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WE'RE MEETING TODAY ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH, BEGINNING AT 9:30.
[Roll Call]
CAN THE RECORDING SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.SURE. SO THIS SHOULD BE UNMUTED, RIGHT? CAN YOU HEAR ME? SOUNDS LIKE YOU CAN HEAR ME.
SO THIS IS THE DEFERRED COMPENSATION.
THIS IS CONNIE SWISHER, RECORDING SECRETARY, TAKING ROLL CALL VOTE.
PRESENT. MONICA ALVAREZ-SELLES HERE, BEN GUZMAN.
THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO THE BROWN ACT.
WE ARE PROVIDING LIVE VIDEO AND AUDIO STREAMING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT CAN DO SO ONE OF THE FOLLOWING WAYS.
LIVE IN PERSON OR VIA THE ZOOM MEETING BY SUBMITTING AN EMAIL OR LEAVING A VOICEMAIL.
THIS INFORMATION IS NOTED ON THE AGENDA LOCATED AT THE PARK DISTRICT WEBSITE EBPARKS.ORG.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE MEETING.
OKAY, SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[Approval of Minutes]
HAS EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? YES, YES.OKAY. DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO OR DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE? SO MOVED.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 28TH.
I'LL SECOND THAT. AND DEB SECONDS.
ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE.
I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN ANY, ANY ANY NAYS.
ANY ABSTENTIONS. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN SINCE I WASN'T THERE.
ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? I RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTION ITEMS, SO WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION ITEMS.
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THE FIRST ONE IS THE NAGDCA CONFERENCE RECAP.OKAY. SO THERE WAS, I THINK TWO OF US, BEN AND MYSELF.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE REGISTERED TO DO THE ONLINE.
I DID REGISTER TO DO THE ONLINE.
UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS PLANNING TO GO BUT, WITHOUT THE FUNDING CLEAR UNFORTUNATELY HAD OTHER COMMITMENTS THAT I HAD TO SCHEDULE, AND SO I WASN'T ABLE TO GO TO THE CONFERENCE.
BUT I DID REGISTER FOR THE VIRTUAL CONFERENCE JUST TO SEE WHAT IT WAS LIKE.
I WHAT THIS IS, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS.
SO WHEN I DID THE VIRTUAL IT'S ALL LIVE AND I HAD MEETINGS AT CERTAIN TIMES THAT I WASN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE, AND MY ASSUMPTION WAS THAT IT WOULD BE RECORDED AND I COULD REPLAY IT, OR I COULD WATCH IT AT A LATER TIME.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
SO IF YOU MISS IT, THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY TO THEN WATCH IT.
SO SO IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CIRCLE BACK TO HAVE TIME TO, TO DO IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE COMING OUT, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JANUARY OR IF IT WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE EARLIER.
AND THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S ONLY IT DOESN'T REALLY COVER ALL OF THE SESSIONS.
IT WAS ONLY A SELECT FEW WHICH WERE NOT VERY SOME LIKE IT WAS LIKE THE OPENING SESSION, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS NOT AS RELEVANT AS, SAY, SOMETHING ELSE. THE BIGGEST BONUS, I THINK, THAT I FOUND WAS GOING IN WITH THE AGENCIES THAT ARE YOUR SIZE AND DISCUSSION, DISCUSSING ITEMS THERE. AND SO THAT ONE, OBVIOUSLY YOU I THINK YOU JUST GET TO WATCH IT AND SEE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO INTERACT IN ANY WAY.
SO YOU'RE REALLY NOT ABLE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR GET, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK.
SO, SO IT WAS JUST A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING IN THAT RESPECT, AS FAR AS THE VIRTUAL CONFERENCE.
AND THEN I THINK, BEN, YOU WERE? I WAS SLATED TO GO I DIDN'T GET ALL THE APPROVALS COMPLETED IN TIME DUE TO THE DEADLINES AND STUFF, SO I DIDN'T END UP GOING ANYWAY AND DIDN'T DO THE VIRTUAL BECAUSE I WAS
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BUSY WITH OTHER THINGS. I SLATED THAT TIME OFF TO GO, AND THEN I DIDN'T GO, I HAD OTHER THINGS THAT FILL IN FOR THAT TIME ANYWAY, SO I WAS GOING TO WAIT FOR JANUARY TO WATCH THE VIDEOS RIGHT ONLINE.SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S A REALLY BIG MISSED OPPORTUNITY.
I DO WANT TO AGAIN I THINK WE NEED TO DO BETTER ABOUT HAVING FUNDING AVAILABLE.
WE CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION IN.
AND THEN NOT HAVE ANY, ANY OF THE SUPPORT GOING THROUGH.
SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO, HOW TO HANDLE THAT IN THE FUTURE, BUT I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.
I THINK NEXT YEAR WE JUST NEED TO START EARLIER.
YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION, I THINK NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT DEFERRED COMP PROVIDER AND HAVE A DIFFERENT INVESTMENT STRUCTURE WHERE WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE CONTROL OVER THE INVESTMENT. SO IT'LL MAKE MORE SENSE FOR US TO GO NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE'LL BE LEARNING THINGS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT, I THINK.
SO ANYHOW, DON'T DON'T DON'T DESPAIR.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR, SO WE CAN TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
AND LET'S JUST START THE PLANNING EARLIER.
AND SO, YOU KNOW SOMETIMES LIKE IF YOU JUST JOIN THE COMMITTEE NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME, OR IF YOU JUST JOIN LAST YEAR, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TWO YEARS OF NOT BEING TRAINED AND HAVING TO SORT OF MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROVIDE OVERSIGHT ON SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.
SO I JUST THINK TRAINING IS A REALLY IMPORTANT CORE TO THIS COMMITTEE.
DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH BEFORE THAT NAGDCA PUT IT OUT? I MEAN, IT'S A WHILE, BUT I THOUGHT I MEAN, USUALLY ONCE THE ONCE THE ONCE THE CONFERENCE IS DONE, THEY PUBLISH WHERE THE NEXT ONE'S GOING TO BE AND THE DATE.
SO WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT A YEAR IN ADVANCE.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT ACCOUNT AVAILABLE SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO RE JUSTIFY THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CONFERENCE AND GOING AROUND GETTING APPROVALS AND EXPLAINING IT, YOU KNOW, TO THE DIFFERENT LEVELS.
IT JUST IT TO ME, IT'S JUST SUCH AN OBSTACLE.
AND IT REALLY IS FRUSTRATING FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE JUST TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
SO WE'VE REALLY GOT TO GET THAT ADDRESSED, I THINK.
SO WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
WELL, IS THERE ANY REASON TO THINK THAT THAT FUNDING SITUATION IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THIS COMING YEAR? I DON'T KNOW. THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS THAT I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ALLOWANCE ACCOUNT.
SO THIS YEAR WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE ALLOWANCE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PRIOR YEARS, WE AT LEAST WERE ABLE I MEAN, IN THE PRIOR YEARS THAT THE PROBLEM WAS WE HAD THE MONEY, BUT THEN GETTING THE APPROVALS TO GO WAS HELD UP.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT ENDED UP BEING KIND OF LATE.
AND SO THEN IT BECAME, WELL, WHO'S GOING TO PAY AND HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO BE AND WHERE DOES IT COME FROM? AND, YOU KNOW, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO AND WHO'S GOING AND HOW MANY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO SO I THINK THE FUNDING TO ME IS REALLY KEY BECAUSE WE CAN ALWAYS PLAN EARLY.
WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT, BUT THE FUNDING IS REALLY WHAT PREVENTS EVERYBODY FROM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO PUT IN A REQUEST TO GO TO A TRAINING WHEN THERE'S NO FUNDING IDENTIFIED OF WHO'S PAYING FOR IT.
IT'S IN SAN DIEGO SEPTEMBER 28TH THROUGH OCTOBER 2ND.
WHAT WERE THE DATES IN PHOENIX AGAIN? SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH THE 18TH.
OKAY. AND I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GOES.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE I FEEL, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MONICA'S ALWAYS GOT, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULTY WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT, BUT I REALLY THINK WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IT FOR PEOPLE TO GO.
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ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND THEIR PROCEDURES AND THINGS.I THINK THAT WOULD JUST REALLY HELP US BECAUSE I FEEL AS LIKE I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN I GO TO THE CONFERENCE, I COME BACK WITH IDEAS AND IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO GET THEM GOING WHEN THERE'S NOT A SHARED, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WHOLE COMMITTEE OF LIKE, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO.
AND THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY GET FROM THE CONFERENCE.
SO SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S, I THINK REALLY IT COMES DOWN TO THE FUNDING AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S IN PLACE BECAUSE THEN HOW DOES THE RETIREE GO? YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THAT'S OFTEN LIKE WE'LL JUST PUT IN FOR YOUR HR FUNDS.
IT'S LIKE PUT THE RETIREE DOESN'T HAVE AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT BARRIER FOR THE COMMITTEE.
AND AND THIS JUST ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE AN OBSTACLE.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN ELIMINATE THOSE OBSTACLES OTHER THAN CREATING A BUDGET FOR IT.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? COMMENTS? OKAY.
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE? YEAH I'D BE GLAD TO.
SO TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR FIRST INTRODUCTION TO EMPOWER FOR THE COMMITTEE.
SO WE HAVE SOME FOLKS FROM EMPOWER HERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING FOR US ON OUR DRAFT INVESTMENT POLICY STATEMENT AND PROPOSED FUND LINEUP AND THE ROUGH PLAN, I'LL JUST OUTLINE HERE AND THEN AND THEN HAND IT OVER TO THEM IS THAT WE REVIEW THIS.
I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE WHERE ARE WE IN THIS PROCESS.
AND SO NOW THE CONTRACT IS BEING REVIEWED BY LEGAL AND EDITS GOING BACK AND FORTH.
SO SO WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THIS, I GUESS, IS ALL I'M SAYING, REVIEWING THE INVESTMENT POLICY AND THE PROPOSED FUND LINEUP AS THOUGH THIS IS MOVING FORWARD.
DO WE HAVE, LIKE, A SIDE BY SIDE, YOU KNOW, COMPARISON OF SERVICES PROVIDED BY EMPOWER VERSUS MISSION SQUARE? I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT IS LIKE WHAT'S GOING TO BE PROVIDED? YEAH. THAT'S A GREAT THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
LET'S I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD GET TOGETHER FOR PARTICIPANTS.
SO LET'S DRAFT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMITTEE.
AND THEN WE CAN GET THAT OUT TO PARTICIPANTS.
BUT I THINK EVEN FOR THE COMMITTEE I THINK I'M NOT CLEAR TO, LIKE, EVEN IN THE CONTRACT REVIEW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT SERVICES ARE WE NOT LIKE I'VE NOTICED THAT WITH SOME OF THE PROVIDERS THAT WE'VE CHANGED OVER TO LIKE OUR EAP PROVIDER, OUR WORKERS COMP, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE, WELL, WAIT, OH, WE USED TO GET THIS AND OH, WE LOST THAT OR, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON LIKE YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE LIKE FINANCIAL PLANNERS, PEOPLE CAN MEET WITH FINANCIAL PLANNERS AND YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE APPOINTMENTS ARE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE APPOINTMENTS.
I'M JUST NOT QUITE SURE. LIKE, IS THAT AVAILABLE? IS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE QUESTION IS THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE WHAT ARE WHAT IS IT THAT MISSION SQUARE IS PROVIDING, LIKE WHAT'S EMPOWER'S WEBSITE LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, DOES IT HAVE THE TOOL WHERE YOU CAN PLAN OUT YOU KNOW, ESTIMATE YOUR RETIREMENT IN COORDINATION WITH CALPERS RETIREMENT, YOU KNOW, SO, LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF FEATURES THAT WE HAD FOR MISSION SQUARE THAT I'M NOT CLEAR.
THAT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE IF WE COULD SAY LIKE, YES, IT'S STILL GOING TO EXIST.
RIGHT. SO WHY DON'T WE PUT THAT TOGETHER? I'LL WORK WITH MONICA ON THAT.
THAT'LL BE AN ACTION ITEM FOR US TO WORK ON.
SO I WANT TO. QUESTION REAL QUICK, ON THE INVESTMENT POLICY, IS THIS A EMPOWER PUSH? LIKE WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? WHO IS IT NEXUS OR GENERATOR OF THIS DOCUMENT.
