
AND MY POINT HERE IS THAT EVEN THOSE OF US WITH KNOWLEDGE DON'T ALWAYS MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS EITHER.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S A COMMUNICATIONS CHALLENGE TOO, THAT I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO CONSISTENTLY BE THINKING ABOUT AND WORKING ON.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS, WHEN THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CHANGING CLIMATE AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, NATURE MAY RUN ITS COURSE, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AND RESTORATION, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME CASES WHERE WE MAY NOT ALWAYS WANT TO RESTORE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DAMAGED, AND HOW DO WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION? AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING VERY BELOVED BY THE PUBLIC AS WELL, BUT MAYBE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO RESTORE.
AND I'LL, I'LL USE AN EXAMPLE FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE BECAUSE THAT WAY WE MAYBE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH EMOTION ABOUT IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, ON THE NEW HAMPSHIRE STATE LICENSE PLATE, THEY LIKE TO PROFILE WHAT THEY CALL THE OLD MAN IN THE MOUNTAIN, WHICH IS THIS GRANITE STRUCTURE THAT LOOKS LIKE THE PROFILE OF A MAN.
AND IN 2003, BECAUSE OF SOME DIFFERENT WEATHER AND, UM, DIFFERENT IMPACTS, IT FELL OFF THE MOUNTAIN.
THE OLD MAN FELL OFF THE MOUNTAIN
AND SO IT WAS A BIG DEBATE IN THAT STATE WHETHER OR NOT TO RESTORE IT.
AND ULTIMATELY THEY DECIDED NOT TO.
BUT I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY BELOVED, YOU KNOW, ICONIC SYMBOL AND NATURE RAN ITS COURSE AND, YOU KNOW, DESTROYED THE SYMBOL.
AND SO I, I THINK THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE FACING IF WE AREN'T ALREADY FACING IT, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO FACE AS WE GET ALL THESE EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS.
AND I THINK THIS ADDS TO THE CHALLENGE AND THE COMMUNICATIONS CHALLENGE OF THIS.
AND I JUST WANNA SHARE THIS LONG COMMENT BECAUSE I THINK THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING.
WELL, I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AS WELL.
SO, UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I REALLY ENJOYED LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE, THE BREADTH, BREADTH AND DEPTH OF WHAT YOU DO.
IT REALLY IS EXTRAORDINARY, AND, AND YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB.
AND I ALSO LIKE THE PHOTOS TOO, ON THE SLIDES.
AND, UM, I AM EXCITED TO HEAR THAT THE SMALL TRAILS CREW IS FULLY STAFFED NOW.
AND ALSO, OF COURSE, THAT YOU'RE FOCUSED ON EXPANDING THE, THE YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM.
I, I LOVE THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT EVEN BE FAMILIAR WITH OUR PARKS, TO SEE, UM, A A NEW CAREER POSSIBILITY FOR THEMSELVES AND GET THIS EXCELLENT TRAINING AND THEN REALLY A CAREER LADDER INTO, YOU KNOW, GREAT JOBS HERE AT THE PARK DISTRICT OR, OR ELSEWHERE.
AND SO I REALLY, UM, REALLY COMMEND THAT, THAT WORK AND CERTAINLY THE WORK OF OUR PARTNERS ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? OH, I, YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE A QUESTION YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE WHEN THERE'S, UM, WHEN THERE'S ISSUES AND, AND HOW, LIKE A STORM AND DAMAGE AND HOW EQUITY MIGHT PLAY INTO THAT.
SO I HAVE A, A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW LIKE OUT IN PINOLA, I WENT OUT TO LOOK AT IT, UM, THE, THE BIG, UM, THE TRAIL THAT GOT WIPED OUT BY, UM, A, A LANDSLIDE OUT THERE ON THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY TRAIL.
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ONLY SORT LONG PATH THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK OR RUN OR BIKE, THAT ONLY OTHER, OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS SAN PABLO AVENUE.AND SO I WAS JUST, I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF ISSUES WITH THAT ONE, BECAUSE YOU NEED MONEY, IT'S EXPENSIVE, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, A LOT RIGHT THERE GOING ON.
UM, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, DOES THAT HELP TO, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZE THAT ONE OR HOW DOES THE EQUITY PIECE WORK IN THAT? THAT IS A BIG PART OF, UH, OUR VALUATION.
UH, AND I KNOW THAT PROJECT IS, UH, CURRENTLY WITH DECO RIGHT NOW, AND SO THAT'S STILL MOVING FORWARD, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT OF, UH, PROGRESS ON THAT.
THAT IS A TOP PRIORITY, AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO MEET DEADLINES THAT THEY SET, UH, FORWARD.
SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED WITH THAT, WITH UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD, AND THEN THE REFINERY AS WELL.
AND SO AS WE NEGOTIATE, YOU KNOW, OUR, UM, OUR EASEMENT, WHICH IS THE TRAIL, THAT'S THE BOUNDARIES OF, YOU KNOW, OUR JURISDICTION.
SO IT'S JUST, IT, IT, IT IS AT THE TOP OF OUR LIST.
WELL, WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I, I, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT IT IS VERY COMPLICATED.
I THINK THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, TRACKS ON BOTH SIDES AND, AND AS YOU SAY, THE REFINERY, AND THEN ALL, ALL KINDS OF THINGS HAPPENING OVER THERE.
SO OBVIOUSLY VERY COMPLICATED AND, AND, UH, AN EXPENSIVE PROBLEM TO FIX TOO.
WERE, WERE YOU GONNA ADD SOMETHING? YOU LOOKED LIKE YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING.
OH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT IS, UH, ROBERT ANSWERED THAT CORRECTLY.
AND THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS WHERE WE SAT DOWN WITH LAST YEAR STORM DAMAGE AND TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR FEMA ON THESE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE AT SUCH A HIGH PRIORITY AND, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, AS PRESENTATIONS STARTED WITH PUBLIC ACCESS.
AND THAT'S, UH, REALLY HOW THEY EVALUATE THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE DOWN IT IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
WELL, WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING PROACTIVE ABOUT THESE PROJECTS AND NOT WASTING WASTE, WASTE, UH, WAITING, EXCUSE ME, WASTING TIME WAITING FOR FEMA BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THAT TAKES A REALLY, REALLY LONG TIME.
AND, AND IF THESE, SOME OF THESE THINGS AREN'T FIXED, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST GONNA GET WORSE WHEN WE HAVE MORE RAINSTORMS. UM, AND I'M NOT EVEN GONNA PREDICT WHAT'S GONNA COME NEXT THIS YEAR, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'RE, WELL, I WON'T JINX IT
SO, UM, YEAH, SO ANYWAY, SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, FOR YOUR WORK ON, ON ALL OF THAT.
SHORT AND SWEET LIKE YOU PROMISED.
MY NAME IS JOE CHER, POLICE CAPTAIN WITH THE REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU, UH, PRESIDENT ECOL, REST OF THE BOARD.
VERY, VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU TO, UH, HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU ABOUT TRAIL MANAGEMENT.
UM, REALLY TWO THINGS, UM, THAT WE, I WANT TO GET ACROSS TO YOU TODAY IS GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF OUR METHODOLOGY OF RESPONDING TO ISSUES ON THE TRAIL, AND THEN TO PROVIDE YOU SOME STATISTICS FROM 2023 TO SHOW YOU, UH, OUR CAPABILITY, UH, AND KIND OF WHAT TO EXPECT.
UH, FOR THIS PRESENTATION, I'LL BE USING, UH, BICYCLE STATISTICS.
BY NO MEANS IS THAT THE ONLY THING THAT AFFECTS TRAILS WHEN IT COMES TO MANAGEMENT OR ENFORCEMENT, BUT IT IS A VERY CONVENIENT AND, UH, LARGE GROUP FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SHOW AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND DIVE RIGHT IN.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESPONSE METHODOLOGY, UH, IT COMES BACK TO A PROBLEM TRIANGLE FOR US.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING ALL OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN BEFORE IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, UH, BUT IT BREAKS DOWN INTO THREE, THREE SIDES OF THAT TRIANGLE, EDUCATION, ENVIRONMENT, AND ENFORCEMENT.
SO WHEN WE TAKE EACH THIS PROBLEM TRIANGLE AS A WHOLE, THE STRONGER THAT WE HAVE EACH ONE OF THOSE SIDES, THE MORE IMPACT WE'RE HAVING, UH, ON SQUASHING THAT, THAT CONCERN.
WHATEVER THAT CONCERN IS, WHETHER IT IS, UM, UH, ILLICIT BICYCLE USE OR ROBBERIES, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU PUT INTO THE, UH, THE MIDDLE OF THE TRIANGLE.
UH, IF YOU USE THIS METHODOLOGY, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE A, UH, POSITIVE IMPACT ON THAT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT EDUCATION, UM, A LOT OF WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IS BALANCE, UH, AND COOPERATION.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC
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SAFETY CAN DO ALONE.UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE RELY ON OUR PARTNERS, OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU'VE HEARD EARLIER FROM, UM, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FROM TRAILS AND ALSO FROM PUBLIC AFFAIRS.
UM, WE REALLY NEED, UH, A STRONG EDUCATION PIECE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE COMING TO RECREATE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RULES ARE SO THAT THEN, UH, WE SEE A GREATER INCREASE IN RULE FOLLOWING.
AND IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN WE DO HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THOSE RULES.
SO YOU SEE PUBLIC AFFAIRS, SOCIAL MEDIA OPS STAFF IS A HUGE FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR US.
OUR VOLUNTEER TRAIL SAFETY PATROL IS A HUGE RESOURCE ON THE EDUCATION SIDE OF THIS TRIANGLE, AND ALSO OBVIOUSLY, OUR OFFICERS WHO ARE OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UH, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE BOTTOM SIDE OF THE TRIANGLE ENVIRONMENT, WHEN WE SEE THAT ACCESS, UH, IS EQUITABLE, WHEN WE ARE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC, THE, UH, THE RATE AT WHICH THAT PUBLIC FOLLOWS OUR RULES GOES UP, WHICH MEANS THAT MAYBE THERE'S LESS ENFORCEMENT, UM, THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO OF WHATEVER THAT PARK IS OR WHATEVER THAT TRAIL IS.