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LIKE WHY AND WHERE DID IT COME FROM, JUST SO I KNOW THE BACK.YEAH. SO THIS WAS EMPOWERS FIRST DRAFT FOR US AND THIS IS A BEST PRACTICE TO HAVE AN INVESTMENT POLICY STATEMENT NOW THAT WE HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER WHAT OUR INVESTMENTS ARE.
SO YEAH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE IN THE PAST, BUT WE WERE JUST USING MISSION SQUARE'S DEFAULT LINEUP.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS NOW OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK DO WE WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO EMPOWER.
AND I THINK THERE ARE QUITE A FEW RESOURCES THAT WE CAN UTILIZE FROM THEM AS WELL.
SO THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD WITH MISSION SQUARE INITIALLY WAS LIKE, WE'RE HERE AND MISSION SQUARE IS TELLING US HOW TO DO THIS COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW? AND I'M LIKE, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE LIKE A CONFLICT, YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S WHERE THAT CONFERENCE REALLY CAN BALANCE THAT OUT.
AND SO WHEN WE GET, FOR EXAMPLE, AN INVESTMENT POLICY STATEMENT FROM EMPOWER, SURE E VERYTHING'S GREAT, YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE, SHOULD WE BE TAKING THAT FROM THE PROVIDER THAT WE HAVE OR SHOULD WE BE ALSO HAVING THAT? I AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY HARD IS TO SIT HERE AND BE LIKE, SURE SOUNDS GOOD, YOU KNOW, AND NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF SUPPORT OR KNOWLEDGE BASE TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE IT CAREFULLY.
YOU KNOW, LIKE CONTRACT IT OUT.
IT'S SO IMPORTANT. IT'S CRITICAL.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I THINK WE ALL SHOULD BE ON THE SAME PAGE AS, SO THAT WHEN WE ENDEAVOR ON THESE TYPES OF THINGS, WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES AND FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, INTERACTING WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND SEEING HOW THEY DO IT.
JUST SO THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS SORT OF CAME FORWARD AS A SURPRISE FOR A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS WHO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT HAVING THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. IT'S NOT CLEAR.
AND IT'S HAPPENING. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T ANY INTERACTION SO.
YEAH, I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
OKAY, WELL, I THINK THIS WILL HELP.
WE'LL NOW HAVE EMPOWER THEY'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF OF THEIR SERVICES RIGHT.
MAYBE NOT THEIR FULL SERVICES, BUT TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE IS.
SO I THINK THAT'S IN OUR HANDOUTS OR AT LEAST CONNIE SENT IT TO US.
OH, HERE IT IS. YEAH. SO SO MAYBE WE TURN IT OVER TO THEM, AND THEN AFTER THEY PROVIDE US WITH THEIR OVERVIEW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS SOME MORE AND.
AND [INAUDIBLE] I WILL START WITH INTRODUCTIONS, I GUESS.
I AM INVESTMENT DIRECTOR WITH EMPOWER INVESTMENTS.
SO I THINK I'LL PROBABLY BE HAVING THE BULK OF THE SPEAKING TODAY IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE INVESTMENT POLICY AND THE SUGGESTED LINEUP. JOHN MCANDREW ONE OF OUR SALES DIRECTORS, INTERNAL SALES DIRECTORS IS WITH US, ERIC LEAVITT, WHO I THINK PROBABLY YOU'VE MET BEFORE.
I THINK YOU'VE MET PROBABLY ERIC AND JOHN, WHO OUR SALES DIRECTOR FOR THE WEST REGION.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE CAN DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU GUYS WANT TO START, DO YOU WANT TO START WITH A LITTLE BIT OVERVIEW OF EMPOWER SPEAKERS]. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU. JOHN, ERIC, DO YOU WANT TO HIT THAT? YEAH. I'LL JUMP IN HERE.
SO I WORKED WITH THEM THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS.
THEN WE DID OUR FINALS PRESENTATION FOR DEV AND THE TEAM.
AND THEN WE'LL BE INVOLVED IN THE ONGOING TRANSITION OVER, OVER TO EMPOWER AS WELL.
SO JUST AN OVERVIEW OF EMPOWER.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE SECOND LARGEST RETIREMENT PLAN PROVIDER IN THE COUNTRY JUST BEHIND FIDELITY.
WE WERE FORMERLY KNOWN AS GREAT-WEST INVESTMENTS BACK IN THE DAY.
WE HAD THE NAME CHANGE TO NAME OUR RETIREMENT BUSINESS TO EMPOWER A FEW YEARS BACK.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE EMPOWER NAME CAME FROM.
BUT WE ARE ALSO THE LARGEST GOVERNMENT PROVIDER IN THE COUNTRY AS WELL.
SO VERY FAMILIAR WORKING WITH PARK DISTRICTS LIKE YOURSELF.
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SORRY ABOUT THE COUGH THERE A LITTLE BIT.ERIC IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD? YOU'RE ON MUTE ERIC. THERE YOU GO.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK TODAY WE'RE REALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE INVESTMENT POLICY STATEMENT THE DRAFTING OF THAT YOU KNOW, HOW WE WORK WITH OTHER ENTITIES LIKE YOURSELF IN CREATING THESE, I DO BELIEVE WHAT YOU YOU MENTIONED EARLIER IS, IS, YOU KNOW, THE DOCUMENT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PROVIDED, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU, YOU REALLY WILL WANT TO OWN AND WORK THROUGH AND UNDERSTAND AS, AS THAT POINT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT BILL IS HERE TO, YOU KNOW, WALK YOU THROUGH SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF AN INVESTMENT POLICY STATEMENT, WHICH AS, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS A BEST PRACTICE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE PROVIDED A PROPOSED LINEUP.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS WE WORK WITH YOU AND DEVELOPING WHAT MAKES YOU FEEL THE MOST COMFORTABLE FROM AN INVESTMENT STANDPOINT.
AND I KNOW THERE IS A PAGE IN THE MINI PACKET FOR THE BOARD ON I THINK IT'S PAGE 70 OF THE MINI PACKET THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF STATISTICS ON, ON EMPOWER AS FAR AS THE RECORDKEEPING SIDE OF THINGS, BUT YEAH.
SO, I THINK THE BIG THING WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS MORE ON THE INVESTMENT SIDE.
SO I'LL START WITH THE INVESTMENT POLICY.
I'M TRYING TO. I'VE GOT THE MINI PACKET OPEN I'M TRYING TO GET.
YEAH. SO AS YOU GUYS MENTIONED, RIGHT, THE INVESTMENT POLICY IS, IS REALLY YOUR DOCUMENT TO US.
SO THIS IS A, AN IPS TEMPLATE THAT WE USE.
AS YOU SAID, THERE'S LOTS OF RESOURCES FROM NAGDCA FROM OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE OTHER IPSS.
EVERYTHING HERE IS, IS CUSTOMIZABLE.
SO WE WENT THROUGH IT WITH DEB AND DAVID.
I THINK IF I REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS DAVID..
TO FINE TUNE SOME POINTS, ADD, ADD SOME THINGS, TAKE A FEW THINGS AWAY.
WE CAN DELETE ANY OF THESE PARTS HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
PART FOUR ON PAGE THREE THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF IPS OVER, OVER MY, YOU KNOW, NEARLY THREE DECADES IN THIS BUSINESS.
I SEE SOME THAT HAVE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OUTLINED.
I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S NICE, RIGHT, TO JUST KIND OF LEVEL SET WHATEVER WHAT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, THE DIFFERENT PARTIES THAT ARE TOUCHING THE PLAN ARE EXPECTED EXPECTED TO DO.
RIGHT. WE'RE OUTLINING THE APPROACH THAT THAT THE COMMITTEE AND THE PARK DISTRICT IS GOING TO TAKE TOWARDS THE INVESTMENTS FOR THE, FOR THE DC PLAN. SO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE FOUR, WE START TO OUTLINE, OKAY, WHAT KIND OF ASSET CLASSES ARE WE GOING TO HAVE.
WE WANT TO SEE GOOD PERFORMANCE RELATIVE TO THEIR BENCHMARK AND THEIR PEER GROUP.
I THINK FEES IN LINE WITH, WITH THE REST OF THE REST OF THAT CATEGORY THINGS ALONG THAT LINE.
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AGAIN, ANY OF THIS CAN BE CHANGED, DELETED.WE CAN ADD THINGS HOWEVER YOU, YOU SEE FIT.
BOTTOM OF PAGE FIVE, PART SIX, WE GET INTO THE INTO THE MONITORING.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE SEE PROBABLY THE MOST APPLICATION OF THE IPS, RIGHT.
THE REGULAR MONITORING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO OF THE OF THE FUNDS IN THE, IN THE LINEUP THE TOP OF PAGE SIX IS, IS WHERE WE SEE THE MOST VARIETY, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT CRITERIA DOES THE COMMITTEE WANT TO USE TO MONITOR THE INVESTMENTS ON A, ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THE TIME FRAME THAT WE HAD PUT IN IS SEMIANNUALLY.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO DO ON A, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
WE KIND OF STARTED WITH SEMIANNUAL I WOULD SAY OF ALL THE PLANS THAT I WORK WITH THEY'RE ALL EITHER SEMIANNUAL OR QUARTERLY. IT USED TO BE SOME OF YOU YOU WOULD SEE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, BUT TO ME, THAT'S THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN HAPPEN FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST EITHER QUARTERLY OR SEMIANNUALLY.
SO WE STARTED WITH SEMIANNUALLY AND THE CRITERIA THAT I HAD INCLUDED YOU KNOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR PERFORMANCE ABOVE MEDIAN FOR THE, FOR THE CATEGORY FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR MORNINGSTAR PEER GROUP.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT EXPENSES THAT ARE LESS THAN AVERAGE FOR THE FOR THE PEER GROUP.
WE WANT RISK MEASURES THAT ARE KIND OF IN LINE WITH, WITH THE REST OF THE CATEGORY.
YOU KNOW, WE INCLUDE THE MORNINGSTAR RATING OF THREE STARS OR BETTER.
IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH MORNINGSTAR, THEY RATE FUNDS ON A 1 TO 5 STAR SCALE FIVE BEING THE BEST.
SO WE WANT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST AT LEAST THREE STARS ARE BETTER.
AND THEN IT'S JUST A CONSISTENT INVESTMENT STYLE AND STRATEGY.
THESE ARE FAIRLY BROAD CRITERIA, I THINK, WHICH IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE SUGGEST.
JUST SO YOU'RE NOT HANDCUFFING YOURSELF INTO HAVING TO MAKE FUN CHANGES.
THAT DOESN'T NORMALLY WORK OUT RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'VE GOT A LIST OF OF 20 OR 25 FUNDS, AT SOME POINT SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE THE COMMITTEE INTO HAVING TO MAKE CHANGES ON A REAL REGULAR BASIS JUST BECAUSE THE INVESTMENT POLICY SAYS, OH, WELL, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE I WANT PERFORMANCE IN THE TOP QUARTILE OF ALL PEERS FOR, YOU KNOW, THREE AND FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE WANT THE CRITERIA IN THERE, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE FAIRLY LOOSE.
EMPOWER INVESTMENTS IS GOING TO LOOK AT IT ON A AT LEAST QUARTERLY BASIS.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A AN AREA OF EMPOWER INVESTMENTS, OUR INVESTMENT RESEARCH AREA THAT DOES NOTHING BUT THIRD PARTY INVESTMENT MANAGER RESEARCH. SO WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY TALKING TO, YOU KNOW, JANICE AND AMERICAN FUNDS AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FUND FAMILIES. WE DO A LITTLE OVER 400 MEETINGS A YEAR WITH THE WITH THE DIFFERENT ASSET MANAGERS.
SO THE NICE THING ABOUT THE SIZE AND SCALE OF EMPOWER IS WE HAVE ACCESS TO, TO THE ASSET MANAGERS PRETTY MUCH WHENEVER WE WANT, WHENEVER WE WANT TO GO VISIT OR, OR GET ON A CALL.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT ON, ON OUR END AGAIN.
WE JUST DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE CRITERIA TOO CONSTRICTING IN THE, IN THE IPS.
BUT AGAIN, WE CAN CHANGE IT TO WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE.
IF YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND OF A STRONG FEELING FOR THAT.
SO SAY IT'S A, IT'S A LARGE CAP VALUE FUND.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON PERFORMANCE HAS REALLY LAGGED.
THE FUND COMPANY ITSELF IS, IS, IS, YOU KNOW TAKEN OVER BY DIFFERENT ASSET MANAGERS.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.