SO, AS SEAN HAS TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT TODAY, UM, TRAIL DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO BE WELL THOUGHT OUT, AND IT NEEDS TO ENCOURAGE THE APPROPRIATE USE OF WHAT WE WANT CITIZENS OR PATRONS TO COME TO THE PARK AND USE OUR PARKS FOR.
AND OBVIOUSLY, I'M STANDING HERE IN A POLICE UNIFORM ENFORCEMENT IS OF THE UTMOST, UH, IMPORTANCE.
OFFICERS NEED ACTIONABLE INFOR INFORMATION TO BE ON THE SPOT AT THE TIME OF THE VIOLATION TO BE ABLE TO COMBAT, UH, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE FACING, UH, WITH ILLICIT TRAIL USE, WHETHER THAT'S, UH, DOG WALKING BICYCLES OR WHATNOT.
UH, ORDINANCE 38 IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
UH, IT IS OUR FOUNDATION OF A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS AS POLICE OFFICERS.
UM, AND THAT ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE UPHELD OR ELSE IT'S NOT WORTH MUCH.
SO WE HAVE TO BE OUT ENFORCING ORDINANCE 38.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE METHODOLOGY ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA RESPOND TO AN ISSUE LIKE, UM, SINGLE TRACK TRAILS OR ILLICIT TRAIL USE, UH, PATROL PRIORITIES ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US.
THIS IS THE WAY IN WHICH, UH, WE INTERACT WITH PARK STAFF, WITH THE PUBLIC, AND, UH, A WAY FOR THEM TO TELL US WHAT THEY'RE SEEING ON A DAILY BASIS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN THEN FORMULATE A, A PLAN TO GO OUT AND COMBAT THAT ISSUE.
SO A PATROL PRIORITY IS A REQUEST FOR DIRECTED PATROL FOR A DEFINED ISSUE AT A DEFINED LOCATION.
PATROL PRIORITIES ARE CREATED IN MULTIPLE WAYS.
UH, REPORTS FROM THE PUBLIC, EITHER FROM PARK WATCH REPORTS, CALLS TO DISPATCH, UH, AN OFFICER DETAIL, ET CETERA.
UH, WE DO A, UH, A, A REALLY GOOD JOB OF LIAISING WITH PARK OPERATIONS WITH OUR PARTNERS, UH, IN OPS WITH UNIT MEETINGS AND OFFICER TO RANGER INFORMATION SHARING ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
AND THEN FINALLY, YOU ALSO HAVE OFFICER OBSERVATIONS.
SO PATROL PRIORITIES CAN LAST ANYWHERE FROM A WEEK, UH, TO MULTIPLE MONTHS BASED ON A SPECIFIC ISSUE BEING ADDRESSED IN 2023.
BICYCLE RELATED, UH, PATROL PRIORITIES.
WE HAD 78 SEPARATE PATROL PRIORITIES RELATING TO BICYCLE ISSUES.
AND, UH, THESE INCLUDED SPEED THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, ILLICIT TRAIL USE, AND SPECIFICALLY THE BARONES, UH, PILOT PROJECT WHERE WE SPENT APPROXIMATELY 99 HOURS, UH, ADDRESSING, UH, THOSE PATROL PRIORITIES IN THAT PARK.
UH, OVERALL, OFFICERS SPENT 127 HOURS IN DIRECTED PATROLS, UH, FOR BICYCLE RELATED ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE RATIO OF HOW MUCH TIME WE ACTUALLY SPENT AT, UH, THE B'S PILOT PROJECT.
WHEN YOU LOOK ON A DAILY BASIS, UH, WE REALLY HAVE THREE BUCKETS OF WHAT WE CAN FIELD TO GO OUT AND HANDLE THESE ISSUES.
UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE HAVE OUR PATROL OFFICERS.
THERE ARE FIVE REGULAR PATROL BEATS, NOT COUNTING ANY OF THE, UH, ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS THAT WE FULFILL.
AND OFFICERS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO RESPOND TO CALLS, ACTIVE, UH, ACTIVE CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, CONDUCT PROACTIVE PATROLS OF THE DISTRICT AND PROPERTIES, AND ADDRESS THE PATROL PRIORITIES AS POSSIBLE.
SO THEIR FOCUS IS REALLY DRIVEN, UH, BY CALLS ON THE RADIO OR THEIR OWN, UM, ABILITY TO GO OUT AND FIND AN ISSUE AND THEN COMBAT THAT ISSUE.
UH, WHEN WE MOVE DOWN TO THE SPECIAL ENFORCEMENT UNIT, THAT METRIC OR THAT, UH, METHODOLOGY SOMEWHAT CHANGES.
UH, THESE EIGHT PERSONNEL, UH, TWO SERGEANTS, TWO EQUESTRIAN OFFICERS, TWO MARINE OFFICERS WHEN FULLY STAFFED, AND TWO DUAL SPORT OFFICERS ARE FOCUSED ON THE SPECIFIC DIRECTED PATROL THAT WILL MAKE AN IMPACT ON THESE IDENTIFIABLE ISSUES.
UH, THEY ARE CAPABLE OF OUR ALTERNATIVE MODES OF, UH, PATROL AND TRANSPORTATION, WHICH GETS THEM TO THE POINT WHERE THAT ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE EASIER OR MORE EFFICIENTLY.
UH, AND THEY ARE LESS TIED TO THE DAY TO DAY, UM,
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CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT MAY COME IN THROUGH DISPATCH.UH, THE LAST BUCKET THAT I'LL SPEAK OF IS OUR VOLUNTEER TRAIL SAFETY PATROL.
I KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE, UH, QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH OUR VTSP.
UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE AT 151 VOLUNTEERS THAT'S HIKING, BIKING, EQUESTRIAN, AND COMPANION DOG.
IN 2023, THEY SPENT APPROXIMATELY 6,300 HOURS OF WORK IN THE PARK BEING, UM, EDUCATION SOURCES OR A SMILING FACE, UM, IN THE PARK FOR, UH, FOR, UH, US TO KIND OF PROJECT, UM, ORDINANCE 38, UH, 167 OF THOSE HOURS WAS SPENT SPECIFICALLY AT THE B'S, UH, TRAIL PILOT PROJECT.
SO AT THIS POINT, I WANTED TO MOVE INTO SOME, UH, SOME STATISTICS AND TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY INCIDENTS.
SO FOR, UH, 2023, WE HAD 21,473 INCIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT SPANS EVERYTHING THAT WE DID INCIDENT WISE.
THE TOTAL BICYCLE AND E-BIKE INCIDENTS THAT WE HAD WAS 145.
SO WHEN YOU BREAK THAT DOWN, THAT'S ABOUT 0.67% OF TOTAL INCIDENTS FOR 2023 WERE BICYCLE RELATED, WHETHER THAT WAS E-BIKE OR, UM, REGULAR BICYCLE.
SO OF THOSE 145 TOTAL BICYCLE INCIDENTS, UH, 42 INVOLVED E-BIKES, THAT'S 29% AND 103 INVOLVED.
UH, JUST REGULAR PEDAL BICYCLES, BREAKING THAT DOWN EVEN DEEPER, UH, INTO CASES, UH, THERE WERE 1,483 CASES.
OF THAT 41 OF THOSE CASES, UH, WERE BICYCLE OR E-BIKE RELATED.
AND THAT ACCOUNTS TO ABOUT 2.7% OF TOTAL CASES IN 2023 WHEN YOU BREAK DOWN CASES BY BICYCLE AND E-BIKE.
THERE WERE, UH, FOUR CASES FOR E-BIKES.
ONE IN THE B'S PILOT PROJECT, THEY WERE ALL ACCIDENT RELATED.
AND FOR REGULAR BICYCLE, THERE WERE 37 CASES, TWO IN THE B'S UH, PILOT PROJECT.
35 OF THOSE, UM, WERE ACCIDENT RELATED.
THE OTHER TWO, UH, WERE FOR, UH, ILLEGAL AND ILLICIT TRAIL CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THAT FINAL NUMBER FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT, THE MY OFFICERS, UH, ISSUED 23 CITATIONS FOR BICYCLE RELATED ISSUES, AND 22 OF THOSE WERE IN THE BRI'S PILOT PROJECT AREA.
SO THIS KIND OF, UH, IT WRAPS UP, UH, THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION, AND THESE QUESTIONS ARE, I BELIEVE, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE STARTED WITH.
SO, UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR MY PORTION OF THE, OF THE PRESENTATION OR FOR THE PRESENTATION AS A WHOLE, NOW WOULD BE A GREAT TIME.
I, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND THEN I'LL
BUT JUST ON THAT VERY LAST SLIDE, YOU HAD BICYCLE INCIDENTS ACCOUNTING FOR 0.67% OF TOTAL INCIDENTS.
SO WHAT, UH, IF YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHAT IS THE BIGGEST INCIDENT? I MEAN, THE PERCENTAGE, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY TINY PERCENTAGE, I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT INCIDENT TYPE I, I MEAN, BEYOND BICYCLES.
I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER TO GIVE YOU A, AN ACTUAL ANSWER.
YEAH, I DIDN'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE IT AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, BUT I'M JUST STRUCK BY, YOU KNOW, WHAT A SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT IS.
SO I'M WONDERING WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE OTHER, UH, 99 PLUS PERCENT OF INCIDENTS.
UM, DIRECTOR CORBETT, I JUST HAVE A QUICK, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
SO SAYING THAT THERE WAS 23 BIKES THAT WERE IN, UH, SOME, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, ITEMS THAT HAPPENED, HOW MANY TIMES DO, UH, PEOPLE HEAR FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THERE'S, UM, THAT THEY'RE BEING ASKED NOT TO DO SOMETHING? PLEASE DON'T DO IT THIS TIME.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T, WE WON'T GIVE YOU A TICKET THIS TIME, BUT NEXT TIME, SO WHAT SORT OF NUMBERS DO WE HAVE, UM, WARNING PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY GET A TICKET THAT FIRST TIME? SO, I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, UH, CORRECTLY.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPEAKING OF WARNINGS GIVEN, YES.
SO THAT'S NOT A STATISTIC THAT I INCLUDED, BUT THAT IS AN SOME INFORMATION THAT I COULD GET BACK TO YOU, UH, WHEN I DO DO THE RESEARCH ON THAT.
BUT IN YOUR GENERAL THINKING, DO, DO WE GIVE A LOT OF, UH, IDEAS TO PEOPLE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU A TICKET THIS TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE SPECIFIC SITUATION, UM, I KNOW THAT SPECIFICALLY IF YOU TAKE THE BARONI PILOT PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THE FOREFRONT OF THAT ON THE EDUCATION SIDE OF OUR TRIANGLE.
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IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A MUCH LARGER PROPORTION OF, UH, WARNINGS TO CITATIONS.UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, SPIN UP TIME, UH, ACROSS THE REST OF THE DISTRICT, I, I WOULD HAVE TO GIVE YOU A A AN OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD GUESS.
UH, BUT IT'S PROBABLY TWO TO ONE OF, UM, UH, MORE SO TOWARD, UH, GIVING WARNINGS THAN GIVING CITATIONS.
YEAH, I LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
AND ALSO, UM, IF IT, IT DOES IMPROVED, IT DOES IMPROVE THE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'RE BORING PEOPLE AND THEY JUST DON'T DO IT THE NEXT TIME.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.
UM, WHEN I START THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH TERRITORY THERE IS TO COVER AND HOW MANY OFFICERS YOU HAVE, I, IT'S NOT LOST ON ME.
I TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DO NOTICE THAT, UH, A HUGE PROPORTION OF YOUR ACTIVITY HAS BEEN IN THE B'S, UH, PILOT PROJECT AREA, AND THAT'S APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING THAT'S NEW, AND IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE, YOU NEED TO BE, HAVE A PRESENCE ESTABLISHED IN THE BEGINNING TO, TO GET THE BEHAVIOR CHANNELIZED, YOU KNOW, IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT I HEAR ABOUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, I HAVEN'T, I, I'VE NEVER HAD A PERSONAL HAVE.
I, MOSTLY WHAT I HEAR ABOUT IS THE IRON HORSE TRAIL, AND WHAT I HEAR ABOUT ON THE IRON HORSE TRAIL IS GENERALLY BETWEEN DANVILLE AND THE SOUTH BOUNDARY OF WALNUT CREEK.
AND WHAT I HEAR IS, UM, SPEEDING BY, LET'S JUST SAY ANY BIKE, I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO CHARACTERIZE WHAT KIND OF BIKE IT IS, BUT SPEEDING AND NEAR MISSES AND CHILDREN ALMOST BEING KNOCKED OVER, DOGS ALMOST BEING RUN OVER.
I'M LITERALLY, I'M HEARING THIS STUFF.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WANNA KNOW, UH, THEY'VE NEVER SEEN ANY, ANY, ANY KIND OF ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE.
UM, I GO OUT THERE AND I DON'T SEE IT EITHER.
AND SO I THINK IT'S GETTING, AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR SENSE IS THAT IT'S GETTING WORSE.
UM, MAYBE BECAUSE I'M JUST SPECULATING, BUT THE USERS THAT ARE DOING THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR THINK THEY CAN DO IT WITH IMPUNITY, WHO'S GONNA CATCH ME? YOU KNOW? SO I FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF PRESENCE OUT THERE BY SOMEBODY WHO, WHO CAN, WHO EITHER ISSUE A WARNING OR A CITATION.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP IN A PRIORITY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOON.
UM, NOW I DID MEET WITH SOME FOLKS RECENTLY, AND WE WERE, WE KIND OF KICKED IT AROUND, AND I, I ASKED THEM, I SAID, WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO? THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD TECHNIQUE, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA, I, I DO THAT MYSELF.
IF I CRITICIZE, I TRY TO HAVE A SOLUTION IN MIND, YOU KNOW, SO THEY, THEY THOUGHT, THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, UM, WELL, PEOPLE DON'T, DON'T READ SIGNS, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T THE WORD 15 AS IN MILES PER HOUR, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, LOST.
SO, UM, THEY, THEY, UH, THEY'D LIKE TO SEE SOME EDUCATION GO ON OUT THERE IN THEIR AREA.
AND THE LATEST FOLKS THAT I SPOKE WITH WERE FROM ALAMO, AND THEY THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, WE SHOULD BE ATTENDING, WE SHOULD HAVE A TABLE, WE SHOULD HAVE, WE SHOULD DO TABLING AT PUBLIC EVENTS THAT ARE HELD IN THAT AREA.
EVERYTHING IN LMO IS NEAR THE IRON HORSE TRAIL, SO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THEY WOULD HAVE WOULD BE NEAR THE TRAIL.
SO LIKE, IF THERE'S A FAIR, THERE'S A CAR SHOW THERE, AND THIS SUMMER, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT UP A TABLE, HAVE BROCHURES, WHATEVER, HAVE SOMEBODY WITH A UNIFORM THERE AND KIND OF SPREAD THE WORD.
UM, I THINK THERE'D BE A LOT OF INTEREST IN, IN THAT AND, AND THOSE FOLKS.
SO, SO WHEN I SAY THAT, I THINK, I MEAN, ALAMO AND DANVILLE BOTH, YOU KNOW, UM, ULTIMATELY I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE IS THAT THE, THE TRAIL'S JUST NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR ALL THE USAGE.
IT'S, IT'S LIKE A, IT'S LIKE A, A ROAD THAT, THAT, OR, YOU KNOW, OR SOME OTHER FACILITY, A A SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH.
IT'S A TRAIL THAT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH.
AND, UM, I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO GET INTO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON.
UM, I, I, AND, AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE OFFICERS OUT COVERING THIS GIANT AREA THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT, IS IT A THIRD, THE SIZE OF RHODE ISLAND OR WHATEVER IT IS? I DON'T KNOW, THESE SIZE, UH, IT'S BIG.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK ABOUT, UM, OTHER POLICE, UM, ACTIVITY, POLICE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN OTHER PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME MOVEMENT GOING ON WHERE NOT ALL RESPONSES TO CALLS ARE MADE BY SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE YOU WITH
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A BLUE UNIFORM AND A GUN.YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO, SO, AND, AND THAT WORKS REALLY WELL.
I THINK IT'S KIND OF THE SOCIAL WORK KIND OF MODEL, YOU KNOW? AND SO I'M, I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, THINKING THAT MAYBE IF WE HAD SOMETHING, UM, THAT WAS, UM, NOT THAT LEVEL OF TRAINING AND AUTHORITY WHERE THEY HAD, BUT THEY STILL HAD THE AUTHORITY TO, NUMBER ONE, ISSUE WARNINGS, NUMBER TWO, ISSUE CITATIONS.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE COULD ABSORB.
WE COULD, WE COULD, WE COULD MAYBE CONVERT SOME POSITIONS INTO THOSE, GET MORE COVERAGE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AS EXPENSIVE AS A REGULAR SWORN OFFICER.
AND I KNOW, UM, LIKE IN THE CITY OF WALNUT CREEK, THEY HAVE RANGERS THAT ARE IN THERE.
THEY, THE RANGERS IN THE CITY OF WALNUT CREEK OPEN SPACE, HAVE A UNIFORM.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE A WEAPON OR NOT, BUT THEY ISSUE CITATIONS, AND I'VE SEEN, I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN THEM DO IT, YOU KNOW, UH, PAINTBALL STUFF GOING ON, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL THAT KIND OF THING.
SO I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE LOOK INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN LEVERAGE, GET THE MORE LEVERAGE WITH THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND ON TARGETED.
AND THIS MIGHT BE A TEAM THAT MOVES AROUND DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND THE DISTRICT ON THOSE, UM, EITHER IN SOMETHING LIKE BRIAN'S OR ON THOSE REGIONAL TRAILS THAT ARE PAVED WHERE THERE'S, I'M SURE IT'S NOT JUST THE IRON HORSE TRAIL, THERE'S, IT'S IN OTHER PLACES TOO, WHERE THERE'S JUST LIKE CRAZY RECKLESS STUFF GOING ON.
AND I'M, IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A MIRACLE THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A SERIOUS INJURY THAT I'VE, THAT I'M AWARE OF.
MAYBE THERE HAS BEEN, UM, FOR THAT.
UM, SO, UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING MAYBE AS PART OF THAT, OF THE, OF THE, OF THE EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH THAT WE MIGHT DO IN THESE AREAS IS THAT WE, UM, SURVEY THE, THE U THE TRAIL USERS AND GET THEM TO OFFER FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE THE, THE BIGGEST RISKS OUT THERE.
WHAT, WHAT DO THEY CONSIDER THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS AFFECTING THEIR USE OF THE TRAIL? SO THOSE ARE MY, MY IDEAS.
UH, IT'S A LOT TO CHEW ON, I KNOW.
BUT, UH, I, I, I JUST, AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I, ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M DOWN THERE IN THE SANON VALLEY, THAT I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THAT AND IT'S, AND I SEE IT AND, AND IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, I, I CAN SHARE ALSO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT I RECEIVE ARE ALSO IN REGARDS TO THE IRON HORSE TRAIL, WHICH IS ONE REASON WHY, UM, WE, WE MET THERE RECENTLY, DI DIRECTOR QUERO AND I, AT THE POINT WHERE THE IRON HORSE TRAIL MEETS BETWEEN OUR TWO COUNTIES, ALAMEDA AND CONTRA COSTA COUNTY.
UM, I DO ALSO FOLLOW OUR EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT POLICE'S SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND I DID SEE ACTUALLY RECENTLY THAT OUR, UM, HORSE UNIT WAS IN DANVILLE, UH, I THINK WITHIN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
SO ANY WAY WE CAN CONTINUE TO ELEVATE THAT MESSAGE.
UM, SO IT IS OUT THERE, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THE FOLKS THAT DR.
MECU MERO IS TALKING TO AND ALMOS SEE THAT I, I CAN'T COMMENT EITHER WAY.