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AND THIS JUST PART SEVEN JUST OUTLINES HOW THAT'S DONE THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT KIND OF CHANGE REALLY FOR, FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU SEE FIT. AGAIN, WE TRY TO MAKE THAT LANGUAGE SO, SO YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES WHEN, WHEN YOU THINK YOU NEED TO AND WHAT HAPPENS THAT HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS. RIGHT.THAT THOSE ASSETS ARE AUTOMATICALLY MOVED FROM THE, YOU KNOW, I'LL CALL THE OLD FUND TO THE REPLACEMENT FUND AUTOMATICALLY BY EMPOWER.
IT'S NOT UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE.
THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE HOLDINGS.
THAT'S KIND OF THE MAJOR PARTS OF THE IPS.
JUST KIND OF FIRST BLUSH, ANY ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? ANYTHING COME TOP OF MIND.
YEAH. THANKS, BILL. THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO THAT, CONNIE, BUT IF WE CAN PULL UP THE INVESTMENT POLICY SO THAT WE CAN WALK THROUGH IT ON SCREEN, IS THAT POSSIBLE? I THINK, AND AND I'M NOT SURE.
IT SEEMS LIKE DOCUMENTS THAT WE REVIEW SHOULD BE PART OF THE BOARD PACKET.
YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. I AM PRETTY SURE.
OKAY. SO IF THEY ARE WATCHING, THEY CAN PULL IT UP ON THE.
YEAH, BUT I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL AS WE'RE TALKING THROUGH.
SO THEY LIKE I'M LOOKING AT THIS SENTENCE.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT SENTENCE. YES.
RIGHT. BILL IS THAT CAN YOU SEE THE IPS RIGHT NOW? I CAN OKAY.
THANK YOU. THAT WAS A VERY HELPFUL OVERVIEW.
SO THE DAVID WAS DAVID SUMNER, WHO'S OUR INTERNAL AUDITOR.
I ASKED HIM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
AND SO HE AND MONICA ALSO WAS AT THAT MEETING, AND WE JUST DID A REVIEW OF THE IPS TO TALK THROUGH LIKE, WHAT DO WE THINK IS THE BEST PRACTICE THAT WE WANT TO PUT IN HERE? AND WE DID MAKE A FEW TWEAKS.
AND I CAN SORT OF TALK YOU THROUGH WHAT, WHAT I THOUGHT WERE THE IMPORTANT POINTS.
MAYBE WE JUST TAKE IT FROM THE TOP AND JUST SCROLL THROUGH.
DOES THAT SEEM LIKE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT? OKAY. CAN I CLARIFY WHAT IS RHS PLAN? A RETIREE HEALTH PLAN, SO RETIREE HEALTH SAVINGS PLAN.
THANK YOU. AND SO THAT'S A VERY SMALL PLAN.
IT'S AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
IF YOU HAVE 20 OR MORE YEARS OF SERVICE AT RETIREMENT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PUT MONEY INTO YOUR RHS.
IS THAT RIGHT, MONICA? IT'S AVAILABLE TO POLICE ASSOCIATION MEMBERS.
WHO YES, WHO HAVE 20 PLUS YEARS OF SERVICE.
IS THAT THE NEW THE NEWER ONE.
IS THAT SOMETHING NEW WE DID? NO.
YOU'RE CONFUSING THAT WITH THE PORAC ONE.
YEAH. THIS WAS A PLAN THAT'S BEEN PUT IN PLACE FOR MANY YEARS.
AND SO 1% OF SICK LEAVE IS DIVERTED TO THIS RHS PLAN.
SO NOT NOT MANY PARTICIPANTS IN THE PLAN.
ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT WE'RE MISSING? NOW? I THINK LET'S FOCUS ON THE INVESTMENT POLICY.
AND YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE.
YEAH, KEEP US FOCUSED ON THAT.
SO THE FIRST PART ONE IS JUST OVERVIEW WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THAT THIS IS A WAY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO, TO EASILY CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR SAVINGS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SECTION OR THOUGHTS ON IT?
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ALL RIGHT. NO. SO PART TWO IS THE PURPOSE OF THE IPS.AND AGAIN, JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU THE LAY OF THE LAND.
SO THE IPS IS GOING TO I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH THE BULLETS, DHE ROLES OF OUR INVESTMENTS, CRITERIA AND PROCEDURES FOR SELECTING OUR INVESTMENTS? HOW DO WE MEASURE WHETHER THESE ARE THE RIGHT INVESTMENTS? AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO IF WE REALIZE THESE AREN'T THE RIGHT INVESTMENTS? SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IPS IS DOING.
ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO AGAIN, YEAH, THIS IS JUST LIKE A BROAD OVERVIEW.
AND THEN WE'RE NOW IT'S GOING TO START GETTING MORE INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF WHAT IS OUR IPS DO. OKAY. SO THE OBJECTIVES SO WE WANT OUR INVESTMENT OPTIONS TO MAXIMIZE RETURNS WITHIN REASONABLE AND PRUDENT LEVELS OF RISK AND PROVIDE RETURNS COMPARABLE TO RETURNS FOR SIMILAR INVESTMENT OPTIONS.
WE WANT OUR INVESTMENT OPTIONS.
SO WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE CONSERVATIVE.
MAYBE THEY'RE CLOSER TO RETIREMENT.
AND THEN LASTLY, WE WANT FEES AND EXPENSES TO BE REASONABLE IN THAT LATER ON IT GETS MORE SPECIFIC.
SO THIS IS THIS IS AGAIN PRETTY GENERAL WHAT OUR INVESTMENT OBJECTIVES ARE.
TO SAY COMPETITIVE AND COMPETITIVE AS WELL.
YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK REASONABLE IS NOT DEFINED.
SORRY. REASONABLE IS NOT DEFINED I THINK SO.
AND I THINK COMPETITIVE IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S USED LATER.
YEAH. LATER ON WE USE THAT WORD COMPETITIVE.
SO LET'S OKAY. BILL, DID YOU HEAR THAT? IF WE COULD CHANGE THAT WORD ON THAT THIRD LINE ITEM INSTEAD OF FEES AND EXPENSES SHOULD BE COMPETITIVE.
GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT COMPETITIVE, REASONABLE AND COMPETITIVE AND COMPETITIVE I LIKE IT.
SO CAN WE ADD THAT FEES AND EXPENSES FOR BOTH THE AGENCY AND PARTICIPANTS.
YEAH. DID YOU GUYS HEAR THAT? BILL, SO THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE CAPTURE IN THIS INVESTMENT OBJECTIVES? BECAUSE THERE ARE SORT OF TWO PARTS TO FEES, RIGHT? THERE'S THE OVERALL PLAN FEES.
WHAT EMPOWERS GETTING BASIS POINTS THAT THEY'RE GETTING FOR BEING THE PLAN ADMINISTRATOR.
AND THEN EACH INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL INVESTMENT HAS ITS OWN COSTS AS WELL.
IS THERE A WAY OF FRAMING THAT IN THIS INVESTMENT OBJECTIVE SECTION? SURE, I'M SURE WE CAN.
COMPETITIVE AND REASONABLE FEES APPLY TO BOTH THE PARK DISTRICT AND THE PLANS PARTICIPANTS.
I'LL WORK IT IN THERE SOMEHOW.
SECTION FOUR IS WHERE IT GETS INTO WHO DOES WHAT.
AND YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT IT'S IN A FEW PLACES REFERS TO LIKE THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.
I BELIEVE THIS IS THE DEFERRED COMP ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS WHO WE WANT TO BE.
THE RESPONSIBLE TO HAVE THIS RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT WHAT ARE PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS? AND IS IT CLEAR WHAT I'M WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU SEE THAT VERY CLEARLY.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE MOVING FORWARD TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE ONUS ON HELPING ASSIST WITH EDUCATION, WITH THE BOARD, WHO WILL MAKE THE DECISION OF WHETHER TO MOVE FUNDS OR NOT UNLESS WE DO. BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DECLARED, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR FUNDS UNDERPERFORMING, WHO MAKES THAT DECLARATION? HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
AND THE BOARD COULD THEN SAY, YES, WE AGREE, AND THEN IT GETS MOVED OR CHANGED.
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SO I'M WITH YOU.OKAY. SO MAYBE WE GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE SLOWLY.
OKAY. SO SO THE PARTIES RESPONSIBLE ARE THE PLAN SPONSOR AND THE RETIREMENT PLAN COMMITTEE.
SO DO WE WANT TO CHANGE RETIREMENT PLAN COMMITTEE TO BE THE DEFERRED COMP ADVISORY COMMITTEE? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ARE ADVISORY.
DID YOU CATCH THAT? SO THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE LISTED AS DEFERRED COMP ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
DEFERRED COMP ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS THE OFFICIAL TITLE FOR.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER TOO BEN, DO YOU HAPPEN TO REMEMBER THE CONFERENCES? LIKE I FEEL LIKE SOME PEOPLE HAD TWO COMMITTEES.
AND THERE WAS, I THINK, A SECOND INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.
I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS KIND OF PRETTY COMMON.
YEAH, KIND OF DEPENDING ON, I GUESS, ON THE, ON HOW THE AGENCY IS STRUCTURED.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THIS IS SIMILAR TO HOW YOU GUYS HAVE.
RIGHT. IT'S IT'S, IT'S A BOARD AND THEN A SUBCOMMITTEE.
THERE ARE OTHER ENTITIES THAT WILL HAVE A, A COMMITTEE.
SO YEAH, I THINK WE KEEP IT WITH JUST THE WELL AND AND MY CONCERN TOO, THOUGH IS, IS THE WORKLOAD, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN GETTING DONE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO GET DONE. AND SO THAT'S MY CONCERN TOO, IS THAT HOW DO WE GET THIS WORK DONE ON TOP OF WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING SO.
WELL, THIS IS I THINK, WHAT SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS INVESTMENT POLICY IN PLACE, AND THIS WILL SORT OF LAY OUT FOR US HOW WE DO REVIEW OUR INVESTMENTS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IN HERE IS BIANNUALLY.
SO YEAH. SO WE COULD DO QUARTERLY.
BUT SO IT'S ALREADY PART OF OUR WORK PLAN.
BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE IT. THIS. YES.
OH YEAH. FOR VERY I THINK FOR VARIOUS REASONS WE HAVEN'T DONE IT.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE AN ISSUE GOING FORWARD.
RIGHT. LIKE WE SHOULD BE STARTING TO LIKE GET IN MORE IN ALIGNMENT AND ON SCHEDULE WITH THINGS.
SO I AGREE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR MEETINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE A LOT OF OUR FOCUS WAS ON THE BYLAWS, WHICH I THINK NOW WITH THIS PLAN DOCUMENT, IT'S GOING TO HELP OUTLINE OUR BYLAWS.
SO IF WE GET THIS IN PLACE AND NOW THAT WE'RE ALL AGREE THAT WE'RE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE'VE OUR GOAL WAS ALWAYS TO DO THESE CHECK INS.
SO WE JUST NEED TO STICK TO IT.
SURE. SO BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY TOO, BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE PARK DISTRICT IS A NAMED FIDUCIARY. BUT THERE IS STILL A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COMMITTEE.
CORRECT? EVEN THOUGH IT'S ADVISORY, THERE IS STILL A REASONABLE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY.
IS THAT CORRECT? NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND THAT WAS SO THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF OUR DISCUSSION IS LIKE, ARE WE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR ARE WE THE DEFERRED COMP COMMITTEE? SO WE'RE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SURE. SO SHOULD IT SAY THE PARK DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS THE NAME FIDUCIARY.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S NOT CLEAR IS THE PARK DISTRICT.
WELL, SO I THINK ANYWHERE IT SAYS PARK DISTRICT, LIKE THE PARK DISTRICT'S BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PARK DISTRICT SO THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE THAT SPECIFIC HERE.
LIKE WELL, WE JUST FINISHED STATING, AND AND IT WASN'T TERRIBLY CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT THE FIDUCIARY IS THE BOARD, AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS NOT.
I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTH PUTTING IN THERE.
WHERE SO WALK ME THROUGH WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO PUT IT.
WHERE IT SAYS PLAN SPONSOR AND RETIREMENT PLAN COMMITTEE.
THE SECOND SENTENCE, THE PARK DISTRICT IS THE NAME FIDUCIARY.
I WOULD JUST PUT BOARD OF DIRECTORS AFTER DISTRICT.