UM, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST MAKE SURE THEY, THAT THEY KNOW THAT.
UM, AND I, I THINK, UM, I, I CAN ALSO SHARE THAT, THAT I KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE, UM, SERIOUS INJURY THAT DID HAPPEN ON THE IRON HORSE TRAIL AND AL ON THE ALAMEDA COUNTY SIDE.
SO IT HA THERE, THERE IS SOME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT EVEN GOT REPORTED TO US.
THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC AS WELL.
WE, WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL OF THESE CASES INCLUDED IN OUR, UM, IN OUR RECORDS.
UM, I THINK THE OTHER IMPORTANT POINT HERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO ISSUE WARNINGS AND CITATIONS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONLY IN NOVEMBER, UM, THAT WE LOOKED AT THIS NEW, WAS IT, WE WERE CALLING IT A FINE SCHEDULE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS.
DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? THAT YOU DO? YEAH.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU PRESENTED BOTH TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AND THEN WE VOTED AS A BOARD, I BELIEVE IS ON, UM, CONSENT, OR IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED BY US AS A BOARD.
AND, AND SO RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT, THAT IS SITTING WITH OUR, UM, WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT THERE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REVISIT IT IN REGARDS TO PARK RANGERS OR OTHER STAFF POTENTIALLY.
I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, UM, AGENDIZE IN THE NEAR TERM, BUT IT, IT DOES GIVE US MORE FLEXIBILITY GOING FORWARD.
AM I, AM I CAPTURING THIS CORRECTLY? SO CURRENTLY AS IT AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, UH, ADMIN CITATIONS ARE FOR, UH, SWORN STAFF TO, UM, ISSUE.
SOME, UM, SOME INCIDENCES AREN'T CAPTURED IN
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THE ABILITY TO GIVE AN ADMIN SITE DEPENDING ON IF IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN OR NOT.UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR VOLUNTEER TRAIL SAFETY PATROL REAL QUICK.
I THINK THEY DO SUCH AMAZING WORK, AND I KNOW DIRECTOR WASPY AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND TIME WITH SOME OF OUR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE VOLUNTEER TRAIL SAFETY PATROL IN THE PLEASANTON HOLIDAY PARADE BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2023.
AND THEY WERE SO, UM, INTERESTING TO SPEND TIME WITH.
'CAUSE THEY, THEY'RE, THEY SAID, OH, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, NEXT YEAR WE SHOULD HAVE SIGNS ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, MOST COMMON THINGS THAT WE SAY.
AND, AND THEY STARTED LISTING THEM AND THEY SAID, WE SHOULD HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT DOG ON A LEASH AND THAT'S NOT REALLY A TRAIL AND, YOU KNOW, PICK UP THAT PIECE OF GARBAGE.
'CAUSE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY SHARED WITH US, AT LEAST THE PEOPLE THAT WE WERE IN THE PARADE WITH OF THE MOST COMMON, UM, THINGS THAT THEY'RE SHARING AND THAT THEY'RE SAYING WHEN THEY'RE OUT ON PATROL IN OUR PARKS.
AND I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO HEAR, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO SHARE HERE IN THIS CONVERSATION AND, AND JUST HOW IMPORTANT THE VOLUNTEER TRAIL SAFETY PATROL IS IN REGARDS TO, UM, THINKING ABOUT TRAIL SAFETY.
UM, AND THEN I THINK EARLIER I HAD MADE A COMMENT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, OUR JURISDICTION IS WHAT IS, IS A LAND THAT WE MANAGE, LAND THAT WE OWN, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES.
YET THERE IS A LOT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT COME UP ONTO OUR LAND.
AND I KNOW I, I CITED A CASE, I, I KNOW OF A SERIOUS INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON A BIKE, NOT ON LAND THAT WE MANAGE, BUT NEAR DEL VAL.
AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE AVERAGE PERSON, THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE IT'S THAT CLOSE TO DEL VAL PARK.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT THE HUMAN SAFETY ELEMENT AS WELL, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE DO, JUST AS HUMAN BEINGS HAVE A DUTY TO SHARE THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S ILLEGAL.
SECOND OF ALL, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE SAFE, EVEN THOUGH OTHER PEOPLE APPEAR TO BE DOING IT.
AND IT CAN RESULT IN SERIOUS INDUSTRY.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE MANAGE THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY SPEND ALL OF OUR RESOURCES, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OR OTHER JURISDICTIONAL PROPERTY THAT'S OUTSIDE WHAT WE'RE MANAGING YET.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT STILL THINK THAT IT'S US.
AND SO THIS IS MORE OF A RHETORICAL QUESTION AND COMMENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT.
PLUS ALSO WHEN THERE IS A SERIOUS INDUSTRY INJURY, WHEN THERE IS A SERIOUS INJURY, UM, ON LAND NEAR, LET'S SAY DELVAL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK TO US.
'CAUSE WE ARE THAT AGENCY THAT'S THERE THAT HAS STAFF, UM, THAT ARE STATIONED THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, HOW WE MANAGE THAT, I'M NOT REALLY SURE YET.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO SHARE, ESPECIALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT HUMAN BEHAVIOR ELEMENT.
I THINK THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT HUMANS THAT WANNA BE ABLE TO GO ON THESE, YOU KNOW, SECRET TRAILS OR KIND OF DISCOVER THESE PLACES OFF THE BEATEN PATH.
LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DOES EXIST.
UM, AND SO HOW THAT IS PART OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS, I'M NOT SURE A, A THEME THAT I'M HEARING JUST KIND OF COMING OUT ORGANICALLY IS, UM, WHAT I, WHAT I'D LIKE TO EMPOWER THE BOARD IS WHEN YOU ARE GETTING, UH, THESE CONCERNS FROM CONSTITUENTS, I REALLY WANT YOU TO PUSH THEM TOWARDS US, UM, AND PROVIDE THEM, UH, AND WE CAN MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION ON HAND, BUT PROVIDE THEM INFORMATION FOR DISPATCH.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT GETTING THE SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU WERE GETTING, WE CAN'T PUT OUR TRIANGLE, UH, INTO PLACE.
UH, WE CAN'T SOLVE AN ISSUE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
UM, THERE ARE A PLETHORA OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE CURRENTLY, AND IF IT'S NOT EVEN ON OUR RADAR, THEN THERE'S NO CHANCE.
SO, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE HAVE A FAIR SHOT AT, UM, BEING SUCCESSFUL IN OUR MISSION.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF I HEAR SOMETHING, WOULD THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION MAYBE TO REACH OUT TO YOU DIRECTLY WHEN IT'S INVOLVING ONE OF THESE TYPES OF INCIDENTS, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
OR ASK THE CONSTITUENT TO CALL, UM, DISPATCH DIRECTLY AND REPORT THE INCIDENT.
EVEN IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON ACTIVELY.
THE SIMPLE FACT THAT AN INCIDENT GETS CREATED, THAT THERE'S A SPEEDING BICYCLIST ON BOLLINGER CANYON ROAD OR CROSSING BOLLINGER CANYON ROAD, THAT IS INFORMATION THAT THEN WE CAN TAKE AND DEVELOP A PLAN.
IF WE SEE THAT RISING TO THE TOP OF, UH, AN ISSUE THAT WE CAN THEN LOOK AT AND SAY, OKAY, AT 12 O'CLOCK LAST WEDNESDAY, OR EVERY WEDNESDAY AT LUNCHTIME, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SPEEDING BICYCLISTS IN THIS AREA.
I CAN PUT AN OFFICER AT THAT SPOT AND MAKE AN IMPACT.
SO, UM, ANY HELP THAT YOU COULD GIVE US IN THAT WAY IS, WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
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THANK YOU.UH, MY ONLY THOUGHT CAPTAIN IS I, I, TO ME IT'S ALREADY ON ALL OF OUR RADAR THAT THERE ARE BIKES SPEEDING CONSTANTLY ON THE REGIONAL TRAILS.
IN MY CASE, ALL THE MAJORITY COMPLAINTS I GET MOSTLY IN PERSON OUT THERE IN THE WORLD IS, UH, BICYCLES SPEEDING BY US ON THE BAY TRAIL.
IT'S AN IRON HORSE TO ME, IT'S THE BAY TRAIL.
UM, THE SALIENT POINT I THINK WAS MADE IN THE BRIEF, WE WERE PRESENTED FROM THE CHIEF, WHICH STARTS OFF WITH LIMITED STAFF ON A DAILY BASIS.
PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL ARE RESPONDING TO THE IMMEDIATE AND EMERGENCY NEEDS AND SO FORTH.
UM, YOU CAN'T HAVE OFFICERS CONSTANTLY PATROLLING THE BAY TRAIL, THE IRON HORSE TRAIL AND MARSH CREEK REGIONAL TRAIL.
UM, YOU CAN'T, AND YOU KNOW, AND IT, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THERE'S THIS SEVERE FEAR OF SOUNDING CRITICAL OF OUR POLICE FORCE WHEN, YOU KNOW, I'M A HUGE FANBOY OF OUR POLICE.
AND AS YOU, YOU GUYS KNOW THIS, UM, AND, AND OUR OFFICERS.
UM, BUT YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS OF PUBLIC SAFETY ENCOUNTERS WITH BIKES THROUGHOUT 2023 OR 78 ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, UH, UH, ENCOUNTERS 145 BIKE INCIDENTS, THE, YOU KNOW, IN EACH AND EVERY CATEGORY OF PUBLIC SAFETY ENCOUNTERS INVOLVING BICYCLES.
THESE NUMBERS ARE REALLY LITTLE, UM, AND REFLECTIVE OF THE IDEA.
AND IT'S NOT JUST, UM, BICYCLES OR IN PARK MOUNTAIN BIKERS BATHING BADLY.
WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE PARKING LOT SMASH WINDOWS ISSUES.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THESE ARE SOCIETAL ISSUES.
AND I'M BECOMING MORE AND MORE AND MORE, UH, IN TUNE WITH THIS AS A FUNDAMENTAL ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM THAT THE PARK DISTRICT HAS.
UM,
IT'S, YOU FOLKS HAVE A SEVERE PROBLEM ENFORCING THEM.