THE PARK DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
YEAH, THEY ARE THE NAMED FIDUCIARY.
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AND THE COMMITTEE ISN'T OKAY.YEAH. SO I THINK THAT WOULD JUST PUT IT THERE OKAY.
YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT THERE HAS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE AMBIGUITY THAT WE HAD BEFORE WAS LIKE, WELL WHO'S THE PARK DISTRICT? IS IT. YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL MANAGER.
BUT THEN IT SAYS THE PARK DISTRICT IS NAMED A FIDUCIARY.
SO THEN IF THE PARK DISTRICT IS APPOINTING A COMMITTEE.
THE PARK DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS A NAMED FIDUCIARY.
OKAY, COOL. GOT IT? YEP. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT CHANGES? BECAUSE AGAIN, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT LAST YEAR WE OR EARLIER THIS YEAR WE FOCUSED A LOT ON WHO THE FIDUCIARY IS AND THE POTENTIAL OF IT CHANGING.
SO IF THAT CHANGES BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS REMAIN THE FIDUCIARY AND MAYBE IT BE SOMEONE INTERNAL, LIKE OUR CFO OR I DON'T REMEMBER.
YEAH. WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO UPDATE OUR INVESTMENT POLICY.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE INVESTMENT POLICIES FOR OUR OWN FUNDS.
SO THE PARK DISTRICT HAS TWO INVESTMENT POLICIES ALREADY THAT WE REVIEW EVERY FIVE YEARS.
SO THIS I'M THINKING WOULD BE LIKE, LET'S FOLLOW THAT SAME PROTOCOL EVERY FIVE YEARS.
WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
WE'LL WRITE IT INTO THE POLICY OKAY.
IT SHOULDN'T BE HARD TO CHANGE THIS.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO IS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SELECTING AND APPOINTING THE PLANS TRUSTEE THE RECORD KEEPER, INVESTMENT ADVISORY CONSULTANTS AND IF DESIRED, APPOINTING THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT SOUND LIKE THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WOULD BE DOING? THAT'S A BIT INACCURATE THERE.
MAYBE JUST LET'S CLARIFY THAT THAT THE COMMITTEE THEY APPOINT SO THEY WHEN THEY ESTABLISH THE DEFERRED COMP ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEY SAID IT'S GOING TO BE ONE MEMBER FROM EACH OF THESE GROUPS.
AND SO MAYBE WE NEED TO CLARIFY.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, PICKING THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS, BUT THAT THEY ARE IDENTIFYING HOW DO WE HOW DO WE WANT TO SAY THAT? I THINK IT'S JUST APPOINTING THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE, THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE, I LIKE THAT, YEAH.
IS THAT GOOD? YEAH, OR YOU COULD EVEN SAY WHO THE WHICH PARTIES ARE REPRESENTED ON THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE.
IT MIGHT MAKE IT A TRIFLE CLEARER AND APPOINTING.
OR DETERMINING WHICH, RATHER THAN APPOINTING, DETERMINING, DETERMINING THE MAKEUP OF WHICH PARTIES ARE WHICH PARTIES. TO ME SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE PICKING PEOPLE STILL OKAY, COOL.
THAT SOUNDS FINE. AND SO THEN WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING AND EVALUATING EACH OF THE SERVICE PROVIDER IT APPOINTS? IS THAT THE BOARD OR IS THAT THE COMMITTEE? GOOD QUESTION. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE COMMITTEE.
MY QUESTION WAS FOR THE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING AND EVALUATING EACH OF THE SERVICE PROVIDERS, IS THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OR IS THAT THE COMMITTEE? I THINK IT WOULD BE THE COMMITTEE.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? WHERE ARE WE AT? SO THE LAST SENTENCE IN THAT PARAGRAPH WHERE IT SAYS THE PARK DISTRICT OR COMMITTEE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING AND EVALUATING EACH OF THE SERVICE PROVIDERS AT A POINTS, BUT DO WE APPOINT THE SERVICE PROVIDERS? NO, NO, IT'S SAYING WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING.
RIGHT. APPOINTED BY THE PARK DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
YEAH. SO WHAT WAS SAID IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT LAST SENTENCE OF THAT PARAGRAPH, SAY THE COMMITTEE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING AND EVALUATING EACH OF THE SERVICE PROVIDERS APPOINTED BY THE PARK DISTRICT'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
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IS THAT GOOD? OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.AND THEN THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE AND THEN I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE COMMITTEE.
ALSO INCLUDE PREPARING MAINTAINING THE IPS, DETERMINING APPROPRIATE INVESTMENT TYPES, SELECTING INVESTMENT OPTIONS, MONITORING INVESTMENT PERFORMANCE AND PERIODICALLY MONITORING INVESTMENT RECORD KEEPING AND ADMIN EXPENSES.
AND THEN I HAD RFP BECAUSE THIS TALKS ABOUT THE ONE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
SO IF THIS IS AN INVESTMENT POLICY STATEMENT RIGHT, THEN IT SHOULDN'T JUST BE SPECIFIC TO THE PLAN THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT WE SHOULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE TO BE ENSURING COMPETITIVE RATES AND SERVICES RIGHT THROUGH THROUGH THE I DON'T KNOW, THROUGH THE YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, LIKE COMPETITIVE BIDDING.
I DEFINITELY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
LIKE I FEEL LIKE IT IS OUR JOB TO ALSO LIKE IF WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAN IS DOING ALL THESE GREAT THINGS, BUT WE'RE ALSO SUPPOSED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAN IS THE BEST FOR THE MEMBERS, RIGHT? YEAH. WHERE DO WE WANT TO PUT THAT? MAYBE THAT'S A SEPARATE.
COULD THAT BE PART OF OUR BYLAWS? YEAH. I FEEL LIKE THE INVESTMENT POLICY STATEMENT IS ABOUT THE INVESTMENTS, BUT IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, THIS IS THE COMPANY THAT'S PROVIDING THE INVESTMENTS.
SO WE SHOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT THE COMPANY PROVIDING THE INVESTMENT IS ALSO COMPETITIVE.
BUT IS THAT PART OF THE INVESTMENT POLICY? BECAUSE IT'S LIKE DOING AN RFP IS [INAUDIBLE].
HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU SEEN AN INVESTMENT POLICY THAT THAT TALKS ABOUT DOING THAT, LIKE WHAT THE WHAT THE RFP OR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE? NO, I DON'T NORMALLY SEE THAT IN THE NOT IN THE INVESTMENT POLICY.
YEAH. I'M THINKING I'M THINKING WE DO NEED TO COVER THAT, BUT IT'S IN OUR BYLAWS.
SO LET'S SAY WE MONITOR THAT AND WE'RE LIKE RECOMMENDING OR SOMETHING LIKE AND RECOMMENDING AN RFP.
SORRY. EMPOWER. BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE WHATEVER.
RECOMMEND APPROPRIATE CHANGES WITHOUT NECESSARILY MENTIONING THE RFP THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDING APPROPRIATE CHANGES AS NEEDED.
SURE. IS THAT IT SPEAKERS]. YEAH THAT'S FOR SPECIFIC INVESTMENT OPTIONS THOUGH NOT FOR LIKE THE WHOLE I'M JUST WONDERING OR MAYBE HERE YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW.
SO MAYBE WE'LL ADD SOMETHING THERE ALSO.
BUT I LIKE PETE SAYING SO NUMBER FIVE, IT'S GOING TO SAY PERIODICALLY MONITORING INVESTMENT RECORD KEEPING AND ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES AND RECOMMENDING APPROPRIATE CHANGES. OKAY.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, SO, SO NOW THAT THIS ORIGINAL PARAGRAPH TALKS ABOUT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE, IT SAYS WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR, BUT I'M NOT CLEAR WHAT THE BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RIGHT.
LIKE I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TOO.
LIKE IT SAYS THERE I THINK IT SAYS SO WE JUST HAVE A PARK DISTRICT.
THAT SENTENCE IS NOW TO SAY THE PARK DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS THE NAME IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SELECTING AND APPOINTING THE PLANS TRUSTEE THE RECORD KEEPER, INVESTMENT ADVISORY CONSULTANTS IF DESIRED.
AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF THAT WAS.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF THAT WAS LIKE ALSO IN NUMBERED FORM.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
OH YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO IT'S LIKE THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MAKE THIS INTO BULLET POINTS.
YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD THE SAME WAY THE ONES DOWN HERE IS.
RIGHT. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A LOT OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD IS LIKE, WELL, WHO DOES THIS? AND YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE COMMITTEE.
THAT WAY IT'S REALLY CLEAR WHO DOES WHAT.
AND WHO'S THE TRUSTEE OR EMPOWER.
WELL, LIKE SO, BUT LIKE, WHO IS IT, BILL? IS IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE.
IT'S EMPOWER TRUST COMPANY SHOULD BE THE TRUSTEE.
AND IS THAT SPECIFIED SOMEWHERE HERE? IT'S NOT. AND I THINK THE INTENT OF THIS IS THAT THIS IS OUR IPS THAT WE WOULD KEEP, REGARDLESS OF WHO OUR PROVIDER IS.
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OKAY. YEAH. AND THE TRUST AGREEMENT IS, IS THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH EMPOWER? YEAH. AS PART OF THAT MASTER CONTRACT THAT'S BEING REVIEWED RIGHT NOW.SO ARE WE CALLING IT TRUST AGREEMENT OR ARE WE CALLING IT.
I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED A TRUST AGREEMENT.
CAN YOU GUYS CAN YOU HEAR THAT QUESTION.
IS THAT THE RIGHT TERM TRUST AGREEMENT? YEAH. ERIC I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN OR NOT.
SO NORMALLY I THINK YOU HAVE THE RECORD KEEPING AGREEMENT AND THE TRUST AGREEMENT.
OFFICIALLY, THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES AND POWER TRUSTEE.
I'M SORRY. EMPOWER TRUST COMPANY SERVES AS THE TRUSTEE.
EMPOWER SERVES AS THE RECORD KEEPER.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SEPARATED HERE.
AND SO THAT IT'S SPECIFIED CORRECTLY HERE.
AND THEN THE TRUST AGREEMENT ARE TWO SEPARATE AGREEMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE CAPITALIZED AS A SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, SO THAT SO THAT WHOEVER'S READING THIS CAN THEN REFER TO THAT AGREEMENT? I MEAN, THAT'S A SPECIFIC DOCUMENT AGAIN, LIKE IT'S A SPECIFIC DOCUMENT.
AND WE'RE NOT SAYING LIKE EMPOWERS TRUST AGREEMENT, IN WHICH CASE YOU WOULD CAPITALIZE IT.
WE'RE JUST SAYING LIKE THE TRUST AGREEMENT LIKE WHOEVER IT IS.
AND THEN AND THEN WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS CONSULTANT? I'M THINKING LEAVE IT IN.
BUT WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY ENVISIONING USING A CONSULTANT.
WE DID RIGHT BEFORE WE HAD MESIROW.
WE DID BEFORE. SO IT COULD HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND WE JUST KEEP IT IN HERE JUST IN CASE.
SO WE'RE NOW AT PART FIVE SELECTION OF INVESTMENTS.
WOULD IT HELP TO IDENTIFY WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
OH, LIKE A DEFINITION SECTION.
TRUSTEE OR CUSTODIAN? DEFERRED COMP PROVIDER.
DEFERRED COMP PROVIDER, WHOEVER IT IS.
OR EVEN A GLOSSARY OR SOMETHING.
YEAH, YEAH. SO THAT LIKE A GLOSSARY AT THE END THAT WOULD BE REALLY KNOW WHO IT IS.
BECAUSE I THINK PART OF THE QUESTION IS WHO'S THE RECORD KEEPER.
YEAH. YEAH I THINK THAT'S OKAY.
SO MAYBE WE HAVE AN APPENDIX A.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE THINKING OR EVEN A FIRST PAGE.
YOU KNOW HOW THEY HAVE A DEFINITION.
YEAH. GLOSSARY. WELL THEN WE'D HAVE TO LIKE SO THEN WE'D HAVE TO.
AND AS SOON AS WE PUT EMPOWER AS OUR RECORD KEEPER.
WELL, NO, BUT I MEAN, LIKE, IT WOULDN'T BE EMPOWER.
IT WOULD JUST BE THE DEFERRED COMP PROVIDER, THE DEFERRED COMP, LIKE IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, TRUST AGREEMENT IS THE AGREEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY THIS IS THE SERVICE PROVIDER.