AND I JUST RE I, YOU KNOW, I JUST REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION WHEN I WAS FIRST APPOINTED TO THE BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, SO, AND IT, IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE CLEAR THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE.
SO I'M JUST ECHOING DIRECTOR RIO IN SAYING, THIS IS A GROWING PROBLEM BOTH IN THE PARKS AND ON THE REGIONAL TRAILS BECAUSE OF, UH, ESPECIALLY POST COVID, THE VOLUMES OF, UM, USERS WE HAVE, BE IT BICYCLES, PEOPLE, UH, OR, OR, OR JUST EVERYONE.
SO WE'RE HAVE INCREASED VOLUMES.
WE'RE CONSTANTLY OUR, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE COD IS CONSTANTLY BALANCING EVERYTHING WE DO BY HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH THESE VOLUME ISSUES.
UM, SO ONE FACET OF THAT IS ENFORCEMENT.
AND, UH, WHAT, WHAT DIRECTOR MCC AND, AND I THINK DIRECTOR S SIMON WE'RE TRYING TO ARTICULATE IS WE NEED SOME LAYER OF ENFORCEMENT THAT IS BETWEEN A PARK RANGER AND A, YOU KNOW, A SWORN OFFICER.
IN MY VIEW, I I, I RAISED THIS IN LIGHT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS CHART THAT WE GOT AND THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO IT SUBSEQUENT TO THE FACT THAT THIS DISTRICT, ALONG WITH PEN MID PENINSULA, UH, ENACTED A STATUTE THROUGH THE STATE LEGISLATURE, UH, ENABLING US TO ISSUE CITATIONS FOR NUISANCE.
INSTEAD OF HAVING TO SUE PEOPLE, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAD THE ABILITY TO WRITE CITATIONS.
AND I ASKED COUNSEL, JASON, UM, DOESN'T THAT INCLUDE BICYCLISTS DESTROYING HABITAT? AND HE SAID, ABSOLUTELY.
AND SO, YEAH, I HAVE THIS WONDERFUL IDEA.
WE SHOULD HAVE A FORCE OF HABITAT SECURITY PEOPLE.
LET'S HAVE A, LET'S HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO WRITE CITATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY CAN WRITE SPEEDING TICKETS, BUT IF THEY COULD, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.
UM, A GM GORIAN SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT DIRECTOR.
THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE CITATION CHART WE WERE LOOKING AT BECAUSE, UH, THESE EXAMPLES WE'VE HEARD OF, OF PERSONNEL ENFORCEMENT,
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PERSONNEL, SECURITY PERSONNEL BETWEEN A POLICE OFFICER AND, AND MAYBE JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, A PARK RANGER WHO DOESN'T HAVE THAT TRAINING IS THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL TRAINING INVOLVED, UH, BECAUSE WHEN YOU WRITE A TICKET TO A SPEEDING, BUT THAT PERSON COULD BECOME HOSTILE.UH, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW TOOL WITH BEING ABLE TO USE NUISANCE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE SWORN POLICE OFFICERS.
UH, AND I USED THIS EXAMPLE BEFORE PATROLLING, UM, OLD BRIAN'S ROAD, THE CREST AND BRIE'S, WHERE THE BICYCLISTS LIKE TO JUST CREATE TRAILS GOING OFF OF THAT ROAD TO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, SO SOME COMBINATION, IF WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT, HOW IT'S DONE AND WHAT THE BUDGET INVOCATIONS, WHAT THE POTENTIAL FUNDING IS THERE FOR, TO CREATE A HABITAT SECURITY FOR US, OR, YOU KNOW, UH, EQUIVALENT OF WHAT THE, THE CITIES WHO HAVE SPECIAL OFFICERS WHO JUST WRITE PARKING CITATIONS.
YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE THESE MODELS OUT THERE AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THEM AND FIGURING OUT HOW WE DO THAT IN LIGHT OF THE, UM, INCREASE IN VOLUMES AND THE DIFFICULTIES WITH ENFORCING, UM, IN, IN ESPECIALLY IN PARK WITH, UH, PRESERVATION OF HABITAT AND ON THE REGIONAL TRAILS, THE, THE VOLUME OF COMPLAINTS WE GET, UH, JUST WE, WE SHOULD AT LEAST FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
AND THAT WAS PART OF WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING TO SEAN AS HE COMES BACK AT US WITH RESULTS FROM THE BNOS TEST PILOT IS THINK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT AND LET'S TRY TO BE INNOVATIVE ABOUT IT EITHER WITH, UM, THE TYPE OF SECURITY PEOPLE WE CAN TRAIN AND, AND EN ENGAGE.
UH, AND I EVEN HEAR OF AGENCIES PATROLLING PARKS WITH DRONES, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS TO DO THIS AND MODELS OUT THERE, AND I'D REALLY LIKE US TO WORK IN, AND I THINK I'M JUST ECHOING WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN SAYING, THA THANK YOU.
AND WHAT YOU FOLKS DO IS WITH THE RESOURCES.
IT'S JUST FANTASTIC WORK YOU DO.
AND, UM, WHEN I'M OUT THERE, I, I JUST HEAR NOTHING BUT PRAISE FOR OUR POLICE FORCE AMONG OUR, OUR CONSTITUENTS AND OUR MAJOR USERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THEY EXPECT THERE TO BE POLICE JUST OUT PATROLLING THE, THE, THE TRAILS ALL THE TIME, JUST, BUT, UM, IT, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT RE REQUIRES, I THINK, US TO LOOK AT INNOVATIVE TECHNIQUES TO PURSUE.
APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION IMMENSELY.
THANK YOU, UH, DIRECTOR WASPY.
UH, THANKS JOE FOR THE REPORT, AND THANKS FOR ALL THE STATS.
I'M CONFUSED NOW WITH ALL THESE GREAT COMMENTS,
UM, SO I, I GUESS THE THING THAT REALLY MATTERS TO ME, OR I'M CONCERNED WITH IS, ARE THERE STATISTICS? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY, HOW MANY BIKE ACCIDENTS DID WE HAVE IN THE PARK DISTRICT? AND I KNOW THAT'S BIKE VERSUS BIKE, BIKE VERSUS PEDESTRIAN, BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE ALL THOSE STATS.
IS IS THAT AN IMPORTANT STAT? BUT WHAT WE JUST SAID IS, WELL, OKAY.
UM, SO IN 2023, WE RECORDED 39 BICYCLE ACCIDENTS, BOTH E-BIKE AND REGULAR BICYCLE, RANGING IN SEVERITY.
THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF SERIOUS INJURIES THAT, UH, OCCURRED THERE.
UM, FROM, THIS IS JUST OFF MY RECOLLECTION, I HAVE NOT DIVED DEEP ENOUGH, UH, TO GIVE YOU A, UH, A FOR SURE ANSWER.
UH, BUT A MAJORITY OF THEM WERE SOLO BICYCLE ACCIDENTS.
UM, THERE WERE CASES OF BIKE VERSUS BIKE AND BIKE VERSUS PEDESTRIAN.
I DON'T HAVE THAT BREAKDOWN FOR YOU.
UM, BUT OVERALL IT IS A, UH, EITHER A BICYCLIST ON A, ON A, UH, TRAIL THAT'S MAYBE OVER THEIR HEAD SKILL-WISE OR A, UM, GOING OFF OF THE IRON HORSE TRAIL ONTO A DEFECT ONTO THE SIDE OR TREE ROUTE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, GOING OVER THE HANDLEBARS, UH, MAYBE NOT WEARING APPROPRIATE PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.
UM, BUT THAT IS THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OR, AND POSSIBLY TAKING OFF ON A BOOTLEG TRAIL THAT WASN'T BUILT A STANDARD AND IS A LIABILITY TO US.
SO, I GUESS, AND I'M FOLLOWING UP, I, I KIND OF KNEW THE ANSWERS HERE, BUT I'M FOLLOWING UP.
SO, DID ANYBODY SUE ANYBODY THAT RAN INTO HIM ON A BIKE? DID ANY BIKE, DID ANY PEDESTRIAN THAT GOT HIT BY A BIKE SUE US? HAVE WE HAD ANY CLAIMS IN THE PARK DISTRICT SAYING, HEY, I TOOK OFF ON ONE OF YOUR TRAILS AND I BROKE MY NECK.
ARE YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT? DID WE HAVE ANY CASES LIKE THAT IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS? WELL, I'M AWARE OF AT LEAST ONE CLAIM IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WHERE A BICYCLE HIT LIKE A, UH, A, A PARKING BUMPER STRIP.
UM, AND THEY TOOK THAT TO SMALL CLAIMS COURT, AND THE PARK DISTRICT PREVAILED.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF IMMUNITIES FOR TRAILS AND FOR TRAIL BEHAVIOR.
THE POLICE HAVE DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER TO ENFORCE.
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NOT REQUIRED TO ENFORCE ORDINANCE 38.THEY CAN ONLY BE WHERE THEY CAN BE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, NO, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE ARE, ARE SUING US OVER THIS TYPE OF STUFF.
OKAY, WELL, THAT'S, THAT, THAT, THAT, MY OPINION CHANGES WITH THAT BECAUSE I, I HAVE THE SAME OPINIONS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
I HIKE EVERY DAY IN THE PARKS AND I GO, DREAMY CHRISTMAS, LOOK AT THAT GUY'S ZOOMING DOWN THE HILL AT ME.
AND THEN I GO, WAIT A MINUTE, I'M GOING UPHILL AT ONE MILE AN HOUR.
HE'S COMING DOWN AT 13 MILES AN HOUR.
IT LOOKS LIKE 70 WHEN THEY'RE COMING DOWN AT YOU.
BUT IT'S NOT, I, I, I, I'M GETTING PERCEPTIONS OF NO ONE'S GETTING HURT.
I I, THAT THAT CHANGES MY OPINION.
AND IF NOBODY'S SUING THE DISTRICT OVER BOOTLEG TRAILS, THAT'S GONNA CHANGE MY PERCEPTION.
ALSO, I, I GUESS THE, UM, I, I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH PEOPLE THAT, AND I KNOW THIS IS THE WAY EXTREME WITH THAT DUDE THAT WAS OUT THERE AND ANTHONY SHABO CUTTING DOWN TREES AND CREATING A TRAIL AND WAS OBSERVED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
AND THEN IT WAS A BIG DEAL THAT WE ARRESTED HIM.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT GUY? SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE OF, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, THE SPECIFIC ENFORCEMENT THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US AS A DISTRICT, UH, CONVEYING THAT TO EITHER DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO CONVEY CHARGES FOR WHATEVER THAT IS, IS A, IS IS HARD.
UM, THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF CHANGE THAT'S GOING ON IN, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM.
AND THERE'S ONLY SO MANY RESOURCES THAT GO AROUND.
OUR OFFICERS AND ESPECIALLY OUR, OUR DETECTIVES, DO AN AMAZING JOB OF TRYING TO CONVEY THE IMPORTANCE AND HOW MUCH OF AN OUTLIER FOR THAT SPECIFIC INCIDENT THAT GENTLEMAN WAS, AND THE, UH, THE DAMAGE, UM, THE GENERATIONAL DAMAGE THAT WAS CAUSED BASED ON HIS ACTIONS.
UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CASE CURRENTLY SITS, BUT I COULD GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT INFORMATION.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S KEY TO EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING AROUND HERE.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SPENT QUITE A LOT OF TIME, UM, A LOT OF RESOURCES.
UH, WE EVEN TRIED TO GET THE, OUR CHARGING DA OUT TO THE SITE TO TRY TO SHOW THEM WHAT THAT SCAR LOOKED LIKE.
UM, WE, I BELIEVE SPOKE WITH, UH, SEAN SPEAKING ABOUT, OR PARK STAFF AT THE VERY LEAST, SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO RESTORE THAT AREA AND HOW MUCH MONEY AND HOW MUCH TIME, AND HOW MUCH EFFORT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT FORTH TO GET THAT SPOT BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE.
UH, HE MADE A DECISION TO, UM, UH, TO SCAR THE LANDSCAPE IN THAT WAY.
SO, UM, A LOT OF PERSON POWER WAS SPENT ON THAT CASE SPECIFICALLY.
YEAH, I, I'D DEFINITELY LIKE TO HEAR THE OUTCOME, AND I'M SURE WE CAN FIND THAT OUT, RIGHT, BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN JUST COMING AWAY WITH IT, I, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ENFORCEMENT AND I, I SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT, BUT IF WE'RE ONLY, UH, OF THE 33 CITATIONS LAST YEAR, 32 OF THEM WERE IN, UH, UH, OR NO, 23 CITATIONS LAST YEAR.
22 OF 'EM WERE IN THE PILOT PROGRAM.
ONLY ONE IN THE REST OF THE DISTRICT.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU GUYS.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT HIKES THAT I WOULD BET 90% OF THE ACTIVITY THAT OCCURS ON TRAILS OCCURS WITHIN ONE MILE OF EVERY TRAILHEAD AND 1300 MILES.
THERE'S NO NEED TO GO OUT IN, UH, ON B'S CREST TRAIL.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, COMING OUTTA LAKE SAU, THE NIKE SITE FOR THAT FIRST HALF MILE AND THE 10 HILLS, AND WHERE IT'S TONS OF ACTIVITY AND THE POTENTIAL OF PEOPLE GETTING HURT AND THE POTENTIAL OF SOME BOOTLEG TRAILS IN THAT AREA, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S, I I THINK IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE'S FEELINGS ABOUT THINGS.
TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER DRESSED LIKE YOU'RE DRESSED IN A NICE BLACK AND WHITE, DRIVING DOWN THE, I, I LOVE IT WHEN I USED TO SOME, I FORGET WHO, OH, I'M NOT GONNA SAY WHO IT WAS, BUT WOULD DRIVE DOWN THE 10 HILLS TRAIL MUST HAVE BEEN FOR FUN, BECAUSE WATCHING FISHERMAN SCATTER, LOOKING AT A POLICE OFFICER GOING, OH, MY FISHING LICENSE, OH YEAH, I LEFT THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FEAR AND TREPIDATION OR THE COMPLIANCE THAT WAS, UH, SORT OF IMPLIED.
I, I THINK THAT JUST DRIVING BY IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
JUST YOUR PRESENCE OUT THERE IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT, UM, I THINK COLIN MENTIONED IT.
WE DO ARE OUR FOLKS, CSOS, I APOLOGIZE, I'M SORRY.
THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE IN THE WHITE TRUCKS.
CSOS IS, I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY A BETTER NAME.
UH, SO, UH, POLICE SERVICES TECHNICIAN, PARDON ME, I PSTS, HOW MANY OF THOSE FOLKS DO WE HAVE? SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE SPOTS FOR FOUR, WELL, FOUR PATROL, UH, UH, PSTS.
UH, WE'RE DOWN ONE AND WE'RE IN THE HIRING PROCESS FOR THAT PERSON.
'CAUSE I, I, I AGREE WITH COLIN.
I THINK JUST SOMEBODY OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A, A SWORN OFFICER SPENDING THEIR TIME SITTING AT THE BASE OF SOME,
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SOME SPEED RACING TRACK FOR ANYBODY THAT'S SPEED RACING DOWN THAT HILL.BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE JUST TO GET THAT WORD OUT THERE AND GET ONE CITATION OUT THERE SPEAKS VOLUMES.
I THINK, SIR, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
AND, UM, STATISTICS GIVE YOU A BASIC LEVEL OF FACTS, BUT THE PERCEPTION OR THE PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU PUT ON THOSE STATISTICS DO MATTER.
AND THAT'S, UH, I SEE PART OF MY ROLE, UH, IN THIS.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THOSE ENFORCEMENT, UH, STATISTICS FOR BICYCLE CITATIONS, WHAT I SEE IS WHEN YOU GIVE US A DEFINED GOAL AND, UH, WE IMPLEMENT OUR TRIANGLE, RIGHT? WE GET EVERY ASPECT OF THE DISTRICT INVOLVED IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT SPECIFIC FOCUS LOCATION.
I CAN GIVE YOU RESULTS THAT YOU WANT.
UH, IT IS WHEN THE, THE, THE AREA IS ILL-DEFINED THE TIME IS ILL-DEFINED, UM, UH, THAT MAKES IT EXPONENTIALLY HARDER ON US, UH, WITH THE LIMITED NUMBER OF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU EXPECT.
UH, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ARE THERE, YES.
UM, ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR PARTS OF, OR PARKS IN THE DISTRICT THAT HAVE MORE OF THESE ISSUES TO DEAL WITH ANY PARTICULAR PARKS AREAS? IF, IF YOU SEE AN INCREASE OR IF YOU KNOW OF A PARK THAT HAS, UH, AN ELEVATED LEVEL OF MULTI-USE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE TRAIL CONFLICT.
UM, AND CONFLICT MAYBE IS TOO STRONG OF A WORD.
UM, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY SEEING F TO CUFF CONFLICT, WE'RE, BUT CONFLICT OVER USAGE.
AND, UM, AS OUR USAGE MODEL CHANGES, UM, AND THAT GOES TO THE TRIANGLE OF ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT IN SOME FORM OR FASHION TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE WHAT THE EXPECTATION OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC HAS FOR THE PARK DISTRICT.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, B'S TILDEN, PLEASANTON RIDGE, LAKE CHABOT, UH, ALL OF OUR REGIONAL TRAILS ARE NOT ONLY USED FOR RECREATION, BUT ALSO, UH, WE SEE DRAMATIC INCREASES, UM, AT COMMUTE TIME IN THE MORNING, LUNCHTIME AND COMMUTE TIME AT NIGHT.
OUR TRAIL, OUR REGIONAL TRAILS ARE BEING UTILIZED AS THEY'RE INTENDED, UH, TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF ROADWAYS, UH, DRIVING VEHICLES.
UM, BUT THAT INCREASED USAGE HAS PROBLEMS THAT, THAT BECOME ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SOMEBODY WHO'S USED TO A LEISURELY STROLL AT 1130, UH, ON THE IRON HORSE TRAIL, MAY AT SOME POINT FOR 15 MINUTES GET 15 OR 16 BICYCLES THAT ARE TRYING TO GET TO LUNCH AND THEN BACK, UH, TO WHERE THEY WORK.
SO ANYWHERE THAT, THAT, UM, AND ALL OF, YOU KNOW, THE PARK DISTRICT IS AS WELL AS I DO, UM, YOU, I THINK YOU, YOU ALL KNOW WHERE THE HIGH LEVEL OF, OF BIKE USAGE IS.
UM, AND THAT'S ALSO, UH, CHANGED SOMEWHAT BY WHAT WE'VE CREATED OR THE WORK THAT SEAN'S, UM, SEAN IS CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN.
UH, SOME OF THAT HAS MOVED NORTH, UH, TO, UH, CROCKETT HILLS BECAUSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PROJECT THERE FOR BICYCLE SPECIFICALLY.
SO IS THAT, IS THAT THE FACT PLACES WHERE THERE'S MORE, UM, MORE OF THOSE ISSUES, YOU GET MORE AND MORE, UM, ISSUES, PROBLEM ISSUES WITH BIKE USERS, PARTICULAR DISTRICTS ARE MUCH, MUCH WORSE.
WHAT I FOUND IN MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL PARK USER IS VERY CONNECTED TO THE PARK THAT THEY USE AND THE WAY IN WHICH THEY USE IT, AND IT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO THEM.
UM, AND IF THAT STARTS TO CHANGE, YOU GET A VERY STRONG, SOMETIMES EMOTIONAL REACTION, UH, TO THAT PERCEIVED CHANGE.
AND I THINK YOU CAN TELL THAT SOME PARKS ARE USED MORE BY THESE KIND OF RACING BIKES JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE ACTUAL GEOGRAPHY OF THE LAND IS IN THOSE PLACES, AND SOME ARE MUCH HARDER THAN OTHERS.
I THINK DIRECTOR MCCAREY HAD ONE LAST THING.