OKAY. BUT IT'S STILL CLEAR WHO THESE ROLES BELONG TO.
OKAY. SO I THINK WHAT WE WANT IS A DEFINITION SECTION OKAY.
OKAY. WE'LL PUT IT UP AT THE FRONT.
SO. SO THE RECORD KEEPER WHERE.
AND MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE REFERRED TO CONSISTENTLY AS DEFERRED COMP PROVIDER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY THAT.
THAT'S ONE WAY OF MAKING IT CLEARER.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, PETE? SORRY. WELL INSTEAD OF REFERRING TO THEM AS THE RECORD KEEPER, WE COULD REFER TO THEM AS THE DEFERRED COMP PROVIDER. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE PRETTY CLEAR WHO THAT WAS WHETHER IT WAS RECORD KEEPER, I WASN'T EVEN 100% SURE.
OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT THOSE TERMS ARE LIKE INDUSTRY STANDARDS, BUT, YEAH, MAYBE BILL OR JOHN OR ERIC, IF YOU GUYS COULD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD HEAR THE QUESTION.
I'M ALWAYS WONDERING WHETHER THESE MICROPHONES WORK.
THE QUESTION WAS LIKE THAT TERM RECORD KEEPER, OR WOULD IT BE BETTER TO JUST SAY DEFERRED COMP PROVIDER, OR DO WE NEED TO SAY RECORD KEEPER SPECIFICALLY? I THINK RECORD KEEPER IS CERTAINLY INDUSTRY STANDARD.
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I WOULD BE AFRAID IF YOU IF YOU SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF DEFERRED COMP PROVIDER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT MIGHT GET CONFUSED WITH, THE PARK DISTRICT.RIGHT. THAT IT'S THE PARK DISTRICT IS PROVIDING THE PLAN.
WE'RE DOING EMPOWER IS DOING THE RECORD KEEPING SERVICING.
WELL, I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE IT THAT IF A NON JUST AN ORDINARY PERSON, NOT AN END PERSON IN THE INDUSTRY WERE READING IT, THEY COULD LOOK AT THIS AND BE CLEAR ABOUT WHO IT IS AND MAYBE THE DEFINITION.
I THINK THE DEFINITION, THE DEFINITION WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK AT SELECTION OF INVESTMENTS.
SO SELECTION OF INVESTMENT OPTIONS IS AMONG THE.
AND THEN WE'LL SAY THE COMMITTEE'S RESPONSIBILITIES FOR CROSSING OFF.
I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS OF BRINGING THINGS TO THE BOARD.
OR WE COULD SAY AMONG THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SELECTION OF INVESTMENT OFFICE, I DON'T KNOW.
OH YEAH. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF THE SELECTION.
WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE EVER, THIS COMMITTEE HAS EVER DONE IN THE PAST.
AND SO THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE NOW IS THAT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO MAKE CHANGES.
GREAT, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY TRAINING IN THAT REGARD.
YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S MY CONCERN OF YOU FOLKS MIGHT HAVE, BUT CERTAINLY NOT.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE QUARTERLY OR.
YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO LAND ON QUARTERLY REVIEW OF THE INVESTMENTS WE'VE SELECTED TO SAY, DO THESE MEET OUR CRITERIA THAT WE'VE LAID OUT IN OUR INVESTMENT POLICY? AND SO THAT'S HOW WE'LL KNOW IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.
BUT ARE WE AS A COMMITTEE LAYING OUT THE OPTIONS FOR THE SPECIFIC INVESTMENTS.
YES, WITH THE ADVICE FROM EMPOWER.
SO SO WE'RE NOT DOING IT IN A VACUUM.
SO THAT SO THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE DOING THIS ON OUR OWN.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'D SIGN A GROUP ANNUITY CONTRACT AND THE RECORD KEEPER WOULD TAKE CARE OF PUTTING IN WHATEVER, FUNDS THEY WANTED AND MAKING THOSE CHANGES OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, PLANS HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE THEY DO WANT THEY DO WANT MORE CONTROL, NOT JUST IN THE OF INVESTMENTS, BUT THE COST THAT THE GROUP ANNUITY CONTRACT APPROACH TENDS TO BE PRETTY COSTLY FOR PARTICIPANTS. SO I, CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THAT, THAT WE HAD A CLIENT COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO GO THE GROUP ANNUITY ROUTE AND REALLY HAVE YOU GUYS DO EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE IT. WE STILL HAVE PLANS WITH THAT TAKE THAT APPROACH, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN A PLAN DO THAT AND COME TO US FOR THAT FOR A NEW ANNUITY CONTRACT AND IN YEARS. SO THE WAY THAT THE PROCESS NORMALLY WORKS IS WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS.
RIGHT. SO, SO WE'RE YOU'RE SETTING YOUR INVESTMENT POLICY.
WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS AS OUR GUIDELINES.
WE'VE GOT THE SUGGESTED LINEUP THAT WE'LL LOOK AT HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.
WHY DON'T WE DO QUARTERLY FOR NOW, AT LEAST FOR A TIME.
SO EVERYBODY'S UNTIL EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE FUNDS IN THAT LINEUP VERSUS THE CRITERIA THAT ARE IN THE
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IPS. SO I'M GOING TO BE YOUR, YOUR DEDICATED INVESTMENT DIRECTOR.AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE FUNDS IN THE LINEUP.
I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S UNDERPERFORMING.
HERE'S WHY I'M NOT CONCERNED OR HERE'S WHY I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF DETAIL WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY QUARTER.
SO IF WE GET TO A POINT AND I'M THINKING DOWN THE LINE, SO ONE OF THE FUNDS UNDER PERFORMS CONSISTENTLY WE LOSE CONFIDENCE IN THE MANAGER WHATEVER.
AND I'M GOING TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, LOOK, THIS FUND I'M, YOU KNOW, JANICE BALANCED.
I'M MAKING IT FUN, HAS HAD REALLY CONSISTENT UNDERPERFORMANCE.
WE'VE SEEN SOME CHANGE IN THE MANAGER.
WE'VE SEEN THEIR STYLE DRIFT AWAY FROM REALLY THE TYPE OF FUND WHERE WE ADDED IT IN THE PLAN.
WE THINK IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO MAKE A CHANGE.
HERE'S WHY WE REALLY LIKE THEM.
HERE'S THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM.
I CAN'T 100% JUST SAY, LOOK, THIS IS THE ONE THAT YOU SHOULD USE.
BUT I'LL MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, MY TOP SUGGESTION WOULD BE THIS ONE.
MY SECOND SUGGESTION WOULD BE THIS ONE.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE FAIRLY DETAILED.
I CERTAINLY WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU WANT EXTRA TRAINING THINGS ALONG THAT LINE.
BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LOT OF DETAIL HERE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THE LINEUP.
ALL OF MY CLIENTS ARE, GOVERNMENT CLIENTS, PUBLIC PLAN CLIENTS WITH EMPOWER.
SO I'M VERY USED TO WORKING IN KIND OF THIS STRUCTURE.
SO, SO I'M GOING TO GEAR EVERYTHING TOWARDS TOWARDS MY AUDIENCE.
RIGHT. I'M GOING TO HELP YOU GUYS MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE.
AND I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE HERE FOR ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS.
IF YOU'RE IF YOU'VE GOT A CONCERN ABOUT THE IPS, IF YOU'VE GOT A CONCERN ABOUT A FUND, ANYTHING, ANYTHING INVOLVED WITH THE INVESTMENT SIDE OF THE PLAN, I AM HERE FOR YOUR RESOURCE FOR THEM.
THAT WAS MY LONG WINDED ANSWER.
BUT WHAT IF ONE OF THOSE REPORT CARDS CAME BACK NEGATIVE? THEN ACTION WHAT DO YOU [INAUDIBLE] MADE FROM MISSION SQUARE OR THE DISTRICT? SO I THINK IT'S A SIMILAR MINDSET.
IT'S JUST I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE INPUT DISCUSSION FROM EMPOWER NOW THAN, THAN THE PAST.
ABSOLUTELY. YOU SUMMED IT UP PERFECTLY.
I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT AGAIN, LIKE HAVING US RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT THE PROVIDERS.
I'M SORRY THAT THE INVESTMENTS, YOU KNOW, MEET THE CRITERIA.
I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ABOUT TRAINING BECAUSE, I MEAN, SURE, WE HAVE EMPOWER TELLING US LIKE, THIS IS GREAT, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR ROLE IS TO ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT CRITICAL EYE AND BE ABLE TO SEE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE WOULDN'T SEE, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST RIGHT.
EMPOWER COULD BE LIKE, HEY, THIS THIS ONE FUND MAKES A LOT OF MONEY FOR US.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S DOING GREAT.
YOU KNOW, NO PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW.
AND SO SO THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN IS LIKE, HOW DO WE YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD MISSION SQUARE, WE HAD MESIROW AS SORT OF A THIRD PARTY LOOKING AT THAT AND SAYING, HEY, WHAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU IS CORRECT OR WHAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU LOOKS GOOD.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW.
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THAT SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE A FIDUCIARY.WE DO NOT ACCEPT THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
WE ACTUALLY KNOW WE HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
BILL IS HE REALLY IS A THIRD PARTY ACTING AS A FIDUCIARY? AND EMPOWER IS IS SAYING THAT THEY WILL ACT AS A FIDUCIARY.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? IS THAT CAN I CAN I JUST ASK YOU SOMEONE FROM EMPOWER TO LIKE ADD ADD TO THAT.
IN THEIR PROPOSAL HAVE SAID THAT THEY WOULD SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY TO US.
IT IS SO, SO WE AGREED TO SERVE AS AN INVESTMENT ADVISOR, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ERISA WORLD, IT'S NORMALLY REFERRED TO AS THE 321 IF ANYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
SO WE'RE KIND OF THE CO FIDUCIARY WITH THE BOARD THE PARK DISTRICT BOARD.
BUT WE ARE SIGNING ON AS A CO FIDUCIARY.
SO THE BIG THING ON, THE FIDUCIARY SIDE AND WE ACTUALLY WILL DO THIS, WE'LL, COME OUT AND DO FIDUCIARY TRAINING FOR THE BOARD FOR THE COMMITTEE, FOR THE BOARD.
WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST FOR LOTS OF PLANS DOCUMENTATION.
AND THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT OUR LEGAL SIDE WILL SAY DOCUMENT EVERYTHING.
SO IF LIKE, LIKE BEN SAID, THAT SCORECARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THE INVESTMENTS, IF, EVERYTHING IS PASSING KIND OF THE CRITERIA, EVERYTHING'S FINE.
RIGHT. FROM A FIDUCIARY STANDPOINT, IF SOMETHING ISN'T NOTING WHY IT'S NOT DOCUMENTING WHY WE ARE OR YOU ARE OR NOT KEEPING A FUND IN THE PLAN IS THE BIG THING FROM A FIDUCIARY STANDPOINT.
IT'S NOT WHETHER THE FUND PERFORMS AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.
IT'S NOT WHETHER IT BEATS THE MAJORITY OF THE PEERS IN THE PEER GROUP.
THE BIG THING TO DOCUMENT IS YOU'RE FOLLOWING YOUR IPS.
AND AS LONG AS THE IPS IS REASONABLE AND YOU'RE FOLLOWING IT, THAT'S YOUR BIGGEST CONCERN FROM A FROM A FIDUCIARY STANDPOINT. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. YOU GUYS GOOD TO CONTINUE OR? WELL, I THINK SOME QUESTIONS, SOME.
AND CHARLES WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS KIND OF REVIEW AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE SHOULD SEE WHAT KIND OF TRAINING IS AVAILABLE OR MAYBE PARTICIPATE IN.
YEAH, IF EMPOWER IS GOING TO DO A TRAINING, A FIDUCIARY TRAINING FOR THE BOARD, WE CAN BE SITTING.
I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR WORK PLAN LATER.
AND THE AGENDA. HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO THAT.
LET'S PUT THAT ON OUR WORK PLAN TO IN OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, MAYBE FIDUCIARY TRAINING.
YEAH. AND I THINK, I THINK I'D LIKE TO GET BETTER CLARITY ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MISSION SQUARE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY AND EMPOWERS, BECAUSE I DID SEE THAT IN THE BOARD MATERIAL. AND I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE I THINK MISSION SQUARE STILL HAS TO ACT AS A FIDUCIARY.