ONE, ONE THING THAT, UM, OCCURRED TO ME HERE, AND THAT IS, KEEP IN MIND, WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND THAT, UM, JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY ISN'T HIT BY A BICYCLE DOESN'T MEAN THAT DAMAGE HASN'T BEEN DONE.
THERE'S A CERTAIN STRESS LEVEL THAT OCCURS WHEN IT HAPPENS DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY, OR EVEN JUST ONCE.
I MEAN, I, WE CAN ALL DO ANECDOTAL REPORTS HERE.
CONTRA COSTA CANAL TRAIL, SOMEBODY WENT BY ME, NO CALL OUT, NO BELL AND BRUSHED MY SHOULDER GOING AT LEAST 15 MILES AN HOUR.
IT'S LIKE, AND I, I PROBABLY SAID SOMETHING THAT I WOULDN'T TELL MY MOTHER, BUT ANYWAY,
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WE MAY, PEOPLE MAY GIVE UP ON OUR REGIONAL TRAILS.I'M, I'M GONNA FOCUS ON THOSE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE BECAUSE THEY KEEP HAVING THESE INCIDENTS OF THESE THINGS HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW, I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE IN WHERE I LIVE AND, UH, AND THE, THE, THE LIME RIDGE OPEN SPACE IN WALNUT CREEK, I'LL CALL 'EM OUT.
THEY DON'T DO ANY ENFORCEMENT THERE.
I DON'T GO THERE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S ALL OVERRUN BY BIKES, AND THEY DON'T UNDER, THEY DON'T, THERE'S CRAZY STUFF GOING ON THERE.
AND I'VE GOT OUR TRAILS TO GO ON, WHICH ARE MUCH CALMER AND PEACE, PEACEFUL.
UM, I DON'T GO THERE ANYMORE, AND I DON'T WANT THAT HAPPENING TO THE IRON HORSE TRAIL, ALTHOUGH SEEMINGLY THAT WOULD SOLVE THE CONGESTION PROBLEM.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
UM, I REALLY WANNA SEE, I'LL, I'LL JUST ASK YOU RIGHT NOW, PLEASE DO SOMETHING ON THE IRON HORSE TRAIL BETWEEN DANVILLE AND ALAMO.
AND IF I GET ANY, UM, AND, AND WHEN I TALK TO FOLKS, I'LL ASK THEM IF THEY SEE THAT GOING ON, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CAPTAIN, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.
UM, I, I'M HEARING YOU LOUD AND CLEAR JUST IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BREADTH OF THE TERRITORY THAT YOU ALL POLICE, AND YOU DO HAVE A SHORT, UH, A SMALL, A RELATIVELY SMALL STAFF AND REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR EFFORTS AND ALSO YOUR, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO, TO BE HERE AND PRESENT AND HEAR WHAT ALL WE HAVE TO SAY.
AND, AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK MY TWO BIG THINGS, ONE IS REALLY THE NEED TO PRIORITIZE, WHICH YOU, YOU HAVE SAID, AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SAID, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T COVER EVERYTHING.
AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT THAT BRIAN'S PILOT PROJECT THIS YEAR WAS, OR, AND IS A PRIORITY.
AND SO THAT, THAT IS APPROPRIATE THAT WE SEE THAT LEVEL OF CITATIONS AND, UM, OUT THERE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING REALLY IS I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR ASKING US FOR INFORMATION.
'CAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT IF, AND IF YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE IT ON YOUR RADAR, HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY DEAL WITH IT? SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, IF, ESPECIALLY FOR SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE HEAR ABOUT OR THINGS THAT HAPPEN REGULARLY, OR IF THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT WE SEE OR WHATEVER, OR SOMEONE'S COMPLAINING ABOUT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO YOU BECAUSE PEOPLE MIGHT TALK TO US, THEY MIGHT NOT TALK TO YOU.
UM, SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU, YOU GET THAT INFORMATION.
I MEAN, I REALIZE THE GENERAL STUFF, LIKE, OH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL.
BUT, BUT IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S OTHER STUFF THAT IS HELPFUL, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD, SHOULD, AND CERTAINLY I WILL RELAY IT TO YOU IF I HEAR ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT WITH THAT, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR PRESENTATION AND, AND, UM, IT'S VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE.
THANK YOU FOR SPENDING YOUR AFTERNOON ON THIS.
UM, AND I WANT TO THANK CAPTAIN KOCHER AND ROBERT KENNEDY AGAIN.
UH, THEY WEREN'T BEGGING TO BE AT A BOARD WORKSHOP, AND THEY, THEY, AND I, BUT I THINK THIS, THIS FORMAT WAS REALLY GOOD TO HEAR THIS DISCUSSION, UH, AND, AND HOW IT RELATES TO THE TRAILS WORLD.
UM, AND I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY TIME FOR, UH,
BUT, UM, I, AND SO I'M JUST GONNA SNEAK OVER HERE, AND THAT'S ALL THREE MAJOR TOPICS, THAT'S ALL.
BUT WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UM, MR. LAFORCE HAS BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY AS WELL.
UM, IT'S, UH, I KNOW IT'S LATE IN THE DAY, UH, AND I'LL TRY TO BE AS A BRIEF, AND MOREOVER, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT, UH, IS MORE THAN JUST A FEW MINUTES OF TALKING ABOUT IT UP HERE.
SO I WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO PUT SOME THOUGHTS TOGETHER IN WRITING AND GET THEM TO THE BOARD.
UM, I TOO APPRECIATE ALL THE, THE INFORMATION.
THIS HAS BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE, AND I THANK THE, UH, THE STAFF IN PARTICULAR FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
UM, IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT SUBJECT AND ISSUE.
UM, AND, UH, WE LAID OUT THE, UM, THE REAL DIFFICULTIES AND, AND PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE WITH ANY PUBLIC AGENCY, UH, WITH, UH, ESSENTIALLY LIMITED RESOURCES TO DEAL WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS AND ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE.
UM, LET ME SAY JUST A FEW THINGS.
FIRST, UH, I APPRECIATE, UH, DIRECTOR COFFEE'S COMMENTS ABOUT HAVING A RIGOROUS AND FULL, UH, UH, ANALYSIS OF ALTERNATIVES FOR THE WILDCAT FLOW TRAIL, UH, PROPOSAL.
UH, AND I THINK THAT, WELL, I APPRECIATE WHAT THE STAFF HAS SAID.
I, I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW WHERE THIS DOCUMENTATION IS THAT SHOWS THAT IT'S COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES, OR THAT THEY DID A, UH, AN ANALYSIS THAT, UH, UH, LED THEM TO, UH,
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UH, FEEL THAT THE, UH, WILDCAT LOCATION WAS THE, THE BETTER LOCATION.I'VE NOT SEEN ANY OF THAT DOCUMENTATION, UH, AS TO HOW THAT ANALYSIS WAS DONE, WHAT THE DATA IS, AND, UH, WHY, UH, THE CONCLUSION WAS REACHED THE WAY IT WAS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR TRANSPARENCY TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
AND I THINK THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT.
UM, I REALLY THINK THAT THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A, UH, A LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT DONE, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
IT'S A RECREATIONAL PROPOSAL, RECREATIONAL UNIT PROPOSAL THAT FALLS UNDER THE CLASSIFICATION THAT REQUIRES A LUPA.
UH, AND FINALLY, WITH REGARD TO THIS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO KNOW THERE WAS REFERENCE TO A DONOR, UH, DONATING MONEY FOR THIS.
I'VE YET TO SEE, OR ANY DOCUMENTATION THAT IDENTIFIES WHO THIS DONOR OR DONORS ARE.
AND I THINK, AGAIN, THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO KNOW THIS.
UH, AND THIS SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT IS SOMEHOW SECRET OR KEPT OUT OF PUBLIC VIEW.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD GET SOME INFORMATION AS TO WHO THE DONOR OR DONORS ARE.
UM, WITH REGARD TO OTHER ISSUES, I THINK THERE, TO ME, THERE WAS, UH, UH, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE FURTHER AND MORE AND DEEPER EVALUATION OF THE IMPACT OF BAROQUE TRAILS AND, UH, HOW THEY GET, UM, HOW WE CAN SOMEHOW DEAL WITH THEM, UH, AS PART OF THIS ISSUE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF TRAILS.
THE ROGUE TRAIL ISSUE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE THAT'S A REAL, UH, NUT TO TRY TO CRACK HERE.
UM, I THINK ALSO THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE CONDITIONS, UH, OF THE, OF THE VARIOUS TRAILS, PARTICULARLY THE HIKING TRAILS.
I KNOW I'VE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAID THAT THE, UM, THE HIKING TRAILS IN THE B'S, UH, AREA ARE VERY, UH, IN VERY POOR CONDITION AND CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS.
AND SO THAT NEEDS TO BE, I HOPE I CAN JUST SAY A FEW MORE COMMENTS, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UM, WE KNOW THAT NINE FROM THE DATA AT B'S, 90% OF THE USERS, AT LEAST FROM THE LAST DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED, ARE HIKERS.
UH, SO THEY'RE THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO USE B'S.
UH, THEREFORE, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CLOSER ANALYSIS OF THE CONDITIONS OF THOSE TRAILS IN TERMS OF PRIORITIES.
UM, YOU ARE CLEARLY, LIKE EVERY PUBLIC AGENCY, UH, AN AGENCY WITH LIMITED FUNDING.
UM, AND I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A METHODOLOGY FOR HOW YOU'RE GONNA ALLOCATE YOUR LIMITED RESOURCES AMONG THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USERS.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF 90% OF THE USERS ARE HIKERS OR PEDESTRIANS, THEN ONE COULD REASONABLY ARGUE THAT 90% OF YOUR FUNDING, FUNDING ON TRAILS SHOULD GO TO PROMOTING OR PRESERVING, PROTECTING, UH, HIKER USE.
UH, WHILE 8%, AGAIN, USING THE VARONIS, UH, STATISTICS ARE FOR BIKES.
THEN, UH, MAYBE ONLY 8% OF THE, UH, FUNDING FOR EITHER FOR CREATION OF TRAILS OR MAINTENANCE OF TRAILS GOES FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UH, USE.
THAT'S ALL I'M POINTING OUT HERE TODAY.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S NEEDS TO BE SOME WAY OF HOW YOU'RE GONNA BE ALLOCATING YOUR LIMITED RESOURCES IN A WAY THAT'S FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO THE ACTUAL USER GROUPS THAT, THAT USE THE TRAILS.
UM, AND FINALLY, AND, AND I'LL JUST SAY ON THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM, I REMEMBER FROM THE NOVEMBER, I THINK IT WAS THE EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING, THERE WAS THE STAFF REPORTED THAT THE COST FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF, OF THE, UH, WILDCAT TRAIL WAS GONNA BE, FLOW TRAIL WAS GONNA BE LIKE $300,000.
THERE WAS A NUMBER THROWN OUT WHERE THE STAFF BASICALLY SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY.
UM, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WAS SAID AT THE MEETING, BUT I, I REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT THE, THE PARK DISTRICT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO MAINTAIN THAT WILDCAT FLOW TRAIL ONCE IT'S, ONCE IT'S CONSTRUCTED.
UH, THAT RAISES A LOT OF ISSUES, AGAIN, AS TO PRIORITIES AND ALLOCATION OF USES.
UM, FINALLY WITH REGARD TO THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, UM, YEAH, THIS IS A BIG
I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE, FROM THE BOARD ON THAT.
AND THEY'VE HIT THE, I THINK, THE NAIL ON THE HEAD THERE, PARTICULARLY DIRECTOR, AGAIN, DIRECTOR COFFEE, SUGGESTING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO DEAL WITH THESE, HOW WE DEAL WITH ENFORCEMENT.
I WOULD JUST SAY IN CLOSING ON THIS, THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT ALL THE OTHER CATEGORIES ARE OF THE 21,473, UH, INCIDENCES WERE, OR TYPES OF, UH, YOU KNOW, OCCURRENCES THAT, UH, SO WE GET SOME PERSPECTIVE AS TO WHAT REALLY IS AT HEART GOING ON IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT, UH, AND COMPARE IT TO WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE, THE BICYCLE USAGE, UH, AND THOSE ISSUES.
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GO OVER, BUT I THINK I'VE SPOKEN ENOUGH.UM, ECCLES, WE HAVE, UH, ONE MORE SPEAKER, UM, IN THE ROOM, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SCOTT BARBA IN THE, UM, ZOOM ROOM.
UH, KELLY, A YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
QUICK COMMENT ON THE PUBLIC, UH, SAFETY AT, UH, UH, YEAH, I, I'D SUGGEST ALIGNING WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, OR WHAT THE SIGNS YOU PUT UP WITH THE, UH, EVENTS, PUBLIC SAFETY EVENTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING.
FOR EXAMPLE, AT MISSION PEAK, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT EVERY WEEK OR ROUGHLY ON AVERAGE ONCE A WEEK, YOU GET SOME, UH, MEDICAL EVENT, HEAT RELATED, HEAT STROKE, WHATEVER.
UM, AND THE LAST SIGN I SAW A BEAUTIFUL NEW SIGN.
THIS IS THE CREATIVITY OF THE PARK DISTRICT.
SOMETHING ABOUT POISONOUS MUSHROOMS,
I, I, I AGREE AND I'D LOVE MUSHROOMS. UM, THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP WITH, UH, TRAIL, DEVELOP THE TRAILS PROGRAM, AND THERE'S 1920 DOTS ON HERE, AND IF YOU DRAW A LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT HAND, UH, VERTICAL LINE, YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE VERTICAL LINE THAT'S CALLED EAST PART, YOU SEE VERY FEW DOTS OUT THERE.
AND I JUST WANNA HEAD OFF THIS, UH, THIS AND EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S SH A, A FEWER NUMBER OF DOTS ON THE EAST SIDE IS ACTUALLY, UH, JUSTIFIABLE.
MAYBE THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO, TO DO TRAILS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, THIS POPULATION DENSITY MAP, UH, AND IT SHOWS FEWER PEOPLE OUT THERE, SO A LOT FEWER, IT SHOWS A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE LEFT, FEWER PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT.
SO MAYBE, UH, THERE SHOULD BE A LOT OF DOTS IN OAKLAND OR WHEREVER.
UH, AND THEN, UH, UM, ANOTHER THING ABOUT, ABOUT THIS PATTERN IS YOU GET THIS NEW STANDARD PATTERN OF LAND DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU PEOPLE PUT, UH, UH, URBAN, URBAN LIMITS, URBAN, WHATEVER, BOUNDARIES.
AND YOU GET, UH, SO THE SUBURBS WERE BEING BUILT OUT, AND THEN SUPPOSEDLY NOW WE'RE GONNA STOP AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE LAST ROW OF HOUSES OUT THERE.
AND THE, THERE'S GONNA BE A NATURAL CONFLICT, A NATURAL DIVERGENT, A NATURAL, UH, DIVERGENCE OF INTEREST WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE LAST ROW OF HOUSES WANT TO KEEP THAT, UH, EMPTY.
AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T EVEN WANT THE, SOME GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO BUY THAT LAND AND TRY TO MAKE IT INTO A PARK, OR MAKE IT INTO A TRAIL OR WHATEVER.
THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING GOING ON OUT THERE.
THEY DON'T WANT THESE HIKERS OR BIKERS OR DOGS OR ANYTHING TO BE WALKING UP AND DOWN, WHATEVER.
UH, THEY WANT IT ALL EMPTY AND BEAUTIFUL VISTAS.
UM, WHEREAS, UH, AGENCIES LIKE THIS, LIKE TO BUY THE LAND AND THEN MAYBE, UH, MAKE A PUBLIC TRAIL OUT OF IT, UH, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT INTEREST WHERE YOU HAVE, DO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT URBAN ZONE, SHOULD THEY BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND VISIT PARKS? OR DO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE LAST OUTER RING SHOULD THEY BE GIVEN PREFERENCE AND PRIORITY AND ALLOWED TO KEEP EVERYTHING EMPTY FOR THE MAJESTIC GLORY OF THEIR BUSINESS? THANK YOU.
WELL, I THINK UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING, THERE'S, THERE'S, OH, SORRY.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO MOVE IN THE ZOOM ROOM INTO, I CAN'T SEE THE ZOOM ROOM.
DON'T WANNA CUT ANYBODY OFF, JUST GIVING HIM A FEW MINUTES TO GET OVER.
SCOTT, CAN YOU HEAR ME? Y YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.
OKAY, SIR, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, UH, BOARD AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENT TODAY.
UM, SCOTT BARBA, BICYCLE TRAILS COUNCIL OF THE EAST BAY, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME YOU SPENT TODAY, UM, ON THE WORKSHOP ON TRAILS.
UM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO START YOUR VIDEO NOW.
UH, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU'VE SPENT ON THIS, AND THANK YOU STAFF, UM, FOR, FOR THE PRESENTATIONS AND THE WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS, UM, AS WELL.
UM, I, I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO A A A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD TODAY.
UM, I THINK CAPTAIN KOCHER, UM, HAD THE, CALLED IT THE TRIANGLE OF ENFORCEMENT, AND ONE OF THE LEGS OF THE TRIANGLE, UM, HAD TO DO WITH EQUITABLE ACCESS.
UM, I HEARD THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS,
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MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, DWELLING ON THE ENFORCEMENT PART OF THE TRIANGLE, BUT I DID NOT HEAR ANYBODY TALK ABOUT THE LACK OF EQUITABLE ACCESS AND THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON THE SITUATIONS.UM, THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT LEG OF THE TRIANGLE, UM, AND IT DRIVES A LOT OF THE BEHAVIOR.
UM, I THINK THE BROWNIES PILOT IS, IS SOME EVIDENCE TO THAT THEORY, UM, WITH PROVIDING ACCESS THERE, ALTHOUGH IT'S TEMPORARY, UM, THAT HAS SEEN CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR.
UM, I SUSPECT THAT MOST OF THE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AT THE BROWNIES PILOT WERE AT THE BEGINNING OF IT AND, AND NOT THROUGHOUT IT.
UM, SO I, I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT PART OF THE, THE PRESENTATION TODAY.
UM, I I THINK IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT.
UM, THE, THE ROGUE TRAIL BUILDING, AGAIN IS PART OF THAT LACK OF EQUITABLE ACCESS.
UM, AND AGAIN, AT, AT B'S I THINK THERE'S POSITIVE IMPACT THERE.
UM, WITH, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE WILD CAMP FLOW TRAIL PROJECT, UM, WE, WE DID NOT BELIEVE THAT, UH, IT IS A RECREATION UNIT.
AS WE LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN, UM, A, A SINGLE TRAIL, A PROJECT FOR A TRAIL, UM, DOES NOT FIT WITH THE DESCRIPTION OF A RECREATION UNIT IN, IN THE, THE MASTER PLAN.
UM, WE, WE THINK THAT IS A, A, UM, A GOOD PROJECT.
UM, I, I THINK STAFF HAS MORE INFORMATION AND, AND COULD HAVE PREPARED A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION OF OPTIONS THAT WERE CONSIDERED.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT THEM TO ALL BE EVALUATED AT THE SAME LEVEL.
I THINK NORMAL RECOGNIZED PROJECT METHODOLOGY WILL GO THROUGH A SCREENING CRITERIA TO LOOK AT A VARIETY OF OPTIONS AT A HIGH LEVEL, AT, AT AN ECONOMICAL LEVEL, UM, AND THEN NARROW IT TO THE MOST LIKELY CANDIDATES OR A SINGLE CANDIDATE, AND THEN GO INTO MORE DEPTH, INTO DETAILED DESIGN AND REVIEW FOR THAT.
SO I, I THINK IT IS UNREASONABLE AND NOT THE BEST SPENDING OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO REVIEW EVERY, UM, OPTION AT THE SAME LEVEL OF DETAIL.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME YOU PUT INTO THIS.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO MAKE COMMENT AND, UM, ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY FOR SPENDING THE AFTERNOON WITH US, A VERY INFORMATIVE WORKSHOP TODAY.
UM, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 4:49 PM THANK YOU.