SO I DIDN'T QUITE SEE THE DIFFERENCE AS HOW AND AGAIN, IT STILL SEEMS ODD TO HAVE A FIDUCIARY THAT I MEAN, I MEAN, I GUESS THE QUESTION LIKE FOR EMPOWERS LIKE, SO WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOUR CEO SAYS, WE GOT TO GET OUR PERFORMANCE? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN BE A FIDUCIARY AND HAVE BOTH OF THOSE VALUES, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S A PROFITABLE COMPANY AND ALSO BE A FIDUCIARY THAT MAKES THE BEST DECISIONS FOR, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? FOR THE CLIENT.
YEAH. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE THEY ARE GOING TO BE OUR CO FIDUCIARY.
SO THEY'RE LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE DOCUMENTED IN MISSION SQUARE.
ABSOLUTELY. SAID THEY WOULD NOT BE CO FIDUCIARY.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO PAY WHATEVER IT WAS LIKE ONE ADDITIONAL BASIS POINT OR ONE AND A HALF.
SO I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE, I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, OH, THEY WOULDN'T AND EMPOWER WILL, BUT I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL I JUST STILL HAVE THOSE CONCERNS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M.
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WELL, LET'S PROCEED.I THINK YOU GUYS ARE RAISING GREAT QUESTIONS ABOUT, LIKE, US GETTING TRAINING, AND I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRESS AT CLARIFYING IN THIS IPS WHO DOES WHAT, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH HERE.
RIGHT? AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THIS ALL DOCUMENTED, TAKE A STEP BACK.
WE'LL LOOK AT IT. WE'LL HAVE LIKE A FINAL IPS FOR US TO LOOK AT.
AND WE CAN SAY LIKE, DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT EVERYTHING IS OUTLINED AND THAT WE KNOW WHAT OUR COMMITTEE RESPONSIBILITY IS AND WHAT OUR YOU KNOW, WHAT ROLE WE'RE PERFORMING AND ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
SO WE ARE BACK TO SECTION FIVE HERE.
SO SELECTION OF INVESTMENT OPTIONS.
OH NO. WE HAD A DIFFERENT WORD.
THE INSTEAD OF SELECTION WE WERE GOING TO SAY RECOMMENDATION OF INVESTMENT OPTIONS.
IS AMONG THE COMMITTEE'S RESPONSIBILITY.
WELL, I MEAN, OKAY, SO I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION IS LIKE, HOW IS THIS WORKING? SO SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE I THINK WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WE WILL BRING IT TO THE BOARD TO APPROVE.
SO WE JUST NEED TO OUTLINE THIS HERE.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION OF INVESTMENT THIS IS LET ME FINISH THE SENTENCE.
AND THEN YOU CAN TELL ME IF YOU THINK IT WORKS.
AND THEN SOMETHING LIKE TO BE RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD OR MAYBE SELECTION OR APPROVAL OF IT IS THE AND TO BE APPROVED BY THE OR THE APPROVAL OF SO IN OTHER WORDS THE SELECTION THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE INVESTMENT OPTIONS AND THEN TO BE APPROVED BY THE APPROVAL.
THE APPROVAL IS IS AMONG THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS RESPONSIBILITIES OR SOMETHING.
TO BE APPROVED BY THE PARK DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING.
SO WE HAVE TEN INVESTMENT OPTIONS OR WE HAVE 15 AND WE GOT TO PICK TEN, LET'S SAY.
SO WE PICK TEN AND THEN WE RECOMMEND THOSE TO THE BOARD.
AND THEN WE CAN'T CHANGE ANY OF THAT.
NO NO WE CAN'T. WE'RE GOING BEFORE THE BOARD AGAIN.
SO YEAH. SO LET'S SAY WE'RE DOING OUR QUARTERLY REVIEW.
ONE OF THE INVESTMENTS IS NOT UP TO STANDARD.
WE WOULD THEN NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS TO BRING THAT TO THE BOARD.
AND IF IT WERE REALLY SERIOUS PROBLEM, PRESUMABLY WE COULD DO THAT YEAH. YEAH.
EVERYTHING'S LIKE A MONTH OUT, SO.
SO THE PARK DISTRICT WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT OR COMMITTEE DO WE CROSS OUT OR COMMITTEE THE PARK DISTRICT INTENDS FOR THE PLAN. SURE.
I THINK PARK DISTRICT IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT'S LIKE.
HOW ABOUT THE INTENT FOR THE PLAN IS SURE.
THE INVESTMENT HOLDINGS SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STYLE AND THEN THREE PERFORMANCE RELATIVE TO BENCHMARK AND PEER GROUP PERFORMANCE SHOULD BE EVALUATED AGAINST MEDIAN RETURN FOR THE APPROPRIATE STYLE SPECIFIC BENCHMARK AND PEER GROUP OVER A SPECIFIED TIME PERIOD.
SO CAN I JUST GO BACK TO HERE? YEAH. THIS PART, DO WE NEED TO FIX THAT ONE? OH, GOSH. SORRY. YEAH. IS IT THE COMMITTEE? YES, THE COMMITTEE, BECAUSE IT JUST SAYS EVALUATE AND THEN STYLE.
SELF-CONSISTENT QUITE UNDERSTAND LIKE SO IT SAYS THE INVESTMENT OPTION SHOULD BE CORRELATED TO ONE OF THE ASSET CLASSES USING THE PLAN IT SHOULD DEMONSTRATE.
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SO IF WE ADD A FUND AS A LARGE GROWTH FUND, THAT'S THE EXPOSURE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE TO PARTICIPANTS. WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR THAT FUND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS CONTINUING TO GIVE TO PROVIDE THAT EXPOSURE.SO IS THAT LIKE MID CAP GROWTH AND INDEX.
LET'S SEE WHAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE THERE IS.
SO I THINK THAT'S YEAH MAYBE THAT MID GROWTH SMALL VALUE THAT THE DIFFERENT ASSET CATEGORIES.
YEAH OKAY. SO IT'S DIFFERENT ASSET CATEGORIES.
YEAH. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PUT IN THE GLOSSARY.
OKAY, SO WE'RE ON TO PAGE FIVE AT THE TOP.
MULTI-ASSET CLASS INVESTMENTS.
SO FOR TARGET DATE, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT TARGET DATE FUNDS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, HOW THE INVESTMENTS WILL BE EVALUATED.
GLIDE PATH IS ANOTHER ONE THAT I MIGHT NEED A DEFINITION FOR.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE A DEFINITION OF GLIDE PATH.
GLIDE PATH SO IF YOU THINK OF THE TARGET DATE FUND FAMILY AS A WHOLE, SO YOU'RE 20, SAY THE 2015 THROUGH YOUR 2060 FUND, THE AMOUNT OF EQUITY, THE AMOUNT OF STOCKS, PERCENTAGE THAT ARE IN EACH ONE OF THOSE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT ON THE FAR LEFT, YOUR 25 YEAR OLDS OR IN THE 2060 FUND THERE.
AND I CAN SEE MY HAND THERE YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 90% IN STOCKS.
THAT PATH OF GOING FROM 90 TO 30 IS WHAT'S CALLED THE GLIDE PATH.
AND YES, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DEFINE THAT FOR THE GLOSSARY.
ALL RIGHT. SO NUMBER FIVE IS PERFORMANCE RELATIVE TO ASSUMED RISK.
AND SO RISK AND RISK ADJUSTED RETURN MEASURES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND TO BE WITHIN A REASONABLE RANGE RELATIVE TO THE FUNDS STYLE SPECIFIC BENCHMARK AND PEER GROUP. FEES SHOULD BE COMPETITIVE COMPARED TO SIMILAR INVESTMENTS REPUTATION THAT FUND AND INVESTMENT PROVIDERS REPUTATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
INVESTMENT OPTION PROVIDERS SHOULD BE OPERATING IN GOOD STANDING WITH ITS REGULATORS.
THE LONGEVITY OF THE INVESTMENT PROVIDER SHOULD BE REVIEWED TO ENSURE THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO THE PORTFOLIO FOR A PERIOD OF TIME DEEMED TO BE ACCEPTABLE BY THE PARK DISTRICT OKAY, OR COMMITTEE, LET'S SAY COMMITTEE.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN YOU SAID WE HAD TWO.
WE ALREADY HAVE TWO OTHER INVESTMENT POLICIES.
SO WE HAVE AN INVESTMENT POLICY FOR OUR INVESTMENTS.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE'VE LAYERED ON ESG INVESTING AS A CRITERIA THAT WE'RE USING TO REVIEW.
SO WE DO QUARTERLY REVIEW OF THE PARK DISTRICT'S INVESTMENTS.
AND WE LOOK AT THE ESG SCORE OF THE PARK DISTRICT'S INVESTMENTS.
WHAT DOES ESG STAND FOR? ENVIRONMENT, SOCIAL AND GOVERNANCE? SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HOW THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE MANAGED.
ARE THEY ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, SOCIALLY FRIENDLY? AND THEN GOVERNANCE LIKE IS THE GOVERNING BOARD OF THE INVESTMENT LIKE ARE THEY DOING ARE THEY MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICES? RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT WAS MY QUESTION WAS THAT I KNOW THIS IS PARTICIPANT MONEY, RIGHT.
YEAH. BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE DISTRICT IS THEN IS THAT SOMETHING THE DISTRICT WOULD PUT FORTH FOR THESE FUNDS? I DON'T KNOW, WE COULD TALK ABOUT HAVING A GREEN LIKE I REMEMBER SOMEONE FROM MISSION SQUARE SAYING THAT THAT PARTICIPANTS HAD WANTED TO HAVE GREEN FUNDS IN THE LINEUP.
YEAH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER PUTTING INTO THE LINEUP.
YEAH. SPENDING IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THEY'VE SAID THAT. YEAH. YEAH OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S PART OF THE CRITERIA OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING IN OUR.
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COULD EXPLICITLY SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE WILL PROVIDE THAT AS AN INVESTMENT OPTION OR NOT.AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR IPS, BUT THAT WE DECIDE WE WANT TO ADD.
BUT I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOMEDAY WE'LL ALL MOVE ON.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, I FEEL LIKE PROVIDER SELECTION DESCRIPTION IN HERE? THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST QUESTIONS.
I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY THAT SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN THE IPS.
AND IF YOU WANT TO I WOULD PUT IT IN THIS SECTION.
YEAH. IN THIS UNDER THE INVESTMENT AND INVESTMENT PROVIDER SELECTION.
WITH THE ESG FUNDS, IT A LOT OF TIMES IT BECOMES, I WON'T SAY DIFFICULT.
YOU'RE ADDING AN EXTRA LAYER OF AN EXTRA CRITERIA TO IT, RIGHT.
INSTEAD OF JUST EVALUATING FUNDS ON PERFORMANCE RISK, YOU KNOW, REGULAR INVESTMENT TYPE STUFF, YOU'RE KIND OF ADDING A DIFFERENT LAYER TO IT. SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE IPS FAIRLY BROAD.
SO YOU'RE NOT HANDCUFFING YOURSELF INTO ANYTHING.
AND THIS WOULD BE ANTICIPATED WE WOULD ANTICIPATE HOLDING OR PROVIDING ESG OPTIONS FOR PARTICIPANTS.
I THINK THAT'S FINE TO LIST HERE.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HIGHLY VALUED BY THE PARTICIPANTS.
GREAT. YEAH. YEAH. BEING THAT WE'RE A PARK DISTRICT.
BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF THAT'S THE VALUES OF THE DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING THE PLAN AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD INCORPORATE, BUT IN A WAY THAT'S NOT LIMITING.
SO JUST SOMETHING THAT SORT OF MAYBE IT'S PART OF OUR LINEUP.
I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO THE END, GUYS.
NUMBER SIX, INVESTMENT OPTION MONITORING.
YOU GUYS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT TIMELINE? OKAY. OKAY.
YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE JUST DOING THE INVESTMENT REVIEW QUARTERLY.
YES. BUT THE POLICY OKAY. IN ADDITION TO REGULAR MONITORING OF THE PERFORMANCE OF INVESTMENT OPTION WILL REVIEW THE STRUCTURE OF THE INVESTMENT OPTIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE APPROPRIATE FOR PLAN PARTICIPANTS.
THIS IS LIKE THE NUMBER OF INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE OFFERING.
THE CATEGORIES THAT WE'RE OFFERING VARIOUS EQUITY AND FIXED.
AND SO WE WANT TO BENCHMARK OUR INVESTMENT OPTIONS VERSUS THE WHOLE UNIVERSE OF WHAT'S OUT THERE.
AND I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON HERE.
SO IS THIS SOMEWHERE MAYBE WE WOULD PUT THE RFP TYPE OF LANGUAGE.
THIS IS AGAIN JUST LIKE OKAY INVESTMENTS, NOT OKAY.
NOT THE FIRM THAT'S PROVIDING THE RECORD KEEPING AND TRUSTEE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AND THEN IT SAYS IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR REVIEW OF THE STRUCTURE.
SO HOW OFTEN IS THAT HAPPENING? LIKE BEFORE IT SAID, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS.
SO, LIKE, YEAH, LET'S SPECIFY THAT MAYBE YEAH THAT'D BE GOOD. AND I THINK YEAH I THINK MEADOW'S SAYING LIKE SO IT'S SAYING WE'LL REVIEW THE STRUCTURE OF THE INVESTMENT OPTIONS.
CAN WE SAY LIKE NO LESS OFTEN THAN EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING.
YEAH. AT LEAST EVERY FIVE YEARS.
SURE. FIVE YEARS IS A LITTLE HIGH FOR THAT.
SO THAT'LL BE AT LEAST EVERY THREE YEARS OKAY.
PARK DISTRICT ACKNOWLEDGES I'M ON THE LAST PARAGRAPH NOW FLUCTUATING RATES OF RETURN.
I ALMOST THINK WE'RE JUST SAYING LIKE, KEEP THE LONG TERM PERSPECTIVE.
I ALMOST THINK TWO YEARS WOULD JUST BE EASIER BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE IT ON THE EVEN OR THE ODD YEARS AND JUST BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TIE IT WITH ELECTIONS OR, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING. I FEEL LIKE EVERY THIRD YEAR IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, WHAT WAS THAT LAST YEAR? YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE I JUST THINKING TWO YEARS MIGHT BE EASIER TO KEEP TRACK OF.
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WE CAN ALWAYS IN FIVE YEARS WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT.YEAH. WE LOOK AT IT AND WE'RE LIKE, NO CHANGES.
OR WE'RE LIKE, WOW, THAT'S A LOT.
YEAH. ALL RIGHT, ONTO PAGE SIX.
SO PARK DISTRICT OR COMMITTEE.
SO IT'S GOING TO SAY THE COMMITTEE WILL CROSS OFF PARK DISTRICT THERE.
SO IN THE WHERE IT SAYS ON A SEMIANNUAL BASIS WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT TO BE QUARTERLY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, THE INVESTMENT OPTION WILL BE FORMALLY REVIEWED AND ARE EXPECTED TO MEET OR EXCEED THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.
SECOND BULLET INVESTMENT EXPENSE IS LESS THAN THE AVERAGE FOR THE RESPECTIVE PEER GROUP.
RISK MEASURES WITHIN AN ACCEPTABLE RANGE OF THE INVESTMENT OPTIONS.
PEER GROUP FOURTH BULLET MORNINGSTAR RATING OF FIVE STARS OR BETTER.
AND THEN LASTLY, CONSISTENT INVESTMENT STYLE AND STRATEGY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACCEPTABLE RANGE IS.
I FEEL LIKE, YEAH, BILL, IS THERE A WAY TO QUANTIFY ACCEPTABLE RANGE IN THE INVESTMENT OPTIONS PEER.
THIS IS FOR THE THIRD BULLET, THE RISK MEASURE WITHIN AN ACCEPTABLE RANGE.
IS THERE A WAY TO QUANTIFY THAT.
AND THIS IS THE KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT BROAD SO THAT SO YOU'RE NOT HANDCUFFING YOURSELF.
IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT I WOULD SAY BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE MEASURES FOR A LARGE CAP GROWTH FUND THEY CAN BE PRETTY DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SMALL CAP VALUE FUND.
COULD YOU SAY COMPARABLE TO THE INVESTMENT OPTIONS PEER GROUP.
BECAUSE YOU ARE SORT OF LIKE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW? I DO THINK IT'S YOU'RE NOT SAYING APPLES TO ORANGES LIKE IT'S WRITTEN LIKE WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT APPLES TO APPLES.
SO YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE PEER GROUP.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE THE FUND ONLY VERSUS [INAUDIBLE] FUNDS ACCEPTABLE WITH PRUDENT.
HOW ABOUT LIKE RISK MEASURES COMPARABLE TO THE INVESTMENT OPTIONS PEER GROUP WITHIN A COMPARABLE OR MAYBE COMPARABLE TO VAGUE I KNOW WITH THE I JUST DON'T I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IF THIS IS MY RESPONSIBILITY, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH. AND THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S.
SO WE WILL NOT BE DOING THIS ON OUR OWN.
LIKE, WE'LL HAVE THE ADVICE FROM EMPOWER SAYING LIKE THIS IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE RANGE.
RIGHT. AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK OF THE PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE READING THIS, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE SAYING LIKE THAT WAS UNACCEPTABLE.
AND I'M LIKE, IT WAS I MEAN, LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING? YOU KNOW. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE USING COMPARABLE IN OTHER ARE WE IN OTHER PLACES IN THIS IPS THAT WE'RE COMPARABLE.
SO I THINK DOES THAT DOES THAT WORK, BILL, IF WE SAY RISK MEASURES COMPARABLE I THINK THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO PUT YOU, YOU KNOW, NEAR THE MEDIAN OF THE GROUP I THINK THAT'S FINE.
COOL. WHY DON'T WE SAY NEAR THE MEDIAN THEN.
THERE'S NO RISK MEASURE METER.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THERE IS BILL, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF A RISK MEASURE METER IN.
AND IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT TO HOW YOU WANT TO DEFINE RISK.
THERE'S LOTS OF THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO DEFINE IT.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE FEW THINGS I MENTIONED ARE KIND OF STANDARD TYPES OF TYPES OF OF CRITERIA.
YEAH. SO IT'S WE WANT TO KEEP IT BROAD, BUT I THINK COMPARABLE I THINK PUTS IT NEAR THE MEDIAN.
SEE, THAT MAKES ME EVEN MORE CONCERNED BECAUSE I'M LIKE, IF THERE ISN'T A METER, THEN HOW DO I KNOW? I MEAN, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY THERE'S DATA, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, STANDARD DEVIATION OR MEDIAN OR THERE'S SOME KIND OF.
THERE IS NO SO THERE'S THE SHARPE RATIO.
AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE YOU MENTIONED STANDARD DEVIATION SHARPE RATIO.
SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE WILL KIND OF LOOK AT.
BUT WE DON'T NORMALLY I DON'T NORMALLY SEE THAT REALLY SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT IN THE IPS.
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YEAH OKAY.THERE ARE NUMBERS THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT OKAY OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO THEN THE LAST PARAGRAPH IS SAYING.
SO IF OVERALL THE INVESTMENT OPTION IS ACCEPTABLE, NO FURTHER ACTION REQUIRED OKAY.
AND IT'S GOING TO SAY IS REQUIRED BY THE COMMITTEE.
IF A FUND CONSISTENTLY FAILS TO MEET, THEN COMMITTEE, MAY PUT THE INVESTMENT ON A WATCH LIST.
IF AN INVESTMENT IS ON A WATCH LIST AND CONTINUES TO, THE COMMITTEE MAY RECOMMEND.
COMMITTEE MAY RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO REPLACE THE INVESTMENT.
ALL RIGHT. SECTION SEVEN INVESTMENT OPTION TERMINATION.
SO THIS IS NOW TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DECIDE TO REMOVE A FUND.
OR WE RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD TO REMOVE A FUND.
SO INVESTMENT OPTION MAY BE REMOVED WHEN THE.
SO THEN IT WILL SAY PARK DISTRICT HAS LOST CONFIDENCE IN THE INVESTMENTS ABILITY OR POTENTIAL TO ACHIEVE PERFORMANCE, COMPLY WITH INVESTMENT OBJECTIVES, MAINTAIN STABLE INVESTMENT STYLE AND MAINTAIN FEES.
BASICALLY ALL OF THESE BULLETS ABOVE LIKE WOULD.
OKAY. SO ANY RECOMMENDATION WILL BE TREATED ON INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
NOT SOLELY ON QUANTITATIVE DATA.
[LAUGHTER] WHAT'S THAT. NO, I'M SAYING OH GREAT.
OKAY. LIKE MORE THINGS TO CONSIDER.
SO THE JUDGMENT THAT TURNS ON THE LET'S SEE, WE WANT TO SAY IT'S A JUDGMENT TURNS ON THE.
PARK DISTRICTS OR. I MEAN, I GUESS WE COULD JUST LEAVE IT.
AND WE SAY PARK DISTRICT AND COMMITTEES, I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT BAD OR, AND OR NEED TO BE SPECIFIC.
WE CAN PUT AND/OR AND OR COMMITTEES CONFIDENCE IN THE INVESTMENT MANAGERS ABILITY TO PERFORM PARK DISTRICT OR COMMITTEE MAY CONSIDER OTHER FACTORS, SUCH AS TURNOVER OF KEY INVESTMENT PERSONNEL OR MATERIAL CHANGES TO THE INVESTMENT MANAGERS INVESTMENT GUIDELINES.
YEAH, MAYBE WE SAY LIKE THE DECISION INSTEAD OF SAYING.
DO YOU GUYS FOLLOW? THE DECISION MAY ALSO CONSIDER OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS TURNOVER OF KEY INVESTMENT PERSONNEL.
FOR THE PARK DISTRICT OR THE RECOMMENDATION MAY ALSO CONSIDER.
RIGHT. BECAUSE UP HERE IT SAYS RECOMMENDATION.
SO I'M THINKING IT'S OKAY TO LEAVE IT OR HERE, BUT WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT NEXT.
THE PARK DISTRICT WAS BANKING WITH WELLS FARGO, AND THERE WAS NOTHING IN OUR POLICY THAT SAID LIKE THAT WE SHOULD STOP BANKING WITH WELLS FARGO. BUT THERE WAS LIKE THIS WHOLE ISSUE WHERE THEY WERE OPENING UP FAKE ACCOUNTS, AND THE PARK DISTRICT WAS LIKE, WE DO NOT WANT TO KEEP THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH WELLS FARGO ANYMORE. AND A LOT OF GOVERNMENT ENTITIES DID THAT.
THEY DECIDED TO CHANGE BANKING PROVIDERS.
SURE. LIKE IF SOMETHING IS IN THE NEWS THAT'S LIKE, YEAH, I MEAN.
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS CAN DO IT AT ANY TIME.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS INTENDING TO SAY.
THEY CAN ACT INDEPENDENTLY. WE CAN ACT WITHOUT EVEN IF THEY'RE PERFORMING GREAT.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT'S.
YEAH, EXACTLY. INDICATION OF ANY KIND THAT IT WAS NOT A GOOD IDEA SHOULD GET RID OF IT.
YEAH OKAY. SO WE'LL KEEP IT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.
THAT'S THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. RIGHT.
SO PARK DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
AND SO THOSE OPTIONS MAY INCLUDE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT WITH AN ALTERNATIVE INVESTMENT.
OR WE RETURN IT WITHOUT REPLACEMENT AND WE MAP ASSETS TO A DIFFERENT INVESTMENT OPTION OKAY.
SHOULD AN INVESTMENT BE REMOVED THE ASSIGNMENTS CURRENTLY HELD.
SO THIS THEN GETS INTO LIKE WHAT HAPPENS FOR THE PERSON WHO'S GOT THAT INVESTMENT.
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SO IT'LL BE AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER INVESTMENT OPTION DESIGNATED BY THE PARK DISTRICT BY THE RECORD KEEPER.THE PARK DISTRICT'S STRIKING COMMITTEE, SO THE PARK DISTRICT'S DECISION TO REPLACE AN INVESTMENT OPTION WILL FOLLOW THE INVESTMENT POLICY STATEMENTS CRITERIA BASED ON THE FACTORS CONSIDERED BY THE PARK DISTRICT COMMITTEE.
SO IT'S BASICALLY SAYING LIKE, MAYBE YOU'LL DECIDE.
SURE, I THINK, I THINK LEAVING IT IS FINE.
SO RETAIN THE CURRENT INVESTMENT OPTION OR EVEN ADD A COMPETING OPTION.
OKAY. YOU GUYS STILL FOLLOWING? YEP. YEAH OKAY. OKAY.
THIS IS JUST DOCUMENTING THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SELF-DIRECTED BROKERAGE ACCOUNT.
IS IT NOT APPLICABLE TO THE RHS PLAN? THE SELF-DIRECTED, I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S AN OPTION WITHIN THE RHS PLAN.
OKAY. WE DON'T TYPICALLY SEE THAT.
OKAY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT PA MIGHT WANT? I HAVE TO GO BACK TO GET BACK TO THEM AND FIGURE OUT.
I THINK WE MADE IT THROUGH, GUYS.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS TO LOOK AT THE INVESTMENT LINEUP THE PROPOSED LINEUP.
BUT WE ARE RUNNING SHORT ON TIME.
I THINK WE CAN MOVE ITEM F TO NEXT TIME.
BUDGET PLANNING AND ADMINISTRATIVE ALLOWANCE ACCOUNT.
THE DEFERRED COMPENSATION SURVEY.
I'M NOT SURE. WHO WAS THAT? OH, WAS THAT ON OUR WORK PLAN? MAYBE. NO.
WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? WE DID A DRAFT OF THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.
AND THEN DID WE DECIDE WE WERE GOING TO DO IT IN TANGENT WITH MOVING TO EMPOWER, OR DID WE DECIDE WE WERE GOING TO POSTPONE? I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS DOING IT BEFORE THE TRANSITION, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT PARTICIPANTS WANTED OR WERE LOOKING FOR IN THE PLAN, AND THEN A SECOND ONE ONCE THE TRANSITION HAPPENED.
OKAY, SO CONNIE'S GIVEN US THE RED LINE OF WHAT WAS I THINK THAT'S IN HERE OF WHAT WE HAD MAPPED OUT TO BE IN THE SURVEY. RIGHT? YEAH. GOT IT.
WE STILL WANT IT. SAYS ADDITION.
ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION TO INCLUDE SURVEY.
ALL RIGHT. SORRY. I KNOW WE'RE GETTING.
I WASN'T HERE LAST TIME, SO WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING? WE NEED TO SCHEDULE. THE NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS TO SCHEDULE OUR WORK.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE SOMETIME IN JANUARY 26TH, I THINK.
SO MAYBE WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE JANUARY AGENDA.
YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRANSITIONING UNTIL MARCH.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE.
I THINK THE SCHEDULE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN SO DO WE NEED TO DO THIS OR DO WE WANT TO PUT THIS THE.
SORRY, I WASN'T SURE. PLAN LINEUP.
YEAH, I THINK WE DO, BECAUSE I THINK WE WANT TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO BRING TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IN JANUARY, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET AGAIN UNTIL AFTER JANUARY.
NO, WE'RE GOING AFTER THE JANUARY FINANCE COMMITTEE.
GOT IT. WHEN DOES JANUARY FINANCE COMMITTEE? IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO A RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW, THOUGH.
SO I THINK AND THEN SHE GAVE US THE LIST OF AVAILABLE DATES.
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I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS ALL SORT OF NEW INFORMATION FOR US RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW. SO IF WE MET JANUARY 4TH, THAT WOULD GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO I KNOW I'M ON VACATION, BUT I DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE HERE, BUT.JANUARY 11TH. BUT, YEAH, I THINK ACCOMMODATION.
OKAY. YEAH. AND THAT'S THURSDAY.
SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT THURSDAYS OR NOT.
BUT EITHER WAY YEAH WE COULD DO THAT THAT WEEK OF JANUARY.
OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS COULD HEAR THAT EMPOWER FOLKS.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IS HAVING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUND LINEUP MOVE TO OUR JANUARY MEETING, WHICH WE ARE TENTATIVELY SAYING WOULD BE JANUARY 11TH.
SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE A DECISION IN TIME TO BRING THIS TO THE JANUARY FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.
YEP. GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE? WHEN IS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE? I THINK.
THAT SHOULD BE. I THINK THAT'LL BE.
SO SO THAT THEN CONCLUDES THIS DISCUSSION.
I TOOK A LOT OF NOTES ON MY COPY, SO I'LL GET THAT TO YOU, BILL.
EXCELLENT. YEAH. I HOPE YOU TOOK NOTES, BECAUSE I'M SURE I DIDN'T GET ANY.
THANK YOU. GUYS, DO WE HAVE A TIME OF DAY FOR OUR MEETINGS? I KNOW IT CHANGED A LITTLE BIT THIS TIME.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN SCHEDULING IS WHAT DAY AND TIME.
I HAVE ANOTHER. I'M ON A COMMITTEE AT KAISER THAT MEETS THE SECOND THURSDAY FROM TEN.
WELL HOLD IT. LET'S LIKE, MAKE SURE WE'RE DONE WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM AND THEN WE'LL.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK ARE WE DONE WITH THIS? ARE WE MOVING ON TO. OKAY.
I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER. DEB, JUST YELL FOR WHATEVER YOU NEED.
OKAY, SO IF WE JUST WORKED ON THE SCHEDULE, I THINK THE LAST THREE ITEMS WE CAN MOVE.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE WORK PLAN.
I JUST GRABBED MY WORK PLAN FOR 2023.
JUST UPDATE THE DATES, RIGHT? I THINK NAGDCA CONFERENCE IS A LITTLE EARLIER THIS YEAR.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, WAS THERE ANYTHING ON HERE THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT THE QUARTERLY IPS INVESTMENT REVIEWS EVERY, LOOKS LIKE WE WERE DOING A MARCH, MAY AND THEN SEPTEMBER, NOVEMBER.
AND THEN I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE.
OH, THE ONE THING I DID NEED TO ADD WAS ELECTIONS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ELECTIONS ON HERE, SO I JUST NEED TO ADD ELECTIONS IN JANUARY.
AND ARE WE GOOD WITH EVERY OTHER MONTH? AT THIS POINT, THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING? AS MUCH AS IT'S HARD TO COME IN AND REMEMBER WHAT WE DID TWO MONTHS AGO, BUT.
BETTER THAN QUARTERLY. BUT IT'S BETTER THAN QUARTERLY.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT WAS GETTING A LITTLE DIFFICULT.
SO OKAY, WELL, WHY DON'T I MAKE A DRAFT OF THIS? AWESOME. AND BUT BUT LET'S DECIDE ON OUR JANUARY MEETING.
LET'S FIGURE OUT, LIKE, WHAT DAYS AND TIMES WORKS FOR PEOPLE.
OKAY. I'M NOT A FAN OF THURSDAYS, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THURSDAYS.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING.
I THINK THAT WAS DEBRA AUKER'S SCHEDULE.
THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY ON THE SECOND THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH IS ALWAYS A BAD DAY FOR ME.
I HAVE A CONFLICT THAT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO RECONCILE.
IS THERE A BETTER DAY FOR FOLKS? I'M. I MEAN, I'M PRETTY MUCH MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
PRETTY MUCH ANY OTHER DAY AND EVEN A DIFFERENT THURSDAY.
JUST THE SECOND THURSDAY IS A PROBLEM FOR ME.
BUT I GAVE YOU WAS ALL THURSDAYS.
LET ME. SO DO YOU WANT TO PUT JANUARY IS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.
WELL, NO, I'M SAYING WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DAY WORKS FIRST.
I'M PRETTY MUCH MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
I GENERALLY WORK WEDNESDAY TO SATURDAY.
OKAY, SO WOULD WEDNESDAY WORK THEN.
YEAH, I THINK THE TRICK IS GETTING A LOT OF TIMES IS GETTING THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE MEETINGS ON WEDNESDAYS BECAUSE THAT'S THE DAY EVERYBODY'S
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YEAH. SO YEAH, IF I LIKE, LOOK AT THIS THING, IT'S LIKE ALREADY COLORED UP ON THE WEDNESDAYS FOR THE MOST PART.I SEE THURSDAYS DO LOOK NICE AND CLEAR, BUT ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT FIRST WEEK IN OR THE SECOND WEEK IN JANUARY? PROBABLY AT LEAST THE SECOND WEEK OR BEYOND? YES. YEAH. SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY.
EVERY DAY THE BOARD ROOM IS AVAILABLE.
GREAT. THE 10TH IT SAYS LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME ON THIS THING IT DOES ON THE BOARD MASTER CALENDAR.
OR COULD WE DO THAT 11TH SO THE FIRST ONE AND THEN WORK AROUND PETE'S SCHEDULE.
AND THEN WE CAN WORK AFTER THAT TO CHANGE IT FROM THERE? YEAH. WE COULD I'M JUST THINKING WHEN IT SAYS LIKE LEGISLATIVE, IS IT ALL DAY OR, YOU KNOW.
YEAH. I MEAN, IS IT LATER IN THE DAY? IS IT IN THE MORNING? I THINK LEDGE COMMITTEE IS IN THE AFTERNOON.
IS THAT RIGHT? DOES ANYONE KNOW? I THINK THEY'RE CHANGING THEM ALL TO START AT 10:30.
OKAY. THEY I'M GLAD YOU GUYS LOOKED AT THAT. YEAH.
THEY HAVEN'T BOOKED IT YET. SO? SO SO WHAT ABOUT WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON THEN? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING IF LIKE, WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON SURE WOULD WORK.
OKAY. WELL, WE COULD ALWAYS DO A THURSDAY OR ON THE 11TH.
SO DOES IT WORK FOR ME? OH, SORRY.
OR IS IT JUST THE WHOLE DAY IS BAD? ANY TIME AFTER TWO WOULD BE FINE.
YEAH. WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? AND THEN.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD POINT THOUGH.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THEM A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN THE MONTH IF WE DO.
AND THEN TO LINE THEM UP WITH BOARD FINANCE, I KNOW BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE.
SO SO YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.
OKAY. SO WHY DON'T I JUST DO THAT? I'LL JUST GO THROUGH AND PUT THE THURSDAYS ON HERE FOR NOW, AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS JUST REVISIT IT, OKAY.
SORRY. WAIT. SO SECOND THURSDAYS IN THE AFTERNOON IS OKAY.
IT'S LIKE IT IS KIND OF MIDDLE OF THE DAY FOR A RETIREE.
WELL, I MAY HAVE TO DO SOME BY ZOOM, BUT I COULD IF WE STARTED AFTER TWO, I COULD DO IT BY ZOOM.
YOU HAVE TO BE. I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE IN PERSON NOW.
AND THE 21ST SO WOULD THAT WORK? WHAT DID YOU SAY? FIRST THURSDAYS? WE COULD. YEAH.
YEAH, I THINK WE COULD. THAT WOULDN'T TAKE AWAY.
IT'S JUST THAT JANUARY 4TH, I'M.
SO IF WE CAN DO THE SECOND ONE, IS THAT OKAY ON THE 11TH.
SO SORRY, IT'S THE FIRST THURSDAY.
NOW WE'RE DOING FIRST THURSDAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? FIRST THURSDAY AFTER STARTING MARCH.
I CAN GET THAT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
I'M JUST THINKING LATER IN THE DAY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TAKE OFF TO DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I COULD SEE THAT BEING A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.
YEAH, I THINK I'M. I'M UP FOR WHATEVER.
OKAY. I'LL JUST PICK SOMETHING EARLIER.
LOOKS LIKE IN JULY THE 1ST IS NOT THE FIRST.
YEAH. THE FIRST IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. THURSDAY IS NOT AVAILABLE.
THAT'S FINE. WE'LL JUST ADJUST IT.
I WAS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COLORED.
THE 4TH OF JULY. AND THEN I'LL BE WORKING.
SO SHE WAS JUST SAYING THAT THE FIRST THURSDAY MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT'S 4TH OF JULY, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WE CAN JUST. WE'LL JUST MODIFY IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DO IT THE SECOND THURSDAY ON THAT THAT TIME.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT GOOD FOR YOU, THEN WE'LL WORK AROUND YOUR SCHEDULE FOR THE YEAH, WE'LL PICK IT OUT. IT'S REALLY THE SECOND, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO JANUARY 11TH FROM 2 TO 4.
AND THEN IN MARCH, WE'LL DO THE FIRST THURSDAY, 10 TO 12 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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GREAT. OKAY.ALL RIGHT. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA? PARTICIPATION DATA.
I SEE. I DO HAVE A GRIEVANCE HEARING AT 11:45, SO I DO HAVE TO GET GOING, BUT DO WE WANT TO MOVE THOSE TO NEXT TIME? I THINK SO WE CAN I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE NEW INFORMATION ANYWAY, RIGHT? SO WE CAN, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE IT.
OKAY. AND THEN WE PUSH THE OTHER TWO.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANT TO ADD? NO. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.